The logic fail is the term, "panacea." There is NO panacea, whether lifting or anything else....its all part of a whole.
Лучше поздно, чем никогда
...life begins at "70% Warning Level."....
Quote: (11-05-2015 02:56 PM)Kamikaze Wrote:
Very motivating thread. I'm 5'10 at 175 lbs and I'm regularly at juuuust visible abs without flexing. One week of running and a few squats and ab ripper x, and I'm conceivably at 'model' physique, lookin like a less-white version of this dude:
and 4 inches shorter. Most girls I've been with say I have the best body they've ever had. One said it looked like I was photoshopped. It helps to be in a town full of manginas that would rather run marathons than barbell squat.
I've only had one experience at a club where a girl was on me purely because of body. She 'discovered it' by putting her hand under my shirt and feeling up. This is pre-RVF, I had no game, logistics were dog shit, etc etc, so I didn't close. That shit about having the right mentality and having your game-knife nice and sharp is true as hell.
But what matters is I got a little taste, and I believe that shit about hitting a certain threshold. Once you hit 200+ lbs with a serious physique, the game has to change.
My question is, given my current state of being in relatively good shape, is it realistic to get to 200+ lbs naturally? For a long time I've just wanted to get to 190 at least and it's just hard as fuck. If it helps any, I'm naturally a leaner dude. If I were a boxer, I'd proooobably be fighting at 160, getting knocked the fuck out by GGG (who I also have a similar build to).
Can a homeless-mans version of GGG, who's also 5'10, get to 200+ naturally?
Quote: (11-05-2015 05:39 PM)ballsyamog Wrote:
Anonymous Bosch, how long did it take you to get to that physique.... Right now I'm 5'8 and south side of 180 lbs and 15% body fat, I have pretty big arms and a big chest, still working on the abs though.... The attention I get when I'm at the club is insane and I'm staying in Toronto right now.. Last week during Halloween I went to a club and some of the girls would go out of their ways to touch my arms , back and chest. Approaching girls was very easy. I would just go caveman on the girls on the dance floor.... Since I started making serious gains in the gym , I have been getting significant attention from women
Quote: (11-05-2015 10:08 PM)Fortis Wrote:
I know a dude who is 250 pounds at %5 body fat, looks like Ryan gosling, is 6'6 and hopeless with women. This therefore shows that muscle is not helpful at all for seduction. Your well fought time in the gym was totally useless. Sorry AB and Linux.
Quote: (11-06-2015 09:58 AM)johnfortunebg Wrote:
I was a scrawny kid that turned into a skinny fat teen/young adult.
I'm 182 cm.
When I started gaming, I was ~68 kilograms at ~17% bodyfat -skinny fat to the bone.
1.5 years ago, I started lifting. I go to the gym primarily because it feels good both during and after the workout. It's like I have energized myself for the whole day.
Because this is my primary motivation, I have not pushed myself very much and have not optimized my training and eating neither for hypertrophy nor for strength gains. I rather train for enjoyment.
Thus, despite the fact I go to the gym 5/6 times per week, I am currently 74kg @ ~14% bodyfat - not huge by any measure. In fact, when fully clothed I still look skinny.
This does not change the fact that the number of IOIs I am receiving when going out has jumped maybe by 200-300%. I also find that fewer women when I approach them dismiss me out of hand.
My subjective estimation is that I am able to get the same amount and quality of women now (in comparison with 2 years before) with maybe 30-40% less effort. And that is in a country in which one-night stand culture practically does not exist (meaning that the 'body' effect is more minimized by other factors than in the States/UK/wherever).
If my petty gains over an 18-month period of suboptimal training are enough for this, then certainly 2-3 years of concentrated efforts can lift you up quite more.
Quote: (11-05-2015 01:31 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:
By forty, you become a Rock Star to women your own age.
Quote: (11-04-2015 04:19 AM)RichieP Wrote:
Anonymous Bosch: I've seen dudes as big and bigger than you with absolutely no game, standing around getting nothing. Parked up by the bar looking frustrated/confused that their godlike physiques arent magnetically sucking the girls towards them.
Yeah, I know guys like this, and everyone points that out as evidence size doesn't attract. However, since I'm part of their lives rather than just observing them in bars, I notice how women pay more attention to them in everyday life, and how often they get randomly-opened by women affecting girlish behaviour, even if they're bad at following up on it.
Quote: (11-06-2015 11:48 AM)BassPlayaYo Wrote:
Quote: (11-05-2015 10:08 PM)Fortis Wrote:
I know a dude who is 250 pounds at %5 body fat, looks like Ryan gosling, is 6'6 and hopeless with women. This therefore shows that muscle is not helpful at all for seduction. Your well fought time in the gym was totally useless. Sorry AB and Linux.
He may be hopeless with women, but that doesn't mean women aren't checking him out. If he had game he'd be killing.
Quote: (11-07-2015 08:13 AM)Kieran Wrote:
One point I forgot to make is that there is quite a bit of variety in what women respond to. For example the classic good looks and muscular athlete type will always be popular with women, but then the skinny effeminate pretty boy types are never short of female attention either (certainly from younger women). There's not really a one size fits all rule, just like for men, some of us like big tits and arses, while others like them smaller (I like a variety myself). I'm not sure the pretty boy types generate the same kind of sexual attraction that muscular more masculine types, but they're not short of pussy anyway.
Quote: (11-07-2015 01:41 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:
Handsome face > Height > Muscular build > Well dressed/style
Quote: (11-05-2015 05:42 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:
The logic fail is the term, "panacea." There is NO panacea, whether lifting or anything else....its all part of a whole.