[Banna]

(04-28-2018 03:34 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(04-25-2018 12:34 AM)Banna Wrote:  

A shithole as far as I'm concerned is somewhere your safety is constantly at risk to the point of borderline paranoia, rundown decaying infrastructure....dirty run down unkempt areas of squalor.
Posh Forest Hill or Rosedale is unmolested by crime....I could walk right up to any of those multi million dollar homes and knock on their doors if I wanted to. Bridle Path as well. Chicago and Toronto have roughly the same greater metropolitan populations and the total homicide rates differential is staggering

And I'm no fan of women overall in Toronto but I've been homeless and broke for 4 years and counting and I still from time to time fuck girls here including this beautiful forensics uni major half my age.

Heck naw I won't be one of these desperate non white minority guys complaining about T.O. racing to EE for broads to quench their white thirst....I've fucked my fair share of them right here. If it weren't for pussy most of you wouldn't even be going there because I damned sure don't believe you're going to somewhere like Moldova or Estonia because you truly care about falling in love with the culture.

I'm sorry, but I've spent a fair amount of time in these cities... particularly Vancouver, and they are not as safe as you make them out to be. When you are broke and homeless people have nothing to steal, but I've been robbed in Vancouver twice... and I don't fucking live there. These cities don't have high murder rates, but people can take your shit and the cops don't care. They literally just tell you to call your insurance company. So, get the fuck out of here with this noise about Canada being amazingly safe. I've been in places where people haven't locked a door in 40 years... those places are safe. I suppose if you never experienced a really high trust, safe environment... then maybe big city Canada with it's constant petty property crime would seem pretty nice.

As for getting laid while being broke and homeless... It actually helps you with a lot of these bitches. That goes double if your ethnic mix skews African and your dealing with posh white girls. It's a fantasy some of them have, but I won't go into detail about it because frankly I find it insulting to men in this situation. My advice is to take advantage of it, and don't think about it too hard

Listen man all I'll say is if someone gonna cry about Toronto being a shithole as the person i quoted said.....they really need to get out into the world. I'll just chalk it up as a resentment for not getting laid enough. I don't lose sleep about crime here and I've lived pretty much all my life. Ironically my vehicle has never been broken into until I drove to Montreal 4 years ago and parked it on a crowded street. I leave it unlocked for the past 4 years and I've set up shop all over the GTA....and no one has entered it.

And re the 2nd. I sense where you'd be going its not simply our so called sexual prowess (mandingo) that'd make "posh white women" in Toronto want to be with a black man. They love black music/urban culture. We ain't rapping scary anti white establishment anthems like Fight the Power or Fuck tha Police anymore.

They don't even listen to or care for Rock n Roll anymore. The hottest white girls in Toronto...they don't worship Axl Rose or Kurt Cobain like 25 - 30 years ago or dream of NKOTB as kids . Unless they into 100% into EDM (which they aint) they all following whatever Drake/Migos/Weeknds latest trends.

I laugh at a guy sitting here telling roosh non white races have a lesser success at beautiful white girls in Toronto whereas in Europe it's different.

Not my black ass....have had my fair share of them....and I started off real late in life with white girls....by choice. Black women never left me for wanting sexually.

Black women across this planet live just as much shameless slutty promiscuous lifestyles as white women.....without fear of cultural shaming or even death. At my H.S. 1/3 of the black girls there already had kids. Heck my crazy 78 year old aunt mothered 8 kids from 6 different father's and in both cases nobody was beheaded. Lol

No need for me/us to seek white women out because my own kind aren't putting out. I can go to at least 1/2 dozen primarily black venues in Toronto where our women are gyrating and acting the damned fool any Friday or Saturday of the year.

Heck I can annually travel to primarily black attended events like Trinidad or Bahia Brazil carnival. Or even stay Stateside with Essence music festival. In the 90s in Atlanta black women were doing all sorts of lewd things at Freaknik for cameras.

Whether or not whites existed black people would still be fucking like rabbits amongst each other....having kids outta wedlock, ....cheating....making all sorts of songs promoting raunchy behaviour. White women don't have me by the balls....and no black man (I really wish all races of men) anywhere on the planet should need to feel that way. And white women in Toronto don't need us black guys either. They have a horde of successful well off attractive white men to keep them satisfied sexually.

We both more choose to be amongst each other sexually from time to time because we're both naturally promiscuous.

Now these other races/cultures primarily Indians/Arabs you see out here after white girls....where they gonna go to live a promiscuous lifestyle? They can't hop on a plane and run home to do so. There's no annual events they can flock to in droves for hedonistic behavior.

Just not in their bloodlines/cultures.

And they already not interested/prejudiced against black women so we don't count. I'm sure this newly arrived to Toronto Casa loser and his "3 so far notches in the city" damned sure ain't running to his own women for pussy. His ass isn't even welcome to set foot in the wealthier Arab states much less sniff any of their women.

So what are they left with? White women. Yeah they'll shame/kill their own women for dating the "wrong" guy, but white women supposed to accept their asses in droves while they themselves seek out the same EXACT thing they'll butcher their own women for? Yeah good luck with that lol.

Of course just be like Casa the Arab loser running from a province he couldn't game white women and try to "blend in" and distance yourself from your own kind as far as possible.

It's the few white women out there in T.O. (and when they travel to EE ) keeping their hopes of living a promiscuous life alive. They need white women like a newborn baby needs their umbilical cord.

[scotian]

One of the best posts I’ve ever read on RVF, +1 from me Banna, some harsh truths there fellas.

[EndsExpect]

(04-30-2018 12:12 AM)Banna Wrote:  

Listen man all I'll say is if someone gonna cry about Toronto being a shithole as the person i quoted said.....they really need to get out into the world. I'll just chalk it up as a resentment for not getting laid enough. I don't lose sleep about crime here and I've lived pretty much all my life. Ironically my vehicle has never been broken into until I drove to Montreal 4 years ago and parked it on a crowded street. I leave it unlocked for the past 4 years and I've set up shop all over the GTA....and no one has entered it.

Statistically speaking you will have your car broken into every 6 years in Vancouver. I couldn't tell you how that is in Toronto. If you have been there 12 years with zero breakins then it could be you have a low breakin neighborhood, or you just have been lucky. In Vancouver they broke my window and ransacked my car to get at a quarter sitting in the center console. The kids who did it tend to be druggies looking for money to score.

(04-30-2018 12:12 AM)Banna Wrote:  

And re the 2nd. I sense where you'd be going its not simply our so called sexual prowess (mandingo) that'd make "posh white women" in Toronto want to be with a black man. They love black music/urban culture. We ain't rapping scary anti white establishment anthems like Fight the Power or Fuck tha Police anymore.

I'm sure the sexual prowess myth works on some women, though my guess is that the overall number is fairly low. So, that's not really what I'm referencing.

My sister is a thick girl who exclusively dates african men. We talk like guys about most things. She tells me that with some guys... the power dynamic is a huge turn-on. It's not all of the guys she dates, just the ones that put out a particular vibe. I will leave it at that.

(04-30-2018 12:12 AM)Banna Wrote:  

They don't even listen to or care for Rock n Roll anymore. The hottest white girls in Toronto...they don't worship Axl Rose or Kurt Cobain like 25 - 30 years ago or dream of NKOTB as kids . Unless they into 100% into EDM (which they aint) they all following whatever Drake/Migos/Weeknds latest trends.

So they are into gay guys? I mean answer me this who is more masculine Tupac or Drake?

The girls in Toronto like Drake because he is pretty much a white jew from Toronto... who can't rap. You come down here to Seattle and everybody is making fun of him like Justin Beiber 2.0. And the Weeknd... girls here don't like his music... the like his look.



What woman has not secretly dreamed of getting fucked hard by an Ewok?

(04-30-2018 12:12 AM)Banna Wrote:  

I laugh at a guy sitting here telling roosh non white races have a lesser success at beautiful white girls in Toronto whereas in Europe it's different.
Not my black ass....have had my fair share of them....and I started off real late in life with white girls....by choice. Black women never left me for wanting sexually.
Black women across this planet live just as much shameless slutty promiscuous lifestyles as white women.....without fear of cultural shaming or even death. At my H.S. 1/3 of the black girls there already had kids. Heck my crazy 78 year old aunt mothered 8 kids from 6 different father's and in both cases nobody was beheaded. Lol
No need for me/us to seek white women out because my own kind aren't putting out. I can go to at least 1/2 dozen primarily black venues in Toronto where our women are gyrating and acting the damned fool any Friday or Saturday of the year.
Heck I can annually travel to primarily black attended events like Trinidad or Bahia Brazil carnival. Or even stay Stateside with Essence music festival. In the 90s in Atlanta black women were doing all sorts of lewd things at Freaknik for cameras.
Whether or not whites existed black people would still be fucking like rabbits amongst each other....having kids outta wedlock, ....cheating....making all sorts of songs promoting raunchy behaviour.

In any area largely populated by white people.... black guys are going to do very well, just like Latin guys... other ethnicities too if they have enough game.

I assume you chase white girls in Toronto, because that's what there is. I mean if you are in a predominantly black area and you are only chasing white girls... that's a personal thing. Chasing them in Toronto is just good sense.

(04-30-2018 12:12 AM)Banna Wrote:  

White women don't have me by the balls....and no black man (I really wish all races of men) anywhere on the planet should need to feel that way. And white women in Toronto don't need us black guys either. They have a horde of successful well off attractive white men to keep them satisfied sexually.
We both more choose to be amongst each other sexually from time to time because we're both naturally promiscuous.
Now these other races/cultures primarily Indians/Arabs you see out here after white girls....where they gonna go to live a promiscuous lifestyle? They can't hop on a plane and run home to do so. There's no annual events they can flock to in droves for hedonistic behavior.
Just not in their bloodlines/cultures.
And they already not interested/prejudiced against black women so we don't count. I'm sure this newly arrived to Toronto Casa loser and his "3 so far notches in the city" damned sure ain't running to his own women for pussy. His ass isn't even welcome to set foot in the wealthier Arab states much less sniff any of their women.
So what are they left with? White women. Yeah they'll shame/kill their own women for dating the "wrong" guy, but white women supposed to accept their asses in droves while they themselves seek out the same EXACT thing they'll butcher their own women for? Yeah good luck with that lol.
Of course just be like Casa the Arab loser running from a province he couldn't game white women and try to "blend in" and distance yourself from your own kind as far as possible.
It's the few white women out there in T.O. (and when they travel to EE ) keeping their hopes of living a promiscuous life alive. They need white women like a newborn baby needs their umbilical cord.

I don't know. I'm just not that interested in white women. Maybe it's just a passing phase because I've had too many of them, but the more time I spend with women from other cultures, the less I ever want to go back.

[LexisNexis]

Banna, what are your Height and Weight ?

[DigitalNomad]

(05-01-2018 09:48 AM)LexisNexis Wrote:  

Banna, what are your Height and Weight ?

This is the kind of shit guys in Toronto think about way too much. Of my friends that do well in the city (20+ lays a year), all pretty average builds:

american 5'10" white -night game
canadian 5'8" white - online game
pakistani 5'10" - online game
swedish 5'9" - night game
pakistani 6'0" -day game
half chinese 6'0" night game
syrian 6'2"- night/online game
indian 5'9" night game
canadian 5'9" white- night game

What do they have in common? Basically all are entrepreneurs, don't throw their money around at clubs, spontaneous, pick up girls with normal conversations not with PUA scripts and RSD shit, and they fucking approach when they see something they like.

The type of game you need in Toronto would best be acquired by reading this Not saying other stuff doesn't work, but from my experience a genuine type of game goes over much better in Toronto than a fake douchey game.

Overall, I don't think looks/race don't matter as much here as other places. Girls are in the city meet so many people from different races I don't think it's as big of an issue as it is in other cities.

[Pointer]

The only positive thing that came out of Toronto was Mystery and the pick-up scene. It's a shitty version of New York where young people go to die working in boring corporate jobs and paying overpriced rents/mortgages. If you're not making big money and thinking about moving abroad then you're wasting time.
Are there any actual Canadians left in Vancouver ? The Chinese were on a crusade to buy the whole city 10 years ago.
I recently had to go back to Montreal for a week and couldn't wait to get out. The weather was fine but there was almost no talent on the streets. More gays, more tattooed freaks, fatties, Haitians, Arabs and Asians than ever but no attractive women in sight. The few people I still know there are all planning on moving out. One guy makes good money but the local population on the street he grew up on has been replaced by some sort of Pakistani tribe. Nobody works, instead they are multiplying like rabbits and they even flew in the grand parents along with the whole extended family. It's a no-go zone in the making, part of the cultural enrichment facilitated by generous social security benefits in a country that's becoming more and more communist.

[Captain Gh]

^ The Paki are not on the level of the Chinese... but they're creeping up there in term of Wealth! Paki / Arabs with the French connect are starting to run Mtl since it's dirt cheap compared to Toronto and Vancouver. Just Sayin! Oh they'll take the welfare income... but rest assured they probably ain't broke!

[Kaizen]

(05-01-2018 12:46 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 09:48 AM)LexisNexis Wrote:  

Banna, what are your Height and Weight ?

This is the kind of shit guys in Toronto think about way too much. Of my friends that do well in the city (20+ lays a year), all pretty average builds:

american 5'10" white -night game
canadian 5'8" white - online game
pakistani 5'10" - online game
swedish 5'9" - night game
pakistani 6'0" -day game
half chinese 6'0" night game
syrian 6'2"- night/online game
indian 5'9" night game
canadian 5'9" white- night game

What do they have in common? Basically all are entrepreneurs, don't throw their money around at clubs, spontaneous, pick up girls with normal conversations not with PUA scripts and RSD shit, and they fucking approach when they see something they like.

The type of game you need in Toronto would best be acquired by reading this Not saying other stuff doesn't work, but from my experience a genuine type of game goes over much better in Toronto than a fake douchey game.

Overall, I don't think looks/race don't matter as much here as other places. Girls are in the city meet so many people from different races I don't think it's as big of an issue as it is in other cities.

Right.

I know TO well.

I know the results of many ABOVE average friends in the looks and build department.

Based on that, If your average build friends are clocking 20+ bangs annually these girls must look like dog shit

Just sayin'

[Lermontov]

[EndsExpect]

(05-03-2018 06:51 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

Right.
I know TO well.
I know the results of many ABOVE average friends in the looks and build department.
Based on that, If your average build friends are clocking 20+ bangs annually these girls must look like dog shit
Just sayin'

One man's dog shit is another man's lunch. Maybe 2 years ago I was out in Toronto and met a chubby young woman that had tattoos on her tits. Now normally I see some stupid thing like angel wings or stars. Not this chick. She had a cheese grater tattooed on her left breast. A CHEESE GRATER! My friends... I'm sure Toronto has it's share of very attractive wonderful women. I would just consider it to be a bit eccentric.

[NewGamer]

Every thread I read on here about a city and its girls goes into very negative territory and race and complaining and woman bashing.

It's all about what you make of a city and your will. Everything else is just excuses and noise.

Don't complain.Do the work, work on yourself no matter where in the world you live and you will have a fulfilling life in all aspects.

[Ice Man]

(05-04-2018 04:00 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

It's all about what you make of a city and your will. Everything else is just excuses and noise.

Don't complain.Do the work, work on yourself no matter where in the world you live and you will have a fulfilling life in all aspects.

I'm all for positivity, and indeed the main factor in your success is you... but the above is just way too simplified and not true.

Some places suck for some people (or all people), even when doing everything they can. Place makes a huge difference in ones life.

For example, if I move to one of the many SE Asia filth dump cities with terrible air, terrible transport, sad and dumpy pussy, uncaring people, corruption + bureaucracy, I'm not going to have a "fulfilling life in all aspects" just from simply "making the most of it" and "working on myself". Almost all of the most import aspects that make up Quality of Life will be unsatisfactory and 100% out of my control.

You need at least some quality basics to work with, then, yes absolutely it's "what you make of it".

[NewGamer]

I was making a general statement about the tone and attitude I see on these threads. Not literally. Control what you can and leave the rest. Toronto is not a dump city when compared to other cities in Asia but people here still complain.

Complaining on this forum has become a way of life which was my larger point.

[Ice Man]

(05-04-2018 05:01 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Complaining on this forum has become a way of life which was my larger point.

Men these days don't have many outlets to vent their frustrations and worries, and they justifiably have a lot of them. It is only natural that we get some of that here, in one of the only places left men can speak freely. You certainly can't do it in real life in the West (especially places like Toronto ironically).

Of course the solution is to take all the action within your power, no doubt. But sometimes a guy needs somewhere to let it out. The forum was built on men talking about the issues and troubles dealing with modern day women, and that has simply expanded out to the larger societal issues.

Of course solution based discussions would always be best, but that's not always going to happen.

[NewGamer]

(05-04-2018 05:16 AM)Ice Man Wrote:  

(05-04-2018 05:01 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Complaining on this forum has become a way of life which was my larger point.

Of course solution based discussions would always be best, but that's not always going to happen.

I see more venting (90%) than solution based discussions. The forum should be about getting better at life not crying about your failures/problems. Real men find solutions, they don't go vent on a forum and complain. Go to your mom for comfort and venting if that is what you want to do. Not you per se just speaking generally.

[Banna]

(05-03-2018 06:51 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 12:46 PM)DigitalNomad Wrote:  

(05-01-2018 09:48 AM)LexisNexis Wrote:  

Banna, what are your Height and Weight ?

This is the kind of shit guys in Toronto think about way too much. Of my friends that do well in the city (20+ lays a year), all pretty average builds:

american 5'10" white -night game
canadian 5'8" white - online game
pakistani 5'10" - online game
swedish 5'9" - night game
pakistani 6'0" -day game
half chinese 6'0" night game
syrian 6'2"- night/online game
indian 5'9" night game
canadian 5'9" white- night game

What do they have in common? Basically all are entrepreneurs, don't throw their money around at clubs, spontaneous, pick up girls with normal conversations not with PUA scripts and RSD shit, and they fucking approach when they see something they like.

The type of game you need in Toronto would best be acquired by reading this Not saying other stuff doesn't work, but from my experience a genuine type of game goes over much better in Toronto than a fake douchey game.

Overall, I don't think looks/race don't matter as much here as other places. Girls are in the city meet so many people from different races I don't think it's as big of an issue as it is in other cities.

Right.

I know TO well.

I know the results of many ABOVE average friends in the looks and build department.

Based on that, If your average build friends are clocking 20+ bangs annually these girls must look like dog shit

Just sayin'

Pfft......rather than lays I am actually far more impressed by being able to find 20 odd women in a given calendar in Toronto to enjoy being in the company of for any significant amount of time or hear to talk/text. I can't even find 3.... Lol

That's remarkable!

Mind you I'm not living any sort of life that'd qualify me to look down on anyone or think I'm better than the next person. Or am some guy hard to talk with.

I had a woman roughly in my age bracket open me last week on a night out. We were kissing and all had my hand in her breasts. She actually looks good for her age.....even enough to contemplate the age bias I have. Told me we should hangout and she finds me hot.

For crying out loud and I mentioned it before in another thread about these single professional broads.....could not stop talking about her fucking damned pet dog! So "busy" (and these Toronto broads all love to yap about their hectic schedules) taking it for walks. Even sending me a picture on what's app of the little ugly shit. Has a sitter she has to drive him to.

After they've devoted the bulk of their work week to sucking cock in the corporate world they aren't that much interested in giving their best to a man. They are far more affectionate about their pets than men.

Even if I do fuck them from time to time....they are souless creatures that dont come across as women who care how they are perceived men. I have better Google translate pleasant convos with my former girls overseas than I do with these mostly bimbos here in English.

Only go for college/uni girls.....but make sure you're not a stubborn ass like me and be on point with your social media here. The flakiness is high here though. Or get girls newly arrived (I won't be as age biased here).....both of these types of girls are full of life and vitality and openness. Schools out and a lot are ready to unwind for the summee after a long year. My beloved Slovak that moved back home sadly had a feminine pleasant demeanor I won't hold my breath finding from any T.O. chick anytime soon.

25+ and into their careers.... pump n dump.....that is if you can stomach enough of their bratty asses to get that far in the first place. I personally will NOT look for anything more from them.

And even better don't be like my dumb ass spending much of your prime best 20s/30s with them divying up between you and their kids.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

This is not a race issue - immigration impacts a sexual market since most immigrants are men - young men. That is why the West is far worse than the developing countries or FSU, EE and Asia. Heck - even the Chinese lack of women is better than the sexual market in many Western cities due to cock-immigration, the fattening and feminism.

Toronto is reputed to be one of the toughest sexual markets for men on Earth. I know that folk say the same about wherever the bumfuck they are. It's no coincidence that Game developed in Toronto, Washington and London. It did not develop that much in New York, though London is probably the best out of the 3.

I would like to quote Roosh here. I personally haven't spent too much time in Canada recently, though I have plenty of family there:

Quote:

DEFCOCK 1
Complete absence of traditional sex roles. Institution of marriage reduced to farce. Severe threat of imprisonment for men displaying heterosexual or masculine behaviors. Roaming witch mobs actively surveil and monitor men who hint at having normal levels of testosterone. Women are elevated to goddess status while straight men appointed as their sexual servants through both legal action and media shaming.

Male safety level: Unsafe to live, fornicate, marry, or procreate; males must immediately vacate area for their own personal safety, both physical and mental

As much as many of you would like to apply DEFCOCK 1 levels to places like London, Washington DC, and Toronto, we are not quite there yet. The next five years will be critical to see if certain DEFCOCK 2 cities slide into DEFCOCK 1, which is absolutely unsuitable for male habitation. If I were to place bets, Toronto will be the first international city to enter DEFCOCK 1. This is likely to happen before 2023

.

Aside from the Defcock definitions there are as I mentioned 2 other factors for men:

1) Gender ratio for age group of 18-30 (this is heavily impacted by male immigration) - the government publishes some murky stats, but it's usually far worse than you think it is

2) The Fattening - in the West women are fatter than in the South and East. When 40% of all under 30yo women are fat, then the competition for the slim-fits gets far worse. In China most women are slim and the same goes for EE, FSU etc.

Those 2 factors make a world of difference. Indicators of a sane sexual market is the busted dude http://www.rooshv.com/the-busted-dudes-test

In the West it is the good-looking buff dude with the fattie test - in the better countries it is the nerdy young/fugly dude with the young 7-8 hottie. Walk around a city for a while and you know where the fuck you are. It's not rocket science if you are Game-aware at all and have been around the block.

[Ice Man]

(05-04-2018 07:44 AM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Real men find solutions, they don't go vent on a forum and complain. Go to your mom for comfort and venting if that is what you want to do. Not you per se just speaking generally.

I think this is misguided. Again, men face many, many issues these days and have basically no outlets in real life to discuss the issues, often times not even your friends because most dudes are still blue pill. You are saying "shut up I don't want to hear it", blocking yet another path.

We are here to help each other and discuss our problems. A lot of times this will be "complaining" or "venting". Telling guys to "go to your mom" for comfort is how we end up with elliot rogers of the world.

Most threads are full of honest guys talking about issues, and what can be done. Some things will be bitched about, again, guys don't get to say these things elsewhere. Most of the time there is great advice.

[Kaizen]

Its hard for me to take seriously a guy that goes to Pattaya and says he met 5 marriage material girls his first week.

Similarly, I can't help but laugh at someone claiming 9 of his average looking buds are banging 20+ broads annually in the dot. Its bullshit.

Cuz im a hater and lazy? No...if I think of the 5 best players (game, looks, build) in my circle, not sure even one has hit 20+ girls in the last 5 years.

So shit don't add up.

The effort to reward ratio in the dot is likely the worst Ive seen. That doesn't mean go MGTOW and wallow in misery. Approach and Approach some more.

Just know the game is a bit rigged here and don't listen to anyone proclaiming the dynamics in this politically correct Mecca are anything but normal.

Most mens frustrations here can be solved by boarding a plane, not by fixing any 'inner game' issues.

[rudebwoy]

The immigration we get in Toronto, is usually families from Asia and the Middle East.

These people don't effect me in any way, most of them are too busy running their own businesses and working overtime to impact the social scene. The average Toronto girl isn't going to date a new immigrant from these countries. I even worked with a buffed Indian dude who had an accent, he was tall and decent looking. He complained that Canadian-indian girls didn't want to date him because of his accent.

Since the job market is so crappy in Toronto, despite what the media says. Many of these immigrants are heading out west to Alberta and Saskatchewan for better paying jobs and cheaper housing. They don't have any ties to Toronto, like some of us.

So can we kindly keep the immigration subject out of this thread.

Now the real problem is that there aren't that many hot girls to begin with.
Most young girls will ruin their bodies with ghastly tattoos, those stupid earrings that stretch out their earlobes or some haircut that makes them look like a feminist.
The other problem, is that there are many young girls whoring themselves out. They either strip, work in massage parlours or straight out ho undercover.

I have worked for a few big corporations, they always seem to have women (usually white) who get paid for doing jackshit. At my current gig, there is this one girl who is in her early 30s. I don't know what she does but she makes enough to be able to own her own house in the burbs, drive a car and take her stupid dog to daycare during the week.
As Banna stated, there are many of these stupid girls who treat their dogs like small children. Then they reach an age and start to wander why they cannot land a man.

I could go on about these useless chicks, but whining and complaining is what bitches do.

Toronto is a niche city, you better find the right niche or you will starve. I have friends who tell me about crossfit gyms and how they are loaded with chicks. Another buddy is into the whole Kizumba dance scene and does well.

I personally like the city, sure it ain't like Stockholm, Budapest, Oslo or London. But not many places are, but can we please stop with the comparisons to NYC. For those complaining about Toronto housing/rentals, maybe you should take a look at rent prices in NYC.

[Banna]

(05-04-2018 10:42 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

Its hard for me to take seriously a guy that goes to Pattaya and says he met 5 marriage material girls his first week.

Similarly, I can't help but laugh at someone claiming 9 of his average looking buds are banging 20+ broads annually in the dot. Its bullshit.

Cuz im a hater and lazy? No...if I think of the 5 best players (game, looks, build) in my circle, not sure even one has hit 20+ girls in the last 5 years.

So shit don't add up.

The effort to reward ratio in the dot is likely the worst Ive seen. That doesn't mean go MGTOW and wallow in misery. Approach and Approach some more.

Just know the game is a bit rigged here and don't listen to anyone proclaiming the dynamics in this politically correct Mecca are anything but normal.

Most mens frustrations here can be solved by boarding a plane, not by fixing any 'inner game' issues.

The first bolded part I quoted. In terms of lays I won't attempt to fuck any girl I'd consider anything less than a "7" in looks so for me there's 0 hope of myself being capable of these kind of #s in Toronto. At my age and the wide age disparity between me and the girls I try to open, I'll just have to be content with getting lucky every now and then, lol.

I go out often and fortunately for me, whether I meet a girl or not on a night out I naturally enjoy partying/music/dancing If I went out chiefly to pick up girls and wasn't a party type guy I'd be depressed.

I'm not going to call someone a liar, if they say their friends are pulling such #s then good for them. If a guy is pulling what I'd deem to be 7s and up on the regular all I can say is: "WOW!"

And I'll reiterate.....these Toronto broads to me mostly have offsetting personas to hear talk to/text or be in the company of for any significant time. Most of them let the rabbit out the hat the moment they open their mouths and add their flakiness into the equation and it's a bad mix.

I'd probably have a higher chance of getting 20 notches than finding 20 enjoyable women to be around or hear talk in Toronto. Right now I have a grand total of 1 female friend in this city I'd consider a joy to be around and communicate with regularly....and she definitely wasn't born here.

I have 1 friend pulling such #s annually in Toronto when he used to spend the bulk of his time here.....and I can vouch for it given just hanging with him has led to banging some of these girls' friends. I'll give him a +1 for pulling high #s, but also banging generally hot looking to me girls....not uglier girls just for the sake of having someone to sleep with.

But maaaan does he ever put an (imo) insane amount of effort to upkeep this playboy image they'll gravitate towards. Updating his IG/FB/Tinder daily. And one of the few Torontonians living on a pimped out property adjacent to 2 Entertainment district nightclubs doesn't hurt either.

Now DN did somewhat allude to a point, you can't live a conventional lifestyle and some 40-50 hr corporate work week and expect to live a playboy life here. You gotta have some location independent life or a job that affords long durations of time off and freedom to yourself.

[NewGamer]

And back we are to the same old complaining haha which proves my point. Bowing out of this thread. Good luck guys. Maybe I'll see you out on the streets of Toronto.

[Sidney Crosby]

I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that DG's friends bang 20 chicks a year, it all depends on their lifestyle. If they are going out a couple nights a week and using online you can't tell me that 1.5 girls a month is out of reach and if it is, remind me to never go to Toronto.

[Ice Man]

Can someone explain why gasoline is nearly $8/gallon in Vancouver? Toronto isn't far behind. I read mention of taxes, but other article said it is because of the "supply chain"?? This makes zero sense. There is a glut of oil in North America, a shit ton in Canada etc. From a quick google the average in the USA right now is $2.66/gallon. In Bellingham WA, just across the border from Van, it is $3.08/gallon.

Between all the taxes and insane cost of just basic needs how do the non-wealthy have a decent life in one of the Canadian metropolises?

[scotian]

^One reason is that nearly all of the major oil refineries in Alberta are shut down for maintenance right now. Its pretty crazy how much work is going on, I spoke to a crane operator and they’re flying guys in from the US, EU and Australia because its so busy.

Still, Canadians get fucked bad and PM Peoplekind’s new carbon tax certainly isn’t helping.