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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:15 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  

They also have the mindset of women due to their self-destructive and schizophrenic tendencies. Anyone in the group who tries to reform the downsides of Jewish culture are either silenced by their own because they cannot stand the truth that change/reform is needed (just like women) or become so discouraged that they convert to the host culture and lead pogroms against their former kinsmen.

Great post.

Have you ever wondered why there are so few ex-Jews, for instance? You often hear about ex-Muslims, ex-Christians, but very few individuals who have abandoned Judaism. That's because of its highly insular nature and tendency to keep its members in-line. Groupthink is an understatement when it comes to Jews. They have zero ability for self-criticism or reflection. That is why anti-semites have to do it for them. Half of my family is Jewish. I can tell you that they are the most paranoid, neurotic people I have ever come across. Now you can imagine what Israel is like. It is a country that honestly believes the next Holocaust is just around the corner, despite no credible existing threats.

The Holocoust is a brainwashing tool not only for Whites to justify their extermination - it is a method to keep it's own people constantly paranoid and expecting gruesome extermination for no apparent reason at all. Even Rabbis admitted that a good reason for Hitler's actions were the 20 mio. Russians and Ukrainians killed by mostly Jewish Bolsheviks in the 20 years before.

Though to be fair - their paranoia in the Middle East saved their asses. They would be wiped out without it. But it's a double-edged sword which serves both their elite as well as the globalists. I personally think that a certain somewhat paranoid mindset is not bad, just don't overdo it.
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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-14-2018 06:36 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

I can think of quite a bunch of "organizations seeking to undermine Western culture" that are not "headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews".

Like, BLM. Or the Euro-Parliament Intergroup "on LGBT Rights".[Image: dodgy.gif] And what about the U.N. itself? I don't reckon the UN is headed or funded by Jews, quite the contrary actually.

I don't know about these other groups, but isn't George Soros, the main funder of BLM, Jewish?
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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 07:15 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  

They also have the mindset of women due to their self-destructive and schizophrenic tendencies. Anyone in the group who tries to reform the downsides of Jewish culture are either silenced by their own because they cannot stand the truth that change/reform is needed (just like women) or become so discouraged that they convert to the host culture and lead pogroms against their former kinsmen.

Great post.

Have you ever wondered why there are so few ex-Jews, for instance? You often hear about ex-Muslims, ex-Christians, but very few individuals who have abandoned Judaism. That's because of its highly insular nature and tendency to keep its members in-line. Groupthink is an understatement when it comes to Jews. They have zero ability for self-criticism or reflection. That is why anti-semites have to do it for them. Half of my family is Jewish. I can tell you that they are the most paranoid, neurotic people I have ever come across. Now you can imagine what Israel is like. It is a country that honestly believes the next Holocaust is just around the corner, despite no credible existing threats.

What about Bobby Fischer? He renounced Judaism and even wrote to a top Jewish encyclopedia requesting that his name not be listed in it.

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Should the US support Israel in case of war against Iran?

Quote: (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Have you ever wondered why there are so few ex-Jews, for instance? You often hear about ex-Muslims, ex-Christians, but very few individuals who have abandoned Judaism. That's because of its highly insular nature and tendency to keep its members in-line.

And because converting to Christianity would mean leaving said group, which at its core is just a money-making operation. Any race/ethnicity that's predicated on one's religions beliefs isn't much of a race to begin with.

Which is why the Talmud and the Rabbinic class exists, to keep people from converting.
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I have two friends who left Judaism - they still call themselves Jewish occasionally though, just without the religion. You can leave Christianity, but you can't stop being White. I also have Ex-Muslim friends who are all Persians. There the distinction is clear - their ethnic identity is not Muslim.
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Quote: (05-15-2018 04:19 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I have two friends who left Judaism - they still call themselves Jewish occasionally though, just without the religion. You can leave Christianity, but you can't stop being White. I also have Ex-Muslim friends who are all Persians. There the distinction is clear - their ethnic identity is not Muslim.

Exactly I'm genetically half Jew through my mother but was raised Christian. Technically Ashkenazi is considered a race but that's also debated both inside and outside the Jewish community.

Also to note on leaving Judaism, most very liberal or leftist Jews that I've met are actually atheist. But like many Ex-Muslim liberals they'll all of a sudden claim being Jewish or Muslim if they feel it'll give them the upper hand in a religious or immigration debate or potentially have some economic benefit.

I hate this type of intellectual dishonesty to no end. Same goes for people that call themselves moderate Muslims when it's not technically possible to be moderate according to the Qur'an. Plus they'd be considered apostates in most Islamic countries.

Also if you're a Conservative Christian you might be surprised how well you culturally and politically with Conservative Jews in Israel. But not so much with the reformist in Israel, they are pretty much all socialist. Also there is a fairly large politically conservative atheist population in Israel, they are just not very outspoken about it.
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Quote: (05-15-2018 03:33 AM)fokker Wrote:  

What about Bobby Fischer? He renounced Judaism and even wrote to a top Jewish encyclopedia requesting that his name not be listed in it.

That's true, but think about how rare that is, that you even know his name. Fischer is an interesting case. He was the greatest chess player EVER in his prime, then suddenly left the scene and bounced to Japan and Iceland (of all places). He then started talking smack about Jews and how they cause wars and conflicts. The US didn't like that at all and ordered its bitch-boy Japan to arrest and detain him. After that I believe he settled in Iceland, which was nice enough to grant him citizenship.

Funny thing about Fischer is he exhibited all the typical psychological Jewish traits such as paranoia, neuroticism, and a high IQ.
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Quote: (05-15-2018 11:04 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (05-15-2018 03:33 AM)fokker Wrote:  

What about Bobby Fischer? He renounced Judaism and even wrote to a top Jewish encyclopedia requesting that his name not be listed in it.

That's true, but think about how rare that is, that you even know his name. Fischer is an interesting case. He was the greatest chess player EVER in his prime, then suddenly left the scene and bounced to Japan and Iceland (of all places). He then started talking smack about Jews and how they cause wars and conflicts. The US didn't like that at all and ordered its bitch-boy Japan to arrest and detain him. After that I believe he settled in Iceland, which was nice enough to grant him citizenship.

Funny thing about Fischer is he exhibited all the typical psychological Jewish traits such as paranoia, neuroticism, and a high IQ.

Fischer is a fascinating case.

From being a bastard child of an affair and NOT knowing it until his biological father had passed, to being raised with a single mom moving around, and HATING his mom (Whom FBI had a 1000 page file on) at early teen. Then US champions, world champions, single-handedly destroying the Soviet chess elite...to completely going off air after his greatest glory. A decade or so later, he starts reading protocols of Zion, snubs US' sanctions on Yugoslavia to go play Spassky there in 1992 for a few million dollars, has his passport cancelled by US....in aftermath of 9/11, he calls in to a radio station from the Philippines saying: "I'm so happy right now. what goes around, comes around." just going on a rant re: imperialism and jews.

I've watched and read a lot on Fischer and his games...I don't recall him ever being a "practicing" Jew. It looked to me that he never had time for it or didn't care, mostly maybe because he hated his mom and thought his "Jewishness" comes from her?! Possibly.

One of the few high-profile people of 20th century who ruthlessly despised all Soviet communists, Zionists, and American-exceptionalism ™ all at the same time.

I went to his burial place in a very small and isolated Church in suburbs of Selfoss, Iceland in 2014. Ther was not a single human being around within the 5km radius. There are a select few graves there, mostly folks who died in the early 20th century, and we have Fischer's who died in 2008. Fitting place of a peace for such an enigmatic and private individual.
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Quote: (05-15-2018 03:15 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote: (05-14-2018 06:36 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

Quote: (05-13-2018 11:04 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Most of us contend that obviously the average "Jew-on-the-street" is not involved in some sort of vast conspiracy but the reality is that virtually every organisation that seeks to undermine Western culture and usher in neo-marxism is headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews.

I can think of quite a bunch of "organizations seeking to undermine Western culture" that are not "headed and/or funded highly disproportionately by Jews".

Like, BLM. Or the Euro-Parliament Intergroup "on LGBT Rights".[Image: dodgy.gif] And what about the U.N. itself? I don't reckon the UN is headed or funded by Jews, quite the contrary actually.

I don't know about these other groups, but isn't George Soros, the main funder of BLM, Jewish?
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...eral-foun/

Yet BLM routinely hates on Israel. Which shows that there are two kinds or Jewish persons I guess: 1- the good, Conservative ones, certainly the vast majority, as proven by most election results in Israel actually; and 2- the bad, socialist and depraved ones like Soros and assorted Hollywood pervs. A troublesome minority, granted, but a tiny minority.

On the other hand, I can think of other groups of persons where the vast majority is troublesome (and violent), to say the least...
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Quote: (05-15-2018 04:19 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I have two friends who left Judaism - they still call themselves Jewish occasionally though, just without the religion. You can leave Christianity, but you can't stop being White. I also have Ex-Muslim friends who are all Persians. There the distinction is clear - their ethnic identity is not Muslim.

Being a Jew in these days is much more of an ethnic identity than an religious one. I've grown up with tons of Jews around and almost every single one of them is an atheist. Yet they'll still insist that they are still Jews to the core even if they also at the same time contradicts themselves by saying that being a Jew is a religious identity and not an ethnic one. I remember a conversation I had with a Jewish guy I knew back in university. This guy was a big Zionist and very much into his Jewish identity and regularly attended the Hillel on campus despite being an atheist. He was making the claim that being a Jew is a religious thing even though he didn't believe in the religion at all. I asked him even if he considered himself a Jew and he said yes and than asked him if believed in God or any of the aspects of religion and he said no. I then asked him how he could reconcile the two statements. The only thing thing he could come up with was "...it's complicated". A bizarre thing he would also do was write the word 'God' out a G-d, showing respect to the God he didn't believe in.

Christians who leave the faith won't refer to themselves as Christians and typically scorn any sort of identification with their former faith. Jews who don't believe (which is the majority of Jews) don't refer to themselves as ex-Jews and will still identify as Jewish. All of this completely doesn't make sense if you treat Jewishness as a religious identity but it makes sense if it's treated as an ethnicity. There's also the fact that Jewishness is passed down via blood line and not from a confession of faith. A person who's born of a Jewish mother is forever a Jew while a Christian that renounces his faith is no longer one.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_..._ethnicity

In an ethnic sense, an Ashkenazi Jew is one whose ancestry can be traced to the Jews who settled in Central Europe. For roughly a thousand years, the Ashkenazim were a reproductively isolated population in Europe, despite living in many countries, with little inflow or outflow from migration, conversion, or intermarriage with other groups, including other Jews. Human geneticists have argued that genetic variations have been identified that show high frequencies among Ashkenazi Jews, but not in the general European population, be they for patrilineal markers (Y-chromosome haplotypes) and for matrilineal markers (mitotypes).[109] Since the middle of the 20th century, many Ashkenazi Jews have intermarried, both with members of other Jewish communities and with people of other nations and faiths.

A 2006 study found Ashkenazi Jews to be a clear, homogeneous genetic subgroup. Strikingly, regardless of the place of origin, Ashkenazi Jews can be grouped in the same genetic cohort – that is, regardless of whether an Ashkenazi Jew's ancestors came from Poland, Russia, Hungary, Lithuania, or any other place with a historical Jewish population, they belong to the same ethnic group. The research demonstrates the endogamy of the Jewish population in Europe and lends further credence to the idea of Ashkenazi Jews as an ethnic group. Moreover, though intermarriage among Jews of Ashkenazi descent has become increasingly common, many Haredi Jews, particularly members of Hasidic or Hareidi sects, continue to marry exclusively fellow Ashkenazi Jews. This trend keeps Ashkenazi genes prevalent and also helps researchers further study the genes of Ashkenazi Jews with relative ease. It is noteworthy that these Haredi Jews often have extremely large families.
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Quote: (02-13-2018 02:20 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

Question mostly for Americans, but anyone can vote.

Israel is currently doing their best to provoke WW3 by attacking Assad, Russia and Iran in the Middle East.

Personally, I think the jews are hellraising, warmongering, malcontents who seemingly want nothing but death and destruction.

How do YOU feel though?

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I believe currently in our world it would be chaos if one of our major powers declares war/annexation of another state. I believe US is only using Israel as it's "war front". Its just politics, business as usually for the wardogs if Israel vs Syria/Russia/whatever terrorist groups but it will be a WW3 disaster if US vs Russia with China will be in the mix somehow.

So US is using Israel more than "an ally" really. Their women isn't even that hot/easy -worth it either.
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Quote: (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

They have zero ability for self-criticism or reflection.

I find the Old Testament fascinating. It's God versus a People who consistently-don't get it, no matter the graces he gives them.

Even when Jesus comes along in the New Testament, and clearly and repeatedly-spells it out for them, they still don't get it.

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They're too busy neurotically kvetching and meddling in the interests of retaining their power to hear. They know exactly what he means by these parables, they just obstinately-see their Will as being above God's, which probably explains why each vaulted belief of Liberal Judaism seems to directly oppose God's Natural Law.

If you need to see it in action: look at what Roseanne claims to be doing - supporting Trump - versus the actual content of her show: model Conservatives' values to bring them into alignment with Liberal Judaism. I looked at some clips on Youtube - did she have a stroke somewhere along the line? Her 'acting' seems to have devolved to the level of Cult Actress Edith Massey, whom at least had the excuse of being mentally-handicapped.

This Will to Oppose - persisting for thousands of years - almost seems to be an innate mental defect. Note that its also evident in the Gentile Populations most influenced by their propaganda, such as, say, Lesbians, who end up similarly-neurotic.

I'm not worried about the War. Israel is doing exactly what it was foretold it would do, no doubt thinking it can 'trick' God out of the destruction of Israel. The clock starts from when the Peace Treaty is signed. 3.5 years later, the Great Political Speaker / Gentile of European Descent who presents himself as a 'man of peace' but whom Israel was responsible for putting into power, and who helped them build the Third Temple, betrays them, and Israel is persecuted and destroyed. This is scheduled to happening around the time of the Catholic understanding of The Great Apostasy, which I can't deny is happening, part of which is the eventual destruction of the Roman Church.

At a guess: I'd say it'd be somewhere during Trump's second term. Whether this is Biblical Prophecy, or Religious Fanatics aping Biblical Prophecy for their own purposes of control is up to your own belief system. There's a depressing amount of Protestants and Evangelicals who want to hasten the End Times for their own selfish desires, and I can see that as being a very easy group to politically-manipulate by aligning political action with scriptural belief. I can't imagine what exactly they get out of the above passages from Matthew's Gospel.
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AB, you hit the nail on the head.

To this I would also add the fact that many Jews have an activist streak. They have some sort of genetic predisposition to protest, challenge the status quo, and rock the boat. Hence all these Jewish financiers agitating, donating millions to pro-Israel and pro-immigration causes. It's not enough to be filthy rich, they have to be "the light unto the nation". Sheldon Adelson can't just enjoy his golden years with his grandkids, he has to be out there supporting the Likudniks. Same with Soros.

I forgot where I read this but there was interesting story right before the Russian revolution, 1905-1910 somewhere around there. The chief rabbi of St. Petersburg held a meeting with some high-level Russian government official. The official says to the rabbi "Can I give you some advice?" Rabbi says, "Sure". He says "Contain your youth". He meant that young Jewish activists were wreaking havoc across the nation spreading Communist ideology, which later obviously succeeded.
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Quote: (05-15-2018 07:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

To this I would also add the fact that many Jews have an activist streak. They have some sort of genetic predisposition to protest, challenge the status quo, and rock the boat.

In other words, the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit:




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Quote: (05-15-2018 04:32 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

Quote: (05-15-2018 04:19 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I have two friends who left Judaism - they still call themselves Jewish occasionally though, just without the religion. You can leave Christianity, but you can't stop being White. I also have Ex-Muslim friends who are all Persians. There the distinction is clear - their ethnic identity is not Muslim.

Being a Jew in these days is much more of an ethnic identity than an religious one. I've grown up with tons of Jews around and almost every single one of them is an atheist. Yet they'll still insist that they are still Jews to the core even if they also at the same time contradicts themselves by saying that being a Jew is a religious identity and not an ethnic one. I remember a conversation I had with a Jewish guy I knew back in university. This guy was a big Zionist and very much into his Jewish identity and regularly attended the Hillel on campus despite being an atheist. He was making the claim that being a Jew is a religious thing even though he didn't believe in the religion at all. I asked him even if he considered himself a Jew and he said yes and than asked him if believed in God or any of the aspects of religion and he said no. I then asked him how he could reconcile the two statements. The only thing thing he could come up with was "...it's complicated". A bizarre thing he would also do was write the word 'God' out a G-d, showing respect to the God he didn't believe in.

Christians who leave the faith won't refer to themselves as Christians and typically scorn any sort of identification with their former faith. Jews who don't believe (which is the majority of Jews) don't refer to themselves as ex-Jews and will still identify as Jewish. All of this completely doesn't make sense if you treat Jewishness as a religious identity but it makes sense if it's treated as an ethnicity. There's also the fact that Jewishness is passed down via blood line and not from a confession of faith. A person who's born of a Jewish mother is forever a Jew while a Christian that renounces his faith is no longer one.

My understanding is that beliefs aren't an essential part of Judaism, which places more emphasis on actions and behavior. Thus, there are atheist Jews who still practice the religious holidays. That is perfectly consistent and not a contradiction if beliefs aren't a requirement of the religion. Judaism doesn't even have a uniform agreement on if there is life after death. Christians tend to make a fetish out of beliefs and assume beliefs define every other culture just as in Christianity. Another comparison, may be to Tibetans. They are both tribes, but it is possible for anyone to become a Tibetan Buddhist.

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Quote: (05-15-2018 05:24 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I find the Old Testament fascinating. It's God versus a People who consistently-don't get it, no matter the graces he gives them.

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Quote: (05-16-2018 08:35 PM)Super_Fire Wrote:  

Quote: (05-15-2018 07:23 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

To this I would also add the fact that many Jews have an activist streak. They have some sort of genetic predisposition to protest, challenge the status quo, and rock the boat.

In other words, the Jewish Revolutionary Spirit:




There is nothing wrong with the revolutionary spirit if it means to clean out the gutter trash that has accumulated to the top (China and to a lesser extent the Roman Empire have a history of overthrowing corrupt rulers) and replacing it with fresh blood that care about setting things straight for the populace, but when you revolt for the sake of revolting just to spite the order of things, then you just go over the top.
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