It's remarkable how clearly Anfisa communicates with Jorge and he still doesn't get it. Subtle cues in body language are often hard to pick up on; larger cues not so much. But just listen to the stuff she outright tells him:

"George and I met online. George said he was rich, so I responded."

"George didn't deliver on his promises to buy me nice things."

George: "You keep wanting more and more. When is the end?"
Anfisa: "Never."

"Can you afford this?" - notice, not "can we", they're not a couple, just a hoe (him) and a pimp (her)

It doesn't get any clearer.

It's funny how red pill guys tend to disregard what women say. Instead, we listen to their actions, their body language, tone, behavior.

The latter being the last fronts a woman can control in their communication, and their speech being the first.

These blue pill guys are so delusional trying to make things fit into their dreamed life. Or setting themselves up for disappointment by either expecting people to change or by creating expectations that will never be attended. They need to be told to open their ears. It's ridiculous.

Fake or not, there's hundreds of thousands of couples just like this out there - and that's more depressing than the fact that this one exists.

The show is semi-fake, because you can observe the couples on social media. No one is going to fake his own life for a couple grand that they get for show participation. Some of the more well-off guys were even there for the usual narcissistic reasons. And they usually don't participate in the follow-ups. The ones who are cash-strapped do of course, since every dollar counts.

Then they get the directors who tell them to rile it up for a scene, maybe make up a certain conflict. The couples that have separated or struggle don't want to be on the show, because they feel stupid. The apartment of the Muslim guy was rented short-term because the owner of his real apartment did not give permission for recording, so they had to stage a different one. And those two are both struggling financially. However that 40-something cow trying to get a Muslim fuckboi - this is not new. She realized that she could fuck men better than any she had before.

As for the Jorge and Anfisa couple - the guy created a biz making around 80k+ which is not bad. One guy off Twitter went out looking for him and met this George fellow. He ordered a bigger batch of weed from him and heard the story. The biggest problem of the George/Jorge fellow is his abject Blue Pill state. The Blue Pill and Beta indoctrination destroys men - it is like a deliberate skull-fucking that the women do. Sure - his female family members warn him about her, but I think most of it is simply based on the fact that it is a Russian woman. If Jorge had been Red Pill, 8% bodyfat and a shitlord who got himself a true good girl from Russia/Ukraine, then they would be hating on her as well. The Bitches propagate the Blue Pill view 24/7 and then wonder why men choose Russian cam-girls in the West. They choose Russian camgirls because Jorge does not want to be straddled with an obese single mother from the US. At least he got to bang a woman who is very hot to him - it cost him plenty, but he will live - he is only 28.

Quote: (06-29-2017 04:22 PM)Ringo Wrote:  

It's remarkable how clearly Anfisa communicates with Jorge and he still doesn't get it.

Quickest, easiest definition of a simp:

A simp is a guy who falls in love.

The crux of Jorge's problem is that he's a simp, and he's in love with Anfisa. In his eyes (and heart), his love for her is absolute. You can't get him to "see the light" — he has already seen the light, and her name is Anfisa.

If she treats him terribly, he doesn't think, "Maybe I need to re-assess my view of this girl." He knows her behavior is bad, he doesn't like it and wishes it was otherwise. But he sincerely believes their problems can be worked out. Why? Because he loves her. He is in love with her. And love, as we all know, conquers all.

Likewise, if a day goes by and she hasn't been horrible to him, he interprets that as things getting better between them.

You can't reason with a guy like this. He's in a state of waking hypnosis. Anfisa is truly his "dream" girl. He not only wants to spend the rest of his life with her, he believes that she is the perfect girl for him and they are destined to be together. To him it seems self-evident, while to outsiders it's obvious that he's being taken for a ride.

My cousin's wife bought a 200k BMW a couple weeks ago! I was there and I'll never forget the look on his face!! He didn't say a word where she was talking in front of us to the salesman with her hands next to each other behind her back in an oval shape.

I said to him
"you see her hands, that's your balls, go get your fucking balls back!!"

It was like being at his funeral! He didn't say a word... lost my respect where I always looked up to him cause he was a player in his day!

Quote: (07-06-2017 11:17 AM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

My cousin's wife bought a 200k BMW a couple weeks ago! I was there and I'll never forget the look on his face!! He didn't say a word where she was talking in front of us to the salesman with her hands next to each other behind her back in an oval shape.

I said to him
"you see her hands, that's your balls, go get your fucking balls back!!"

It was like being at his funeral! He didn't say a word... lost my respect where I always looked up to him cause he was a player in his day!

Does BMW even sell $200,000 cars? I was looking at the 2017 models and could find anything near that.

Quote: (07-26-2017 08:08 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2017 11:17 AM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

My cousin's wife bought a 200k BMW a couple weeks ago! I was there and I'll never forget the look on his face!! He didn't say a word where she was talking in front of us to the salesman with her hands next to each other behind her back in an oval shape.

I said to him
"you see her hands, that's your balls, go get your fucking balls back!!"

It was like being at his funeral! He didn't say a word... lost my respect where I always looked up to him cause he was a player in his day!

Does BMW even sell $200,000 cars? I was looking at the 2017 models and could find anything near that.

They make an m760 that's around 160k.

Aloha!

Quote: (07-26-2017 08:08 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2017 11:17 AM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

My cousin's wife bought a 200k BMW a couple weeks ago! I was there and I'll never forget the look on his face!! He didn't say a word where she was talking in front of us to the salesman with her hands next to each other behind her back in an oval shape.

I said to him
"you see her hands, that's your balls, go get your fucking balls back!!"

It was like being at his funeral! He didn't say a word... lost my respect where I always looked up to him cause he was a player in his day!

Does BMW even sell $200,000 cars? I was looking at the 2017 models and could find anything near that.

Import taxes, Rawmeo's 350K Lambo costs 1M in Thailand.

Quote: (07-26-2017 08:48 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (07-26-2017 08:08 PM)lavidaloca Wrote:  

Quote: (07-06-2017 11:17 AM)easternwomenrule Wrote:  

My cousin's wife bought a 200k BMW a couple weeks ago! I was there and I'll never forget the look on his face!! He didn't say a word where she was talking in front of us to the salesman with her hands next to each other behind her back in an oval shape.

I said to him
"you see her hands, that's your balls, go get your fucking balls back!!"

It was like being at his funeral! He didn't say a word... lost my respect where I always looked up to him cause he was a player in his day!

Does BMW even sell $200,000 cars? I was looking at the 2017 models and could find anything near that.

They make an m760 that's around 160k.

Aloha!

BMW similar to Mercedes have a fucked up system where a 100k can cost you 200k if you add all the extra options - extra strong engine will add sometimes another 40k+. It is actually one of the dumbest things you can do, because you won't get that money back ever. That is why you can get those super-powered AMG Mercedes so cheap relative to their initial price. Some 5yo Mercedes AMG that cost the first buyer 150k can be had now for 45k while having barely 30.000 miles. No one is paying for all those extras in full - the discount ratio is brutal in the secondary market.

If you blast 200k+ for a car, you better go for the highest segment of Bentley, Rolls Royce, but I guess some like the "understatement".

Zel, man you're starting to convince me that hitting an out of warranty AMG is a good idea....

It's not a good idea but it's cheap, fast, and whores cannot tell between a 2010 S Class and a 2017 S Class.

I can do most of my own car repairs so labor ain't much of a factor. The ABC suspension coils are like 600-900 a piece tho.

If I buy one I'll go the SJW route and blame you instead of taking responsibility myself. Will this get me illuminati pussy?

< Bitches can't tell the difference between a brand-new Porsche 911 Turbo and a 6 year old Porsche Boxster basic.

And I started researching the AMG Mercedes after I heard a guy who is worth 50 mio. $ (and owns 8 cars including Supercars) that he buys mostly used AMG Mercedes for business use, because he hates wasting money, they are still highly reliable and you get an excellent price/value ratio. Also he drives like a crazy race car driver in Germany.

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It's not a good idea but it's cheap, fast, and whores cannot tell between a 2010 S Class and a 2017 S Class.

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Bitches can't tell the difference between a brand-new Porsche 911 Turbo and a 6 year old Porsche Boxster basic.

So true.
A few examples:

With my first car.
A friend's girlfriend was shocked there was a small cigarette mark somewhere near the backseat (where my friend and her were sitting) in my (in her mind brand new) 7 year old car. She knew I had gotten it a few days before and was saying it was such a pity there was a cigarette mark on my car that was less than a week old, and asking if I was upset about it.

With another car
Female colleague was complaining about her own car (after driving somewhere together), how old it looked (I think she meant interior mainly) and that she was thinking of buying a newer car like mine. I asked her how old her car was, and how old she thought mine was. Turned out she guessed it was 5 years younger (she guessed 2 maybe 3 years old, it was 8) and mine was the same age as hers.

These examples weren't even with premium brands.
If its not a (very) common model and the interior and exterior are in a good shape they have no idea if a car is 6 months or 6 years old.

So I've been watching clips of this season's 90 Day Fiance and I think Anfisa is great. First, she is completely honest about what she wants. Second, I think she has a great sense of humor -- much better than most Russian women. Some of what she says is an obvious exaggeration, and she knows it will play with the audience and Jorge. It's very likely the producers are asking her to play up the drama queen. Finally, she has an amazing body. Wow.

Would Bang, Would not buy $150K ring or marry.

This shit has to be fake, surely this is not real?

The people are real. I even found LikedIn pages of some folk, they have instagram accounts etc. It's partly scripted by the directors, but the gist of their lives is more or less legit.

Russian girl is supposedly stripping now or she has a sugar-daddy.

In for the madness!

From the short clips I saw; the guy seems more dishonest than the woman.

He told her he was rich but he's not. He should have told her what he had and set that bitch on a budget; then been a little more red pill in how he treated her.

You guys still think this show is real? Even if the divorce documents are real and the licenses, you could never get me to buy the notion that they did not set all these idiots up in advance, knowing it would be an unmitigated disaster. Probably paid them off or enough to get them to date or pick each other before the visa paperwork is filed.

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:20 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

You guys still think this show is real? Even if the divorce documents are real and the licenses, you could never get me to buy the notion that they did not set all these idiots up in advance, knowing it would be an unmitigated disaster. Probably paid them off or enough to get them to date or pick each other before the visa paperwork is filed.

I don't buy this. I've done a little research on this show and there have been legitimate couples on here that are still together and have children. Granted, some of these couples are walking time bombs but they're legit. The thing about these shows is that they're HEAVILY EDITED. They film for several months at a time but only get maybe a few hours of screen time per season. So basically with all of that footage, producers can kind of lean the story and depiction of people to go almost wherever it wants.

Bumping the thread because I saw this:






The Russian girl is still together with Jorge. They both lost some weight and appear to be happy.
Well - Jorge still makes some 80.000$ per year and she is now already making likely 30.000$+ over Youtube and selling merch online. Who knows - maybe she wasn't lying and she actually had a very low notch-count when she met him.

I checked up on the couples of the show - most are still together.

It all backs up the 10% divorce rates of Western men with mail-order brides. The worst cases are old fat women fishing for much younger hotter men.

It's a sad reality that the divorce rate for local women is around 60% (they do a few gimmicks to lower those stats, but they are above 60% for most Western countries).

https://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/90-d...oto-anchor

Meanwhile men can hop onto a plane and so long as they don't get someone too far above their market value, then they will be fine. Even the 60+ year old wealthy guy who married the 19yo SEA girl is still married to her.

Most men on the show are Blue PIll Betas (with rare exceptions), but they make it work because they picked women in less extreme climates.

But on the other hand - we should wait 5-15 years for some and see whether they are still together. Still - manosphere mail order stats are backed up once again.

The reverse is true for women doing the same. Most women's hypergamy goes through the roof and especially older women picking a non-Western man face a divorce rate of close to 90%, while the men get a 90% success rate.

That was hard to watch...

The two brown guys are obviously in it for their green cards. The one with the blonde was missing on the last video where all the couples were together. Does anyone know what happened to him...? Hambeast got hungry and ate him or what? THe other guy -I feel sorry for him. How could anyone bang that? She looks twice his age, three times his size and I don't even want to imagine the smell...

Quote: (05-05-2017 11:42 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'm just gonna leave this here:

Russians are masters of makeup and tend age terribly; you have to expect them to drop a point or two when they get naked without makeup. That said, she does have a rocking body in the later videos. Much of it is plastic though.
Her uppity, entitled slut attitude is typical of how sponsored whores act. I see it all the time when betas buy sluts shit and don't even get to bang them; the demands just snowball non-stop until the money runs out. The only reason she hasn't left him is because it would reset her greencard clock, and she couldn't extract any more resources from a guy in whichever Siberian shithole she came from. (competition would be tougher back home, and guys not as able/willing to spend).
That shemale giving doughboy game advice...

Watching him get milked makes me feel not so bad about the occasional thot scamming a drink out of me.

I would put the brazilian girl a full two or more points above all of the whores on those videos; note that she wasn't wearing much, if any, makeup in that video. Her Mormon dude is a double-deck betamax ultimate edition, but deserves some respect - he's the only guy on that show not getting scammed and he ended up with an attractive wife. Player lifestyle isn't for everyone.
But how he made it to his late 20s without getting laid is beyond me... surprised his balls didn't explode 10 years ago.

Quote: (05-03-2017 04:09 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Her story does not add up, she either is not 20 years old or was a pay kitten back in Russia. I have no idea how these young girls get that sort of money to get all that surgery done. She had the whole roster and she may even have botox on her face as well which is strange as she is only 20.

It's completely unregulated in Russia, so the cost is quite low. They can get those duck lips in any beauty salon... don't even need a doctor. And their beta orbiters usually pay for it.

Quote: (05-05-2017 11:13 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

This Aleksandra chick certainly understands the value of her caring husband and the solid middle-class support (father of Josh is a dentist), but this post betrays a bit her chocolate love - the number of Eastern European strippers with black boyfriends is surreal:

She likes this guy:

https://www.instagram.com/jamesthemormon/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BS1WWxYjH3_/...=alex.mimi

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The first time when I was listening James The Mormon's songs, I fail in love with them right away. I loved everything about it. I loved the beat, I loved the energy, but the most important, I loved the lyrics! I felt like I finally found something what I was looking for....For a looooong time. Even though it's rap, @jamesthemormon brought so much light and kindness to his art! No swear words, no "I'm the best and all the chicks have to love me". I felt so inspired by him.

Plenty of people post on Instagram that this Josh is such a poor guy, for being cucked by her. Her daughter is clearly half-black, she does not even show her face ever.

Also her claims that a grand-daughter would be black looking after 2 generations of all-white parents is just bollocks.

Photos of her illegitimate kid have since surfaced. Just to recap, here's her and her cuck husband:
   

and here's her with her kid:
   

She's still claiming it's 100% his. The cuckoldry is strong with this one...

Im pretty sure I saw a cam video of her pre surgery. (Anfisa)

Why would she get pregnant from a black guy when her husband looks like that? It's just not smart. Just cheat with a white guy at Least.

Maybe she is claiming to have black ancestors like that white South African couple