I tripped up about a week ago, people kept offering me snacks that I couldn't turn down in polite company. Really wanted to avoid that.
Been on it since then, no sugar whatsoever.
Been on it since then, no sugar whatsoever.
Quote: (05-21-2018 02:44 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:
^ I'm by no mean a Vegan, but a Vegan Diet seriously helps with the skin, and even me Mr. Chicken can't deny it. If I had skin issues, I would no doubt do a few Vegan cycles to clear it out. If meat cutting is a No No for you, at least consider cutting out Dairy for a bit. I suggest you try it out, especially the Dairy part
Quote: (05-25-2018 08:44 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:
This won't be easy Rudebwoy, but if you incorporate some high quality fats such as Raw Almonds or Brazilian Nuts, along with organic Quinoa & vegetables, you won't blow up & eat to much while your body's adjusting to this diet change. However these items are expensive as fuck!
A less expensive alternative would be to buy conventional grains such as Brown or Red Rice, Wheat (of it doesn't blow you up) and incorporate some form of Intermittent or Dry Fasting.
Hopefully you're ok with Eggs because Egg White will become your Best Friends while you're adjusting. 72 Grams total of tasteless protein for barely $3 will help you get full but not feel bloated.
Quote: (05-26-2018 09:50 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Seems like low carb is the way to go, how the hell do you control that hunger?
Quote: (04-01-2018 01:48 PM)Georges89 Wrote:
Quote: (03-31-2018 08:42 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:
I have been quite the substance abuser for most of my adult life.
A few years ago, I was drinking massive amounts of alcohol, red bull and coffee and smoking massive amounts of cigarettes and weed. All at the same time.
Gradually, I have been taking care of every single one of them.
A few years ago I quit smoking weed.
About two years ago, I finally got rid of the damn red bulls (that shit truly is the devil and should be the very first thing you get rid of, including other pops like coke).
Then, what I thought would be the hardest one was actually the easiest: I quit smoking cigarettes after 12 years of massive consumption.
But what I didn't realize was that after quitting each of those, consumption of the others just went up and up. As if my brain was saying "at least give me SOMETHING dude!"
So after cutting out weed, sugar and nicotine, my alcohol consumption gradually got out of hand, as did my coffee consumption. Alcohol every night and at least 6 cups of coffee a day.
I've been a lurker on this forum for a very long time, and the reason I finally registered was to take care of the most problematic one of them all: I wanted to face my alcohol problems and participate in the drinking wagon thread.
So far, I have managed to not drink alcohol for almost 3 months. But guess what happened in the meantime? The only thing I still had left, caffeine, wasn't enough anymore. I started eating sugar again!
No red bulls, I simply refuse the stuff now, but I do find myself eating ice cream, chocolate and all kinds of that nasty processed stuff way too often.
I don't want to derail this thread to a personal journal and maybe this even warrants its own thread, but my body just seems to always need SOMETHING. It drives me insane.
It's almost as if someone else controls my body when I do it. I am aware of the fact that I am walking into a store to grab chocolate and other sweets. I am also aware of the fact that I shouldn't do it. But it doesn't stop me.
Then when I'm back home eating it, part of me feels completely disgusted while doing it and another part of me feels in heaven.
I am already half way dealing with my caffeine problem, but I am also in on this one. Time to get serious, no more sugars.
WW, wow, you hit the nail on the head. I have this exact same issue. I quit smoking 2.5 years ago, I quit drugs, over a year ago. I quit booze for the last six months. I've even cut out coffee (apart from occasional decaff - it turns out my body is ultra sensitive to coffee for some reason.) I guess we should both give ourselves a pat on the back.
But certainly for people such as us, who have so-called 'addictive-personalities' for want of a better phrase, that need for a dopamine release transpires elsehwhere.
So diet has become the next area where my addiction has 'sprouted'.
I feel I'm at the final leg of getting my well-being and health really together. Its a long fucking journey. After quitting the chemicals (minus tea) I thought everything was going to be much easier. But I realised diet has a much bigger effect than I could have ever realised. The chemicals/alcohol can make you feel really shit..But the food is the difference between feeling so so everyday, and thriving.
Quote: (05-26-2018 09:50 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:
Quote: (05-25-2018 08:44 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:
This won't be easy Rudebwoy, but if you incorporate some high quality fats such as Raw Almonds or Brazilian Nuts, along with organic Quinoa & vegetables, you won't blow up & eat to much while your body's adjusting to this diet change. However these items are expensive as fuck!
A less expensive alternative would be to buy conventional grains such as Brown or Red Rice, Wheat (of it doesn't blow you up) and incorporate some form of Intermittent or Dry Fasting.
Hopefully you're ok with Eggs because Egg White will become your Best Friends while you're adjusting. 72 Grams total of tasteless protein for barely $3 will help you get full but not feel bloated.
I don't really like raw almonds or Brazilian nuts, the oil on them doesn't agree with me.
Dairy is something I don't mess about with either, haven't had eggs in along time. I use to cook a lot of egg whites back in the day, perhaps I might get back into it as a breakfast choice.
The protein thing is something I don't really follow or believe in.
Seems like low carb is the way to go, how the hell do you control that hunger?
Fasting is something I am all about, on weekends I do 20 hour fasts and I want to build up to longer durations.
Quote: (05-26-2018 11:12 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
Quote: (04-01-2018 01:48 PM)Georges89 Wrote:
Quote: (03-31-2018 08:42 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:
I have been quite the substance abuser for most of my adult life.
A few years ago, I was drinking massive amounts of alcohol, red bull and coffee and smoking massive amounts of cigarettes and weed. All at the same time.
Gradually, I have been taking care of every single one of them.
A few years ago I quit smoking weed.
About two years ago, I finally got rid of the damn red bulls (that shit truly is the devil and should be the very first thing you get rid of, including other pops like coke).
Then, what I thought would be the hardest one was actually the easiest: I quit smoking cigarettes after 12 years of massive consumption.
But what I didn't realize was that after quitting each of those, consumption of the others just went up and up. As if my brain was saying "at least give me SOMETHING dude!"
So after cutting out weed, sugar and nicotine, my alcohol consumption gradually got out of hand, as did my coffee consumption. Alcohol every night and at least 6 cups of coffee a day.
I've been a lurker on this forum for a very long time, and the reason I finally registered was to take care of the most problematic one of them all: I wanted to face my alcohol problems and participate in the drinking wagon thread.
So far, I have managed to not drink alcohol for almost 3 months. But guess what happened in the meantime? The only thing I still had left, caffeine, wasn't enough anymore. I started eating sugar again!
No red bulls, I simply refuse the stuff now, but I do find myself eating ice cream, chocolate and all kinds of that nasty processed stuff way too often.
I don't want to derail this thread to a personal journal and maybe this even warrants its own thread, but my body just seems to always need SOMETHING. It drives me insane.
It's almost as if someone else controls my body when I do it. I am aware of the fact that I am walking into a store to grab chocolate and other sweets. I am also aware of the fact that I shouldn't do it. But it doesn't stop me.
Then when I'm back home eating it, part of me feels completely disgusted while doing it and another part of me feels in heaven.
I am already half way dealing with my caffeine problem, but I am also in on this one. Time to get serious, no more sugars.
WW, wow, you hit the nail on the head. I have this exact same issue. I quit smoking 2.5 years ago, I quit drugs, over a year ago. I quit booze for the last six months. I've even cut out coffee (apart from occasional decaff - it turns out my body is ultra sensitive to coffee for some reason.) I guess we should both give ourselves a pat on the back.
But certainly for people such as us, who have so-called 'addictive-personalities' for want of a better phrase, that need for a dopamine release transpires elsehwhere.
So diet has become the next area where my addiction has 'sprouted'.
I feel I'm at the final leg of getting my well-being and health really together. Its a long fucking journey. After quitting the chemicals (minus tea) I thought everything was going to be much easier. But I realised diet has a much bigger effect than I could have ever realised. The chemicals/alcohol can make you feel really shit..But the food is the difference between feeling so so everyday, and thriving.
I have maintained a very low carb / high fat / no artificial sweeteners / highly reduced (usually zero) processed food diet for several years now, and as a result "lost" 25% of my weight (started at BMI = 28 and now 21), diabetes type 2, and frequent headaches. On top of that, my energy level is higher than it was and much more stable. But I have always consumed a lot of caffeine and I have zero intention of reducing that. What problems does caffeine consumption cause you?
Quote: (05-21-2018 12:18 AM)zanetti Wrote:
For the last 2 weeks I've been on a no gluten, no sweets/processed foods, no alcohol diet. .... I'm hoping changing my diet will help me with some chronic skin/bladder/prostate issues I've been having.
Quote: (05-26-2018 12:36 PM)Piecoon Wrote:
I firmly believe in NO WORKING OUT while trying to shed fat weight. You will be changing your diet significantly. Burning extra calories in anyway requires you to replace them. Changing your diet is hard enough, you will only make this harder by increasing the amount of calories you need to consume daily.
Your diet has 100% to do with fat loss/gain. Working out has wonderful benefits and I love to work out, but will not help with fat loss.
Quote: (05-27-2018 06:45 AM)Ski pro Wrote:
Quote: (05-26-2018 11:12 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
Quote: (04-01-2018 01:48 PM)Georges89 Wrote:
Quote: (03-31-2018 08:42 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:
I have been quite the substance abuser for most of my adult life.
A few years ago, I was drinking massive amounts of alcohol, red bull and coffee and smoking massive amounts of cigarettes and weed. All at the same time.
Gradually, I have been taking care of every single one of them.
A few years ago I quit smoking weed.
About two years ago, I finally got rid of the damn red bulls (that shit truly is the devil and should be the very first thing you get rid of, including other pops like coke).
Then, what I thought would be the hardest one was actually the easiest: I quit smoking cigarettes after 12 years of massive consumption.
But what I didn't realize was that after quitting each of those, consumption of the others just went up and up. As if my brain was saying "at least give me SOMETHING dude!"
So after cutting out weed, sugar and nicotine, my alcohol consumption gradually got out of hand, as did my coffee consumption. Alcohol every night and at least 6 cups of coffee a day.
I've been a lurker on this forum for a very long time, and the reason I finally registered was to take care of the most problematic one of them all: I wanted to face my alcohol problems and participate in the drinking wagon thread.
So far, I have managed to not drink alcohol for almost 3 months. But guess what happened in the meantime? The only thing I still had left, caffeine, wasn't enough anymore. I started eating sugar again!
No red bulls, I simply refuse the stuff now, but I do find myself eating ice cream, chocolate and all kinds of that nasty processed stuff way too often.
I don't want to derail this thread to a personal journal and maybe this even warrants its own thread, but my body just seems to always need SOMETHING. It drives me insane.
It's almost as if someone else controls my body when I do it. I am aware of the fact that I am walking into a store to grab chocolate and other sweets. I am also aware of the fact that I shouldn't do it. But it doesn't stop me.
Then when I'm back home eating it, part of me feels completely disgusted while doing it and another part of me feels in heaven.
I am already half way dealing with my caffeine problem, but I am also in on this one. Time to get serious, no more sugars.
WW, wow, you hit the nail on the head. I have this exact same issue. I quit smoking 2.5 years ago, I quit drugs, over a year ago. I quit booze for the last six months. I've even cut out coffee (apart from occasional decaff - it turns out my body is ultra sensitive to coffee for some reason.) I guess we should both give ourselves a pat on the back.
But certainly for people such as us, who have so-called 'addictive-personalities' for want of a better phrase, that need for a dopamine release transpires elsehwhere.
So diet has become the next area where my addiction has 'sprouted'.
I feel I'm at the final leg of getting my well-being and health really together. Its a long fucking journey. After quitting the chemicals (minus tea) I thought everything was going to be much easier. But I realised diet has a much bigger effect than I could have ever realised. The chemicals/alcohol can make you feel really shit..But the food is the difference between feeling so so everyday, and thriving.
I have maintained a very low carb / high fat / no artificial sweeteners / highly reduced (usually zero) processed food diet for several years now, and as a result "lost" 25% of my weight (started at BMI = 28 and now 21), diabetes type 2, and frequent headaches. On top of that, my energy level is higher than it was and much more stable. But I have always consumed a lot of caffeine and I have zero intention of reducing that. What problems does caffeine consumption cause you?
I completely quit all caffeine around two years ago, made. A massive difference to my life. Natural energy and rythme restored,I jump out of the bed in the or I gotta ready to go, no need for the coffee crutch to get me going.
I also use to get terrible headaches hat entail the way down the back of my neck, I thought that was alcohol but turns out it was Caffine related. It’s like your whole nervous system is constantly on edge if you have too much caffeine in your system, you are exhausting your fight or flight mechanism.
Caffeine only takes 24-48 hours to leave your system, try no caffeine for week and see how you get on
Quote: (05-27-2018 07:39 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
Quote: (05-27-2018 06:45 AM)Ski pro Wrote:
Quote: (05-26-2018 11:12 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
Quote: (04-01-2018 01:48 PM)Georges89 Wrote:
Quote: (03-31-2018 08:42 PM)Winston Wolfe Wrote:
I have been quite the substance abuser for most of my adult life.
A few years ago, I was drinking massive amounts of alcohol, red bull and coffee and smoking massive amounts of cigarettes and weed. All at the same time.
Gradually, I have been taking care of every single one of them.
A few years ago I quit smoking weed.
About two years ago, I finally got rid of the damn red bulls (that shit truly is the devil and should be the very first thing you get rid of, including other pops like coke).
Then, what I thought would be the hardest one was actually the easiest: I quit smoking cigarettes after 12 years of massive consumption.
But what I didn't realize was that after quitting each of those, consumption of the others just went up and up. As if my brain was saying "at least give me SOMETHING dude!"
So after cutting out weed, sugar and nicotine, my alcohol consumption gradually got out of hand, as did my coffee consumption. Alcohol every night and at least 6 cups of coffee a day.
I've been a lurker on this forum for a very long time, and the reason I finally registered was to take care of the most problematic one of them all: I wanted to face my alcohol problems and participate in the drinking wagon thread.
So far, I have managed to not drink alcohol for almost 3 months. But guess what happened in the meantime? The only thing I still had left, caffeine, wasn't enough anymore. I started eating sugar again!
No red bulls, I simply refuse the stuff now, but I do find myself eating ice cream, chocolate and all kinds of that nasty processed stuff way too often.
I don't want to derail this thread to a personal journal and maybe this even warrants its own thread, but my body just seems to always need SOMETHING. It drives me insane.
It's almost as if someone else controls my body when I do it. I am aware of the fact that I am walking into a store to grab chocolate and other sweets. I am also aware of the fact that I shouldn't do it. But it doesn't stop me.
Then when I'm back home eating it, part of me feels completely disgusted while doing it and another part of me feels in heaven.
I am already half way dealing with my caffeine problem, but I am also in on this one. Time to get serious, no more sugars.
WW, wow, you hit the nail on the head. I have this exact same issue. I quit smoking 2.5 years ago, I quit drugs, over a year ago. I quit booze for the last six months. I've even cut out coffee (apart from occasional decaff - it turns out my body is ultra sensitive to coffee for some reason.) I guess we should both give ourselves a pat on the back.
But certainly for people such as us, who have so-called 'addictive-personalities' for want of a better phrase, that need for a dopamine release transpires elsehwhere.
So diet has become the next area where my addiction has 'sprouted'.
I feel I'm at the final leg of getting my well-being and health really together. Its a long fucking journey. After quitting the chemicals (minus tea) I thought everything was going to be much easier. But I realised diet has a much bigger effect than I could have ever realised. The chemicals/alcohol can make you feel really shit..But the food is the difference between feeling so so everyday, and thriving.
I have maintained a very low carb / high fat / no artificial sweeteners / highly reduced (usually zero) processed food diet for several years now, and as a result "lost" 25% of my weight (started at BMI = 28 and now 21), diabetes type 2, and frequent headaches. On top of that, my energy level is higher than it was and much more stable. But I have always consumed a lot of caffeine and I have zero intention of reducing that. What problems does caffeine consumption cause you?
I completely quit all caffeine around two years ago, made. A massive difference to my life. Natural energy and rythme restored,I jump out of the bed in the or I gotta ready to go, no need for the coffee crutch to get me going.
I also use to get terrible headaches hat entail the way down the back of my neck, I thought that was alcohol but turns out it was Caffine related. It’s like your whole nervous system is constantly on edge if you have too much caffeine in your system, you are exhausting your fight or flight mechanism.
Caffeine only takes 24-48 hours to leave your system, try no caffeine for week and see how you get on
I think this is a case demonstrating the YMWV principle. I have skipped coffee for longer than two days in the past--I am not physiologically addicted to it, I just like it. But more relevant and important here, ever since switching to low carb / high fat, my energy levels have been stable all day (before and after my morning coffee) and I have no headaches.
Quote: (05-27-2018 09:22 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
@Spaniard88: You forgot to say "I'm a little bitch, I ate junk food today." In your original post you promised to do that if you fall off the wagon. Why do I remember? Because it was the only reason I didn't like that first post. In other words, if I were you I might have forgotten that part too. Otherwise, a great post and therefore a great thread, thank you for it.
More seriously, regarding caffeine, I can only say again: YMWV. Does it make you haggard and age prematurely? I don't know but I never tried to combine my caffeine habit with any degree of alcoholism; that is, I never consume more than a standard drink and even that much far from every day. Some weeks I go without any alcohol at all. But I do stop the coffee intake a couple hours before my bedtime. My wife--we are abusing caffeine together, happily--doesn't hesitate to drink coffee late at night and sleeps like a stone. Yet another indication that YMWV.
Quote: (05-28-2018 07:40 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:
Quote: (05-27-2018 09:22 PM)Gray Beard Wrote:
@Spaniard88: You forgot to say "I'm a little bitch, I ate junk food today." In your original post you promised to do that if you fall off the wagon. Why do I remember? Because it was the only reason I didn't like that first post. In other words, if I were you I might have forgotten that part too. Otherwise, a great post and therefore a great thread, thank you for it.
More seriously, regarding caffeine, I can only say again: YMWV. Does it make you haggard and age prematurely? I don't know but I never tried to combine my caffeine habit with any degree of alcoholism; that is, I never consume more than a standard drink and even that much far from every day. Some weeks I go without any alcohol at all. But I do stop the coffee intake a couple hours before my bedtime. My wife--we are abusing caffeine together, happily--doesn't hesitate to drink coffee late at night and sleeps like a stone. Yet another indication that YMWV.
I did say that, man.
Look, scroll up, I didn't forget.
Also, I'll add I'm the only one so far on the thread that has done it.
But since I went off the wagon (this was some serious off-the-wagon shit), I wasn't going to clog up the forum every day after with all the ice cream I was eating...6 or 7 days straight of falling off the wagon.
I'm back on it, though, as of yesterday.
Also, I specifically said "I'm not saying anyone is addicted," so I wasn't (and I'm still not), saying you're addicted. It's all good, I only made the comment to help other people, not to poke at you.
All good, glad you're enjoying the thread, hope it helps folks.