[Dragan]

(06-06-2018 05:21 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

So how exactly do you and your wing not talk at the entrance of their apartment?

He doesnt tell you "dude why dont you wanna come in", for example?

A way more likely scneario is he told the girls to ditch you.

I think we did. I believe his recollection of all this is correct.

I think we talked before getting to the apartment and I said I was tired, and wanted to sleep. I was pretty tired, and when the sun comes up it starts to fuck with me.

I was not into the girl I had been gaming.

This is the second failure to close in the past 4 or 5 days. I feel much worse about the first one, where I was fondling the girls boobs but just decided to get her number like an idiot.

There is another thing to be remedied as well. I've never fucking carried condoms around. I guess I need to go buy some.

As I said, no more numbers, unless the escalation goes nowhere.

Will attempt hardcore SNL game from now on. I've already missed two blatantly clear opportunities.

[Beirut]

You spent hours with this girl, practically all night, and you couldnt decide you werent into her before that? Or dud you get nervous at the thought of losing your virginity and pussied out (which is totlaly normal)?

And how the hell could you give us a totally different recollection then say his was probably right? Were you black out drunk at this point?

Cant stay all over the place like that dragan. Get it together. Dp you have a roosh crew there?

[Dragan]

(06-06-2018 10:28 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

You spent hours with this girl, practically all night, and you couldnt decide you werent into her before that? Or dud you get nervous at the thought of losing your virginity and pussied out (which is totlaly normal)?

And how the hell could you give us a totally different recollection then say his was probably right? Were you black out drunk at this point?

Cant stay all over the place like that dragan. Get it together. Dp you have a roosh crew there?

I was never into her, I couldn't bring myself to go to her apt. I also lacked condoms, an idiot I am.

I said something to him to the affect of "I don't give a fuck, and am tired and want to sleep." I'll own up to saying that, I said that. I was not feeling the girl at all. No, no drinking at all. Not under the influence of anything at all. All my sets the past week I have done with 0 drinking.

I met with Nola and SuperiorClimber today if that counts as a "crew". I know there is ongoing debate as to whether they actually exist or not.

[PainPositive]

Hey Dragan, Ive been in Belgrade for the majority of the last four years and have met at least a couple dozen forum members here. We should meet up. I'll send you a PM.

[Dragan]

I've been trying more night-game, but I don't think it's the way to go at all in Belgrade, especially if you are in a loud club, where there are a lot of party girls, I don't think it's a good idea at all. I've visited both clubs and splavs and I don't think it's worth the effort.

What I've observed works better is social circle gaming at night with a group of friends that already know the girls. Also, picking up at parks at night, and even picking up on the street at places that are open late, like bakeries.

I've observed harsher blowouts at night too, so there's that to contend with as well. I tried gaming in the club last night, and it was basically impossible. Much better results on the street or in the park.

I set a date tomorrow with a girl whose number I got gaming at the park, so I'm gonna show her around my neighborhood and try to pull her back to my place. Also, I had been texting her, and decided texting was bullshit so I just called her, was a bit aloof but also direct, and set a date with her.

Start gaming earlier at night in belgrade than at midnight, by that point it's already too late.

Learning the kino ladder, and gonna venue change for best results tomorrow.

edit: it seems like it takes forever to get a girl here to commit to a date, push hard when you open up a set for SNL, but if you have to take the number, you're going to have to make all the effort to set up a date. This is not just my experience either, my friend, Serbian, got frozen out by a girl (by all indications he could have got the SNL, but instead just got the number), he persisted with texting/ calling game, and then got her to commit to a date after 1 week+.

[Dragan]

I approached some Bosnian girls in the park last night. Limited english. Tried to keep the conversation going but they were even more frosty than Serbian girls. Somehow even more conservative than Serbian girls.

Not worth the effort.

In other news globalization is occuring at breakneck speed here in Belgrade. Starbucks will be opening in Serbia soon; fuck that shit!

"Starbucks stores to open in "coffee-loving" Serbia"

Quote:

"The first Starbucks store will be opened in Belgrade later this year, the city with a long coffee-loving history," AmRest Holdings announced in a press release.

The company said it was the lead operator of Starbucks stores in the Central European region, while Serbia will be "another new market for the company to open the first Starbucks store."

“We are very happy to bring the unique Starbucks experience to Serbian customers, with our first store in Belgrade," said Adam Mularuk, Starbucks president at AmRest.

"This country has a rich coffee culture and we look forward to being a part of it, providing a place where customers can enjoy high quality coffee and discover our passion,"

This reminds me of when Starbucks decided to open in Italy. I hope their little experiment works badly here. Coffee culture is great enough without Starbucks and all that bullshit.

https://www.b92.net/eng/news/business.ph..._id=104325

[gabpicar@gmx.com]

Oh well, the silver lining is that you'll now be able to go into Starbucks and take a dump without buying anything

[Dragan]

(06-10-2018 10:20 AM)gabpicar@gmx.com Wrote:  

Oh well, the silver lining is that you'll now be able to go into Starbucks and take a dump without buying anything

Hmmm. I don't know what their policy in Europe is... I'm gonna stay away from the place.

[Dragan]

I did some gaming with Beastlord in the park. He picks the set, he approaches and chats the girls up, he tells me to come over when I feel like it. I wait a few minutes and approach. We all sit down on the park bench and chat with these college age girls. They seem pretty chill and speak good english. We bullshit about music, sports, etc. After 15 minutes we take their numbers and leave.

2nd set, we go to a hip restaurant for food, we sit next to a group of 3 girls. He asks them the serbian word for beautiful and gets them talking. We eat, chat with them some more and got the numbers.

Night is still young.

[Trent W.]

(06-09-2018 01:47 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

I've been trying more night-game, but I don't think it's the way to go at all in Belgrade, especially if you are in a loud club, where there are a lot of party girls, I don't think it's a good idea at all. I've visited both clubs and splavs and I don't think it's worth the effort.

What I've observed works better is social circle gaming at night with a group of friends that already know the girls. Also, picking up at parks at night, and even picking up on the street at places that are open late, like bakeries.

I've observed harsher blowouts at night too, so there's that to contend with as well. I tried gaming in the club last night, and it was basically impossible. Much better results on the street or in the park.

I set a date tomorrow with a girl whose number I got gaming at the park, so I'm gonna show her around my neighborhood and try to pull her back to my place. Also, I had been texting her, and decided texting was bullshit so I just called her, was a bit aloof but also direct, and set a date with her.

Start gaming earlier at night in belgrade than at midnight, by that point it's already too late.

Learning the kino ladder, and gonna venue change for best results tomorrow.

edit: it seems like it takes forever to get a girl here to commit to a date, push hard when you open up a set for SNL, but if you have to take the number, you're going to have to make all the effort to set up a date. This is not just my experience either, my friend, Serbian, got frozen out by a girl (by all indications he could have got the SNL, but instead just got the number), he persisted with texting/ calling game, and then got her to commit to a date after 1 week+.

Nightgame/SNL in the Balkans and Southern Europe in general is among the hardest. I'm talking about pulling native girls and doing it consistently. Triggering IOIs might help you, so you make it more of a warm approach. If you're in the club you're obviously going to try, but all in all I'd agree with you that the RoI from nightgame is very low compared to other places.

[threeofdiamonds]

planning on attending Exit festival, any one going?

[Dragan]

(06-10-2018 03:12 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  

(06-09-2018 01:47 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

I've been trying more night-game, but I don't think it's the way to go at all in Belgrade, especially if you are in a loud club, where there are a lot of party girls, I don't think it's a good idea at all. I've visited both clubs and splavs and I don't think it's worth the effort.

What I've observed works better is social circle gaming at night with a group of friends that already know the girls. Also, picking up at parks at night, and even picking up on the street at places that are open late, like bakeries.

I've observed harsher blowouts at night too, so there's that to contend with as well. I tried gaming in the club last night, and it was basically impossible. Much better results on the street or in the park.

I set a date tomorrow with a girl whose number I got gaming at the park, so I'm gonna show her around my neighborhood and try to pull her back to my place. Also, I had been texting her, and decided texting was bullshit so I just called her, was a bit aloof but also direct, and set a date with her.

Start gaming earlier at night in belgrade than at midnight, by that point it's already too late.

Learning the kino ladder, and gonna venue change for best results tomorrow.

edit: it seems like it takes forever to get a girl here to commit to a date, push hard when you open up a set for SNL, but if you have to take the number, you're going to have to make all the effort to set up a date. This is not just my experience either, my friend, Serbian, got frozen out by a girl (by all indications he could have got the SNL, but instead just got the number), he persisted with texting/ calling game, and then got her to commit to a date after 1 week+.

Nightgame/SNL in the Balkans and Southern Europe in general is among the hardest. I'm talking about pulling native girls and doing it consistently. Triggering IOIs might help you, so you make it more of a warm approach. If you're in the club you're obviously going to try, but all in all I'd agree with you that the RoI from nightgame is very low compared to other places.

Night game is not so good. I completely agree.

[Dragan]

(06-10-2018 03:50 PM)threeofdiamonds Wrote:  

planning on attending Exit festival, any one going?

I'm not going to Exit, but a big contingent of of Serb kids that I know are. The only thing that sucks is Novi Sad is gonna be overrun, but there are going to be a shitton of tourists there.

[Beirut]

Night game in Belgrade isn't about pulling ONS.if you're there long term you can build a great social circle full of hot girls and guys who don't chase you around the city through night game.

[Dragan]

(06-11-2018 05:38 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

Night game in Belgrade isn't about pulling ONS.if you're there long term you can build a great social circle full of hot girls and guys who don't chase you around the city through night game.

Working on that.

[Dragan]

Tried to game in the park, lo and behold, I run into the girl I was gaming last week whose house I could have gone too. My neighborhood is getting small.

Said I massaged her too hard or some bullshit. Little did she know what I was aware of what happened at her apartment when I left.

Promptly ejected.

[superiorClimber]

Just wanted to give some huge props to Dragan for having the balls to come over to Belgrade to really learn how to game, and to seriously become a man standing on his own two feet aiming for that V card. I've spent some time with him in Serbia, and there are few men I know who have as much courage as him - going to Eastern Europe alone without speaking the native language and without having any type of sponsor supporting his trip. Most of the guys on here don't know how much this forum is changing his life every single day.

[Dragan]

(06-12-2018 01:37 AM)superiorClimber Wrote:  

Just wanted to give some huge props to Dragan for having the balls to come over to Belgrade to really learn how to game, and to seriously become a man standing on his own two feet aiming for that V card. I've spent some time with him in Serbia, and there are few men I know who have as much courage as him - going to Eastern Europe alone without speaking the native language and without having any type of sponsor supporting his trip. Most of the guys on here don't know how much this forum is changing his life every single day.

Thanks man. I've really enjoyed gaming with you and learning from your insights of ukraine/ moldova.

[Dragan]

More gaming today.

First was trying to game by the river, and it was dead because of the heat, nearly 90 degrees F by 4pm. I met my friend and he had met a Russian girl right before I got to him and took her number. I ended up by Kalemagdan and it was also pretty dead. Just a bunch of old tourists. Opened up a set in English trying to take some fake photos next to some girls taking photos. They were a bit outraged we were in the frame of their camera and started talking to them. We asked them to take photos of us and then bantered a bit. We said we should take photos together but the girls were like "we don't know you." And then we introduced ourselves. Anyway, we were trying hard to build comfort with them, and they walked away.

Another set, we sit down by the park bench and try to chat up girls next to us. I open the set and ask for them to tell me the history of kalemagdan, turns out they don't know any history. This set fizzled within five minutes.

Later, we walked to the economics university and it's dead there.

We take a tram back to my neighborhood, and today's the first time I see ticket inspectors. They left us alone, didn't approach us because we spoke english loudly.

Finally, we try to game near the medical faculty, and that's also dead as well.

Lesson learned: don't game when it's hot in Belgrade, especially around 4-5 PM.

[sterling_archer]

(06-12-2018 07:27 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

I open the set and ask for them to tell me the history of kalemagdan, turns out they don't know any history. This set fizzled within five minutes.

That is a small mistake on your part. Most girls and people in general don't know anything about cities they live in except where something is located. It's a shame really but people just don't care to get informed, especially girls who pretty much hate history.

[Dragan]

(06-13-2018 12:53 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

(06-12-2018 07:27 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

I open the set and ask for them to tell me the history of kalemagdan, turns out they don't know any history. This set fizzled within five minutes.

That is a small mistake on your part. Most girls and people in general don't know anything about cities they live in except where something is located. It's a shame really but people just don't care to get informed, especially girls who pretty much hate history.

Yep. It was hilarious they knew exactly nothing about the fortress.

[Dragan]

More approaches, will just talk about the most interesting one.

I walked to a university, went into the university and started gaming.

Told the girls I was an exchange student studying hydroelectric engineering and that I was from Louisiana. It went really well because they study architecture and in a past life, I was very nearly an architect (long story). Anyway, I had fun chatting with them about Frank Lloyd Wright and shit like that. The set went really bad as soon as my wing came by, and used the same name as I had used to introduce myself.

Fuck!

[JohnKreese]

On the first page of the thread, I mentioned that it might be easier to live near Knez or Dorcol (areas close to where you seem to be gaming a lot now). I take it you decided to live closer to Sava Church, so a bit of a hike or transit required all the time.

If this is the case, have you take the advice to game at Tasmajdan pool? Much closer to the cathedral. Tons of girls escaping the heat. It would seem to fit your style since they sell booze there and you don't have to worry about adopting EE style since everyone is in bathing suits (you have been going to the gym and not just eating crap, right?)

[Dragan]

(06-13-2018 01:48 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  

On the first page of the thread, I mentioned that it might be easier to live near Knez or Dorcol (areas close to where you seem to be gaming a lot now). I take it you decided to live closer to Sava Church, so a bit of a hike or transit required all the time.

If this is the case, have you take the advice to game at Tasmajdan pool? Much closer to the cathedral. Tons of girls escaping the heat. It would seem to fit your style since they sell booze there and you don't have to worry about adopting EE style since everyone is in bathing suits (you have been going to the gym and not just eating crap, right?)

No, I always decided against both those places the last time I was here. There's where most forum members stay, but it never felt right for me. I game across the whole city and go on half-day long gaming expeditions so I don't mind the transit. Dorcol is too sleepy, and Knez is too full of daygamers so neither is really of use to me for living situation. Yeah I'm closer to Sava.

I need to go to the pool, I was just talking with a friend about gaming at the pool today, so I'm gonna take not of what you're telling me now. Not much of a drinker anymore... I've been eating healthier and doing a lot of cardio, getting a gym membership here this week to start weight training. Also some tennis, gonna throw that in too.

[Beirut]

Any particular reason you went clown mode there Dragan?