Quote: (12-18-2014 03:34 PM)The Reactionary Tree Wrote:
I am calling bullshit on this Cuba has such great infrastructure. If Cuba is truly this grand socialist paradise, then why are people swimming through 90 miles of shark infested waters to come the USA with literally nothing?
You want to know why the infant mortality rate is so low in Cuba? It is because patients have zero rights when it comes to reproduction. If an ultrasound shows fetal abnormalities, the fetus is aborted regardless of what the mother wants. That helps keep the infant mortality rate low when you are killing them off before they can even be born.
Patients have no rights. Their is no such thing as patient privacy (no HIPAA). There is no such thing as medical malpractice lawsuits either.
This comes from a report from Katherine Hirschfeld who spent almost a year in Cuba studying their healthcare system in the late 90s.
Re-examining the Cuban Health Care System
Nuggets from the report:
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Yea... Sounds like a fan-fucking-tastic health care system.
Best. Health care. Ever.
For your source:
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Eliciting critical narratives regarding the health care system therefore necessitated informal research methods, and much of the information I gathered on these topics is fragmented and anecdotal.
I have never said Cuba is some gleaming beacon of hope, it performs better then Canada by a bit.. my country can do better also but I am not going to slag it around like you have simply for bias.
China aborts deformed fetuses also. In Japan abortions are used as a means of birth control, it has the lowest infant mortality rate age in the world. America aborts 52% of Black children. If your going to throw mud, toss it all around. Throw your shame on those places as well.
So instead of just looking at collected health data she goes cherry picking for stories. Canadians go down to Cuba to get certain specialist care all the time if they can get it quicker then in Canada since it will cost less then in America.
Go ahead and believe some woman's hamster paper of interviews with Cubans who were likely trolling, or you can look at WHO and actual health data from the country. It is far from idea but in terms of delivering
basic primary health care to its citizens it success better then the USA. Period. Of course if you want specialist care like dentist work the USA is the top in the world, but for basic healthcare it is ranked the same as Eastern Europe and Romania, other places which have crony health care systems.
American's have this high mighty view on health when they have one of the most sickly and unfit population on earth. It has never made any sense. The rest of the world laughs at America.
IF you have the cash, sure you get taken care of well but the majority of American do not have good access to reliable healthcare and it shoes in the health outcomes of the American population.
But healthcare it is what it is. It is the best healthcare system for Cuba, and the best model for poor and developing nations to implement and mimic as the results have clearly shown its success. Cuba can't waste money building glass and marble Hospital complexes that look like luxury condo buildings. It can't waste money on circle jerk medical systems that frustrate doctors and just create more waste in spending. It runs a simple and streamline system in which it has to just deliver simple and basic health care. But that alone puts it ahead of America because even with the highest per person spending on health on earth, America still can't even achieve the basics on a elite level. The idea of preventative medicine isn't even mainstream in America as that would eat away at private health profits. In developing nations with good sound systems more money is spent keeping people healthy and away from pricey treatments versus here in the west where we throw expensive solutions at problems that are cheap to prevent.
Now you see Americans trying to piggy back onto the Cuban MGI community model American schools have take the idea and re-branded it as something new and cool when more modest places have been doing it out of need for decades now.
If you want to talk about the economics of Cuba then I can agree with you on many things. But trying to toss mud on the Cuban health system, as a American, can't be taken seriously. So many flaws in your own system that a tiny poor isolated nation such as Cuba performs better. That means more introspective looks at your own local system is needed, not at others.