4-year-old Auschwitz bookkeeper gets a 4 year prison sentence
07-15-2015, 05:38 PM
Quote: (07-15-2015 12:32 PM)extracube Wrote:
Is it just me or are a lot od RVF forum members getting all social justicy?
Whilst I answered your question for you...just a quick heads up: It isn't good practice here to start calling out other more established members when you have such a low post/rep count yourself.
That said, I am quite surprised at guys saying this old man deserves this jailing. Especially without researching his history further. Yes, he was in the SS willingly, but as I said - is that really surprising? It was the elite organisation in the Nazi regime, and if you'd been told since school that it was the way to be a top member of society (believing that there truly would be a 1000 year Reich), it isn't surprising that many people strived to join.
He was featured in the acclaimed Laurence Rees documentary series 'Nazis: A Warning From History' (highly recommended by the way to those interested in this period) and an article about the programme said the following:
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He had always refused to talk about Auschwitz even to his own family but now he wanted to give witness against the Holocaust deniers, such as friends at his local philately club, who had insisted the camps were all a lie. That was why he said on film: "I would like you to believe me. I saw the gas chambers. I saw the crematoria. I saw the open fires. I was on the ramp when the selections took place. I would like you to believe that these atrocities happened, because I was there."
There's a few members on here, even very highly repped ones, who think the Holocaust was somewhat fabricated by others (Israel/USA etc), I cannot understand how you can think that - when you have people who were there who tell you they saw it and took part in it, however mildly.
It's also interesting how the people who hate Jews the most (hardcore Muslims) also are most likely to dismiss the Holocaust as truth. It's almost like they want to cling on to their hatred of Jews without acknowledging that something terrible happened to them, because it's only normal to feel sympathy for Holocaust survivors - and I guess that creates a kind of cognitive dissonance.
For all my talk about the bad stuff of multiculturalism and so on, I wouldn't ever wish for what happened in those camps on anyone. Ever.*
Truly blood curdling some of the first-hand accounts. I can't imagine how awful it would be to have those doors close on the 'shower rooms', the lights to go out and then for you to finally realise what's about to happen to you. Imagine being a kid and how truly nightmarish that would be like? Ever seen Boy In The Striped Pajamas...that end scene
* The only time I'd OK it would be with guys like ISIS. That's the only time I'd probably take some sick satisfaction in seeing a guy like Amon Goeth in action (that's Ralph Fiennes, playing him, from Schindler's List below). I love my German friends, but bloody hell if there's a more rule-bound peoples - please point them out! It honestly doesn't surprise me that it was that country that did killing so efficiently.
If Germany ever gets over it's guilt, allah help radical Islam. That said, Shia Islam seems a lot better than Wahhabi Sunni Islam...if Shia's were the dominant sect in the Middle East you'd be seeing a very different place. All the Shia's I've met in my life have been a lot more moderate - even if they don't drink alcohol, they'll still come to the pub and hang out etc. The sooner Saudi runs out of oil the better. Assad and Putin should team up and help Iran to wipe out the Wahhabis/Salafis (that includes ISIS).