So I'm glad our European forum members grew some balls... (Haha, just joking
) But seriously, it's like I got the European Union over here, I'm glad I was able to bring together so many Europeans to stand up for thier continent. I also didn't anticipate that this thread would ruffle quite so many feathers, but maybe that stands to be a good thing.
For the record I was referring to Western Europeans, as E. Europeans are completely different breed all together, and I would agree are quite more masculine typically than Americans or most men in the western world.
I don't get the visceral reaction from so many of our European bretheren on this forum. I straight up said that I was "painting broad strokes", which in other words means I was making generalizations, generalizations obviously don't apply to each and every person. But, usually stereotypes and generalizations are based partially on truth, whether it's pc or whether we like to admit it or not.
Next I straight up said that I'm not your most classically macho or masculine man, I am not trying to put myself on a pedestal as being this uber-macho badass, so I don't get why you guys are trying to clown and put words in my mouth and make me out to portray myself as something I am not. Maybe next time read my words more clearly, because if anything I am just being real and calling it like it is.
That said, I also want to clarify that I am not trying to make male masculinity as the end all be all of what is important in life. There are some super-masculine rednecks in the U.S. that are dumb as a rock, ignorant as fuck, and probably couldn't even point out Germany on a map... Do I think these kinds of people are cool and would I want to hang out with them... No. In that case I'd probably prefer to hang with the feminized Germans or French that can actually hold an interesting and intelligent conversation.
But, I still stand by what I wrote in the original post and I'm glad I got some people who stood up and acknowledged some truth to what I wrote. I'm about to check out of the hostel here soon, but as I type this, there is a French couple two computers down... They look the same, dress the same, and you can't tell which one of them is getting penetrated by the other. I swear I have never seen such a couple with such a masculine woman and such a feminine man. If space aliens landed on our planet from outer space and saw them, I really doubt they would be able to tell who is the man and who is the woman, if you get my drift.
That said, don't think because I use this couple as an example that I am trying to say that all French or all western Europeans are this way, that I am not. However, it would be really rare to see such a couple in the states, although we do have our certain subsets and subcultures of hipsters and others where the masculine and feminine polarities are completely out of whack. To be fair I will say that there is an American hipster here who looks gay as fuck, super short florescent blue shorts, some rainbow colored tank top, and a fanny pack... Again with the fucking fanny packs!! Ughh, but I digress.
Just like I am generalizing with Europeans, Europeans generalize with Americans... I feel like I have been an ambassador to the U.S. on this trip, because I feel like every other European I meet within a minute of being introduced starts talking shit on the U.S. and is grilling me about being American, and says how much everyone hates Americans. I understand because America can be full of ignorant dickheads
, but just like everyone isn't a fat highschool drop out nascar fan, not every European is a gay, feminized, androgyous beta male. I take every person on a case by case basis, even though I have had bad experiences with the French, I still meet a new French person with an open mind and give them a chance to show me they are cool, even though 9/10 times they don't give me a chance and pigeonhole me because I'm American.
Final notes, when I talk about lifting weights and MMA, I am not trying to make these out to be pre-requisites for being a masculine man. In fact, too often I am annoyed as hell by your typical roided up meathead, or douchey tatted crazy agressive agro cage fighter. These are not people and lifestyles that I strive for or try to emulate. That said, I believe in bettering ones self and I believe it is basic human nature that is directly tied to masculinity for a man to have physical strength and be able to defend himself. Physical strength and ability to defend oneself tie into dominance and dominance ties into masculinity.
I have shit for genetics and am by no means a super jacked up dude, and by no means will I be fighting in the UFC, but I do what I can to improve my physical body and physical strength. I learn martial arts because it's a hobby and a lot of guys in the U.S. want to be a "tough guy" so the chances of landing yourself into a fight, even when you aren't looking for it are there. I also like to travel to countries that most of the square, mainstream world consider to be dangerous, so it's nice having the added piece of mind that I have some self-defense skills should I ever need to use them.
One of the last things I will touch on here, before I go, I straight up said in my OP that America can be a tough dating market, and that I find myself frustrated, if that's not self-depricating, I don't know what is. Then guys want to come in and talk even more shit and try to make me out to be some hateful loser that can't get laid. I was just making the point that in the U.S. you don't see such mismatched couples, due to the dynamics of the dating market. For the record, my wording wasn't very clear, but I was mostly referring to seeing mismatched Mexican couples, where the chick is fine, but the dude is short, ugly, fat, old, or dresses like shit.
I have seen mismatched European couples for sure, but it's not like I see European dudes pulling Mexican chicks down here, and not even very many pulling other tourist chicks, it's always dudes with their girlfriends that I am thinking of and referring to. More power to them I guess, I have never been one to promote haterism, and I even call myself on it and admit it when I find myself falling into that negative thought and energy vortex.
I hope this addressed your issue boys, now go eat some steak and eggs, hit the gym, and burn those fucking capris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!