Quote: (03-28-2014 03:35 PM)Sharky Jackson Wrote:
Quote: (03-28-2014 03:29 PM)Fisto Wrote:
Theres zero holes in my theory.
Look at the inverse and just assume only black people exist.
Again, have a nice life.
No world wars...
No nuclear weapons...
No global warming...
No genocide...
Quote: (03-28-2014 03:29 PM)Fisto Wrote:
Somalia is probably the best representative of what that theoretical world would look like. Except their weaponry would be much more primitive.
Without modern weapons Somalia as it exists today would not exist, so that's a non-starter.
It really give me the creeps to hear educated people blaming the evil white man for all the disgraces of this world; it reminds me of the falacy if women ruled the world there would be no wars, no corruption, no inequality and bullshit like that. And this connects with the paralelism between feminism and racism that I've mentioned in other threads and for which white men are the scapegoat for all the misfortunes of other echnic groups in the same way men are for all the problems faced by woman, from biological, to professional. Or like those guys who just can't get laid and instead of learning game, work out, practice, travel, etc embrace excuses or blame society for their very own incapacities or mistakes.
War, domination, xenophobe, etc are in the DNA of all known human groups and they all have practiced it in a more or less sophisticated way depending on their advancement barbarias ever tread on African soil it was all peace and armony? No wars? No slavery? No ethnic cleansings of some tribes against others? You are too smart to believe your own delusions. All this comes from the social-engineering we are going through in all stages of education and all the criminalization of European History while when you travel get to know that elsewhere people celebrate their history and feel proud of their Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire, Islamic Caliphate, Thai Empire, just to mention a few, no matter how crimes against humanity were commited under their rule. Like that bullshit of your African-american history month... if you want to focuse in USA history then do it right and study it as a whole in which any facts and individuals worth being studied should be included if not make a Hispanic history quarter to study Bernardo de Gálvez, Fray Junípero Serra, El Camino Real, San Agustín, Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca, etc did more for the USA than George Washington Carver or Sara Parks
Read what an African and one of the greatest islamic scholars of all time, Ibn Khaldun, wrote about black people in the XIVth century when caucasians were still confined in their natural territories. Was this also European's fault?
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On black people[edit]
The only people who accept slavery are the Negroes, owing to their low degree of humanity and proximity to the animal stage. Other persons who accept the status of slave do so as a means of attaining high rank, or power, or wealth, as is the case with the Mameluke Turks in the East and with those Franks and Galicians who enter the service of the state [in Spain].
Ibn Khaldun as quoted in Bernard Lewis, Race and Color in Islam, Harper and Row, 1970, quote on page 38. The brackets are displayed by Lewis.
"Beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings."
Muqaddimah
"Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."
Muqaddimah
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ibn_Khaldun...ack_people
Now he can be censored, banned from official curricula or deprived from his status of pioneer of historiography, sociology and economics because some don't like what he says as they tried to do with James Watson.
If there would be an epidemy that whiped white all and every white person in this world Somalia would still be Somalia, Nigeria would still be Nigeria and Detroit would still be Detroit. Just you'd have no white women to bang and would have to reluctantly accept to bang black females... Haiti was the second country to gain independence in America after the USA; as you know, after they got rid of the French yoke they become the most prosperous nation in oh wait, you have made your bed, now lie in it. On the other hand, do you think Norway, France or Canada would turn into mayhem? I hesitate it. Take an example of Orania in South Africa, an oasis of peace and armony where everything works in the heart of convulse South Africa.
The only thing you are right is that if Africans had been left in the cultural and technological state they were in when first Europeans contacted them world would be a much better place to live in.they were colonized the damage they could do to themselves would have been minimum.
The overwhelming majority of educated people would never disregard another individual on the grounds of race, faith, nationality and all that. There are three kinds of people: those who make our life better, those who don't make it better nor worse and those who are a pain in the ass. Many white people and many of your brothers are sisters fall into the last group because of violence, antisocial behaviour, entitlement etc. Difference is that you won't see many whites excusing them or giving them any moral support (not here at least); however there is a sense of tribe among others, specially people of african heritage, to always side with other black people no matter how unfair it may be. Siding with people of your own kind under any circumstances can't be considered racism?
Then there is a minority (you just have to take a look at the results of any political party who advocate for weird "racist" ideas) who are concerned with the idea of the survival of their own ethnic group and the right to rule their lifes on their own without foreign interferences. They believe they have the right to have their own space in this world where their ethnic group could exist peacefully without being disturbed by others, and who feel threaten by the fact that there is a constant flow of foreigners who flock into their countries and slowly but steadily take over their vital space to a point they'll either be whiped own from their own ancestral lands or will become a minority there. Which from my point of view isn't necessarily bad and is a feeling in the soul of Touré, Sankara, Nkurumah or Amílcar Cabral or anybody involved in African anticolonialist movement or in the national liberation movements elsewhere in the world. This is the same people who preffer to date inside their own community and who doesn't feel comfortable when foreigners try to interfer with them; just like happens with muslims or chinese communities in Europe just to mention a couple.
I'm really curious (from a sociological point of view) about what would happen if a Mugabe came to power in a major western European country and enforced the very same policies Mugabe has against the non-ethnic African inhabitants.