[nola]

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Well that's kind of what the forum is.

The RVF was one of the last right wing groups that used to loosely be affiliated with the alt-right to normalise the JQ to some degree. Most of us came here thinking it was nonsense but the numbers rack up pretty quickly, as do the roll calls on most progressive organisations, so no, it's not nonsense. The forum has undertaken a very painful process of red-pilling ourselves on that issue.

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

Your response/post falls in to the inarguable debate class in my opinion. Thus I agree with everything you wrote.

But why polarize people that might also agree with you.? I'm half Jewish and my father is a Christian Oblate that married a Jewish woman. I went to war to fight the Islamic extremist. I was 17 when 9/11 happened. When I got to college I joined NROTC and got so antsy I said fuck NROTC and enlisted. My half Jewish ass got shot not once but twice for the West. That's right I went back for more after because I'm a Zionist shill.

My Jewish side of the family served in the US Military in Panama and Vietnam. My Uncle was the XO of the Independence during Vietnam and cousins both US Navy F4 Pilots napalmed commies in nam. One received the Distinguished Flying Cross twice. Or their father and uncle who was an officer on the the Yorktown when it sank the other rand a DSV (Dive Support Vessel) both became flag officers one lower rear and one a upper rear Admiral. All were Jewish Americans.

Look it's fucking a stupid point to make. Many Jews are on the right side of politics and we don't support the stupid shit the many reformist Jews support. But to throw an entire group of people into to group like they are some asset class is a fools debate.

Go over and tell Massad in Tel Aviv your generalizations, they are a pretty apolitical group that couldn't give a fuck what the public or politicians think about shit all they want to do is pick up arms and kill anything that threatens your and I's freedom to debate.

[nola]

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Well that's kind of what the forum is.

The RVF was one of the last right wing groups that used to loosely be affiliated with the alt-right to normalise the JQ to some degree. Most of us came here thinking it was nonsense but the numbers rack up pretty quickly, as do the roll calls on most progressive organisations, so no, it's not nonsense. The forum has undertaken a very painful process of red-pilling ourselves on that issue.

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

Your response/post falls into the inarguable debate class in my opinion. Thus I agree with everything you wrote. I also like many of your post in general.

But why polarize people that might also agree with you.? I'm half Jewish and my father is a Christian Oblate that married a Jewish woman. I went to war to fight the Islamic extremist. I was 17 when 9/11 happened. When I got to college I joined NROTC and got so antsy I said fuck NROTC and enlisted. My half Jewish ass got shot not once but twice for the West. That's right I went back for more after because I'm a Zionist shill.

My Jewish side of the family served in the US Military in Panama and Vietnam. My Uncle was the XO of the Independence during Vietnam and cousins both US Navy F4 Pilots napalmed commies in nam. One received the Distinguished Flying Cross twice. Or their father and uncle who was an officer on the the Yorktown when it sank the other ran a DSV (Dive Support Vessel) both became flag officers one lower rear and one a upper rear Admiral. All were Jewish Americans.

Look it's fucking a stupid point to make. Many Jews are on the right side of politics and we don't support the stupid shit the many reformist Jews support. But to throw an entire group of people into a bucket like they are some asset class is a fools debate.

Go over and tell Massad in Tel Aviv your generalizations, they are a pretty apolitical group that couldn't give a fuck what the public or politicians think about shit as all they want to do is pick up arms and kill anything that threatens your and I's freedom to debate.

I'm not defending the reformist side of my mothers genetics. But I can sure as shit say none that I met ever undermined western culture. In fact, I battle my liberal Jewish family members and actively attempt to redpill as many of the younger ones as possible.

We do have an active culture war in the Jewish community. It's fucking intense actually. So I'll give you some talking points there at least.

[superiorClimber]

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

What organizations are you talking about? This is as broad a generalization as one can make - yet you are still claiming to not be anti-Semitic. Name two of these organizations beyond AIPAC. I'm betting you can't back up this assertion. Why would Jews undermine "Western culture" when they've been so successful for so long under it's protection?

[kamoz]

Nola. - you’re using the classic liberal argument of “my friends/family/people I know are _____ therefore _____ so your generalizations are wrong.” You’re a smart guy and in the early stages. I foresee a massive red pill in your future.

Superiorclimber - I foresee no redpills in your future. Also your username is racist. Now go repent on the liberal altar for not only looking at this forbidden forum but posting on it. That and your racist username. You racist.

you deleted it! But I saw it!

[Simeon_Strangelight]

My solution to any military support would be much more simple:

Station massive constant US and NATO forces around Israel's borders and keep them there. In return clamp down on Soros and other Jewish organizations which are advocating for example for open borders in countries like France or Sweden while knowing full well that everyday Jews will have to leave those countries if the Islamization continues. But maybe those are their goals as well - who knows.

In any case the globalist organizations have been busy in the West in the 18th and 19th centuries long before Jews could even join country clubs or be accepted at Yale in many fraternities. The plans have been busy within the British empire and other entities. Heck - there were even Jews serving in Hitler's SS and Wehrmacht. History is far more murky and convoluted than it seems.

My solution would take away the impetus of a lot of the reform Jews. "Why worry about Iran or Syria? We are having entire tank divisions and our military at your borders. Anyone firing at you is firing at us - and we will destroy them together. So live and let live and let the Muslims deal with their shit. Sooner or later they will have to realize whether to live in the Middle Ages in a 40-60% inbred violent society or whether to move forward."

But nothing of that sort will happen - that is not how the globalists work and act. I expect the crap around Syria to continue and then the focus move against Iran. And one day afterwards the war machine will move against Saudi Arabia and destroy that wonderful greatest ally. We may all want something else or have different solutions, but it's not up to us.

[nola]

(05-13-2018 02:43 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

Nola. - you’re using the classic liberal argument of “my friends/family/people I know are _____ therefore _____ so your generalizations are wrong.” You’re a smart guy and in the early stages. I foresee a massive red pill in your future.

Okay (fair enough) stand your ground then and make an argument and I'll not use myself or family.

Who will you use to substantiate your argument? Non friends and family you agree with? How is that any different from sources you agree with?

write it out... I'm curious

Also I know superiorClimber and friends with him in person. I saw the "it's racist argument bullshit as well" he should know better than that. I've been redpilling him but apparently not very well. Give him a break he's new to this and grew up with a beta father and overbearing mother.

[nomadbrah]

What is a reform jew?

Is Sheldon Adelson a reform jew?

Harvey Weinstein?

Levi Trotsky?

Henry Kissinger?

[nola]

(05-13-2018 02:43 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

Nola. - you’re using the classic liberal argument of “my friends/family/people I know are _____ therefore _____ so your generalizations are wrong.” You’re a smart guy and in the early stages. I foresee a massive red pill in your future.

Superiorclimber - I foresee no redpills in your future. Also your username is racist. Now go repent on the liberal altar for not only looking at this forbidden forum but posting on it. That and your racist username. You racist.

you deleted it! But I saw it!

Generalizations are always wrong. Period, I foresee lot's of pills in your future.

[superiorClimber]

(05-13-2018 03:52 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

What is a reform jew?

Is Sheldon Adelson a reform jew?

Harvey Weinstein?

Levi Trotsky?

Henry Kissinger?

I have no idea what sect of Judaism each of these individuals identify with, or if they identify as Jewish in any way at all. I will offer some idea of what the world of Judaism looks like across the different denominations.

A Reform Jew is one, according to their website, who "asserts that a Judaism frozen in time cannot coexist effectively with those who live in modern times."
They roughly believe their Jewish belief system should be in line with a life of acceptance into their society and culture. These could be described as taking a liberal, and more flexible, interpretation of biblical teachings and laws in order to better conform to the surrounding culture. Interesting enough, Reform Judaism was founded by German Jews in New York before the rise of Hitler.

Conservative Jews, again according to their website, stands for "substantial engagement with Judaism as it has long been taught and practiced, along with equally full engagement with the society and culture of which Jews are now a full part." They could roughly be described as taking a more balanced stance of holding onto tradition while connecting with the modern world. You could probably describe this as moderate.

Orthodox Jews become much harder to categorize as there are more moderate perspectives - often called "Modern Orthodox" - to much more extreme versions - "Chabad" or "Black Hat". They will isolate from modern societies more than the other denominations, and will be less likely to interact with non-jews in business and daily life. They will forbid their daughters from physically interacting with men, force their sons to remain in religious education until adulthood, and are unyielding in their beliefs and behaviors in order to fit into a modern society.

This doesn't even touch on what are called "Reconstructionist" Jews, or the many different categories of ultra-orthodox that can be found in Israel and the US. This is a broad range of perspectives, and trying to pin down the individuals you mentioned into one of these categories is to push a very individualistic and deeply personal question. From my understanding, Sheldon Adelson is more religious than the "Reform Jews". I have no knowledge about the rest of those people, and don't believe that matters anymore than asking what kind of a Christian Donald Trump or Mitch McConnell are. It has no relevance to how they handle themselves.

[blck]

(05-13-2018 02:32 PM)superiorClimber Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

What organizations are you talking about? This is as broad a generalization as one can make - yet you are still claiming to not be anti-Semitic. Name two of these organizations beyond AIPAC. I'm betting you can't back up this assertion. Why would Jews undermine "Western culture" when they've been so successful for so long under it's protection?

1) Racist/Anti Semit is good, it mean that you still hold your race/country in high value.
2) Jews undermines every societies they're in that's how they are, the campaign against whites is only one of the thousands of clues you'll find on them.

Never forget:

Go get redpilled on /POL/ and then come back.

[PharaohRa]

(05-13-2018 05:31 PM)blck Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 02:32 PM)superiorClimber Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

What organizations are you talking about? This is as broad a generalization as one can make - yet you are still claiming to not be anti-Semitic. Name two of these organizations beyond AIPAC. I'm betting you can't back up this assertion. Why would Jews undermine "Western culture" when they've been so successful for so long under it's protection?

1) Racist/Anti Semit is good, it mean that you still hold your race/country in high value.
2) Jews undermines every societies they're in that's how they are, the campaign against whites is only one of the thousands of clues you'll find on them.

Never forget:

Go get redpilled on /POL/ and then come back.

The issue with the Jews is as follows:

The Jews have many good qualities in that they are a culture that has survived for at least 5,000 years, went through many hardships and are the ultimate survivors (living in the desert for so long can harden you). They value knowledge because they know it is power (many of their laws and customs are due to their analytical and perception skills with respect to perceiving their environment), are patriarchal (matrilinearity is a recent construct during the time of Christ) and are instinctively red pill. They persist, are resourceful, possess tactical abilities, are bold and are very cohesive. Many of these qualities align quite well with the Manosphere in that they tie to self improvement.

However, they let the bad elements of their group set the tone of their culture, (looking at you Rothschild), are envious of the achievements of European cultures (although they have achievements of their own to be proud of), suffer from many ailments that affect other Semitic cultures, such as megalomania, psychopathy, dogma and hubris. They also have the mindset of women due to their self-destructive and schizophrenic tendencies. Anyone in the group who tries to reform the downsides of Jewish culture are either silenced by their own because they cannot stand the truth that change/reform is needed (just like women) or become so discouraged that they convert to the host culture and lead pogroms against their former kinsmen. Also, after they are thrown out, they have the chutzpah to say they are oppressed (the same with women who are forced to be held accountable for their actions).

Therefore:

The issue with Jews is that you are dealing with a culture that in the sum of its parts is little different than dealing with a woman. Since Jews can be thought of as women, you have to treat Jews the same way you treat women. When you equate the two together, then it becomes obvious of the strategies to counter them.

Thus:
Know Jews, Know Women
Know Women, Know Jews

[Rigsby]

(05-13-2018 03:52 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

What is a reform jew?

Is Sheldon Adelson a reform jew?

Harvey Weinstein?

Levi Trotsky?

Henry Kissinger?

I only know the answer to one of these, I think.

Levi Trotsky - wasn't he that bloke that made blue jeans, but they only came in one size, and one style, and one colour, and one trouser length, and you had to wear them whether you wanted to or not. But for some reason, there were never enough of them to go around?

Even though the ones making them were the only ones who were wearing them (they were the only ones that had enough money to buy them). And if you were caught not wearing any, you were sent off to a camp somewhere to make more of them!

That Levi Trotsky?

At least no one can ever accuse me of being ignorant of world history.


This man wants to know why you are not wearing the latest state approved apparel:





Poor Lev. If only the world could have embraced the proper way to make blue jeans...

[Super_Fire]

^^^Interesting take.

The main problem with the Jews is that, as the eternal minority, they're adept at subverting the host culture for their own benefit. Thanks to the book of rationalizations known as the Talmud, laws that apply to them do not apply to the Goyim (usury, straight cheating, lying, etc.) So they are not content to just live and let live. They always have to be controlling the cultural frame, and in extreme cases have contempt for non-Jews, especially Christians, so have no compunction in destroying cultural values and morals through their various forms of entertainment.

I know this is recapitulation, but to date the most succesful modus vivendi for dealing this matter was set out in the papal bull sicut Judaeis; that is, no one shall harm the Jew, but the Jew has no right to subvert your culture.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Generalizations exist so that we don't have to bog down our communications with endless minutiae and qualifiers.

It's fairly well accepted that when someone on the forum talks about (((them))) then they're referring to reform Jews or the globalist elite. Are all globalist elite Jews? No. Does anyone care? Also no. Because when you engage with a regular group of people you get to know how to interpret the dialect and simply find convenient ways to abbreviate. This was a hard row to hoe when I first got here, navigating through the maze of acronyms and forum slang. I had to figure out what HB meant and what a lizard was (and wasn't). But you've carried a gun for a living so you know this all makes perfect sense. If someone told you "your army lingo is no good, it doesn't make sense half the time and makes it hard for outsiders to understand what you're talking about" then you'd have told them to get over it (or something far less pleasant).

Now if you go to Stormfront or some place like that then (((them))) will mean something else. Probably it will mean "every Jew in the world and anyone I suspect might be a Jew".

That's life. You learn the local dialect and join the conversation on the terms of the locals. Fairly safe to say that nobody here is going back to "religiously non-specific globalist individuals". The forum facepalms over "those faggots", "fucking women" and even things as broad as "goddamn Californians" even though it's plainly obvious that not everyone in those groups is an asshole. It's more important to take note of the poster's history and the message they're trying to convey than to police the specifics as if we have to cater the words to some sort of universal audience.

We have some Jews on the forum and to the best of my knowledge none of them are hiding in the digital attic, terrified of the nazis roaming the threads. I can't think of a single person on the forum who has a grudge against typical Jews just trying to get a long, and if that became apparent then they'd be banned, so when someone talks about "the Jews" then take it for what they mean, not what you could compel the words to mean. And if you don't know what they mean then wait 'til you've got a measure of their character before you assume they're the next iteration of Hitler.

[Pride male]

Beside the jews arent giant corporations like Halliburton, Lockheed and other arms manufacturers also to blame for the war mongering?

[Samseau]

(05-13-2018 04:55 PM)nola Wrote:  

(05-13-2018 02:43 PM)kamoz Wrote:  

Nola. - you’re using the classic liberal argument of “my friends/family/people I know are _____ therefore _____ so your generalizations are wrong.” You’re a smart guy and in the early stages. I foresee a massive red pill in your future.

Superiorclimber - I foresee no redpills in your future. Also your username is racist. Now go repent on the liberal altar for not only looking at this forbidden forum but posting on it. That and your racist username. You racist.

you deleted it! But I saw it!

Generalizations are always wrong. Period, I foresee lot's of pills in your future.

Nice way to refute yourself bro. You made a generalization about generalizations.

We all use generalizations each and every day, about all kinds of objects and animals. People who say generalizations aren't useful or ever true are merely suffering from denial along the five stages of grief: "denial, anger, compromise, depression, acceptance."

You're still in the denial stage, your buddy superior climber is in the anger stage, soon you'll try to reason with us that reform Jews can be reasoned with despite voting for Hillary by a ratio of 70-80%, then you'll be sad and stop posting here for awhile, and finally you'll come to terms (red pilled) with the rot inside of the Jewish world and start looking for solutions.

[worldwidetraveler]

We can't process all the information being thrown at us throughout the day which is why we rely on generalizations.

[Sherman]

To answer the question, I don't think the US should support Israel in a war against Iran, because there is no way Israel is going to attack Iran without US support. However, I do hope that Israel survives in some form because of the great work they are doing in archaeology. They have found beyond a reasonable doubt that there was no Exodus and they are uncovering the real origins of that area which is quit different than the myths invented in the Bible. This is important scientific work to bring truth to the world and I don't think the Muslims would be doing this.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Israel is a tough cookie.

We should respect every man who wants to defend his homeland.
Also we should acknowledge that Israel already fought wars without much US/NATO help. It survived on it's own and even family of their politicians lost their lives defending that country.

Whether you can agree with every corrupt and globalist Jewish politician as well as many decisions of the government - that is an entirely different matter.

Counter-question: Does anyone think that the world would be better off if Israel had lost the 6-day-war and would not exist? Do you think that Muslims the world over would be more liberal and there would be more peace in the Middle East? The globalists have their plans ready for those people regardless what happens.

They even wrote about - reread Huxley's Brave New World. You see any mention of an Islamic Caliphate somewhere in that One World Government? No - because in that planned time both Islam and Christianity has been wiped out already - even old-school Judaism would not exist. You should read some interviews of the likes of Philipp Rothschild - he is no fan of the orthodox - some don't even acknowledge his family as Jewish since they married non-Jewish women.

In any case - the question of whether the US should help defend Israel is about as worthy as to ask whether the US should help defend Norway from the future Caliphate of Swedistan. Nah - let them have them, let them kill the Norwegian men, let them rape the women and move on to Finland. Why bother? Who cares? Dirty Norwegian scum.

[brick tamland]

Fuck Israel.

[nomadbrah]

There is really one lasting salvation for jews and his name is Christ.

It's also the only salvation for muslims.

Christ is the bridge between the Greek and the Semitte.

[Going strong]

(05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

I can think of quite a bunch of "organizations seeking to undermine Western culture" that are not "headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews".

Like, BLM. Or the Euro-Parliament Intergroup "on LGBT Rights". And what about the U.N. itself? I don't reckon the UN is headed or funded by Jews, quite the contrary actually.

[Super_Fire]

(05-14-2018 06:06 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

There is really one lasting salvation for jews and his name is Christ.

It's also the only salvation for muslims.

Christ is the bridge between the Greek and the Semitte.

Which is exactly why the the Pharisees killed him.

They have sacred DNA, the seed of Abraham, and nobody's going to say otherwise, and definitely no prophet. Hark! I see the real messiah, Simon bar Kokhba coming over the hill to save us!

[renotime]

(05-13-2018 08:56 AM)nola Wrote:  

I'm a 10 year JSOC veteran which included several years serving in a Foreign military outside the US.

What? I thought JSOC was only made up of branches of the American military.

[TigerMandingo]

(05-13-2018 07:15 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  

They also have the mindset of women due to their self-destructive and schizophrenic tendencies. Anyone in the group who tries to reform the downsides of Jewish culture are either silenced by their own because they cannot stand the truth that change/reform is needed (just like women) or become so discouraged that they convert to the host culture and lead pogroms against their former kinsmen.

Great post.

Have you ever wondered why there are so few ex-Jews, for instance? You often hear about ex-Muslims, ex-Christians, but very few individuals who have abandoned Judaism. That's because of its highly insular nature and tendency to keep its members in-line. Groupthink is an understatement when it comes to Jews. They have zero ability for self-criticism or reflection. That is why anti-semites have to do it for them. Half of my family is Jewish. I can tell you that they are the most paranoid, neurotic people I have ever come across. Now you can imagine what Israel is like. It is a country that honestly believes the next Holocaust is just around the corner, despite no credible existing threats.