[Banna]

(04-25-2018 09:54 AM)KipDip Wrote:  

The government is admitting these people into the country, allowing them to flee the shit hole countries they are trying to escape. The government damn well has the right to tell these people where they can settle.

Even if they want immigrants to reside in some small place like Swift Current or Prince Albert....there's no given they'll stay there. All the Canadian cities with money are very close to the USA border.

That's human nature and a worldwide trend and again something not limited to Canada. Worldwide for the first time in the history of mankind rural populations have been surpassed by metropolitan populations.

I'm out of this thread ......there's too much ignorance here. I can't believe a guy is going to openly admit he thinks he has less of a chance of landing a beautiful white woman here because he isn't white himself.

[Banna]

(04-25-2018 12:07 PM)rishboy77 Wrote:  

(04-25-2018 07:36 AM)Banna Wrote:  

I personally loathe the mannerisms of most white women I come across that have resided in Toronto a significant amount of time. They over exaggerate how important/busy their day to day lives are and their spare time is mostly spent idolizing the damned pet cat or dog.

But I view the white girls that newly arrived here to be completely different and more valued and a joy to be around.

Here's my final synopsis of Toronto girls. Part of my lack of success is due to dating the wrong group for the bulk of my life....I.e. my age......miserable single mothers and is my fault. If I could turn back the clock I'd have done it differently.

Want to have success and fun with girls? Weed out what's destined to fail.

Only go for young University/college girls. If not....get girls that recently arrived in the city.

These broads with degrees and a few years into their careers are a complete fucking waste of time.

They do NOT value a man's time or interest in them. A man is seen as something little more than a toy....something that compliments their life and to be had whenever they feel. Not a necessity or something they strongly desire.

I've ONS a few of these girls they all have electric dildos in their drawers.

College/University girls OTOH....just moved out their parents house....finally out in the world and relatively inexperienced with guys and I've found.....down for whatever. You can open doors for these women sexually their Lil 19 and 20 year boys have no clue of how to unlike some 25 30 or 35 broad that's been through the ringer. They generally want to be dominated by a guy....I've had 2 tell me this recently.

The girl I banged over the weekend told me her ex was a lame pothead while she was a avid fitness buff.

You HAVE to be in great physical shape for these girls especially if you're 30+. But you don't need $$$/status to get at them.

[kosko]

To OP:

Toronto is a great place to visit. Even if I lived elsewhere, I would still make trips here. The summer months are great here, and you can full your calendar with random events in a short period if you know where to go.

It is living here and the grind that wears you down. When you deal with Toronto women on a part-time basis, it isn't that bad but full time isn't good for the health. Majority of men who have the game or their act together stay here purely for career and business reasons. If Toronto did not have Canada's largest economy, nobody would live here.

Toronto isn't worth the effort. That is just the core of it. For the same amount of energy and resources elsewhere, you will enjoy a much higher quality/standard life or have more new surroundings. NYC, for example, is expensive and can make you poor but the women are great to deal with, and there is lots of culture and exciting things happening in the city that makes up for the potential financial misery. Here in Toronto, you get 1/8 of the culture of NYC for about 85% of the living costs, and half the quality for women and dating.

We say all the time here that tourist visit =/= living here. Every Toronto dude that move here and now complain about it was at one point a tourist here. I myself got suckered into moving here after a 6 day trip to Toronto that was one of the most fun times I have ever had. Lots of parties and pussy, I thought this place was wild. I moved here and desperately tried to recreate that but once winter hit everything went dry.

[kosko]

(04-24-2018 11:40 PM)KipDip Wrote:  

Women aside they are both terrible cities. Mass immigration has left both Toronto and Vancouver without any type of identity or feel. There is one decent large city left in Canada and that’s Montreal. Thanks to Quebec politics it will prevent Montreal from becoming an immigrant wasteland.

Don’t get me wrong, Canada has a declining population and needs immigration. Just for the love of God make immigrants settle in other locations than Toronto and Vancouver.

Both cities are now bedroom communities full of ethnic groups that rarely mix outside of their own kind.

Weather. Toronto has three nice months of weather and then cold and Vancouver has about three months of nice weather and then rain.

There are much better places in the world to visit.

Go get out of your basement or go crawl into the Migrant Europe thread.

Toronto has been non-white for almost 20 years, this is nothing new. Toronto residents will tell you that classrooms were full of Chinese kids in the 90s. Toronto has not been a Canadian City since the 70s.

Montreal?

You mean Montreal that is full of North Africans? Montreal is filled up all over with immigrants. It is only the large Jewish population that skews its "white" demographic numbers. Also, unless you are Quebeciose the Eastenders don't consider you one of them.

What a silly post. True sign you have no on the ground experience. I have said time and time again the majority of Canada is white as hell. Go drive 2 hours in any direction in Canada and you won't find a person of colour aside from a random Chinese or Native guy who owns a gas station.

If this is something that is important to you go move to any place in Canada, not Vancouver, Toronto or Montreal and you will have your white nirvana all to yourself.

Take this from a person who grew up in an all-white city. I didn't meet another black kid in my city until a soccer tournament when I was in 3rd grade. Canada is far from some migrant dystopia you paint it, you need to get outside more. Peace.

[TheFinalEpic]

And here I am pretty convinced that one of these two cities is the next city I'll live in. Interesting.

[KipDip]

Kosko: I agree with most of what your saying, but I’ll tell you Montreal isn’t even close to Toronto and Vancouver when it comes to the number of immigrants. Why do you think housing there is a quarter of what it is in TO and Van?

[Lermontov]

Half of Toronto's population is born abroad while the third of Montreal's population is.

[rudebwoy]

Vancouver real estate is on par with Toronto, even more expensive in some places.

Foreign investors have raised the real estate prices in both cities. Yes, Toronto is expensive but supply and demand keeps raising the prices.

Toronto gets hate because it is a unforgiving city.

Canada is a immigrant country, so I don't understand why all this talk about immigrants.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

Canada was a country of European colonizers and immigrants, NOT a dumping ground for third world like it currently is.

[scotian]

Toronto was a city full of uptight, sexually repressed, WASPY Upper Canadian weirdos that decided to transform itself into an even more uptight, overworked, status obsessed place by importing hordes of weirdo Asian immigrants who share similar values to the white Protestants who settled there before them: working too much and not getting laid.

They could have been like the bon vivant Quebecois who aren’t so obsessed with material wealth and care more about the joie de vivre: strippers and poutine!

Toronto should have accepted more immigrants from Catholic back grounds who like to drink, fuck and party.

[Ghost Tiger]

(04-26-2018 11:20 AM)scotian Wrote:  

Toronto was a city full of uptight, sexually repressed, WASPY Upper Canadian weirdos that decided to transform itself into an even more uptight, overworked, status obsessed place by importing hordes of weirdo Asian immigrants who share similar values to the white Protestants who settled there before them: working too much and not getting laid.

They could have been like the bon vivant Quebecois who aren’t so obsessed with material wealth and care more about the joie de vivre: strippers and poutine!

Toronto should have accepted more immigrants from Catholic back grounds who like to drink, fuck and party.

Catholicism! FUCK YEAH!!!

[AManLikePutin]

(04-25-2018 02:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

To OP:

Toronto is a great place to visit. Even if I lived elsewhere, I would still make trips here. The summer months are great here, and you can full your calendar with random events in a short period if you know where to go.

It is living here and the grind that wears you down. When you deal with Toronto women on a part-time basis, it isn't that bad but full time isn't good for the health. Majority of men who have the game or their act together stay here purely for career and business reasons. If Toronto did not have Canada's largest economy, nobody would live here.

Toronto isn't worth the effort. That is just the core of it. For the same amount of energy and resources elsewhere, you will enjoy a much higher quality/standard life or have more new surroundings. NYC, for example, is expensive and can make you poor but the women are great to deal with, and there is lots of culture and exciting things happening in the city that makes up for the potential financial misery. Here in Toronto, you get 1/8 of the culture of NYC for about 85% of the living costs, and half the quality for women and dating.

We say all the time here that tourist visit =/= living here. Every Toronto dude that move here and now complain about it was at one point a tourist here. I myself got suckered into moving here after a 6 day trip to Toronto that was one of the most fun times I have ever had. Lots of parties and pussy, I thought this place was wild. I moved here and desperately tried to recreate that but once winter hit everything went dry.

Have lived in both cities and couldn't have said it better myself.

Also, it's significantly cheaper to fly out internationally (to Europe, Asia or South America) from NYC compared to Toronto if you're the travelling type. In fact, Canada is the most expensive country in the world to fly outside of its borders. Last year I paid around $600 for a round-trip flight to Central Asia from New York with 2-day layover in Belarus...good luck finding such deals flying from YYZ.

[rudebwoy]

(04-25-2018 12:34 AM)Banna Wrote:  

(04-24-2018 10:35 PM)Tiger Man Wrote:  

I'll jump. I've spent a decent amount of time in Vancouver, Toronto, Sydney, and Melbourne. Obviously, it's more nuanced than many on the hate threads let on. In the same way, guys who went to T-Dot for two weeks and bagged two 8's aren't the best bellwether, either. As far as Aussie vs. Canuck in each country, I assess it this way. Aussie guys, with the Hemsworth accent, tend to do very well in North America, in general. It helps that Aussie dudes tend to be more yoked and be more devil-may-care than Canadian dudes. Canadians/Americans do not get the same response in some major Australian cities. Sydney. Melbourne. There are plenty of foreigners. You don't get a bump.

Now, on to the hate. All four of the cities I have mentioned suffer from many of the same issues. They are major international cities that are recently flush with foreign money and people. A lot of that money is from Asia (and unknown origin). They are also urbanized, overrun (too many people, too little housing), and seemingly unable to deal with the demographic trends of the past three decades. Finally, they are all full of international universities.

This seems to lead to a certain general culture. You can see it in other cities with similar demographics. I would argue that NYC and London get hate for a lot of the same reasons. The criticisms seem valid to me.

If you aren't a top-tier person in one of these cities, I don't know why you would choose to live/stay there. You can visit, sure. Do a bit of gaming and see the sites. Then, go home. The only reason to stay would be if you want to dominate the city, and that is a very uphill battle.

Specific to the women, those four cities, and the Canadian ones most of all, seem to instantiate what the "bitch shield" is. I have repeatedly found through multiple trips through, and time living in these cities, that the women are cold. And they flake like crazy. It is as if a fundamental disregard for men or relationships or common decency has been bred in to them. Perhaps it is merely a symptom of the modern supercity. All I know is that I have met girls as hot or hotter than Torontonians, Vancouverites, Sydneysiders, and whatever you call people from Melbourne, who were just way cooler. And I met those girls by going 250 kms to the East or West of those cities. So, it isn't a country thing. I don't think it's a race thing either. It is the unfortunate consequence for many who live in these cities.

Now, Toronto. Sydney is nice. Vancouver is nice. Melbourne is nice. You can do cool things in those cities year-round. Toronto is a shithole of a city. The weather sucks. It is drab and grey. Much of the demographic enclave activity has resulted in closed off groups of people. And in the city proper, the finance, government, and media types are automatons of the worst kind. When there are so many other cities to live in, move to, and game, why (oh, WHY!) would anyone choose Toronto? Do the CN Tower Edgewalk, then get back on a plane and go anywhere else. Seriously.

Man FOH with the bolded. Some of you guys have the pettiest shit to gripe about when talking about what makes a city shithole to be in. Pull your skirt up.

Johannesburg that I've been to is what Id classify as a shithole with people of wealth living behind electric gated compounds and people living in a constant fear of being robbed. With endless carjacking's and homicides.

Sao Paulo had large sections I'd classify as a shithole. People with the financial means so scared of being robbed they don't even drive and chose to commute around via helicopter.

A shithole as far as I'm concerned is somewhere your safety is constantly at risk to the point of borderline paranoia, rundown decaying infrastructure....dirty run down unkempt areas of squalor.

Posh Forest Hill or Rosedale is unmolested by crime....I could walk right up to any of those multi million dollar homes and knock on their doors if I wanted to. Bridle Path as well. Chicago and Toronto have roughly the same greater metropolitan populations and the total homicide rates differential is staggering

Any big American city would thank the heavens if their inner city slum areas were on par crime/violence wise what is awful Rexdale, lawrence and Allen or Jane n Finch. Vancouver unlike T.O. rains like the bulk of the year and hardly has any hot 25-30 + Celsius days to speak of....I call that sucky weather.

And I'm no fan of women overall in Toronto but I've been homeless and broke for 4 years and counting and I still from time to time fuck girls here including this beautiful forensics uni major half my age.

And I'm sure 100% of you guys are much better off educated/financially than my broke mostly uneducated ass so don't sit here and expect me to believe it's impossible to get women in this city or that there's some sort of secret code to cracking to get in their panties regularly. I know a lot of "non top tier" guys running amok with young hot broads here....even 1 guy in his 40s living in his parents basement in 905.

Heck naw I won't be one of these desperate non white minority guys complaining about T.O. racing to EE for broads to quench their white thirst....I've fucked my fair share of them right here. If it weren't for pussy most of you wouldn't even be going there because I damned sure don't believe you're going to somewhere like Moldova or Estonia because you truly care about falling in love with the culture.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[NoMoreTO]

I think its very possible to get laid and do well, especially with an Aussie accent. Its the generally accepted favourite accent here amongst chicks. Generally speaking you'll find in Toronto some serious bitch shields, and girls who give off attitude. That said the whole city is introverted and sometimes seems afraid to speak in public. Weird stuff. The key as long as I have lived here, is to not take a hard rejection personally, which you can get in Toronto. The next girl might be good to go.

In terms of living here and getting a solid girl, probably not the place. Unless shes an immigrant or 1st gen Canadian Born from East Europe, S. America or whatever it is you go for.

[EndsExpect]

(04-25-2018 12:34 AM)Banna Wrote:  

A shithole as far as I'm concerned is somewhere your safety is constantly at risk to the point of borderline paranoia, rundown decaying infrastructure....dirty run down unkempt areas of squalor.
Posh Forest Hill or Rosedale is unmolested by crime....I could walk right up to any of those multi million dollar homes and knock on their doors if I wanted to. Bridle Path as well. Chicago and Toronto have roughly the same greater metropolitan populations and the total homicide rates differential is staggering

And I'm no fan of women overall in Toronto but I've been homeless and broke for 4 years and counting and I still from time to time fuck girls here including this beautiful forensics uni major half my age.

Heck naw I won't be one of these desperate non white minority guys complaining about T.O. racing to EE for broads to quench their white thirst....I've fucked my fair share of them right here. If it weren't for pussy most of you wouldn't even be going there because I damned sure don't believe you're going to somewhere like Moldova or Estonia because you truly care about falling in love with the culture.

I'm sorry, but I've spent a fair amount of time in these cities... particularly Vancouver, and they are not as safe as you make them out to be. When you are broke and homeless people have nothing to steal, but I've been robbed in Vancouver twice... and I don't fucking live there. These cities don't have high murder rates, but people can take your shit and the cops don't care. They literally just tell you to call your insurance company. So, get the fuck out of here with this noise about Canada being amazingly safe. I've been in places where people haven't locked a door in 40 years... those places are safe. I suppose if you never experienced a really high trust, safe environment... then maybe big city Canada with it's constant petty property crime would seem pretty nice.

As for getting laid while being broke and homeless... It actually helps you with a lot of these bitches. That goes double if your ethnic mix skews African and your dealing with posh white girls. It's a fantasy some of them have, but I won't go into detail about it because frankly I find it insulting to men in this situation. My advice is to take advantage of it, and don't think about it too hard.

(04-25-2018 01:14 AM)Banna Wrote:  

Papa Trudeau opened the floodgates to immigrants in Canada back in the 70s when Junior wasn't even a blip on the radar.
Haha Mr. Stormfront aka Tiger Tim previously flapping your gums how only low or trashy white girls hangout with Arabs/blacks crying his ass off about white decline in Canada.
It's funny you got a dickhead here casa nostra looking down his nose at black and oriental women and this is the sentiment many white folks think of his white woman worshipping Arab ass. No wonder his ass had to run from Quebec.
White population decline is a trend in virtually all First world nations (Japan is an exception for obvious reasons) and your ass talks like this is some trend limited to Canada and to be blamed on Justin chiefly. Yeah sure pal,lol.
Better start building your private Aryan utopia/sanctuary somewhere on earth because even if I or any other race of guy wasn't fucking your women.....y'all aren't even reproducing much amongst one another like you used to to upkeep your race anyways.
PS: Quebecers to me are the most annoying whiney people I've ever come across and that offsets how good looking their women are. And bloody speed radar in the city too....yikes lol.

Look, people of European descent built some great civilizations and starting around 500 years ago conquered the world. Today everything they built is in decline. The world's leaders will be likely Asian within 50 years and Europe will be a crumbling shell of what it once was.

Meanwhile the elites of these countries are greedily trying to lower the pay of their own work force by mass immigration of peoples who do not share the culture or values of the native inhabitants. 200 years ago most poor or middle class European guys would band together chop off the heads of the elites and run the immigrants out by sword point. Today the Elites control of government is too strong and the police states too big, and the populace generally unarmed, for them to take any action. So, they do what they can... whine and vote for some dildo like Trump.

Demographic decline is the future for the entire world eventually. It will some day even affect the Muslims.

Here is the thing. European descended populations will never go away. They will just become greater and greater minorities and as the people around them become more and more openly racist they will become more insular.

As for all the people chasing after Euro girls... I spent half my adult life chasing, fucking, dealing with white women. I've come to a point where I kind of hate them... at least the big city girls. In the time since I stopped finding them all that attractive, my life has become much better. My opinion of men who treat white women like the holy grail of pussy is that they are just dumbfucks. I've had plenty and good ones are exceedingly rare.

(04-26-2018 09:19 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Vancouver real estate is on par with Toronto, even more expensive in some places.
Foreign investors have raised the real estate prices in both cities. Yes, Toronto is expensive but supply and demand keeps raising the prices.
Canada is a immigrant country, so I don't understand why all this talk about immigrants.

Vancouver recently put a tax on foreign investment and the market has leveled out a lot.

From the very beginning of time people have always bitched about immigrants. I don't see why that is so surprising. I mean it's literally human nature.

(04-26-2018 10:00 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Canada was a country of European colonizers and immigrants, NOT a dumping ground for third world like it currently is.

LOL... Colonizers? The Europeans who came to Canada originally were not upper class nobles looking to build a new mansion. They were the poor white trash of their day trying to find a place where they could make their fortune, build a new life. Most of the "third world" immigrants today are no different that the original European settlers.

In my opinion though the jury is still out on Muslim immigrants. They seem to be very different from every other group. Asians, South Americans, and Africans are all coming to build a better life for their families as a general rule. The Muslims I have met tend to share this viewpoint where they are very hostile to their new home. Running welfare fraud games, screwing people in business dealing, raping, and robbing at will... these all seem to be justifiable in their minds. Not all of them mind you, but enough that they should be in a separate category of immigrant.

I can't say much about immigrants in Toronto, but in Vancouver where I have spent a significant amount of time. The immigration just offers entirely new sets of women to chase. The Chinese and Indian women in this town are very much worth the effort.

Anyway... that's my opinion on the topic based on spending plenty of time in both cities.

[ActiontoKnowledge]

OP: I've not visited Toronto for more than 48 hours, so I can't comment on everything I've read / heard because it's all 3rd hand info.

To go back to your original question...to simply say "Vancouver sucks" is oversimplifying it...it just has a poor work:reward ratio Game-wise, and price:value ratio financially compared to other cities around the world.

All the pros have already been mentioned: quality of living, beautiful city (for half the year), the surrounding nature, international rotation of girls coming in, good start-up / entrepreneurial scene (but stifling small-business taxes), safe, etc etc. And also the negatives: too many immigrants driving up real estate prices, cliquey / snobby locals, rains half the year, huge PUA scene (competition / saturation), lots of SJW types, etc etc.

I can see how an Aussie player with Game and the shiny factor with the accent can do well in both cities. Plus vacay mode sometimes gives you a better / adventure / extraverted party vibe. Every visitor / international student that I've met raves about how much they loved it. Living here long term is a different animal and like others have mentioned about TO, it just wears on you.

Can you succeed in both places? Absolutely. There is always room for a suave player who's got his stuff together. But you better be willing to put in the work to become a top tier, high value man and be ready to bust your ass off. But then again, why would you want to do that in Van when you can get better quality elsewhere with less work, and where your dollar also goes much farther?

It's a great city to visit and party in the spring & summer for sure, but I can't recommend to another red pill, Game-aware guy to live here.

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

(04-28-2018 03:34 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(04-26-2018 10:00 AM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Canada was a country of European colonizers and immigrants, NOT a dumping ground for third world like it currently is.

LOL... Colonizers? The Europeans who came to Canada originally were not upper class nobles looking to build a new mansion. They were the poor white trash of their day trying to find a place where they could make their fortune, build a new life. Most of the "third world" immigrants today are no different that the original European settlers.

Yes, Canada was a British colony. They came and took it over. That's the definition of colonizing. Then there was subsequent waves of Euro immigration up until the 70s when they started letting in the rest of the world.

Of course the upper class didn't leave their home countries. That's obvious, but to say it was nothing but trash is itself garbage. Trash doesn't build the most prosperous, safe and free countries in the world. And your assertion that your average Celt or Anglo from the 1800s is equivalent to a street shitting Indian or a Kenyan from a slum is pure ignorance.

[rudebwoy]

(04-28-2018 05:14 PM)ActiontoKnowledge Wrote:  

OP: I've not visited Toronto for more than 48 hours, so I can't comment on everything I've read / heard because it's all 3rd hand info.

All the pros have already been mentioned: quality of living, beautiful city (for half the year), the surrounding nature, international rotation of girls coming in, good start-up / entrepreneurial scene (but stifling small-business taxes), safe, etc etc. And also the negatives: too many immigrants driving up real estate prices, cliquey / snobby locals, rains half the year, huge PUA scene (competition / saturation), lots of SJW types, etc etc.

Obviously, you don't live here and you certainly don't know what you are talking about.

Immigrants did not raise the prices of real estate, foreign investors have caused the price to sky rocket.
The Chinese were buying up the place, until the government stepped in and introduced a tax on non-Canadians buying property. Vancouver had adopted the same strategy previously.
Once this tax was put in place, the Chinese moved onto greener pastures.

There has been a increase in rich Chinese students "studying" here, they tend to drive high end super cars.

To the OP - I wouldn't move here based on a summer holiday. It is a great city but obviously not for everyone, many RVF guys from the city tend to spend a lot of time overseas.

[ActiontoKnowledge]

(04-28-2018 08:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Obviously, you don't live here and you certainly don't know what you are talking about.

Immigrants did not raise the prices of real estate, foreign investors have caused the price to sky rocket.
The Chinese were buying up the place, until the government stepped in and introduced a tax on non-Canadians buying property. Vancouver had adopted the same strategy previously.
Once this tax was put in place, the Chinese moved onto greener pastures.

There has been a increase in rich Chinese students "studying" here, they tend to drive high end super cars.

Yes, it's so obvious to you based on one post that I don't live here and my whole data sheet is based on second hand or made up info

I'll concede that using the word "immigrants" was a poor word choice since they tend not to be the ones buying up houses and condos right off the plane, but they do add to the demand for housing supply which contributes to higher prices. Oversea foreign investors obviously have something to do with it as well.

While the foreign investor tax has cooled the market somewhat, I would hard say the Chinese have "moved on. The market is still hot compared to other cities as per friends of mine who work in real estate and the numbers they published in the last few months.

[EndsExpect]

(04-28-2018 07:54 PM)Cambodian Creamsicle Wrote:  

Yes, Canada was a British colony. They came and took it over. That's the definition of colonizing. Then there was subsequent waves of Euro immigration up until the 70s when they started letting in the rest of the world.
Of course the upper class didn't leave their home countries. That's obvious, but to say it was nothing but trash is itself garbage. Trash doesn't build the most prosperous, safe and free countries in the world. And your assertion that your average Celt or Anglo from the 1800s is equivalent to a street shitting Indian or a Kenyan from a slum is pure ignorance.

Ok that's honestly funny. I've learned some weird stuff about India over the years and the fact that they had to do public service announcements to ask people not go defecate directly in the street... I've honest never laughed so hard. Anotherfunny news story regarding India is that the condom company Trojan had to re-engineer their condoms because the smallest size was slipping off Indian guys. I think it's due to rampant vegetarianism.

Anyway, The street shitters in India are not getting Canadian PR cards. Most immigrants from Asia are educationally far above the waves of European immigrants in the past. That said the world is a bit different place, and I would hold them as rough equivalents.

We have a fairly large Kenyan community here where I live. I like them as a group. Generally speaking Kenyan women have treated me very well. I don't believe that I will ever complain about Kenyan immigrants.

[AsiaBaller]

(04-28-2018 08:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Once this tax was put in place, the Chinese moved onto greener pastures.

Is that the case? To my understanding they simply moved to buying properties via Canadian companies instead.

[Sidney Crosby]

(04-29-2018 01:12 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 08:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Once this tax was put in place, the Chinese moved onto greener pastures.

Is that the case? To my understanding they simply moved to buying properties via Canadian companies instead.

The tax did fuck all, it momentarily slowed things down. I wish western countries were more like Asian countries where foreigners aren't allowed to buy detached homes. All the tax did was drive the prices up in Seattle but Chinaman love Vancouver and I don't expect that to ever end.

[TooFineAPoint]

(04-28-2018 03:34 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

LOL... Colonizers? The Europeans who came to Canada originally were not upper class nobles looking to build a new mansion. They were the poor white trash of their day trying to find a place where they could make their fortune, build a new life. Most of the "third world" immigrants today are no different that the original European settlers.

That's a woeful misrepresentation.

Here was the first European settlement in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlesbourg-Royal

Founded under orders of the French King, by Jacques Cartier (middle class) and Jean-François de La Rocque de Roberval (a Huguenot courtier and friend of the king).

It didn't last, but the early mix of settlers that finally managed to stick were a mix of priests, adventurous nobles, and middle class. There were likely some "poor white trash" too, and there is a story about French prostitutes ("the King's daughters) being sent to satisfy the early settlements.

But let's not go off half-cocked on fantastical comic book manias about who settled North America.

[rudebwoy]

(04-29-2018 01:12 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  

(04-28-2018 08:52 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Once this tax was put in place, the Chinese moved onto greener pastures.

Is that the case? To my understanding they simply moved to buying properties via Canadian companies instead.

Since the tax came in, the market has slowed down quite a bit. I see a lot more for sale signs in my area and houses are now staying on the market for much longer.

I think the tax came in a bit late, everyone got greedy when the gold rush was going on. I am glad the stupid bidding wars are over, sadly the real estate market is still way too high.
The average "Canadian" buyer doesn't have $250K as a deposit for a home.

I have seen Chinese investors buy the whole floor in a brand new condo. In my line of work, I come across these people that are looking to buy businesses and homes like most people buy sneakers.

This isn't anything new, 20 years ago I recall the rich Hong Kong men paying $250K for a business visa and setting up shop here for their wives and children.

I didn't know foreigners weren't allowed to buy detached homes in Asia, can they buy semi-detached homes?

Now as for the early settlers, they weren't middle class people. They were usually the lower class that were living miserable lives in their respective European country.
Look at Australia, it was a penal colony that Britain used to send their prisoners.
It the later years, Australia paid people to move there and so did Canada.

I don't have a problem if you hate certain people, trust me I don't like everyone. But to say we should ban immigration is a little stupid.

Who would serve me my morning Tim Hortons?

[NoMoreTO]

This thread seems to be veering into the immigration policies of Canada, which to me seems to be to immigrate as many people into the country as possible, all of them in Toronto Vancouver Mtl and Calgary.

In terms of getting laid, one nice thing about Toronto is you can get the nationality you want, although in a diluted Toronto version. IF you want a latina you can find one, my buddy is on a ukranian kick and he seems to be lining them up. I lived in Toronto 8 years. The culture in Toronto is very uptight, yes in the summer you can definitely have some fun, lots of different things going on, but when its winter everyone is hibernating and just going to work and waiting to die. Its best to lock a girl down over the winter because by the time people finish work at 5pm its already dark and -10 out.