[Banna]

(04-24-2018 09:25 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 06:53 PM)hedonist Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 11:59 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

As an example of whining hate on with no solutions offered, we had a guy called "Australia Sucks" pissing on Medellin women saying they were ugly.

Believe it or not there is a bunch of weirdos there that don't like anything but the typical white Aussie beach chick....Why they would even leave the country to a place like Medellin boggles the mind though...

If by "there" you mean Australia, I think that poster in question either failed with basic white Aussie beach chicks, or just has contempt for them, or both.

(04-23-2018 12:01 PM)Banna Wrote:  

I think a Anglo guy can come to Toronto and have fun.

(04-23-2018 04:32 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(04-23-2018 08:38 AM)ausazn Wrote:  

First thread here.

After much lurking I've noticed that many Canadians seem to hate on Toronto and Vancouver, stating that the city sucks, the average girl is one that is a 6 behaving like a 9, pretentious, materialistic and shallow etc. Kinda reminds me of Australian girls which is what I have also gathered from this forum and my own experiences.

However when I was in Toronto I seemed to have an amazing time, all the girls I met seemed to be super friendly (even guys actually), talkative and responsive. I even managed to bang one girl a few times in the couple weeks I was there.

Is there more of an appreciation for Australians and foreigners from other Western countries in Canada or even North America as a whole? I'm curious to whether or not North Americans would get the same treatment here from Australian girls. Every one I've met here is always more interesting to talk to but I wonder what it would be like from a female perspective.

Anyone have any experiences as an Aussie in North America or a Canadian/American in Aus?

Average to good looking white guys don't have as much of issue... if got the accent then you got a opportunity to do well.

N.B. I'm not white, neither is the OP.

Having said that, I've had a fair enough of receptiveness from Canadian birds of all races where I am currently (SEA), and ran into loads of them while backpacking Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam not too long ago.

Maybe Asian dudes with Australian/NZ/British/European accents are that much of a novelty in Canada that they particularly do well there?

I realised that I'd have zero exotic factor in Vancouver, it'd be a nice place to check out but I don't intend to live there and contribute to the insane gentrification.

Having ditched the Anglosphere lately, it might seem rather odd to set my sights on one of the apexes of Anglosphere locations that draws the manosphere's ire, but I'd see this as refreshing my game by jumping back into the deep end.

I'd guess then you're a Oriental or Indian descent Aussie.

I can't say how you'd do as a Orienal guy in Toronto based what I see here. I've never seen a Oriental guy except Filipino with a non Asian woman. I can't decipher if that's because other races of women aren't feeling them or if it's because they are just content with their own women. I personally think it's the latter and Oriental guys here don't really cold open girls of any race. I think a Oriental PUA would surprise a lot of these girls and make them inquisitive.

Personally for me the "tall athletic fit" guy game doesn't overraw them off the bat like it has with other races of girls that were happy to get plowed without much thought. They wanna size up my career, education, vehicle....the pad and neighbourhood I live in before we even have a date. Education and life success is really stressed hard from a young age in a lot of Oriental countries so I ain't even mad.

I'm sure a Oriental guy won't have this issue. With me they can see right through me lol.

If you're Indian.

I've mentioned before about the mob based behavior of Indian guys I notice when out....but at the same time conversating with white girls ive talked to and observing the white women they open even in a polite respectful manner there's definitely some racial biasedness against them unfortunately. These women will give off a "Ewwww " kinda vibe. Roosh has been plagued by some Indian race trolls complaining about about being 'accepted' by white women.

I like Hedonist say fuck em and just find what makes you happy first. It isn't worth the effort to try and appease their BS. And I'm telling you....most of those broads are more passionate/affectionate about their pets than a man!!!

Some of these superficial broads will next me on the basis of saying I live in Brampton....which is a heavily populated Indian based neighborhood. It turns their stomachs for some reason. My friend lives in Brampton and tells these broads he lives in Vaughan lol. Shit....it's not like Brampton is a crime plagued dump like the Jamestown Rexdale area.

Indians are hard working mofos.

[DigitalNomad]

I’ve said my piece in enough threads on this issue... Toronto is not a hard city to get laid if you have a natural style game and you make moves before 12:30am. If you depend on the old PUA type stuff you will have trouble. Regardless, it’s a cool city to visit anyway, especially in the summer.

[casa-nostra]

(04-23-2018 08:38 AM)ausazn Wrote:  

First thread here.

After much lurking I've noticed that many Canadians seem to hate on Toronto and Vancouver, stating that the city sucks, the average girl is one that is a 6 behaving like a 9, pretentious, materialistic and shallow etc. Kinda reminds me of Australian girls which is what I have also gathered from this forum and my own experiences.

However when I was in Toronto I seemed to have an amazing time, all the girls I met seemed to be super friendly (even guys actually), talkative and responsive. I even managed to bang one girl a few times in the couple weeks I was there.

Is there more of an appreciation for Australians and foreigners from other Western countries in Canada or even North America as a whole? I'm curious to whether or not North Americans would get the same treatment here from Australian girls. Every one I've met here is always more interesting to talk to but I wonder what it would be like from a female perspective.

Anyone have any experiences as an Aussie in North America or a Canadian/American in Aus?

I dont think it is about Australian or Anything else

I am not Australian or North American , I moved to Toronto one month ago and had great time ( yesterday was my third bang , i was close to 6-7 bangs , i cant count the make outs)

I am not saying TORONTO is an easy city , but not as bad as many pretend here . I was having really hard time in Montreal, i can still close in Montreal, more than the majority, but it really requires way more efforts for less rewards , i found Montreal guys to be so thirsty fearless and so aggressive. , and moving here feels like i moved from a hard to an easy level ( this is only my case , i know that many prefer Montreal )

What i hate about Toronto , is how expensive is , i am paying double rent than Montreal , and car insurance moved from 30 to 330 (yes 300 more monthly), salary just raised about 10% .
But had no complain about girls , i am having good time , even though french is my first language.


A freind i know who moved from Montreal to Vancouver , he said that Vancouver is even better than TORONTO for girls , so of course way better than Montreal. But again , For saving money , Montreal is the best choice ( cost of living is so low and salary are almost the same , 10 % lower maybe)

[TooFineAPoint]

(04-23-2018 08:38 AM)ausazn Wrote:  

First thread here.

After much lurking I've noticed that many Canadians seem to hate on Toronto and Vancouver, stating that the city sucks, the average girl is one that is a 6 behaving like a 9, pretentious, materialistic and shallow etc. Kinda reminds me of Australian girls which is what I have also gathered from this forum and my own experiences.

However when I was in Toronto I seemed to have an amazing time, all the girls I met seemed to be super friendly (even guys actually), talkative and responsive. I even managed to bang one girl a few times in the couple weeks I was there.

Is there more of an appreciation for Australians and foreigners from other Western countries in Canada or even North America as a whole? I'm curious to whether or not North Americans would get the same treatment here from Australian girls. Every one I've met here is always more interesting to talk to but I wonder what it would be like from a female perspective.

Anyone have any experiences as an Aussie in North America or a Canadian/American in Aus?

Toronto is far from my favorite place, but there are still a lot of hot women and interesting things to do there. The very real negatives that the board points out often don't tell the full story of the city, so outsiders think it is way worse than it actually is.

Plus, Canadian girls really like Aussie accents, so I could see that being a plus for you.

[SLSlayer]

In Toronto, it’s a lot easier for an immigrant or a guy of a minority group to "move up". I know a lot of immigrants who came here somewhat poor but managed to turn it around and get into lucrative professions. Stories of immigrant families coming over being working class but their kid goes on to become a doctor - I've known quite a few examples of this.

When I was in Europe, I noticed how a lot of the immigrants and minorities didn't have this opportunity for upward mobility. Most who came to their respective countries being poor usually remained poor for generations and lived in ethnic ghettos. While some success stories existed, for the most part they were much more rare than in Toronto.

Here is what I found interesting though. In Europe, I saw a lot more couples involving white women with men of minority groups than I did in Toronto. I noticed how European women were generally more receptive to associating with, dating and sleeping with non-white guys. I met Asian, Indian, African and Latin American international students in France who had little to no trouble getting laid or dating the local girls. The kinds of girls these guys were getting in Europe, they’d never have a shot at with the local girls Toronto.

What was interesting is that despite the racism that exists in the economic realm in Europe, none of the European guys (or European society in general) seemed to care that much that an Asian, Indian, Black, or Arab guy was dating a white girl.

Now in Toronto, it’s the complete opposite. Dating a good looking white girl while not being white yourself is a much much bigger deal in Toronto than it is in Europe even though minorities have an easier time moving up economically.

Europeans don’t grant you the same opportunities for economic success in their countries, but they are not nearly as hostile if you decide to go for white women in their country. Most just don't care that much.

[the Thing]

(04-23-2018 11:59 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

Most of the hate on threads are written by guys whose hate is actually self directed. It wouldn't matter which city they were in. (Sometimes an accurate description of a city can be found however with its +/-.)

As an example of whining hate on with no solutions offered, we had a guy called "Australia Sucks" pissing on Medellin women saying they were ugly.

As you may guess the bad attitude rides along with them in coach, and doesn't even chip in for the fare.

Welcome.

Pretty much this.

Whenever I see a city hate thread I think of it as a guide to the person who wrote it, rather than the city.

I mean, if you're moving halfway across the world you really gotta leave the sour and bitter at home. Be respectful but firm, learn not to take yourself too seriously and you'll have a great time. If your favorite pastime is projecting your own insecurities on others experiences and you expect to be showered with pussy the moment you get off the plane, you'll be better off in SEA.

Just my $0.02 after 2 months of living here. Objectively speaking, Vancouver is a very Reddit city. As in go to r/Vancouver to have an idea of people that you'll be dealing with on a daily basis. However if you're well put together personality-wise (aka you're not a needy bitch) there's smash to be done, as is the case with pretty much every city in the world.

Also it's pretty small (I've lived here for 2 months and I can easily bump into 3-4 people I know on a random Monday night) so try not to make enemies. Overall it feels like the place where you would reap incremental rewards the more work you put in.

The nightlife is kind of ass but that also has its advantages since you can be out till 2-3 and if you can't pull you can still go to sleep and make work the next day. Still there's a lot of stuff to do in Vancouver: pretty relaxed atmosphere, world class dining options, amazing nature and wilderness, bumping H with Laner and his friends, shoring.

[the Thing]

(04-24-2018 04:49 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

In Toronto, it’s a lot easier for an immigrant or a guy of a minority group to "move up". I know a lot of immigrants who came here somewhat poor but managed to turn it around and get into lucrative professions. Stories of immigrant families coming over being working class but their kid goes on to become a doctor - I've known quite a few examples of this.

When I was in Europe, I noticed how a lot of the immigrants and minorities didn't have this opportunity for upward mobility. Most who came to their respective countries being poor usually remained poor for generations and lived in ethnic ghettos. While some success stories existed, for the most part they were much more rare than in Toronto.

Here is what I found interesting though. In Europe, I saw a lot more couples involving white women with men of minority groups than I did in Toronto. I noticed how European women were generally more receptive to associating with, dating and sleeping with non-white guys. I met Asian, Indian, African and Latin American international students in France who had little to no trouble getting laid or dating the local girls. The kinds of girls these guys were getting in Europe, they’d never have a shot at with the local girls Toronto.

What was interesting is that despite the racism that exists in the economic realm in Europe, none of the European guys (or European society in general) seemed to care that much that an Asian, Indian, Black, or Arab guy was dating a white girl.

Now in Toronto, it’s the complete opposite. Dating a good looking white girl while not being white yourself is a much much bigger deal in Toronto than it is in Europe even though minorities have an easier time moving up economically.

Europeans don’t grant you the same opportunities for economic success in their countries, but they are not nearly as hostile if you decide to go for white women in their country. Most just don't care that much.

Here's a short story.

When I first moved to Stockholm to move in with my (now ex) girlfriend. I went through the whole ordeal. Got a job, rented a place for both of us to live in, started taking Swedish lessons.

Fast forward a year or so, we broke up. Sad I know. I was single and been out of the dating scene for quite some time. Started going out to bars and nightclubs to pick up. However it wasn't going very well.

The word on every immigrant's mouth in Sweden was "you gotta speak Swedish to get laid with Swedish girls". Interesting to note that these guys were not getting down with Swedish girls that often, if at all.

Then I figured, why was I trying to pick up girls in my third language that I could barely hold a conversation in, while every girl I had been talking to spoke perfect English? I went the other way around. Didn't even bother speaking Swedish. Just a word here and there to signal that I'm not a complete fucking outcast. Then the pulls started rolling in.

Fast forward 5 years later, I left the place with some great memories while one of the guys who said the above settled down with a literal land whale, while another became homeless for a while before moving back to his home country.

Moral of the story: If the highlight of your personality --the tip of the iceberg-- is "not being white yourself" expect to get shit for it. Frame the interaction in your favor before it even starts and you'll never have that problem.

Maybe Kaotic can chime in and drop a few words I believe he has a way more inspiring story than mine.

[SLSlayer]

The fact Swedish (and most Europeans under age 40) speak multiple languages will by default make them more open minded to different cultures. Most native English speakers only speak English.

Anglo culture has a bit of a white supremacy syndrome, whereas much of Europe is fairly open minded to outside cultures and people. Not to say that white women in the Anglosphere won't hookup with anyone who's not white, they just don't have that excitement for the "other" that Europeans do.

We all know an Aussie dude would wreak havoc in Toronto simply because of his accent. But I'm also thinking this could work for minority cats from the Anglosphere in Europe as well as other Anglosphere countries outside his own. An Asian-Australian could do well in Toronto as his Aussie accent will offset the negative sexual stereotypes of Asians. In Toronto, he will be perceived as more Australian than Asian on account of his accent whereas back home in Oz he’ll be seen as Asian first.

[ausazn]

(04-24-2018 05:42 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

The fact Swedish (and most Europeans under age 40) speak multiple languages will by default make them more open minded to different cultures. Most native English speakers only speak English.

Anglo culture has a bit of a white supremacy syndrome, whereas much of Europe is fairly open minded to outside cultures and people. Not to say that white women in the Anglosphere won't hookup with anyone who's not white, they just don't have that excitement for the "other" that Europeans do.

We all know an Aussie dude would wreak havoc in Toronto simply because of his accent. But I'm also thinking this could work for minority cats from the Anglosphere in Europe as well as other Anglosphere countries outside his own. An Asian-Australian could do well in Toronto as his Aussie accent will offset the negative sexual stereotypes of Asians. In Toronto, he will be perceived as more Australian than Asian on account of his accent whereas back home in Oz he’ll be seen as Asian first.

A very good analysis, you raise good points. It's almost as if after visiting Europe and especially Eastern Europe this year and last it has ruined the perception of females in the Anglosphere for me.

[Off The Reservation]

I quote myself from the van data sheet

(08-02-2016 11:48 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

Some observations on Van.

First and most importantly thanks to Laner and RustyShackleford for the time and hospitality. Awesome to meet more cool guys from RVF.

Each od these guys owns their destiny and owns Van in their own ways.

So Van is the kins of place that has a lot of money moving through it despite the Army of Canadian Government Beauracrats who, if they understood what Vancouver really was would build a dam and starve the city of commerce. Thankfully their 20k a year University educated brains do not fully comprehend and only go after easy targets their pea brains can grasp. Rich Chinese are buying condos. They are too rich. They are annoying with their tricked out BMWs. Therefore we must take 15 percent. Meanwhile real big business is conducted and the sales of fly swatters is skyrocketing afterall these future government pensioners are like flies.

Van is Kiddie City in some ways also. Lots of kids going out in groups. I would guess you would need membership into one good or several decent fun little groups.

Girls, well its a wide wide range. Sharp Asians, boring Asians, HOT Canadians, trashy fucked up trade-a-massage-for-a-tattoo looking rejects from all over the plains. Tons of immigrant girls that think its odd when someone says hi before ordering a Tim coffee. It must upset their slave rythm to be greeted in a manner that says "I dont care if this takes a second longer. Any human present?". Lefty lefty lefty but every ten you get a spark of think for herselfism.

Its pretty, weather rocks. Approachable, layered. Get your housing straight, after that a little cash goes a long way. There is no unity or common thread. They are all just "there."

With so many asleep, bring your game and you will crush the competition.

[Tiger Man]

I'll jump. I've spent a decent amount of time in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, and Melbourne. Obviously, it's more nuanced than many on the hate threads let on. In the same way, guys who went to T-Dot for two weeks and bagged two 8's aren't the best bellwether, either. As far as Aussie vs. Canuck in each country, I assess it this way. Aussie guys, with the Hemsworth accent, tend to do very well in North America, in general. It helps that Aussie dudes tend to be more yoked and be more devil-may-care than Canadian dudes. Canadians/Americans do not get the same response in some major Australian cities. Sydney. Melbourne. There are plenty of foreigners. You don't get a bump.

Now, on to the hate. All four of the cities I have mentioned suffer from many of the same issues. They are major international cities that are recently flush with foreign money and people. A lot of that money is from Asia (and unknown origin). They are also urbanized, overrun (too many people, too little housing), and seemingly unable to deal with the demographic trends of the past three decades. Finally, they are all full of international universities.

This seems to lead to a certain general culture. You can see it in other cities with similar demographics. I would argue that NYC and London get hate for a lot of the same reasons. The criticisms seem valid to me.

If you aren't a top-tier person in one of these cities, I don't know why you would choose to live/stay there. You can visit, sure. Do a bit of gaming and see the sites. Then, go home. The only reason to stay would be if you want to dominate the city, and that is a very uphill battle.

Specific to the women, those four cities, and the Canadian ones most of all, seem to instantiate what the "bitch shield" is. I have repeatedly found through multiple trips through, and time living in these cities, that the women are cold. And they flake like crazy. It is as if a fundamental disregard for men or relationships or common decency has been bred in to them. Perhaps it is merely a symptom of the modern supercity. All I know is that I have met girls as hot or hotter than Torontonians, Vancouverites, Sydneysiders, and whatever you call people from Melbourne, who were just way cooler. And I met those girls by going 250 kms to the East or West of those cities. So, it isn't a country thing. I don't think it's a race thing either. It is the unfortunate consequence for many who live in these cities.

Now, Toronto. Sydney is nice. Vancouver is nice. Melbourne is nice. You can do cool things in those cities year-round. Toronto is a shithole of a city. The weather sucks. It is drab and grey. Much of the demographic enclave activity has resulted in closed off groups of people. And in the city proper, the finance, government, and media types are automatons of the worst kind. When there are so many other cities to live in, move to, and game, why (oh, WHY!) would anyone choose Toronto? Do the CN Tower Edgewalk, then get back on a plane and go anywhere else. Seriously.

[KipDip]

Women aside they are both terrible cities. Mass immigration has left both Toronto and Vancouver without any type of identity or feel. There is one decent large city left in Canada and that’s Montreal. Thanks to Quebec politics it will prevent Montreal from becoming an immigrant wasteland.

Don’t get me wrong, Canada has a declining population and needs immigration. Just for the love of God make immigrants settle in other locations than Toronto and Vancouver.

Both cities are now bedroom communities full of ethnic groups that rarely mix outside of their own kind.

Weather. Toronto has three nice months of weather and then cold and Vancouver has about three months of nice weather and then rain.

There are much better places in the world to visit.

[Tiger Man]

(04-24-2018 11:40 PM)KipDip Wrote:  

Women aside they are both terrible cities. Mass immigration has left both Toronto and Vancouver without any type of identity or feel. There is one decent large city left in Canada and that’s Montreal. Thanks to Quebec politics it will prevent Montreal from becoming an immigrant wasteland.

Don’t get me wrong, Canada has a declining population and needs immigration. Just for the love of God make immigrants settle in other locations than Toronto and Vancouver.

Both cities are now bedroom communities full of ethnic groups that rarely mix outside of their own kind.

Weather. Toronto has three nice months of weather and then cold and Vancouver has about three months of nice weather and then rain.

There are much better places in the world to visit.

Nooooo. Send them all to Toronto as far as I am concerned. If I drive through Moose Jaw and see a bunch of minarets, that's it for me and Canada. We can't let the insane immigration policies of Junior and his "because it's 2015" cabinet ruin the whole country.

[Banna]

(04-24-2018 10:35 PM)Tiger Man Wrote:  

I'll jump. I've spent a decent amount of time in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, and Melbourne. Obviously, it's more nuanced than many on the hate threads let on. In the same way, guys who went to T-Dot for two weeks and bagged two 8's aren't the best bellwether, either. As far as Aussie vs. Canuck in each country, I assess it this way. Aussie guys, with the Hemsworth accent, tend to do very well in North America, in general. It helps that Aussie dudes tend to be more yoked and be more devil-may-care than Canadian dudes. Canadians/Americans do not get the same response in some major Australian cities. Sydney. Melbourne. There are plenty of foreigners. You don't get a bump.

Now, on to the hate. All four of the cities I have mentioned suffer from many of the same issues. They are major international cities that are recently flush with foreign money and people. A lot of that money is from Asia (and unknown origin). They are also urbanized, overrun (too many people, too little housing), and seemingly unable to deal with the demographic trends of the past three decades. Finally, they are all full of international universities.

This seems to lead to a certain general culture. You can see it in other cities with similar demographics. I would argue that NYC and London get hate for a lot of the same reasons. The criticisms seem valid to me.

If you aren't a top-tier person in one of these cities, I don't know why you would choose to live/stay there. You can visit, sure. Do a bit of gaming and see the sites. Then, go home. The only reason to stay would be if you want to dominate the city, and that is a very uphill battle.

Specific to the women, those four cities, and the Canadian ones most of all, seem to instantiate what the "bitch shield" is. I have repeatedly found through multiple trips through, and time living in these cities, that the women are cold. And they flake like crazy. It is as if a fundamental disregard for men or relationships or common decency has been bred in to them. Perhaps it is merely a symptom of the modern supercity. All I know is that I have met girls as hot or hotter than Torontonians, Vancouverites, Sydneysiders, and whatever you call people from Melbourne, who were just way cooler. And I met those girls by going 250 kms to the East or West of those cities. So, it isn't a country thing. I don't think it's a race thing either. It is the unfortunate consequence for many who live in these cities.

Now, Toronto. Sydney is nice. Vancouver is nice. Melbourne is nice. You can do cool things in those cities year-round. Toronto is a shithole of a city. The weather sucks. It is drab and grey. Much of the demographic enclave activity has resulted in closed off groups of people. And in the city proper, the finance, government, and media types are automatons of the worst kind. When there are so many other cities to live in, move to, and game, why (oh, WHY!) would anyone choose Toronto? Do the CN Tower Edgewalk, then get back on a plane and go anywhere else. Seriously.

Man FOH with the bolded. Some of you guys have the pettiest shit to gripe about when talking about what makes a city shithole to be in. Pull your skirt up.

Johannesburg that I've been to is what Id classify as a shithole with people of wealth living behind electric gated compounds and people living in a constant fear of being robbed. With endless carjacking's and homicides.

Sao Paulo had large sections I'd classify as a shithole. People with the financial means so scared of being robbed they don't even drive and chose to commute around via helicopter.

A shithole as far as I'm concerned is somewhere your safety is constantly at risk to the point of borderline paranoia, rundown decaying infrastructure....dirty run down unkempt areas of squalor.

Posh Forest Hill or Rosedale is unmolested by crime....I could walk right up to any of those multi million dollar homes and knock on their doors if I wanted to. Bridle Path as well. Chicago and Toronto have roughly the same greater metropolitan populations and the total homicide rates differential is staggering

Any big American city would thank the heavens if their inner city slum areas were on par crime/violence wise what is awful Rexdale, lawrence and Allen or Jane n Finch. Vancouver unlike T.O. rains like the bulk of the year and hardly has any hot 25-30 + Celsius days to speak of....I call that sucky weather.

And I'm no fan of women overall in Toronto but I've been homeless and broke for 4 years and counting and I still from time to time fuck girls here including this beautiful forensics uni major half my age.

And I'm sure 100% of you guys are much better off educated/financially than my broke mostly uneducated ass so don't sit here and expect me to believe it's impossible to get women in this city or that there's some sort of secret code to cracking to get in their panties regularly. I know a lot of "non top tier" guys running amok with young hot broads here....even 1 guy in his 40s living in his parents basement in 905.

Heck naw I won't be one of these desperate non white minority guys complaining about T.O. racing to EE for broads to quench their white thirst....I've fucked my fair share of them right here. If it weren't for pussy most of you wouldn't even be going there because I damned sure don't believe you're going to somewhere like Moldova or Estonia because you truly care about falling in love with the culture.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Banna]

(04-25-2018 12:04 AM)Tiger Man Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 11:40 PM)KipDip Wrote:  

Women aside they are both terrible cities. Mass immigration has left both Toronto and Vancouver without any type of identity or feel. There is one decent large city left in Canada and that’s Montreal. Thanks to Quebec politics it will prevent Montreal from becoming an immigrant wasteland.

Don’t get me wrong, Canada has a declining population and needs immigration. Just for the love of God make immigrants settle in other locations than Toronto and Vancouver.

Both cities are now bedroom communities full of ethnic groups that rarely mix outside of their own kind.

Weather. Toronto has three nice months of weather and then cold and Vancouver has about three months of nice weather and then rain.

There are much better places in the world to visit.

Nooooo. Send them all to Toronto as far as I am concerned. If I drive through Moose Jaw and see a bunch of minarets, that's it for me and Canada. We can't let the insane immigration policies of Junior and his "because it's 2015" cabinet ruin the whole country.

Papa Trudeau opened the floodgates to immigrants in Canada back in the 70s when Junior wasn't even a blip on the radar.

Haha Mr. Stormfront aka Tiger Tim previously flapping your gums how only low or trashy white girls hangout with Arabs/blacks crying his ass off about white decline in Canada.

It's funny you got a dickhead here casa nostra looking down his nose at black and oriental women and this is the sentiment many white folks think of his white woman worshipping Arab ass. No wonder his ass had to run from Quebec.

White population decline is a trend in virtually all First world nations (Japan is an exception for obvious reasons) and your ass talks like this is some trend limited to Canada and to be blamed on Justin chiefly. Yeah sure pal,lol.

Better start building your private Aryan utopia/sanctuary somewhere on earth because even if I or any other race of guy wasn't fucking your women.....y'all aren't even reproducing much amongst one another like you used to to upkeep your race anyways.

PS: Quebecers to me are the most annoying whiney people I've ever come across and that offsets how good looking their women are. And bloody speed radar in the city too....yikes lol.

[casa-nostra]

(04-24-2018 11:40 PM)KipDip Wrote:  

Women aside they are both terrible cities. Mass immigration has left both Toronto and Vancouver without any type of identity or feel. There is one decent large city left in Canada and that’s Montreal. Thanks to Quebec politics it will prevent Montreal from becoming an immigrant wasteland.

Don’t get me wrong, Canada has a declining population and needs immigration. Just for the love of God make immigrants settle in other locations than Toronto and Vancouver.

Both cities are now bedroom communities full of ethnic groups that rarely mix outside of their own kind.

Weather. Toronto has three nice months of weather and then cold and Vancouver has about three months of nice weather and then rain.

There are much better places in the world to visit.

Quebec have the worst and chepeast immigrants ..

people tend to come in Canada via Quebec because its the easiest province , then they move to Real Canada (Ontario - BC ...) thats why you see more immigrants in others provinces , i hated every time i spent in Quebec. Ontario is 100 times better.

[the Thing]

(04-24-2018 05:42 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

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(04-24-2018 07:46 PM)ausazn Wrote:  

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Why do you make it sound like no non-white male ever gets laid anywhere in the Anglosphere?

Don't focus on what you are. Focus on what you can be. The Anglosphere is still the best place to climb up the ladder.

If there are girls that care if you're white or not, there are just as many who just don't give the slightest fuck.

Therefore "I can't get laid because I'm not white" is absolute bullshit.

Even in the unlikely instance that it may be true; it's not a winner's mentality.

Drop that kind of thinking. Lift weights. Dress up. Get $$$. +SMV. Approach.

It's your life. Your ONLY life. You won't get a second one.

Fucking LIVE

[Tiger Man]

Did I miss something here?

I'm a fairly new forum member, so I tend to stay well away from the race baiting. I only mentioned the immigration policy in relation to enclaves and how that creates difficult dynamics for operating in Toronto. It did for me, in any case.

Obviously, Toronto doesn't compare to many world cities for crime. Canada is, crime-wise, still one of the safest countries in the world.

As for the Arab/black whatever that was, I think you have me confused with someone else.

[ausazn]

(04-25-2018 02:31 AM)the Thing Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 05:42 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

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(04-24-2018 07:46 PM)ausazn Wrote:  

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Why do you make it sound like no non-white male ever gets laid anywhere in the Anglosphere?

Don't focus on what you are. Focus on what you can be. The Anglosphere is still the best place to climb up the ladder.

If there are girls that care if you're white or not, there are just as many who just don't give the slightest fuck.

Therefore "I can't get laid because I'm not white" is absolute bullshit.

Even in the unlikely instance that it may be true; it's not a winner's mentality.

Drop that kind of thinking. Lift weights. Dress up. Get $$$. +SMV. Approach.

It's your life. Your ONLY life. You won't get a second one.

Fucking LIVE

Of course it's not impossible, its quite radical to say "I can't get laid because I'm not white" unless you are some fob Asian with terrible social skills chasing the average white girl.
It's not a pessimistic mentality but a realistic mentality, that its just easier in the non-Anglosphere with better quality women. Of course I do what I can to improve my SMV, lifting, sport, dressing well, taking care of yourself, having a job, going to university and having a range of hobbies. Pretty happy with what I have going on for self improvement, and I would rather focus my drive towards girls overseas than here, due to the low ROI.

[Australia Sucks]

Off the Reservation you misrepresented the situation with me. I took a 6 week holiday traveling around Colombia and gave my initial/flyover impression that I thought the Bogota girls were top tier but was unimpressed with Medellin girls. Obviously it was just my initial impression and its not always easy to tell what a city is like from a short stay especially if you aren't hitting the right spots and do not have a social circle there. My initial impression was that Bogota girls were hot and friendly and Medellin girls were overrated (did not live up to the hype of their hotness and there attitudes were also bad). I admit if I lived in either city for 3 months I might have a different impression.

For the record I wasn't hating on Colombian girls. I thought Bogota girls were especially good. I was impressed by their looks and friendliness and said so on one of the threads previously. So I do not believe its a case of my attitude following my around as you put. Anyway lets leave it as that because I don't want to derail the thread and start a pointless argument with you.

[AsiaBaller]

If you need a top 10% income just to comfortably rent a small apartment in a building that doesn't look like a housing project it's pretty much a no go unless you somehow see realistic potential to make much more before you're old.

Ultra expensive places also tend to have much more girls looking for providers and the only lower earning guys normally get any slack are guys with scumbag or starving artist game.

[Banna]

(04-24-2018 04:49 PM)SLSlayer Wrote:  

Now in Toronto, it’s the complete opposite. Dating a good looking white girl while not being white yourself is a much much bigger deal in Toronto than it is in Europe even though minorities have an easier time moving up economically.

Hahaha maybe for you bro...you keep telling yourself that.

I've never had this problem whatsoever in Toronto or been shunned by white girls based on my race and I've lived here virtually all my life.....I'm sure if I cared as much for white women in Toronto like some of you do I wouldn't have waited til aged 36 to bang my first one. If my logistics were better and I lived DT the amount of girls I get would shoot through the roof here.

But when I was younger white women were fixated on being anorexic and rail thin Paris/Milan runway fashion models and I didn't find them attractive at all. Now thank the heavens they've moved away from that awful mindset that caused them serious health issues and even death.

Many of the white girls I see at the clubs and the gym with killer bodies....in the 1980/90s they'd have been shunned and fat shamed.

The European immigrant women in Toronto I've dated or banged where they came from had no clue about what it was like to date a non white guy. They weren't even racist or biased at all....there just wasn't any non white guys whatsoever in their neck of the woods so they never had any reason to givr us much thought. I used to see a white EE girl that grew up on a farm milking cows and slaughtering livestock for crying out loud!

I personally loathe the mannerisms of most white women I come across that have resided in Toronto a significant amount of time. They over exaggerate how important/busy their day to day lives are and their spare time is mostly spent idolizing the damned pet cat or dog.

But I view the white girls that newly arrived here to be completely different and more valued and a joy to be around.

My friend has this absolutely smoking newly arrived Finnish blonde girl that barely even knows her way around and she commutes on the bus from DT to Brampton to his basement apartment to see him. She never had the chance to meet a non white guy in Helsinki til him. I was at the club and guys were hitting her up crazy.

OTOH these bratty white broads that know the city from A to B and even have a car would turn up their nose at such a thought. It's hard enough for them lazy to get motivated to leave their Liberty Village pads to uber or take a streetcar for a guy that actually lives down their way.

As Daryl Hall & Oates once sang: "I can't go for that.....noooo".

[Banna]

I just see a lot of insecurities and guys ponting fingers at others for their own shortcomings in life.

Who on earth are some of y'all white guys to tell immigrants where they should or shouldn't relocate as if Canada was YOUR land from the get go or complain about cities being ruined by them?

It isn't even like Canada is Europe where white people have lived for an eternity. Whites migrated here.

What'd your ancestors do to come to Canada? Came over slaughtered swathes of Natives going about their business for 1000s of years and converted masses to depressed alcoholics that's what!

Oh immigrants have ruined Vancouver and Chinese buying large chunks of real estate? It was off of exploiting their asses back in the day and subjecting them to brutal working conditions that provinces infrastructure came to be in the first place.

[KipDip]

The government is admitting these people into the country, allowing them to flee the shit hole countries they are trying to escape. The government damn well has the right to tell these people where they can settle.

[rishboy77]

(04-25-2018 07:36 AM)Banna Wrote:  

I personally loathe the mannerisms of most white women I come across that have resided in Toronto a significant amount of time. They over exaggerate how important/busy their day to day lives are and their spare time is mostly spent idolizing the damned pet cat or dog.

But I view the white girls that newly arrived here to be completely different and more valued and a joy to be around.