[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-14-2014 02:42 PM)spalex Wrote:  

I'm going on holiday for the next 8 days so I won't be on the forum watching this thread explode. Which is a shame because I can go on all day about how Islam is probably the worst thing on this planet.

But if you PM me I can send you another 180 pictures like this from the Quran. Then another 300 from the Sunnah that will make you say "these cunts are fucked!" And will likely make you discriminate against anyone who believes in Islam.

Going to chime in here as I ended my main argument earlier, but do you honestly think everyone follows the religion to the word these days? Take a look at the modern culture and you will see swift contradictions much like Christianity. Lets be realistic, do you stone adulterers or do die hard Protestants/Catholic make their wives slaves? Come on man be a bit reasonable here.

[Samseau]

(04-14-2014 03:24 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-14-2014 02:42 PM)spalex Wrote:  

I'm going on holiday for the next 8 days so I won't be on the forum watching this thread explode. Which is a shame because I can go on all day about how Islam is probably the worst thing on this planet.

But if you PM me I can send you another 180 pictures like this from the Quran. Then another 300 from the Sunnah that will make you say "these cunts are fucked!" And will likely make you discriminate against anyone who believes in Islam.

Going to chime in here as I ended my main argument earlier, but do you honestly think everyone follows the religion to the word these days? Take a look at the modern culture and you will see swift contradictions much like Christianity. Lets be realistic, do you stone adulterers or do die hard Protestants/Catholic make their wives slaves? Come on man be a bit reasonable here.

The problem is when you do get some diehard followers, people die. Boston Bombings, or Taliban, are just following their Book.

[Samseau]

Bill, very interesting stuff, look at what you quoted from that link:

Quote:

A 17th-century grand vizier, himself a slave of the sultan, complained about the 'passle of mentally deficient slave girls, daughters of Russian, Polish, Hungarian and Frankish infidels' whose influence caused him such political grief. The resistance these women provoked serves, of course, as in index to their political power.

17th-century vizier who hated the decadence of his day. 17th-century. That was at the tail end of the Sultanate of Women! Just like I suspected! Women ruled and shit fell apart.

[007]

Here is what the Islamic experts say

Did the devil poke you up the butthole when you were born?

Buggery is ok if it is for Allah

[soup]

How hard would it be for a guy to bang 72 virgins in real life? Let's break this down.

He'd have to surrounded by very young girls and would have to move very swiftly with his game.

He would have to probably be in a community of conservative girls who don't slut it up as much.

[tylerdurden1993]

(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)soup Wrote:  

How hard would it be for a guy to bang 72 virgins in real life? Let's break this down.

He'd have to surrounded by very young girls and would have to move very swiftly with his game.

He would have to probably be in a community of conservative girls who don't slut it up as much.

Haha a high school teacher would be perfect if you wanted to do this and had nerves of steel.

[El Chinito loco]

(04-14-2014 12:03 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

Exactly. Let's seperate the ideology from the simpletons who follow it. Mohammed was a simple tradesman before Islam, an orphan, but also a brilliant one. You can tell his genius by the fact that the book Quran wasn't 'sent' as a whole, it was sent page by page during the course of 23 years. During which time Mohammed observed people's reactions, the society, the dynamics and 'received' the pages accordingly.

I believe when you're talking about a religion it's better to discount the cult leader or founder himself in the discussion. I believe all cult leaders are inherently red pill to some degree. This goes for Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, Jesus, Buddha or whatever. It takes a certain amount of advanced understanding of people and situational awareness of the world to form your own religion and exploit the naive nature of people.

I don't think cult leaders like Mohammed were simply red pill but were probably outright sociopaths too like a lot of ambitious successful men. Like others before and after him, he knew how to pull the right strings at the right times to get what they wanted and ensure his place in the history books.

Aside from power, the pussy was a prime motivator for the founders of religions as well.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-14-2014 04:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-14-2014 03:24 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(04-14-2014 02:42 PM)spalex Wrote:  

I'm going on holiday for the next 8 days so I won't be on the forum watching this thread explode. Which is a shame because I can go on all day about how Islam is probably the worst thing on this planet.

But if you PM me I can send you another 180 pictures like this from the Quran. Then another 300 from the Sunnah that will make you say "these cunts are fucked!" And will likely make you discriminate against anyone who believes in Islam.

Going to chime in here as I ended my main argument earlier, but do you honestly think everyone follows the religion to the word these days? Take a look at the modern culture and you will see swift contradictions much like Christianity. Lets be realistic, do you stone adulterers or do die hard Protestants/Catholic make their wives slaves? Come on man be a bit reasonable here.

The problem is when you do get some diehard followers, people die. Boston Bombings, or Taliban, are just following their Book.

So do we include Nigerian Christians who burn infidels alive or the IRA. Also forgetting Buddhist terrorists such as Phra Kittiwutto or the various ethnic attacks in Myanmar. Including 3rd world or in the IRA's case general nut jobs fails to categorize an entire group.

[tomtud]

Quote from Christopher Hitchens-God is not great
But Islam when examined is not much more than a rather obvious and ill-arranged set of plagiarisms, helping itself from earlier books and traditions as occasion appeared to require. Thus, far from being "born in the clear light of history," as Ernest Renan so generously phrased it, Islam in its origins is just as shady and approximate as those from which it took its borrowings. It makes immense claims for itself, invokes prostrate submission or "surrender" as a maxim to its adherents, and demands deference and respect from nonbelievers into the bargain. There is nothing—absolutely nothing—in its teachings that can even begin to justify such arrogance and presumption.

Urban dictionary quote on red pill.
'Red pill' has become a popular phrase among cyberculture and signifies a free-thinking attitude, and a waking up from a "normal" life of sloth and ignorance. Red pills prefer the truth, no matter how gritty and painful it may be.

@hwuzhere: why deflect the thread,..... Please start a thread on the other faiths that are red pill or what have you. N thank you.


Islam is not red pill. Some Muslims are.

[Comte De St. Germain]

I'm arguing that you cannot judge the actions of a faith based on third world or outside conditions. Generalizing a group through the commonly agreed upon sensationalist media is a presumptuous argument. I'm saying why label one group as fine but another must be generalized because the media says so. Explain that to me. I'm not deflecting, I'm asking what prompts the difference.

[Bushido]

(04-14-2014 07:05 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

So do we include Nigerian Christians who burn infidels alive or the IRA. Also forgetting Buddhist terrorists such as Phra Kittiwutto or the various ethnic attacks in Myanmar. Including 3rd world or in the IRA's case general nut jobs fails to categorize an entire group.

None of the above match the ongoing jihad by Al Qaeda et al across the world.

Islamic terrorists do more in a few months than the IRA did in decades.

Of course you can't categorize all Muslims into this, but Islam is providing inspiration for a shit ton of violence. And that is a problem.

[tomtud]

The media is full of bs. They promote stuff that sell newspapers or increase viewership. They have their own agendas.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(04-14-2014 09:53 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(04-14-2014 07:05 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

So do we include Nigerian Christians who burn infidels alive or the IRA. Also forgetting Buddhist terrorists such as Phra Kittiwutto or the various ethnic attacks in Myanmar. Including 3rd world or in the IRA's case general nut jobs fails to categorize an entire group.

None of the above match the ongoing jihad by Al Qaeda et al across the world.

Islamic terrorists do more in a few months than the IRA did in decades.

Of course you can't categorize all Muslims into this, but Islam is providing inspiration for a shit ton of violence. And that is a problem.

Glad we clarified that so now I can step out and others can make the argument as I cannot deny this. I personally am of the category of belief that it does not create or inspire red pill culture regardless of beliefs bring born into it and all that and taking a step away.

[fortysix]

(04-14-2014 06:59 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(04-14-2014 12:03 PM)turkishcandy Wrote:  

Exactly. Let's seperate the ideology from the simpletons who follow it. Mohammed was a simple tradesman before Islam, an orphan, but also a brilliant one. You can tell his genius by the fact that the book Quran wasn't 'sent' as a whole, it was sent page by page during the course of 23 years. During which time Mohammed observed people's reactions, the society, the dynamics and 'received' the pages accordingly.

I believe when you're talking about a religion it's better to discount the cult leader or founder himself in the discussion. I believe all cult leaders are inherently red pill to some degree. This goes for Joseph Smith, L. Ron Hubbard, Jesus, Buddha or whatever. It takes a certain amount of advanced understanding of people and situational awareness of the world to form your own religion and exploit the naive nature of people.

I don't think cult leaders like Mohammed were simply red pill but were probably outright sociopaths too like a lot of ambitious successful men. Like others before and after him, he knew how to pull the right strings at the right times to get what they wanted and ensure his place in the history books.

Aside from power, the pussy was a prime motivator for the founders of religions as well.

According to all the biographies of Mohammed that I read, he was barely able to support his family because he gave all of his riches away to poor people living in Medina or wherever he was travelling at the given time. I obviously have not confirmed any of the sources used to write these books, but one of the books that I read was written by a non-Muslim historian, so I don't know what the incentive to bs would be. (Obviously the history source could have been written in a b.s. manner, but would multiple people who met Mohammed [assuming he even existed] and recorded their interactions with him go out of their way to make something up such as that he gave all his riches away?)

I'm not Muslim, just writing for the sake of argument.

[Bill]

(04-14-2014 04:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Bill, very interesting stuff, look at what you quoted from that link:

Quote:

A 17th-century grand vizier, himself a slave of the sultan, complained about the 'passle of mentally deficient slave girls, daughters of Russian, Polish, Hungarian and Frankish infidels' whose influence caused him such political grief. The resistance these women provoked serves, of course, as in index to their political power.

17th-century vizier who hated the decadence of his day. 17th-century. That was at the tail end of the Sultanate of Women! Just like I suspected! Women ruled and shit fell apart.

Yes I know but there were also enough crazy sultans. Think of it you have a full harem with the most beautiful girls in the world. And your pimps are going everywhere to organize you new chics. So it becomes an art not to become secually maniac.

Shure one can blame women but it´s not always black and white. For example he mongols are not to be known having women in leadership but they could never create a long lasting empire.

[Crackshot]

I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on Sufism

I have been studying it alot recently it is very interesting

[Sp5]

For those interested in the Ottomans, there's an entertaining Turkish soap opera called Magnificent Century (Muhteşem Yüzyıl).

It was broadcast in Arab countries on the OSN network as Hareem Al Sultan with English subtitles. I haven't been able to find those episodes online.

The plot mostly revolves around the scheming of Suleiman the Magnificent's wives and mother, especially his Ukrainian slave girl wife Hurrem (also Roxana), who is the most ruthless Mean Girl of the series.

Erdogan was bitching about it as a slander a while back, but I think it's still in production.

[Bill]

(04-15-2014 03:14 AM)Crackshot Wrote:  

I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on Sufism

I have been studying it alot recently it is very interesting

You know middle eastern guys are emotional. In general islam is quite aggressive but the other side is the guys who love god and are not afraid of him. They are probably full of oxytocin and talk all day about love. Very popular are the dancing dervishs of Mevlana. Traditionalists dislike these guys because they were perceived feminine and weak and degenerate. They even drank wine and said that general rules don´t apply to them.

[Bill]

(04-15-2014 03:34 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

For those interested in the Ottomans, there's an entertaining Turkish soap opera called Magnificent Century (Muhteşem Yüzyıl).

It was broadcast in Arab countries on the OSN network as Hareem Al Sultan with English subtitles. I haven't been able to find those episodes online.

The plot mostly revolves around the scheming of Suleiman the Magnificent's wives and mother, especially his Ukrainian slave girl wife Hurrem (also Roxana), who is the most ruthless Mean Girl of the series.

Erdogan was bitching about it as a slander a while back, but I think it's still in production.

Yes it´s very popular here Turkey and in the neighboring countries. But I could not manage to watch it as it´s so boring for me.

Yes Erdogan disliked him being seen as the harem guy and not the fighting guy. Yeah Hürrem is a badass girl a hyena.

[Wutang]

(04-13-2014 01:38 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

That does not mean it's for everyone. It is very rule-driven, much like orthodox Judaism. In fact, those who know Judaism will be surprised at how similar Islam is to Judaism. The moral code, dietary laws, monotheism, and overall puritanical aspects of it all reflect Judaic influence.

I alwyas have thought that Judaism and Islam have way more in common with each other than they do with Christianity. The ideal Muslim man resembles the characters in the Old Testament - neither resemble someone like say, the Catholic saints. And yes I do think the strict adherence to the letter of the law is something that Judaism and Islam has in common whatsoever - hence their emphasis on having teachers of the law to work out the littlest details about what is acceptable to eat, what to wear, etc. Can you imagine someone like Jesus being accepted among people like this?

[Crackshot]

Sufism has alot of profound spiritual wisdom.


http://www.returnofkings.com/29522/a-wor...ntury-poet

[Candlejack]

Prophet Mohammad- The strong person is not the good wrestler. Rather, the strong person is the one who controls himself when he is angry.

Prophet Mohammad- Be in this world as if you were a stranger or a wayfarer.

Rumi- Suffering is a gift. In it is hidden mercy.

Islamic philosopher- Reflection is the lamp of the heart. If it departs, the heart will have no light.

Selected Red Pill Islamic quotes.

[Samseau]

(04-17-2014 04:55 PM)Candlejack Wrote:  

Islamic philosopher- Reflection is the lamp of the heart. If it departs, the heart will have no light.

I guess that's why Islamic societies have been trash for so long. An Islamic man cannot make a critique of his religion, government, or people, without facing excommunication or death.

Islam may have had it's fun in the sun, but today it's mostly a backwards, anti-intellectual religion.

[L M McCoy]

(04-15-2014 03:59 AM)Bill Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 03:14 AM)Crackshot Wrote:  

I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on Sufism

I have been studying it alot recently it is very interesting

You know middle eastern guys are emotional. In general islam is quite aggressive but the other side is the guys who love god and are not afraid of him. They are probably full of oxytocin and talk all day about love. Very popular are the dancing dervishs of Mevlana. Traditionalists dislike these guys because they were perceived feminine and weak and degenerate. They even drank wine and said that general rules don´t apply to them.

We're taught to be unemotional. I don't know anything about islam but I know I was raised to be unemotional as fuck.

[Samseau]

(04-17-2014 08:29 PM)L M McCoy Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 03:59 AM)Bill Wrote:  

(04-15-2014 03:14 AM)Crackshot Wrote:  

I am wondering what peoples thoughts are on Sufism

I have been studying it alot recently it is very interesting

You know middle eastern guys are emotional. In general islam is quite aggressive but the other side is the guys who love god and are not afraid of him. They are probably full of oxytocin and talk all day about love. Very popular are the dancing dervishs of Mevlana. Traditionalists dislike these guys because they were perceived feminine and weak and degenerate. They even drank wine and said that general rules don´t apply to them.

We're taught to be unemotional. I don't know anything about islam but I know I was raised to be unemotional as fuck.

You must not be turkish.