[flyingnimbus]

(01-16-2013 09:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Look Nimbus, I know your intent was good, but you are way out of your area of expertise.

I'm going to save you some trouble.

You try and LTR a slut, I don't give a shit how "alpha" you think you are, she is one to many drinks away from betraying you at any time.

Saying guys are insecure is fucking retarded.

It's more accurate to say guys simply don't trust sluts.

Hey, if you disagree with the points I'm making here, that's cool. All I'm doing is criticizing the "she's a slut so she's gonna cheat on me" mentality that worked against me in past relationships and promoting one that's helped me have some great relationships over the past four or so years. If in your experience this doesn't ring true, that's fine. Instead of attacking me, make the case for why you shouldn't get into an ltr with a woman if she's banged more than 2 guys.

[IRTdenialist]

Sounds like you've been sniffing coke off of hairy ass cracks bro.

(01-16-2013 09:50 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 09:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Look Nimbus, I know your intent was good, but you are way out of your area of expertise.

I'm going to save you some trouble.

You try and LTR a slut, I don't give a shit how "alpha" you think you are, she is one to many drinks away from betraying you at any time.

Saying guys are insecure is fucking retarded.

It's more accurate to say guys simply don't trust sluts.

Hey, if you disagree with the points I'm making here, that's cool. All I'm doing is criticizing the "she's a slut so she's gonna cheat on me" mentality that worked against me in past relationships and promoting one that's helped me have some great relationships over the past four or so years. If in your experience this doesn't ring true, that's fine. Instead of attacking me, make the case for why you shouldn't get into an ltr with a woman if she's banged more than 2 guys.

[Duke Castile]

(01-16-2013 09:50 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 09:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Look Nimbus, I know your intent was good, but you are way out of your area of expertise.

I'm going to save you some trouble.

You try and LTR a slut, I don't give a shit how "alpha" you think you are, she is one to many drinks away from betraying you at any time.

Saying guys are insecure is fucking retarded.

It's more accurate to say guys simply don't trust sluts.

Hey, if you disagree with the points I'm making here, that's cool. All I'm doing is criticizing the "she's a slut so she's gonna cheat on me" mentality that worked against me in past relationships and promoting one that's helped me have some great relationships over the past four or so years. If in your experience this doesn't ring true, that's fine. Instead of attacking me, make the case for why you shouldn't get into an ltr with a woman if she's banged more than 2 guys.

That's it.

Bro, you don't know shit. I don't need to make a case at all. There are archives here that blows your little theory out of the water.

4 years experience?

Do you understand how pathetically short that time is to start making claims about everyone's "insecurities"?

Now you're moving the goal posts again.

How "alpha" of you to keep doing all this backpeddaling.

Your example included a girl that fucked 15 guys and what a slut is.

Now you've redefined which sluts you're specifically talking about and have gone from 15 dicks to 2.

You aren't starting out on a good foot here.

Genius.

[Ziltoid]

(01-16-2013 09:41 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

An, so ziltoids sex advice is "pump for 30 seconds and you're good." /facepalm

Actually, my advice is that if you care much at all about how sex feels for her, you might as well cut your dick off.

(not an original sentiment)
http://www.rooshv.com/it-doesnt-matter-i...sms-or-not

[Hannibal]

(01-16-2013 05:39 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

@blackglasses If you've slept with 100 women, does that make you worse "husband material" than if you've only slept with 5 women. If not, why not?

Thing is, we can keep our pants zipped when we're horny, because we've been horny since we were 13 and we've learned how to keep it in.

That, and the way marriage works is that the husband provides for the wife in exchange for children that are his genetic legacy and not a result of her fucking around with the mailman.

Women, as a whole, cannot control themselves once they've been properly aroused. They don't get turned on as much, and when they do, they'd suck your best friends dick in front of you if it makes them feel better. A girl in her 20's nowadays is pretty much enabled by society to fuck around as she pleases.

You ever read the website yourbrainonporn.com? Actually, I'm not sure if that's the right one, but get this. If you get addicted to pornography, you're going to have a hard time pair bonding with a female. It makes sense. Your lizard brain doesn't know that you're actually not have sex with those pixels on your screen, so it desensitizes the pleasure regions of your brain that tells you you're getting laid by so many attractive women. This makes sense to me because your stereotypical alpha is so noncommittal (by choice) because he's gotten so much ass in the past that a one night stand or a blowjob here and there don't mean much to him except for his own enjoyment.

Now flip the tables a bit. Imagine a girl who has fucked fifteen dudes over a period of five, maybe ten years. Their brains are not like ours, but they're not terribly different when it comes to the reward centers of the brain. Think about it. She's sucked miles of dick and taken it up the ass from most of them at some point, how well bonded do you think she'll be to you when you two do the same? I don't give a shit if you think you've got A level game here, she's going to fuck around on you sooner or later. She's like a used bandaid, she'll come unstuck sooner or later and find another scab to glom onto for another couple months before her babyclock starts to really tick.

I've had relationships with sluts before when I thought I could turn a ho into a housewife. Try to keep the time below a couple months, I find that the 2.5 months mark is about perfect to cut it off.

[flyingnimbus]

(01-16-2013 09:59 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 09:50 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 09:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Look Nimbus, I know your intent was good, but you are way out of your area of expertise.

I'm going to save you some trouble.

You try and LTR a slut, I don't give a shit how "alpha" you think you are, she is one to many drinks away from betraying you at any time.

Saying guys are insecure is fucking retarded.

It's more accurate to say guys simply don't trust sluts.

Hey, if you disagree with the points I'm making here, that's cool. All I'm doing is criticizing the "she's a slut so she's gonna cheat on me" mentality that worked against me in past relationships and promoting one that's helped me have some great relationships over the past four or so years. If in your experience this doesn't ring true, that's fine. Instead of attacking me, make the case for why you shouldn't get into an ltr with a woman if she's banged more than 2 guys.

That's it.

Bro, you don't know shit. I don't need to make a case at all. There are archives here that blows your little theory out of the water.

4 years experience?

Do you understand how pathetically short that time is to start making claims about everyone's "insecurities"?

Now you're moving the goal posts again.

How "alpha" of you to keep doing all this backpeddaling.

Your example included a girl that fucked 15 guys and what a slut is.

Now you've redefined which sluts you're specifically talking about and have gone from 15 dicks to 2.

You aren't starting out on a good foot here.

Genius.

I'll defend 30, but people earlier were saying that 2 is too much. If you have a different bar, work off that.

Here's what's frustrating: I'm making the case that the number of past partners is NOT something that disqualifies a woman from ltr material. That's not radical, even in the "blue pill" world where sex is taboo. I've cited personal examples and laid out the reasoning. And yet most responses so far have just been "you suck"

I had hoped that on a forum filled with guys who have a unique perspective of hooking up with and dating all kinds of women that this could have been an interesting conversation. So far it hasn't. Back to work.

[WesternCancer]

[Duke Castile]

(01-16-2013 10:28 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Exactly. He's a troll and doesn't even know it though.

[Pappy]

(01-16-2013 09:31 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

I think most women have both personalities. For example, I've known this girl Lauren for 5 years. She met a dude her freshman year of college, lost her vCard to him and they dated for 3 years. She embodied all of the "good girl" traits during that time. Absolute perfect gf (he was a REALLY lame dude).

After he dumped her, she went on a rampage. Banged 9 guys in 6 months (including me)

But then she met a legit dude in class, and they've been going out for over a year, and she's back to being the most innocent girl you'd ever know (except in the bedroom, from what she tells me)

I had a close friend who was exactly like the girl you describe. At the core she was really sweet and sensitive. But let me tell you something, after doing that sex lifestyle for 15 years, she really changed. She lost a lot of that sweetness, and even if she could make great efforts to be a good girl again, she's like a recovering alchoolic. Her breath just stinks.

(01-16-2013 09:31 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

And yea, some of them have banged dudes when they're boyfriends act like chumps. I think that's totally fine...

See that's the problem. Loyalty is extremely important when you want to make a family. Fisto is right : at the first time of trouble, sluts will betray you. And we can criticize guys who act like chumps, but when you're invested into a girl, and you want to make a family with her, you lose a lot of coolness. Your money, balls and freedom are tied to her.

I tried to ltr sluts in the past. Yes they can be real sweet and good, and sometimes I feel sorry for them, but the bottom line is when they're unhappy they will revert to their slut tactics, and these tactics often include other cocks. Soon you will be fucking tired of her inviting ex boyfriends to her house whenever you have an argument. I don't have time to watch my back in my own family.

[Duke Castile]

Nimbus,

All you've laid out is that you haven't read anything on this forum but came up with your own little theories based of your limited experience.

Guys are basically saying "you suck" because you come off as an arrogant know it all and you have zero credibility.

I'm rolling my eyes listening to you because it's beyond naive.

Also most guys here don't want to waste their time schooling you.

[estivaneli]

i just skim to this post
but this sound a lot like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...xWuREjuLAE

is the op tyler?

[nek]

(01-16-2013 08:42 PM)flyingnimbus Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 08:35 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I read the first paragraph and I stopped.

You're making a lot of assumptions. No one on this forum is being "held back" by understanding the nature of women.

You can walk out and call any random girl a slut and you will be correct 90% of the time. EVERY girl will cheat under the right circumstances.

You're also being very arrogant to try and tell a bunch of guys that have collectively a shit load more experience than you that their thinking is wrong and yours is right.

I can't stand it when some newbie who has zero cred comes on here handing out life lessons.

Let me crack some eggs of knowledge on you.

I'lll fuck your girlfriend and let you ponder whether she was a slut or not.

Hey man, please share your experiences. That what a forum is all about.

My contention is that women generally (there are of course exceptions) will not cheat on you IF you are an alpha dude. That's means your hitting the gym, working your ass off, exciting, fuck her good and don't act like an insecure little bitch around her. that's because women get crazy attached to these kinds of guys

Women will cheat on you all the time if your a beta dude who's lazy, boring and insecure. Most men fall into this category

See, this ALPHA dude thing is missing a few things:

1.) There is always someone better (read: more alpha) than you. There isn't some threshold at which you're good enough so she won't try for better if it comes her way

2.) Being in a relationship for a long time makes in hard to be exciting, mysterious, all these things around someone you're really familiar with. This is an advantage interlopers have over you. Whether you could kick the shit out of them or not, they're new and mysterious.

3.) You know what keeps a guys confidence up? Banging other women. But if you do that, then you're not in a relationship in the sense you're defining one (since you talk about cheating exlcusivity seems to be part of your definition). So being that confident guy in a relationship is a bit of a paradox.

I think what's hard for people to accept is the raw scientific nature of the male-female dynamic. They try to twist it into something grand. "Something Special", "mean something", a relationship. It's not. The male-female interaction is based on what the female can obtain from the main in terms of genes for the children and/or provisioning (see Briffault's law I believe). Once you understand the science behind it, as shitty as it may be at first, the better off you'll be in the long run.

Also, I've seen where a guy has dated a girl for the better part of a decade, was cool the whole time, and then flipped the switch once married. You'd think that she would've shown signs during the dating, and maybe she did and my buddy didn't pick up on it, but she was able to stay cool the whole time until after the honeymoon. So while a chick may seem cool during the pursuit of committment, it doesn't mean it'll last into the committment.

[Aliblahba]

Men call women sluts out of insecurity. They have had years of poor experiences of women cheating, and assume bad behavior from all women. To understand women is to understand acceptance. Girls only cheat due to lack of alphaness in males. For this reason women are acting out. Ignore it and she'll eventually stop fucking other guys behind your back.

[Duke Castile]

This^

A buddy of mine was dating a girl for almost 10 years. She followed him from New Hampshire to LA to be near him. Finally they started dating. After years they moved in together. All she did was pressure him about marriage. around the 9th or 10th year he finally agrees to marry her. Less than a year later they're divorced because she met some guy at work that "made her feel alive".

[Ovid]

If by LTR the OP means a high-school-esque relationship of a few months characterized by a lot of sex, occasional 'boyfriend/girlfriend activities' (like going to the zoo together or whatnot) and not much else, then yeah, no harm in seeing the elephants with a hooker even, if that's your thing. But anything more than that ...emotional commitment, love, marriage, children... all very bad ideas, for the reasons already mentioned in this thread.

[scorpion]

LOL this guy can't be for real.

His girl tells him to his face how she got banged out in a bathroom at a party and took 15 dicks and instead of immediately kicking her to the curb, he rationalizes her behavior and defends her right to be a slut. He say's it's ok because he goes to the gym and "fucks her good".

He doe this while calling himself "alpha".

Nimbus, let me drop a little wisdom her for you. Any woman who tells you about her past sex exploits with such utter shamelessness does not think you're an alpha. In fact, she has basically zero respect for you as a man! A woman telling a man to his face about how she got fucked by other men is being incredibly disrespectful. The fact that you don't even realize this alone is bad enough, but for you to come here and act like you're somehow enlightened and start offering instruction to the forum is equal parts galling and hilarious.

[Only One Man]

Come on guys. The OP is obviously a female.

[Tuthmosis]

(01-16-2013 10:42 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

(01-16-2013 10:28 PM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

Exactly. He's a troll and doesn't even know it though.

I know it.

[Tuthmosis]

You guys got trolled nasty. When's the last time a man used the words "ewwww" or "rando" in your presence?



Quotes of the thread come from Fisto, though:

Quote:

Let me crack some eggs of knowledge on you.

Quote:

I'lll fuck your girlfriend and let you ponder whether she was a slut or not.

[UgSlayer]

(01-17-2013 12:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

You guys got trolled nasty. When's the last time a man used the words "ewwww" or "rando" in your presence?

Challenge accepted

[Duke Castile]

Yeah that word "eeeew" stuck out to me also. Shit.

[Ziltoid]

(01-17-2013 12:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

You guys got trolled nasty.

I never assume conspiracy when idiocy is a perfectly viable explanation.

[GenJx]

Quote:

Those stories about her getting fucked by other dudes are her sharing FUN experiences that she’s had with you, just like her telling you about her trip to Disney World or something.

[IRTdenialist]

(01-17-2013 12:20 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 12:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

You guys got trolled nasty. When's the last time a man used the words "ewwww" or "rando" in your presence?

Challenge accepted

That freeze frame makes me wanna go out and do some illegal whale fishing, harpoon in hand.

[soup]

(01-17-2013 01:56 PM)IRTdenialist Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 12:20 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

(01-17-2013 12:09 AM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

You guys got trolled nasty. When's the last time a man used the words "ewwww" or "rando" in your presence?

Challenge accepted

That freeze frame makes me wanna go out and do some illegal whale fishing, harpoon in hand.

Ha I've been getting agitated by that freeze frame of the pig too. That shit is like contraband around here. We really need a NSFP (not safe for players) warning or rollover feature or button.