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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?
#51

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Evangelicals are heretics and judaizers (this is a real heresy).
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#52

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (02-27-2018 01:10 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Evangelicals are heretics and judaizers (this is a real heresy).

I consider all Semitic religions heretical! They claim to preach for patriarchy and order but they are subversive in nature (reminds me of a certain gender).
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#53

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (02-27-2018 01:10 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Evangelicals are heretics and judaizers (this is a real heresy).

I spent some time going to a black Pentecostal church and never once did anyone call the Jews "God's chosen people" or any jewish dickriding. So not all evangelicals worship the ground the (((usurers/Messiah deniers))) walk on.

They were heretical though, I ended up learning some weird doctrines after a while I thought were dead wrong and had to leave.
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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Pleased - VERY pleased - to see the results of this poll. Israel is no friend of America and it's good to see most people recognize that. It isn't anti-semitic to be against the idiotic Israel-first foreign policies America lets itself get into.

If the Mueller investigation were really about stamping out foreign interference in our elections, they'd start with AIPAC.
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#55

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (03-07-2018 07:29 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

If the Mueller investigation were really about stamping out foreign interference in our elections, they'd start with AIPAC.

Speaking of which, AIPAC just concluded its yearly conference, which included speeches by Pence and Nikki Lena.

Here's a full list of the speakers, I was kinda floored by how many there are.

http://www.policyconference.org/gallery/...rs2018.asp
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#56

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

The only thing good about Barack Obama was that a lot of AIPAC supporters didn't like him. I heard from an attendee that before Obama arrived at one of their events, someone got up to the mic and admonished people to not boo the President of the US when he takes to the podium.

They sent an email to that affect some time before the event was held:

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The goal of the conference, as always, is to have every speaker, honored guest, member of Congress, Senator, and administration official who joins us feel that we have done everything we can to extend our hand in friendship. They must walk away from the conference knowing that we look forward to working together, with them, to make America and Israel stronger. Each speech and appearance at the conference is an important opportunity for us to accomplish that critical goal.

We have always had the perspective that these speakers and guests have been invited into our home and we will treat them with the warmth, deference, respect, and appreciation that anyone would be accorded as such.

Therefore, how we conduct ourselves during the conference, individually and collectively, is a matter of great importance. Because we know that you–Democrats, Republicans, and Independents–come to this conference with one overriding concern–a stronger U.S.-Israel alliance–we ask that you act and react to every speech, address, and briefing, that will be offered as part of the conference program in only the most positive manner.

Thank you in advance for your positive participation in this year’s historic gathering....


The motley array of speakers tells an interesting story. There's one black female college student listed as a "campus activist" Based on her interests in her social media profiles, she's a left leaning Democrat. Wondering what her speech will be about, and what relevance she would have at an AIPCAC event. I'd like to think it's something other than naked tokenism, but probably not.
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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (03-07-2018 08:54 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (03-07-2018 07:29 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  

If the Mueller investigation were really about stamping out foreign interference in our elections, they'd start with AIPAC.

Speaking of which, AIPAC just concluded its yearly conference, which included speeches by Pence and Nikki Lena.

Here's a full list of the speakers, I was kinda floored by how many there are.

http://www.policyconference.org/gallery/...rs2018.asp

Great link. Incredible at the power Jews have, easily more high profile speakers than any Republican or Democrat conference.

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#58

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Well guys, you're soon going to find out, as it seems like Trump is being bamboozled by the jews into attacking Syria as we speak.
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#59

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Voted no.

We should take care of our house and our people. No more useless wars in the middle east.

Only people who really care about Israel are very evangelical and hardcore Christian types.

I remember talking to an evangelical pastor maybe 8 years ago and he was telling me about the news that Hugo Chavez from Venezuela condemned Israel and supported Iran. He was telling me something about how Venezuela will be forever cursed because those countries that turn their back on Israel will be forever "cursed".

Aside from Christian zealots, no one cares about Israel. The amount of aid Israel receives from the U.S. is mind-boggling.

I can give two shits about Israel. No disrespect to Israeli forum members, but we need to worry about ourselves.
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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

These aren't hardcore Christians... We do not fear rapture but cheerleading the antichrist because you seek it means you are consumed by Satan's deception... American Zionist​ "churches" are one of the devil's greatest tricks. The Pharisees rejected the Messiah. They prepare for the Jewish messiah.. the antichrist.
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#61

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Guys

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm Israeli. No way in Israel's wars (and we had a lot) did American troops "died for us". That did not happen once.
Not 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006 and afterwards. The only time it happened was in 1991 (First Gulf war), but that wasn't "for us" in any way.
Getting into Syria is not "US being pupated by Israel". Obama is considered the worst president, by the Israelis (apart from the left). Getting into Syria was Obama doing his stupid thing. Israel actually has a major stake of Assad being in power, as we know that chaos means rockets fired on Israel.

Israel doesn't want US to help, apart from military aid (which is spent on US products). My own opinion is that it also should be stopped. It happened in the 1990s (US reduced the civilian aid and kept only the military one).

This is what it looks like from Israel's side.

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#62

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

^

Iraq was a war for Israel.

Israels provides support for Al Qaeda (Jabat Al Nusra) in Golan.

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report...war-393862
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#63

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

And how did the Israelis benefit from that war?


That war basically turned Iraq into a client state for Iran. If Saddam stood in power, he would be still keeping Iran in check, and thus keeping pressure off Israel.


And, since you are unaware how things in the Middle East work (and which does not stop you from opening stupid threads like this one), I'll tell you one thing - the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That for example explains the Arab - Israel axis. And unfortunately, that "alliance" in the Golan between the IDF and ALQ.



Like MaleBrain (hi dude!), I am also an IDF veteran, and, like him, I also hate the fact that we are doing a deal with the devil. If I had my way I would waste them (and the SAA and IRGC if they stand in the way). But...nobody is asking me.
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#64

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

< Globalist politics are not in the interest of common Israeli people. The globalists are not overly concerned whether more eggs are beaten in order to make an omelette - that includes also Jewish lives. They have their plans which span decades and centuries in advance and are willing to kill and destroy on all sides in order to get their way.

Destabilizing Iraq, Libya and now Syria - maybe later the destruction of Iran - only makes sense in the very long run. The plans fully unraveled might bring WWIII with Islam and then only after the final stage it will become apparent what they wanted to achieve all along. But until then - more bloodshed and mayhem. The Muslim side is anything but innocent in this regard, but plenty of nations are being constantly manipulated.

You don't have to be Nostradamus to see a growing Israel, destroyed and destabilized Muslim countries, mass Muslim migration to Europe, then massive conflicts erupting in Europe as the Muslim numbers swell to 20-40%, then war in a union of NATO, China, India, Israel vs all Muslim countries & the 4th gen warfare of the massive Muslim population across the world. Russia itself will be divided by then since their military will be 50-60% Muslim. If you take such a long-term view, then it makes sense, because afterwards only obedient workers and consumers will remain in a far more unified world. And it's utterly impossible that the final conflict would leave Israeli soldiers unscathed - again more eggs for the globalist omelette.
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#65

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Globalist policies are not in the interest of anyone, that is true. That 1% does not give a flying shit about you, me, Israel, America, Iranians, Arabs and so on. We are on the same page here (you and I).


But fortunately for us (and the rest of humanity), they are losing power. They aren't liking it. That's why they are trying to censor the Internet and crypto currencies. That's why they are throwing everything at Trump. And finally, take a look at the most recent meeting at Davos. You'll see fear in their eyes.


I don't know about you, but I am afraid of two things (I don't agree with you conclusions, happy to discuss elsewhere). One, what will those globalists do when they are about to lose power? And two, how their replacement will behave? Will they be better, or ten times worse than current ones?


And as far as Israel is concerned (special mention because it's a topic), I don't see it expanding past Yudea and Samaria. If they say annex Jordan, Israel may as well join the Arab league, because it will have an absolute Arab majority. Before you (or someone else) mention(s) the Oded Yinon plan, it was made when circumstances were a lot different (much less population, for one). Can't be done today. Ein sequi.
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#66

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-11-2018 05:45 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

And how did the Israelis benefit from that war?

That war basically turned Iraq into a client state for Iran. If Saddam stood in power, he would be still keeping Iran in check, and thus keeping pressure off Israel.

And, since you are unaware how things in the Middle East work (and which does not stop you from opening stupid threads like this one), I'll tell you one thing - the enemy of my enemy is my friend. That for example explains the Arab - Israel axis. And unfortunately, that "alliance" in the Golan between the IDF and ALQ.

Like MaleBrain (hi dude!), I am also an IDF veteran, and, like him, I also hate the fact that we are doing a deal with the devil. If I had my way I would waste them (and the SAA and IRGC if they stand in the way). But...nobody is asking me.

Yeah, that didn't go according to plan did it.

The zionist anglo agenda in the Mideast has been incompetent since day 1.

The goal was to remove Saddam, Gadaffi and Assad, because they as state actors could acquire nukes and other high tech weapons which could seriously threaten Israel in a way terrorists would never be able to. Saddam, Gadaffi and Assard were and are existential threats to Israel.

When Iraq fractured, it predictably fragmented along religious lines, because it isn't a country. Then it turned out the Shia militias backed by Iran were stronger than the Sunni militias, thus Israel, Saud and US created ISIS.

In any case, Israel is not an ally, Israel supplies and supports the people who blow Europeans into pieces. Remind me again why we should waste our resources and goodwill on people who support our worst enemies?
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<<< My view is more shaped by reading Carroll Quigley and the Reece Commission on Foundations. I don't see them losing control anywhere. Also the term of 1% is a misnomer, because a bunch of well-off dentists are not the problem. But I get your point.

The only way how a greater Israel can be manifested is if the Middle East is literally depopulated after a genocidal WWIII with Islam. But that may be the goal anyway - though since the end goal is no borders anyway, then calling this area Israel would be a misnomer as well.

The only things clear is that more shit is going to happen. We can only individually anticipate their actions as best as possible in order to survive it well and prosper while they are doing their big centuries-old omelette. I have personally becoming ever less and less fixed upon attempting to preserve a specific nation or tribe. I mentioned the bizarre logic of Ethno-Nationalistic Whites to consider converting to Judaism and moving to Israel - and I meant it. Move there and have your White ethno-state, you should check out the genome of Ashkenazi Jews - not much difference to Germans especially with all the ones form EE/FSU and old generations from Western Europe coming over. At least that government will not arrest your trying to preserve your race and culture.

The world is in constant flux - we can do our best to forge a solid path for us and our families. It's not the grandfather who did well who died trying to defend his German or Polish factory in the 1930s and 40s. It's the one who did well by selling his factory in the 30s and who came back in the end 40s to buy back 10 times more cementing the legacy for his family. We have to be more practical.
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You can move to Israel Zel as you have jewish heritage, but I can't and I have been to Israel and they're legit xenophobic and rude towards non-jews.
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#69

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

As I said some time ago. Nobody should move to another nation thinking they'll be accepted there. Not Israel. Not Japan. Not America. Not anywhere. Immediate acceptance is not cosmically owed to anyone. If you want your bloodline to exist somewhere else then you move so that your great grandkids will be accepted as legitimate, preferably after breeding in with the locals for several generations first.

Alternately someone can explain how first generation Chinese cowboys is anything other than a comical concept.

If your bloodline is locally but temporarily in peril then you move for a generation and suck up the attitude, taking it as a considerably better fate than the alternative.

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Quote: (05-12-2018 03:32 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

You can move to Israel Zel as you have jewish heritage, but I can't and I have been to Israel and they're legit xenophobic and rude towards non-jews.

My ancestry is probably too far removed to make it easy. I knew a guy in the Netherlands who converted easily enough. I also have friends and family who married Israelis. It really depends on what kind of people you meet and the context.

As Lenny said it - every country will make you experience some kind of xenophobia. The Swiss laugh at Austrians and the French don't like anyone unless you speak French.

It's certainly more pronounced in Israel.

All I am saying is that if you look forward decades in advance and want to live in a white ethno-state in 30-50 years, then Israel is a viable option. By that time you will be seen as Jewish if you lived there that long. EE countries are also an option until the wars and mayhem sweep over or some globalist parties come in power and invite millions of enrichers into the fold (something that can happen easily enough over the decades since the EU is a globalist dictatorship).
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Quote: (05-13-2018 02:50 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

As I said some time ago. Nobody should move to another nation thinking they'll be accepted there. Not Israel. Not Japan. Not America. Not anywhere.

Agree, except for America. Moved there in the early 1990s and never felt out of place once in over 20 years living and working there. Everyone was very accepting and supportive and not once was made feel unwelcome or treated like a 'furreigner'. It was like 'you moved here, you speak the language, you abide by the laws, you try to integrate = you are one of us'.

Here in Spain on the other hand I am regularly treated like a 2nd hand citizen. They don't respect or accept you even if you speak Spanish fluently. In all my years here I have only once been invited to someone's house and met their family. You get invited to gatherings and parties but they draw a very distinct line between Spaniards and everyone else.

It even goes as far as not being considered for partnerships or marriage, no matter how good looking, intelligent, rich, or charming you are. Many Spanish women (but not all) have a strong tendency to stick to their own as mixing it up with a 'guiri' (Spanish version if gringo) may be looked down upon by their precious social circle, which they will never leave during their lifetime. I saw this experience echoed in some of the old threads in this forums when players came to Spain to plant their flag, only to strike out repeatedly. At the end of the night the same gals who blew them off ended up going home with some tacky Spanish losers with zero game. But at least they were Spaniards ;-)

It's really strange that I had to go all the way to Spain in order to encounter blatant racism. And it's getting worse by the way. Seems to me Spaniards these days are more welcoming to Africans and Muslims than they are to Northern Europeans or Americans. The school system here is one giant Marxist training camp, so I'm not surprised.

So yeah, on the surface Spain is an inviting and liberally minded country. Great place to visit and have fun but if you move here keep in mind that you will never be one of them - you'll always be kept on the outside. They are more than happy to take your money though.

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I might have worded it better, and it's nice that you found acceptance in the US but people who feel that such acceptance is owed to them by some cosmic birthright are out of touch with reality and and have an entitlement complex. If you get accepted, great. If not, well nobody is owed a pass on xenophobia.

The fact is that one of the reasons the West is in serious decline is because it's not xenophobic enough.

In a healthy society acceptance is something the newcomer has to crawl through broken glass for, because it at least proves he's not some Johnny-come-lately sauntering over to the easiest place in the world to find low hanging fruit after all the hard civilisation-building work is already done. And that doesn't end at national borders either. It's a process that begins even when moving to a rural area in the same country where you have to prove yourself despite speaking the same language and looking functionally identical to the people you're trying to integrate with.

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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-11-2018 05:45 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  

Like MaleBrain (hi dude!), I am also an IDF veteran, and, like him, I also hate the fact that we are doing a deal with the devil. If I had my way I would waste them (and the SAA and IRGC if they stand in the way). But...nobody is asking me.

How can a foreigner Croat, a non Jew serve in the IDF? Didn't know that is possible.
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#74

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Excluding the ideological stuff yes the US should absolutely support Israel. I've said this before and I'll say it again, we use Israel and Jordan for QRF's. Israel is very useful because Cyprus has denied the US for even a landing strip for the military.

You need QRF (Quick Reaction Forces) for "ground and electronic intel solutions providers". Also in my day I was dealing with some of the most obscure shit you could not even imagine. Not talking combat related events, just talking to people.

I'm a 10 year JSOC veteran which included several years serving in a Foreign military outside the US. I still serve now in a very different and private capacity outside the military. A few forum members can confirm this that have met me and I'm also willing to meet with anyone in EE that would be interested as now my work and past or present is not really relevant to my safety or identity. I talk to journalist regularly and couldn't give a shit about being pinned to one side or the other as my record speaks for itself. Also I'm not much of a public figure nor will ever attempt to be but if I was I'd stand by being a member of any forum and every single thing that comes out of my head onto an internet forum without any remorse of fear of being judged by the public. There is nothing I say here that I would not say to my own family or friends. I only say this to establish some level of credibility in this thread against anyone who'd like to challenge me.

I don't like all this shit talking about Jews, Zionist Agenda ect.... it's fucking stupid conspiracy shit. Yeah there are rich leftist Jewish guys like Soros which I also consider deplorable ignorant humans but not anymore than I consider some right wing mega church evangelical pastors equally deplorable.

I'm also against the Islamic faction and quite frankly would support zero immigration/asylum from all Islamic states until they secured their own boarders and got their states organized. This isn't fucking stormfront although I'll say they like the WBC deserve their right to free speech whether I agree with them or not.

If you want to be an antisemitic person why not create an outlet where you can propose your views. When I did not like something I saw in my service I created these channels where I'd stake my case and then channel my superiors in order to vet through my thoughts or perceptions of all kinds of weird shit. We call it organized thinking or talking to other people smarter than you. It more often than not landed me in a situation that challenged my own views as most people are smarter than I am.

It's not an easy task but it's fucking worth it. You meet all kinds of awesome people willing to go to battle with you in a awesome way. It's a great learning exercise. Helps you learn to control your emotions and I'd go out on a limb to say it might make you better with women.
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#75

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Well that's kind of what the forum is.

The RVF was one of the last right wing groups that used to loosely be affiliated with the alt-right to normalise the JQ to some degree. Most of us came here thinking it was nonsense but the numbers rack up pretty quickly, as do the roll calls on most progressive organisations, so no, it's not nonsense. The forum has undertaken a very painful process of red-pilling ourselves on that issue.

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

It's not tin-foil hat nonsense to simply come to terms with what's plainly obvious if one dares to notice.

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