Quote: (07-19-2012 02:28 PM)Kona Wrote:
Quote: (07-19-2012 12:34 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:
From what I hear some types of fish are higher in Omega-3's, the best being wild Alaskan salmon. Another concern with eating a lot of fish vs. fish oil, might be the amount of toxins and mercury in straight up eating fish.
There is no mercury risk to you whatsoever from eating fish, unless for some reason the factory that processes your fish actually dips it in mercury.
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I've been seriously considering putting money behind some type of low budget study about this. It drives me crazy when people say this. I'm also dealing with the neighbor bitch who's kid has autism. She still claims it's from mercury. The autism kid got my little nephew thrown out of summer camp. This mercury-causes-autism charge is mainly related to vaccines, but is led by celebrity Jenny McCarthy who should shut the hell up. It's also bullshit.
OGNORCAL, eat fish, it's ok.
@ Kona, I realize you wrote the above snip-its over a year ago (and I had not even heard of RVF, then... he he he), and I largely agree with a lot of your overall conclusion, except for maybe slightly different reasons.
1) I think Mercury is a concern - except most of the time the selenium value in the fish off-sets the mercury - so in many instance the mercury is not a big deal.
This linked website talks about how selenium offsets negative effects of mercury.
http://www.naturalnews.com/026729_seleni..._fish.html
2) I think that there are a lot of problems with mercury and aluminum in vaccines - I do not think those claims about autism from immunizations are off base, but that is a separate discussion and separate issue from whether or not one should eat fish.
@ Kona : I agree with your overall conclusion to eat fish and don't need to pay that much attention to mercury, unless the fish is low in selenium and if you eat a lot of the fish without somehow getting selenium in your system. Ultimately the benefits of eating fish outweigh the negatives of the mercury.
Quote: (09-02-2013 07:06 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:
Cod Liver Oil VS Fish Oil, which one do you guys like more?
I looked on the labels and they are similar except Cod Liver Oil has Vitamin D and Vitamin A.
I live in sunny climates so I have no issues with Vitamin D and I heard Vitamin A is harmful in high doses.
I just bought another bottle of Fish Oil (Carlson's) but I was wonder your guys take.
MikeCF?
@ GMan: IMHO: The jury does not seem to be in, exactly, regarding whether supplementing with fish oil, versus actually eating fish, is actually beneficial or not, and part of the debates about the benefits have to do with questions of oxidation (how long these things may sit on the shelf and also oxidation in our bodies), which I have seen some discussion that there are greater potentials for oxidation with tablet forms of fish oil as compared with the kinds of oils in the liquid in the bottle.
http://www.baltimorehealthpc.com/49-is-l...n-capsules
Questions concerning keeping fish oils from going rancid:
http://paleohacks.com/questions/35482/ho...z2e6VVGhv9
Chris Kresser wrote an extensive article on considerations in buying fish oils in May 2010:
http://chriskresser.com/the-definitive-f...yers-guide
Even though Kresser has studied the fish oil topic a lot, he does not seem to land exactly in the camp that recommends supplements - except in late 2010, he says that he supplements with cod liver oil. He provides several articles and links:
The selenium/mercury issue here:
http://chriskresser.com/is-eating-fish-s...ating-fish
The overview of fish fat issues, here:
http://chriskresser.com/essentialfattyacids
and
The latest article about oxidation in October 2010 here - and he also talks about Vitamin A and Vitamin D issues:
http://chriskresser.com/when-it-comes-to...not-better
In essence, I personally attempt to eat fish on a regular basis in order to increase my omega 3 to 6 ratio (which also can be helpful by cutting out certain vegetable and industrial oils - so we may not need as much Omega 3 if we cut out some of the omega 6s) and I supplement by taking flavored (lemon and cherry) cod liver oil in a bottle b/c i am more worried about how long the tablet forms of fish oil may have been in the tablets and possibly exposed to light.