[silverbullit]

This is some beginner shit.

A girl whos been with 15 guys is pretty average.

Nine guys in six months? Aint shit.

The solution is to not fuck any one ho more than three times. After three times, what do you have to gain? It damn sure isnt getting any more exciting or fresh.

Its a players market out there.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Oh god, not this discussion again.

I don't think there is any problem in talking about what is a slut and what merits/flaws it pertains. However, I get really irritated when someone assumes that, just because I (or any other player) has a very low opinion of sluts concerning their character / LTR / marriage, that he goes around screaming in women's faces "OMG YOU'RE A SLUT!!! !#/&#/!&"/!%"!"!"!"!"!##$!¨"

[highandtight]

Not sure if this guy was trolling or not, but not all of these points are so crazy. Hope he didn't get banned just for taking a view contrary to the community's collective wisdom.

Also, re that graphic about infidelity and partner count? Basically it says that any girl with a "number" over five is not marriageable. Good luck to all you players out there trying to land a hot piece of tail with such a low number.

Best not to worry about this shit, which I think the original post may have been saying from the get-go.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

There is some computer program you can run writing through and it tells you whether a man or woman composed the writing. I don't have that program, but have worked in the writing field for years and this reads like the words of a woman. Not just the "eeeewww" as someone pointed out, but the use of the word "rando." WHAT MAN has ever used that word? I've been on these blogs for over a half decade and have never seen that word.

All that said, the commenters have it right. You can't expect a woman who has done A for 15 years to turn around and do B. That's like asking a third baseman to jump over to first. Not gonna happen. Hence the mistrust of sluts being based on reason, not paranoia.

I'm pretty sure, though, that "flyingnimbus" was a woman who snuck onto this forum to "enlighten" men about how they've misjudged the true nature of women blah blah blah. Glad everyone saw through it.

ADDENDUM. I just saw this reply from "flyingnimbus: "Absolute perfect gf (he was a REALLY lame dude)." This is not a sentence a male would write.

Then there is this: "After he dumped her, she went on a rampage. Banged 9 guys in 6 months (including me). But then she met a legit dude in class, and they've been going out for over a year, and she's back to being the most innocent girl you'd ever know (except in the bedroom, from what she tells me)

First of all, I smell more female in that "voice" ("the most innocent girl you'd ever know" sounds like something your aunt would say. Men do NOT speak or write like this.)

Second, it defies logic. This girl is now "innocent," yet she's telling a guy she once slept personal sex details about her new boyfriend? Or did the poster just give herself away, because this is the kind of thing girlfriends discuss? I think the latter.

[bojangles]

I think the slut who shagged 15 guys was the slut who was posting

[rees0306]

I remember my ex telling me she had banged 14 guys and she was only 19. I never felt quite the same I wish I knew then what I do now.

[Samseau]

I honestly wouldn't disqualify an LTR just because she had a high partner counter. I would hold it as a red flag, and if I saw any other red flags I would bail, but if everything else was good then I think I could look past it.

However, I would MUCH rather prefer if she never brought up her sexual history in the first place. I would rather have her lie and pretend to have a low partner count instead of finding out she really is a massive skank.

[Aliblahba]

(01-17-2013 08:18 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I honestly wouldn't disqualify an LTR just because she had a high partner counter. I would hold it as a red flag, and if I saw any other red flags I would bail, but if everything else was good then I think I could look past it.

However, I would MUCH rather prefer if she never brought up her sexual history in the first place. I would rather have her lie and pretend to have a low partner count instead of finding out she really is a massive skank.

Some things are left unsaid. With that being said, I believe everyone can turn a new leaf and hold that course. Would you want to know if an ltr was a heavy coke user previous? Does it matter if it was 1 or 10 years prior? To me yes. Just like the courts. Fuck up, do your time, show a pattern of behavior.

Besides, how are we to judge women, when we are whoring around too? What's good for the goose.

[IRTdenialist]

(01-17-2013 06:45 PM)bojangles Wrote:  

I think the slut who shagged 15 guys was the slut who was posting

That makes total sense bro. I was trying to figure this 'guy' out with no success. It is obviously 15 cocks Sarah Jane, the whole thread stinks of hamster droppings.

[Grit]

(01-17-2013 08:50 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 08:18 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

I honestly wouldn't disqualify an LTR just because she had a high partner counter. I would hold it as a red flag, and if I saw any other red flags I would bail, but if everything else was good then I think I could look past it.

However, I would MUCH rather prefer if she never brought up her sexual history in the first place. I would rather have her lie and pretend to have a low partner count instead of finding out she really is a massive skank.

Some things are left unsaid. With that being said, I believe everyone can turn a new leaf and hold that course. Would you want to know if an ltr was a heavy coke user previous? Does it matter if it was 1 or 10 years prior? To me yes. Just like the courts. Fuck up, do your time, show a pattern of behavior.

Besides, how are we to judge women, when we are whoring around too? What's good for the goose.

Damn good point. If you did coke for ten years and claim to have changed, you have to show several years of not doing coke since.

Not a slut anymore? Prove how long you were one, and how long its been since.

[Ovid]

It is true that people can change. A depressed teenager with family issues who runs away from home, lives on the streets, gets addicted to coke, and has a lot of wild sex with many men can turn her life around. I know a woman who did all of this and then some. Heck, at one point she was dating the biggest drug kingpin in a large Midwestern city. She left all that behind, returned to her Catholic roots, and now lives a humble life as a cleaning lady, married to a lazy dude, and hasn't touched cocaine in more than a decade now. However, this comes at a cost: her wild years left her with a very temperamental stomach and some other health problems, and personality-wise, she is a jaded, cynical smartass, prone to wisecracks and sarcasm. She is also a sociopath -her experiences have left her pretty much emotionally numb. The only way she can feel emotion, according to her, is to blast heavy metal at high volume. She's also unable to have kids, as a side-effect from an abortion. Does she have a good heart? Sure. Would she be an optimal choice for a wife? She herself admits that she would not be. Her wildest exploits nowadays involve drinking a glass of wine with her sisters and cousins, but her experiences on the cock carousel have left an indelible mark.

[Samseau]

(01-17-2013 09:54 PM)Ovid Wrote:  

It is true that people can change. A depressed teenager with family issues who runs away from home, lives on the streets, gets addicted to coke, and has a lot of wild sex with many men can turn her life around. I know a woman who did all of this and then some. Heck, at one point she was dating the biggest drug kingpin in a large Midwestern city. She left all that behind, returned to her Catholic roots, and now lives a humble life as a cleaning lady, married to a lazy dude, and hasn't touched cocaine in more than a decade now. However, this comes at a cost: her wild years left her with a very temperamental stomach and some other health problems, and personality-wise, she is a jaded, cynical smartass, prone to wisecracks and sarcasm. She is also a sociopath -her experiences have left her pretty much emotionally numb. The only way she can feel emotion, according to her, is to blast heavy metal at high volume. She's also unable to have kids, as a side-effect from an abortion. Does she have a good heart? Sure. Would she be an optimal choice for a wife? She herself admits that she would not be. Her wildest exploits nowadays involve drinking a glass of wine with her sisters and cousins, but her experiences on the cock carousel have left an indelible mark.

Those chicks are some of the BEST flings you can have when they're young. Damn good times

[Aliblahba]

So is it ok for a woman to slut around and us not? Or vice versa? Not trolling. Legit question.

[maccc]

Samseau and Ali, thanks for finally bringing some good perspective to this.

It's silly to judge a 27 year old girl who's got proper values yet had a bit of a romp during spring break at age 21. Like Samseau said, it's something to keep an eye on, but if everything else checks out she could make for a fine LTR.

[pants]

So the old timers with a lot if forum cred did not agree with this users opinion and therefore he got banned?

If this forum wants to claim being red pill, banning everyone with a different opinion is probably not the best way to go.

Waiting for the troll smiley.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

No, I think this user was outed as being a hoax/troll -- and a female one at that.

The entire thrust of "his" comments was not only written in a clearly female voice, but spouting "slut shaming" cliches out of women's studies 101. I'd go for a discussion on this with real members not women's studies majors.

(01-18-2013 06:55 AM)pants Wrote:  

So the old timers with a lot if forum cred did not agree with this users opinion and therefore he got banned?

If this forum wants to claim being red pill, banning everyone with a different opinion is probably not the best way to go.

Waiting for the troll smiley.

[Anon-A-Moose]

(01-17-2013 10:59 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

So is it ok for a woman to slut around and us not? Or vice versa? Not trolling. Legit question.

Ever heard the key analogy? If a key opens a lot of locks, it's a master key. If a lock is opened by a lot of keys, it's a shitty lock.

In all seriousness, it IS different. A woman always has a choice of cock. It takes effort to resist the constant appeal, to remember obligations and roles and responsibility both for one self and for the possible others (family, boyfriends, children). While she shouldn't be a bitch/prude either, shouldn't be mean or refuse having sex when it does mean something, such as if in an LTR with a "good" guy, she shouldn't just go spreading her legs for everything. So the non-slut route shows dedication, perseverence, and moral character. She's LTR material.

On the other hand, a man has the OPPOSITE situation. He has to WORK for the pussy. He has to make the advances, he has to put in the work, he has to make it "just happen". For him, it takes EFFORT, it takes DISCIPLINE, and ultimately actually in many ways more moral character. he's (ironically) also LTR material, although, good luck scoring him ladies.

A woman who fucks everything who asks is like a guy who never asks to fuck anything: lack of character, which leads to being unattractive, lonely, and the procurement of large quantities of cats. I like sluts, albeit with a slight resentment at times at how easy it is for them to get what we claw tooth and nail for (like the jock rich kid in college), but I do sit back and shake my head in silence, like watching the mid-30s career woman putting off having a family "just a few more years"--an unintended downward spiral, but it's their choice, and I don't resent them for that in the least bit (actually it's a great thing they're doing)

The shaming of sluts comes not from men, but from women. women use sex to get what they want from men. Much like economics, if two near-identical products are offered at vastly differing prices, the cheaper one is usually purchased. A $15,000 toyota sells more than an $80,000 lexus. So sluts make it so that other women CAN'T USE SEX TO GET MEN'S RESOURCES. That's where the shaming comes in--jealous other women going "you're fucking it up for us! We had a captive market!" So more women get more slutty (see: cougars) in the hopes of getting ever-diminishing returns, in a race to the bottom. Like international labor markets, everyone chops prices and undercuts themselves, while the handful who sit back and watch reap the benefits, laughing all the time.

[Loveless]

I have a related question: is a girl who lost her virginity at 12 automatically a slut? A girl I used to date told me this and I could't get over it. She lost it to some boyfriend she had who was 15 or something like that. She had only been with 6 guys by her mid 20s but the thought of her getting banged at 12 was just too much for me too handle. Irrational of me?

[Giovonny]

(01-17-2013 12:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

When's the last time a man used the words "ewwww" or "rando" in your presence?

Last night during the Celtics game..

[TheMan]

(01-16-2013 08:15 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 05:16 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

Looking back, I realize me freaking out was a result of my own insecurities, and those insecurities torpedoed my relationship with a really awesome woman.

+1

[nek]

(01-19-2013 03:30 AM)Loveless Wrote:  

I have a related question: is a girl who lost her virginity at 12 automatically a slut? A girl I used to date told me this and I could't get over it. She lost it to some boyfriend she had who was 15 or something like that. She had only been with 6 guys by her mid 20s but the thought of her getting banged at 12 was just too much for me too handle. Irrational of me?

No. And questions like these demonstrate you have some ways to go (as do I, so take it as constructive criticism). If you don't like something, don't do it. Forget what other people define as 'irrational'. It's YOUR life. You don't have to overlook it. If her having 2 dicks before yours bothers you, than so be it. If you're ok with her having 20, that's fine too. But you need to be honest with yourself, and most guys, if REALLY HONEST with themselves, aren't cool with committing to a high number. That's the whole key to all this debate, are you truly, honestly, doing what YOU want to do. Get rid of the male hamster in you and be honest with yourself. And if you're afraid of being alone, then you'll have to work on that, as I assure you that sets you up for being in a special kind of hell. Trust your gut.

[nek]

(01-19-2013 11:49 PM)nek Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 03:30 AM)Loveless Wrote:  

I have a related question: is a girl who lost her virginity at 12 automatically a slut? A girl I used to date told me this and I could't get over it. She lost it to some boyfriend she had who was 15 or something like that. She had only been with 6 guys by her mid 20s but the thought of her getting banged at 12 was just too much for me too handle. Irrational of me?

No. And questions like these demonstrate you have some ways to go (as do I, so take it as constructive criticism). If you don't like something, don't do it. Forget what other people define as 'irrational'. It's YOUR life. You don't have to overlook it. If her having 2 dicks before yours bothers you, than so be it. If you're ok with her having 20, that's fine too. But you need to be honest with yourself, and most guys, if REALLY HONEST with themselves, aren't cool with committing to a high number. That's the whole key to all this debate, are you truly, honestly, doing what YOU want to do. Get rid of the male hamster in you and be honest with yourself. And if you're afraid of being alone, then you'll have to work on that, as I assure you that sets you up for being in a special kind of hell. Trust your gut.

Went on a bit of a tangent (my bad, drunk, just got in), but the same applys to you being comfortable with the age she lost her v card at.

[Loveless]

(01-19-2013 11:55 PM)nek Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 11:49 PM)nek Wrote:  

(01-19-2013 03:30 AM)Loveless Wrote:  

I have a related question: is a girl who lost her virginity at 12 automatically a slut? A girl I used to date told me this and I could't get over it. She lost it to some boyfriend she had who was 15 or something like that. She had only been with 6 guys by her mid 20s but the thought of her getting banged at 12 was just too much for me too handle. Irrational of me?

No. And questions like these demonstrate you have some ways to go (as do I, so take it as constructive criticism). If you don't like something, don't do it. Forget what other people define as 'irrational'. It's YOUR life. You don't have to overlook it. If her having 2 dicks before yours bothers you, than so be it. If you're ok with her having 20, that's fine too. But you need to be honest with yourself, and most guys, if REALLY HONEST with themselves, aren't cool with committing to a high number. That's the whole key to all this debate, are you truly, honestly, doing what YOU want to do. Get rid of the male hamster in you and be honest with yourself. And if you're afraid of being alone, then you'll have to work on that, as I assure you that sets you up for being in a special kind of hell. Trust your gut.

Went on a bit of a tangent (my bad, drunk, just got in), but the same applys to you being comfortable with the age she lost her v card at.

I see your point. I cared a lot then (4 years ago) but probably wouldn't care now. The background of a girl matters less to me as I get older, my notch count grows and I just become more mellow overall. Anyway I dumped the girl for an entirely different set of reasons.