[Wutang]

I give Rousey's face plant on the mat a 10 out of 10

[Tim in real life]

I don't even pay attention to her matches, but I easily tell she's overexposed in the media. Seriously, besides all the praises for her in ESPN AND an Android game endorsement deal, this hype about her seems forced.

[CynicalContrarian]

(11-15-2015 02:05 AM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

I agree, but in our social climate it's not stomach turning but 'empowering.' Rousey is pretty much a feminist wet dream - she's the epitome of Strong Independent Woman™, tough talking, physically unfeminine, kicking ass in a traditionally male dominated arena.

That's what I find amusing.
At face value, Rousey should be the ultimate feminist icon.
Yet her DNB (Do Nothing Bitch) sentiments, the fact that she's fit & athletic & the fact that she's essentially successful,
doesn't garner universal sympathy from the fat, underachieving feminists.
Rousey has actually had a bit of feminist angst thrown at her.

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Exactly what I thought. Have never watched a full female fight and this clip above is the first smashing I've seen for women -- makes me sick and wonder where we've come to as a society.

You get desensitized to it...

"Desensitized to everything. What became of subtlety...?"
- Tool, Stinkfist.

[chyamor]

Had I know holm was such an underdog (+800) would have put $20 on her just because I hate Rousey so much.

[Tex]

I'm a Rousey fan, but I saw the Holm fight as a "typical liberated bar slut" vs. a midwestern religious girl, and I'm glad Holly won. Holly seems like a genuinely good person who is just here to fight.

But more than that this is a huge blow to women's MMA. The reason it was as popular as it was is because you had one girl cleaning up her division like no one had ever done. While I'd argue that she was a badass at it and impressed me, she wasn't this ultimate dominator like she was hyped to be. Anderson Silva's reign was more impressive in a lot of ways, and so was BJ Penn's, so was Renzo Gracie's, and so was GSP's based on the talent these guys faced.

Fans act like the women's divisions are as stacked as the men's and it's just as impressive to dominate them, but it's not. People forget that the hype was starting to get to Ronda and she started believing she could be some kind of role model who knew what was best for people. The girl is a fighter. She's a great fighter, but she isn't a once in a lifetime thing. And no one could have known that until tonight.

Holm deserves it more. She stuck to her style and made Ronda look like a god damn amateur with that boxing.

[samsamsam]

(11-15-2015 02:46 AM)Tex Wrote:  

But more than that this is a huge blow to women's MMA.

Mainly because she was so overhyped and I'm tired of hearing about it all the time.

[Eskhander]

Already posted http://fat.gfycat.com/UltimateCloudyKillifish.webm

[Rush87]

(11-15-2015 02:07 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

Ronda wins all her fights, "She's the best."
Ronda loses one fight: Rush87: Yep. Like I said in another thread. Complete hack.

You MMA fans are a bit difficult.

The one's saying she is the best are new fans to the sport that know zero about it.

Men's MMA has had Olympic Gold Medallists Judoka's handled with ease. Ronda is in a division of 30 ranked opponents. 30 in the entire planet! There are egg and spoon races with more competitors.

Ronda has Judo and that's it. In a mens division if she walked straight forwards, hands down with no defence she would be knocked out in every single fight she has had. She's a hack.

The media, the fans and everyone who would listen claimed nonsense that she would beat men, Mayweather, male MMA fighters etc etc. We even got fed the line that she was "The greatest athlete ever".

Anyone saying she was anything but a hack was either a shill or clueless on the sport. Finally she versus someone who can implement basic lateral movement and a simple jab and guess what? She's out cold.

Those saying "She's the best" aren't MMA fans. They're noobs and shills.

[frenchcorporation]

[CynicalContrarian]

[PrimeTime32]

Funny thing is ESPN are not showing the highlights of her actually getting knocked out. The propaganda continues.

[Wutang]

(11-15-2015 02:46 AM)Tex Wrote:  

I'm a Rousey fan, but I saw the Holm fight as a "typical liberated bar slut" vs. a midwestern religious girl, and I'm glad Holly won. Holly seems like a genuinely good person who is just here to fight.

But more than that this is a huge blow to women's MMA. The reason it was as popular as it was is because you had one girl cleaning up her division like no one had ever done. While I'd argue that she was a badass at it and impressed me, she wasn't this ultimate dominator like she was hyped to be. Anderson Silva's reign was more impressive in a lot of ways, and so was BJ Penn's, so was Renzo Gracie's, and so was GSP's based on the talent these guys faced.

Fans act like the women's divisions are as stacked as the men's and it's just as impressive to dominate them, but it's not. People forget that the hype was starting to get to Ronda and she started believing she could be some kind of role model who knew what was best for people. The girl is a fighter. She's a great fighter, but she isn't a once in a lifetime thing. And no one could have known that until tonight.

Holm deserves it more. She stuck to her style and made Ronda look like a god damn amateur with that boxing.

Ronda was trying to stir up lots of shit before the fight too.

At the weigh ins:

Rhonda tried to get into Holm's face and starting trying to get all uppity when Holm refused to be intimidated. In the interview right after weighing in she goes on some rant about Holm's "fake nice girl act". The whole time Holm keeps calm and doesn't snipe back at Rhonda.

Day of the fight Holm offers to touch gloves before the fight gets underway and Rousey rebuffs her.

Makes this so much more satisfying



EDIT: Also forgot to mention that Rhonda got in a cheap shot right after the horn went off for the end of the 1st round.

[Oz.]

I'm so glad Holm won you don't even understand, she deserved to win that fight. Completely dominated that dumb cunt like she needed to be dominated

[Dirtyblueshirt]

Can't wait for Mayweather to pile on after this result.

[cascadecombo]

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But more than that this is a huge blow to women's MMA. 

More importantly how could womens mma be more interesting on any level? I don't particularly see women attacking eachother as quality entertainment. The ferocity and sheer level of performace just doesn't match up. Personally I see womens mma on the level of the wnba

[Repo]

I knew this was coming someday ever since I saw this gif:

[Blackwell]

(11-15-2015 07:09 AM)Repo Wrote:  

I knew this was coming someday ever since I saw this gif:

Hahaha.

This is great. What the hell is she doing?

I am also very glad Holly Holm got it done.

I guess that's what happens when you take your eye off the ball. Ronda was too busy riding her own hype train and basking in the spotlight to work on her head movement it seems. It was virtually static the whole fight. Also, whilst the head kick was great, Holm absolutely embarrassed her throughout the fight. Her movement, her footwork and the strikes themselves. Ronda had no answer for any of it. Great fight. Can't wait for the rematch.

[CostinR]

I'm really, really glad someone knocked the bitch out. Now she needs to wipe the floor with that bitch in the rematch.

[Foolsgo1d]

What a nice kick. And in a delicate place too.

I'm no fan of UFC, MMA or whatever people like to call it but when people start to say some woman can take men on is not in this reality. So all fights will be conducted with a ref, non-hard surface and rules?

To convince women that all you need is UFC training and an ability to arm bar to take a man on is dangerous. Its like telling your daughter it is ok to walk home through dangerous areas at night.

[Dan Woolf]

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[Days of Broken Arrows]

Can't Holm now be prosecuted under the Violence Against Women Act?

I don't understand something. On the one hand society tells us it's wrong to ever hit a woman. On the other, it promotes women's fighting, even after studies have shown women's bodies are more fragile and they're more prone to injury.

So on the one hand, it's OK to show women beating the shit out of each other, but on the other if you shove your girlfriend out of the way, you do jail time.

We are a confused, hypocritical society. It's no wonder kids in college are all over the place emotionally. We send them mixed signals and then expect them to deal with it.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

Not sure what I find most pleasing

- the bruised and battered, over hyped champion finally humbled

Or

- the "I think I'm gonna throw up" look on Dana White's face

[Neo]

(11-15-2015 03:00 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

The one's saying she is the best are new fans to the sport that know zero about it.

Men's MMA has had Olympic Gold Medallists Judoka's handled with ease. Ronda is in a division of 30 ranked opponents. 30 in the entire planet! There are egg and spoon races with more competitors.

Ronda has Judo and that's it. In a mens division if she walked straight forwards, hands down with no defence she would be knocked out in every single fight she has had. She's a hack.

The media, the fans and everyone who would listen claimed nonsense that she would beat men, Mayweather, male MMA fighters etc etc. We even got fed the line that she was "The greatest athlete ever".

Anyone saying she was anything but a hack was either a shill or clueless on the sport. Finally she versus someone who can implement basic lateral movement and a simple jab and guess what? She's out cold.

Those saying "She's the best" aren't MMA fans. They're noobs and shills.

Exactly, if someone hasn't trained their opinions aren't worth shit. Unfortunately on social media everybody considers themselves an expert.

It's extremely annoying when I see the guy who just signed up to our MMA school about a month ago make comments acting like he's an expert and all his non-training facebook friends are in awe of his 'knowledge'. The same guy who's getting smashed daily.

At least he's training, I'll give him that so his opinion is worth more than someone who's never stepped foot at the mat. But unfortunately we now live in the culture where people lack critical thinking skills and just go along with the crowd. That guy who took one class says Rhonda's the best, of course she is!

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king.

[Jvramerys]

[Jvramerys]

(11-15-2015 02:46 AM)Tex Wrote:  

I'm a Rousey fan, but I saw the Holm fight as a "typical liberated bar slut" vs. a midwestern religious girl, and I'm glad Holly won. Holly seems like a genuinely good person who is just here to fight.

But more than that this is a huge blow to women's MMA. The reason it was as popular as it was is because you had one girl cleaning up her division like no one had ever done. While I'd argue that she was a badass at it and impressed me, she wasn't this ultimate dominator like she was hyped to be. Anderson Silva's reign was more impressive in a lot of ways, and so was BJ Penn's, so was Renzo Gracie's, and so was GSP's based on the talent these guys faced.

Fans act like the women's divisions are as stacked as the men's and it's just as impressive to dominate them, but it's not. People forget that the hype was starting to get to Ronda and she started believing she could be some kind of role model who knew what was best for people. The girl is a fighter. She's a great fighter, but she isn't a once in a lifetime thing. And no one could have known that until tonight.

Holm deserves it more. She stuck to her style and made Ronda look like a god damn amateur with that boxing.