Quote: (12-19-2015 06:08 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Nice approach LA Savage let us know how it ends.

I would say from past experience though, I have done a big hug at the end of a good day game approach and usually it the girl will flake later. I am guessing because I think the girl in the moment may be into - but thinks later about it as being too sweet, overly excited, and over the top. I have more success always putting a more aloof behavior until I think I can get more sexual.

That is just me and my experience though so I no longer go for a hug, it is make out (the very rare time that would happen on a day approach for me) or a slight nod and a good bye.

I hear what your saying bro but I'm in Los Angeles. Aloof game doesn't work down here until you have her hooked already. This is literally flake capital of the world so I make my presence known immediately and strike while the iron is hot.

I get physical with girls very fast as I run direct game a majority of the time.
I do this to screen out girls who waste time. The more physical I get with a girl, the better my odds increase on something happening with her.

I use to a record of kissing girls the first time I meet them. I usually do the same bullshit where I give them a high five, then tell them I actually wanted a hug. Then they give me some bullshit church hug and I call them out on it and tell them I am going to give them a real hug. I then proceed to hug them while lifting them off the ground to where their feet are hanging in the air. They usually say some shit like OMG aren't I heavy, or OMG you're so strong. This is where you bring them back down closer to you and work your game by either playfully touching them some more and just going for the make out, or you just tell them you two should hangout some time and grab her number. I've done this over 1,000 times already and basically find it easier for me to do than indirect approaches where I may act aloof. I like to strike when the iron is hot.

I'm on winter break from school now so I have more time to upload videos of me doing this.
A couple of forum members on here have gamed with me out in LA and seen me do it live, and also saw on my phone my very extensive photo album of all the cute girls I met and got the opportunity to game which nicely represents why they call me LA Savage.

I'm trying to help more forum members out with direct game which is why I am actively trying to organize as many forum members as possible who live in or near LA to come out and game together.

There is so much people learn from the approach logs in this thread and I wanted to give a big shout out to the regular posters in here for being the most active and motivating to fellow members.

I'm on a mission to help others with approach anxiety as well. FUCK all those pick up artists trying to scam people out of there money with bullshit methods.

If we have an active support group that actually meets up in real life and do approaches together than I feel that will help people's game improve tremendously vs just reading about them.

I see you doing your part to help Travesty which is why I also want to do my part to help as well.

Pulling for ya Gio. Let us know how it goes. I've found asian chicks on the east coast to be some of the toughest to day game. I have homies out west who says its a different playing field.

Quote: (12-19-2015 05:51 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-17-2015 01:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

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me: thanks for communicating that. I rspect u and ur body 100%.. maybe u should consider drinking a little bit to loosen up. Like i already said -- nothing u dont want and everything u do want. I dont expect u to lose ur virginity this week but i want u to know im happy to massage you, caress you, and maybe give you oral or something if u wanted that.

her: that sounds amazing!

Got a date with this asian 18yo freshman tonight!

The academic semester is over -- but the "sexual semester" isn't over until they get on that airplane to go back to their parents house!

I'm telling you, I always get some action right after Final Exams!

Echoing both LA Savage & Travesty - as I was discussing back in the Approach Thread, we see the duality of the spectrum. The detached, indirect aloofness contrasted with diving right in, laying out all the cards, and ramping up the escalation. Going back through my posts, one can see that I've tried both extremes, but more often of the lower-energy style. Both of these men make strong cases, so it illustrates the value of the differing styles of Game. As I said, it's a spectrum, rarely falling squarely at either end. It strikes me though, that an individual will ultimately identify near one end or the other. I need to work toward sampling the spread of flavors as far as how to approach, and most importantly, to just fuckin' do it. Add more tools to the box.

Quote: (12-20-2015 04:27 PM)Mess O. Wrote:  

Echoing both LA Savage & Travesty - as I was discussing back in the Approach Thread, we see the duality of the spectrum. The detached, indirect aloofness contrasted with diving right in, laying out all the cards, and ramping up the escalation. Going back through my posts, one can see that I've tried both extremes, but more often of the lower-energy style. Both of these men make strong cases, so it illustrates the value of the differing styles of Game. As I said, it's a spectrum, rarely falling squarely at either end. It strikes me though, that an individual will ultimately identify near one end or the other. I need to work toward sampling the spread of flavors as far as how to approach, and most importantly, to just fuckin' do it. Add more tools to the box.

Surely a lot of it also has to do with the area/state/country you're gaming in as girls from different cultures will respond differently to the various methods.

That's a great point. My latest in the Approach Thread could display that.

LA Savage do you have that video posted? I'm definitely curious as I can't for the life of me play that scene out in my head.

I may have to hit you guys up when I'm in LA on business

Frats seem to be the way to go, considering the organised "mixers" with sororities. Basically you're shooting fish in a barrel.

Confidence, confidence, and once more confidence beats up direct or indirect and any other technical consideration. Was at the university library yesterday, opposite me there were three chicks sitting who were spending more time chatting than working. Asked them what they laughed about and a conversation ensued. Too bad I wasn't interested in any of them but a good practice nonetheless. Almost (never?) no guys casting glances at the girls in the library or even library cafe will approach these girls (especially the hot ones) whom he didn't get to know through classes or some activities.

If you do it confidently, hold a good conversation and dress unlike most guys (hoody, washed out jeans, etc.), she will at least let you make a pitch. The key is to do it under a radar so you will not become 'that guy' in there. The bigger the library, the better.

Quote: (12-17-2015 01:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

She is 18, thin, and cute. I texted her around 10pm:

me: hey michelle hows it going?

her: its good how are you

me: really good thanks. Done with finals?

her: yeah!!

me: awesome! how are you celebrating

her: dinner with friends

me: fun. I know you're a smart girl and you probably think that I'm just trying to sleep with you

her: well.. yeah, thats what it seemed like the other night you're so persistent with a full body massage

me: I'm not denying it, I do want that. But, I also want you to know that I'm actually a really nice guy and im totally normal and responsible etc. Im attracted to you physically and while I dont know you that well I can tell that you are very smart and sweet. I wanted to give you an opportunity to have some fun in a safe space with no strings attached and without worry. It might sound crazy but its also very sexy and I hope you consider it.

her: so like friends with benefits is what you're asking?

me: ya i guess that term would work here

her: what exactly do u mean by have fun? I feel like u are asking for something specific lol

me: nothing specific but like i said the other night.. nothing u dont want and everything you do want. I don't have any expectations, whatever happens is okay

her: well, i'll think about it, friends with benefits is not really my style but i will think about it

me: u deserve some fun, u deserve to be spoiled

her: i mean it all sounds really nice but its a little overwhelming. We're so much different in age.

me: The age difference is not a big deal. You are mature.

her: The age difference makes me a little nervous

me: I want you to be totally comfortable.. Its totally up to you. If you're not interested, no worries sweetie

her: In my head it does sound hot but im not sure if it would really be that way in person

me: yes of course we can never guarantee chemistry in person. If we dont spark than nothng will happen. Its really low risk but high reward for you

her: im shy in person and i dont want you to get your hopes up, I'm a virgin so i dont want you to be disappointed if i dont want to have sex

me: thanks for communicating that. I rspect u and ur body 100%.. maybe u should consider drinking a little bit to loosen up. Like i already said -- nothing u dont want and everything u do want. I dont expect u to lose ur virginity this week but i want u to know im happy to massage you, caress you, and maybe give you oral or something if u wanted that.

her: that sounds amazing!

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Got a date with this asian 18yo freshman tonight!

So, Saturday night, she said she was nervous, I knew she was overthinking and unsure.. Remember, this an an 18 year old virgin! She knows I am much older than her..

I continued to build comfort over text:

her: you're going to hate me

me: why would i hate u?

her: this all sounds so nice, almost like a fantasy but it makes me nervous and scared, I feel like I keep going back and forth with you and that's probably really annoying. So I think maybe this isn't a good idea. I don't want to be flaky with you. You're probably way to mature to be dealing with me. I dont want you to hate me

me: Its totally ok sweetie, i wanted it to be like a fantasy for you. As u get older u will realize that we do have the power to make our fantasies a reality, we just have to have the courage and imagination to try. I know it was a little over whelming for u.. I want u to be comfortable.. I really wanted to please u tonight but maybe some other time..

her: Ugh ur so sweet! it makes me mad!

me: why does it make u mad?

her: cause i feel terrible

me: ya ur fear is irrational and illogical, there is no data to support it. You have my phone number, my home address + Uber records, etc. I would have to be suicidal to harm u because I would literally be throwing my life away! I like my life!

her: Do u usually go for girls as young as me?

me: not really, Im actually very picky and I don't date that much lol.. I havent tried to date an asian girl since high school.. I dont know. sometimes, the heart just wants what it wants..

her: I cant come over tonight, i want to but i shouldn't. If i have to think about it this hard i feel like i shouldnt do it. The massage and oral sound amazing but i think that maybe im just sexually frustrated and i will regret it later. Maybe im not ready for this. The age difference makes me apprehensive. im sorry

me: dont over think it. its okay to express ur sexuality sometimes, im a nice guy, i will take good care of you

her: i already over thought it and i can express my sexual needs on my own

me: lol ok.. when u do please yourself, think about me making out with your p*ssy. I want u to put ur hand on top of my head and pull my tongue deeper inside of you

her: shhhh dont do that. You'll make me too horny and it will cloud my judgement.

me: Ive already thought about what we would do.. First, I would deep tissue massage the bottoms of your feet until I felt your while body relax, then i would run your ankles, calves, and thighs, Then, your hips, butt, and back. When you are ready, take your panties off and that will be my signal to start gently licking and sucking on your pussy.. however u want and for as long as u want.

her: I take my panties off???

me: ya the decision is yours. Unless u want me to pull them off with my teeth

her: ya that sounds hotter

me: i want to make u cum all over my tongue

her: well, arent u going to want to be pleased also?

me: u can please me when u are ready to. But the first time is about you

her: it would be rude of me to not please you

me: what would u do to me to please me?

her: well, im good at giving oral or at least ive been told that. I'll rub my boobs against your cock and if ur an ass kind of guy, i can grind on ur cock in reverse cowgirl

me: all of the above...... do u like to be titty fucked?

her: i like my boobs sucked on. as far a titty fucking, my boobs aren't that big so it might be hard but ill try my best

me: (I SENT HER A SHIRTLESS SELFIE)

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her: thats a really nice pic

me: U like?

her: yeah i didnt realize u were so muscular!

me: do u have any pics u can send me?

her: (SHE SENT ME A BIKINI PIC) (I won't post it but it was hot!)

me: i like ur body

her: do u work monday

me: no im off monday

her: well i check out of the dorms at 5 but my plane doesnt leave til 9

me: ill pick u up and take u to the airport

her: we cant be late!

me: dont worry i live 5 mins from the airport

her: okay

*

So, thats the plan. I'm supposed to pick her up in about 5 hours, take her to my place, massage her, eat her pussy, maybe she will suck me, etc. And, then, I will take her to the airport to fly home for the holidays!

Again, this is an 18yo virgin! If things go well today, maybe there is a decent that chance that she will give me her virginity!!

I've already learned so much from this experience. I'll report back tonight.

Quote: (12-21-2015 03:22 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

me: Its totally ok sweetie, i wanted it to be like a fantasy for you. As u get older u will realize that we do have the power to make our fantasies a reality, we just have to have the courage and imagination to try. I know it was a little over whelming for u.. I want u to be comfortable.. I really wanted to please u tonight but maybe some other time..

...


her: Do u usually go for girls as young as me?

me: not really, Im actually very picky and I don't date that much lol.. I havent tried to date an asian girl since high school.. I dont know. sometimes, the heart just wants what it wants..

...

me: dont over think it. its okay to express ur sexuality sometimes, ... i will take good care of you

...


me: lol ok.. when u do please yourself, think about me making out with your p*ssy. I want u to put ur hand on top of my head and pull my tongue deeper inside of you


her: yeah i didnt realize u were so muscular!

The first few texts newbies especially should study. Getting her in the right mood in a soft yet direct way.

As for the last point, looking fit Gio!

This is another subtle point though that unless you are the beach with your shirt off or coming from the gym in a tank top, girls are pretty retarded as knowing how fit guys are. This is another point on why it is good to be big. Girls recognize big immediately.

Being able to send a fit picture like that is a great weapon either way.

Gio. This is different than what I'm use too on the forum and without a doubt you make it work. Glad to see some variety here in what people consider confident. What you do probably won't work for me or for others, but these texts are definitely something to learn from. Keep them coming and be sure to report back.

On another note how was everyone's fall?

Sadly I've only had one new plate(fairly short term affair) this hunting season. Death of a friend and over attentiveness by the current one have kept me pretty complacent. Any tips to get out of the slump and get into the mentality again? It really feels I've hit another rut in terms of game.

Quote: (12-21-2015 05:08 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

Gio. This is different than what I'm use too on the forum and without a doubt you make it work. Glad to see some variety here in what people consider confident. What you do probably won't work for me or for others, but these texts are definitely something to learn from. Keep them coming and be sure to report back.

On another note how was everyone's fall?

Sadly I've only had one new plate(fairly short term affair) this hunting season. Death of a friend and over attentiveness by the current one have kept me pretty complacent. Any tips to get out of the slump and get into the mentality again? It really feels I've hit another rut in terms of game.

Now we can make a thread Getting Freshmen girls after the FALL. Guess, they will be a bit more apprehensive by now...

Gio's physique pic could work as the cover for his upcoming book: Campus Game Mastery for the Mature Gentleman.

Oh man, I gotta go to the gym more often.

Gio, I hope all goes well with that girl.

Waiting for Gio's latest update:

I just dropped her off at the airport.

I'll post the details when I can.

She was very sexual.

I'm a little mind-blown right now.

Her body was like a dream come true!

I learned so much from this experience. This is one of the sweetest results that I've ever had!

G, you're living every guy's dream. Pursuing young, hot women, with a go-getter's attitude. I've passed up a lot of women I could've approached because I get into my head a bit too much. This line stuck out to me:

"As u get older u will realize that we do have the power to make our fantasies a reality, we just have to have the courage and imagination to try".

You can have the imagination to be great but without courage, you get nowhere. We all have that power to make our dreams a reality, but its setting fear aside and moving forward that's the biggest testament in being successful.

Quote: (12-22-2015 03:14 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  

This line stuck out to me:

"As u get older u will realize that we do have the power to make our fantasies a reality, we just have to have the courage and imagination to try".

Yeah, I was thinking about that line too.. I think that it probably did have an effect on her. I sort of made fun of her youth and implied that she was being stupid and passing up on a rare opportunity. Perfect!

I was able to come up with that line because I was being raw and honest. My mentality was basically that I didn't care if I lost her and I was just going to be direct with her.

For me, this was all about language and communication. I got this girl through text. I was able to logically guide her to sex.

Rocco Siffredi, the famous Italian porn star once said that smart girls are easier to bed than dumb girls, because you can guide them logically. Now, I see what he meant.

Edit: I texted her the shirtless selfie and I also texted her a pic of my apartment; I think those texts were important.

Outstanding Gio, that's what I love about you, sheer determination and not giving up.



Honestly I got a little chubby read post # 459, I learned something new reading your posts and Looking forward to reading what more you learned from this experience.

Awesome breakdown Gio, definately liked alot of those lines. . . not what I would usually say but seeing it in context will sure help improve my game.

Quote: (12-22-2015 03:27 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-22-2015 03:14 AM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  

This line stuck out to me:

"As u get older u will realize that we do have the power to make our fantasies a reality, we just have to have the courage and imagination to try".

Yeah, I was thinking about that line too.. I think that it probably did have an effect on her. I sort of made fun of her youth and implied that she was being stupid and passing up on a rare opportunity. Perfect!

I was able to come up with that line because I was being raw and honest. My mentality was basically that I didn't care if I lost her and I was just going to be direct with her.

For me, this was all about language and communication. I got this girl through text. I was able to logically guide her to sex.

Rocco Siffredi, the famous Italian porn star once said that smart girls are easier to bed than dumb girls, because you can guide them logically. Now, I see what he meant.

Edit: I texted her the shirtless selfie and I also texted her a pic of my apartment; I think those texts were important.

Gio, I would say this goes against the general consensus on RVF, which is, to my understanding, that you get laid by appealing to the girl's feelings, not her intellect. However, in your texts, you appealed to both logic and feelings, and it worked perfectly well.

If would be great if you could share more thoughts about this approach and how to do it right.

This is amazing Gio. I think on RVF newbies try hard to turn off logic just because we have a general consensus that "women are not logical. " Your posts prove that they are human beings and a little bit of logic can in fact go a long way.

This past Monday, we made plans for 5pm.

Monday came and I was a little nervous.. I wasn't sure when I should text her.. I made contact at about 12:30 in the afternoon:


me: hey hows work going? I'm planning on being there at 5pm?

her: going well. okay that's perfect

me: in the same place where we met last time?


She didn't respond for about 45 minutes!

I know she was nervous and scared and thinking of canceling on me!

I had to say something to calm her fear..


me: I have butterflies in my stomach but im excited to see you


She responded!


her: go to the parking lot behind the dorms


Whew! That was close! 2 hours before we were supposed to meet, I know she was thinking about canceling!

That "butteflies" line saved me! I let her know that I was nervous also but being nervous was normal and there was no reason to panic!

One hour before I was supposed to pick her up, I checked in again:


me: want anything from the store?

her: no i think im okay

me: still on schedule for 5pm ?

her: yes

me: k see u at 5

her: k


At 5pm, I pulled my truck into the dorm parking lot and texted her:


me: black truck in spot #42

her: im coming down now


2 minutes later, she came out of the elevator looking even better than I remember! Tight, yoga pants with a fat, little, bubble butt! Exactly what I wanted!


me: hey! over here!

her: hi

me: im soooo nervous!


I grabbed her and gave her a big hug.


her: me too!


The hug helped to relieve some tension.

Admitting that I was nervous helped her to normalize her nervousness, I think.

I helped her load her luggage into my truck and we were off to my house; conversation was good.

She came in, I gave her the tour, I poured two glasses of wine.

I had already texted her a few pics of my apartment so she knew what to expect:

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We drank and we made a Beyonce playlist because she said she liked Beyonce.






I lit the candles, we both went pee 2 or 3 times. I asked her if she was ready for her massage..

She laid on that bed in the picture and I began rubbing her feet with coconut oil. Soon, I was rubbing my head into her pussy and she was moaning.. I took off her yoga pants and panties and began gnawing and sucking on her ass and hips..

Her body was a teenage dream! Not an ounce of fat on her; tiny little waist with a round butt and a beautiful, flat, teenage stomach!

Spectacular is an understatement!

*

I started to lick her pussy.

I put on my playlist:






I went crazy! I ate her pussy and licked her beautiful ass!

She came like 3 times.

She wanted me to suck her tits and titty fuck her.

She sucked me, sucked my balls, and licked my ass.

I came all over her chest.

We didn't fuck, she said she wants to remain a virgin.

I don't care, I was more than satisfied.

She fell asleep, I woke her up an hour later and took her to the airport.

I dropped her off, soon she texted me:


her: thank you so much!

me: ur welcome, hope u had fun

her: I had a lot of fun, it was better than i expected

me: do u wanna see me again soon?

her: yes

me: what was ur favorite part?

her: my favorite part was calling u "daddy"

me: did u like getting spanked?

her: it hurt a little but i like it mostly


Soon, she was off to fly home to her parents house.

At 1am, she texted me:


her: I landed!

me: you made it home?

her: yes

me: k good nite sweetie

her: good nite

me: say "good night daddy"

her: good night daddy


Wow! What a great experience that was! I am still high from the excitement of it!

Soon, I will address all questions/concerns + clarify a few details about my text logs + explain all that I learned from this experience:

Gio if I knew how to post a Denzel Washington my ni$$a meme I would post it after reading that haha.

Quote: (12-23-2015 03:43 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Wow! What a great experience that was! I am still high from the excitement of it!

Gio, congrats! Your persistence has paid off and you won your prize.