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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Wanted to pay it forward to you guys, so here's a Belgrade datasheet from my time living there (4 months) as an American. Please forgive me for any errors, or lack of familiarity with correct formatting (still new). This datasheet will be in multiple parts, Part I, below, will cover some general stuff, food, bars, clubs, etc. Part two will address women, Serbian men, and some other related observations. If anyone has any further interest in the Balkans I can publish a datasheet for Macedonia as well.

Belgrade
What a place, I highly recommend it, it stacks up favorably with basically all Western European cities, and in my humble opinion is even competitive in terms of nightlife/partying to Berlin. Let me hit on the highlights of Belgrade before I get deeper into the review: very low cost of living when compared to US/ Canada, Western Europe, and Central Europe; the partying never stops, and there's a great cafe culture here. Also, thin, beautiful Slavic women. In my opinion, Belgrade is not enough on the radar of people that are looking for an out of the way destination (think :Ukraine, Russia, etc.).

Culture
I will touch on this first, because I think Belgrade is seriously deficient in “high” culture, when compared to many Western European cities. Although, I think Belgrade makes up for it with nightlife and food. That being said, Serbia has a rich history and Belgrade is at the center of what was the former Yugoslavia. You have a city with 1 million plus, so there certainly culture here, in my experience Serbs are big on the partying. Granted, there is a symphony here, museums, art galleries, etc. here. I just can't comment much on the culture.

Language
Everyone under 30 speaks English for the most part. Serbian is a hard language to learn, only recommend it if you’re going to be staying long term. A lot of the older generation has some understanding of English as well.

Safety/Scams
Safer in my opinion than most Western European cities. Belgrade has it’s share of Roma people that will beg on public transit, ask for cigarettes, etc. Just ignore them. Pickpocketing is not very prevalent.

Football hooliganism is a serious problem. Games are generally safe to go to if you have a desire, but there is a heavy police presence. The big game (Red Star vs. Partizan) is crazy. Serbia has some of the most hardcore hooligans/ultras in the world. Avoid wearing jerseys and encounters with groups of football fans outside of the stadium.

Don’t pick fights with Serbians or disrespect them. These guys know how to fight. Serbian guys are generally pretty cool guys.

The big scam is the taxi scam, whereby you arrive at the airport and some guy offers you a taxi ride. Don’t do this, get the kiosk at the airport to get you a taxi. It should only cost 30-40USD to get to the center of Belgrade from the airport. You can take the bus to the city center for less than 10 bucks.

People are poor here, so be mindful of this when dealing with people you don’t know. This is a country that mainly uses cash. Don’t flash your cash, etc.

Where to stay
Hotels are cheaper than Western Europe. I recommend AirBnB. Prices are going to be about 30-40 a night for city center apartments. Avoid staying in New Belgrade, because this is on the other side of the river, and too far removed from the majority of the city/ all the hotspots. Look at a map of Belgrade, and try to find a place close to the city center, that way you can walk or take public transit around town. I recommend Vracar, as I will explain later.

Transport
Buses are reliable and used my most natives. No one buys a ticket. I never saw an inspector in 4 months. If you encounter an inspector get off the bus, and if they bother you, tell them to fuck off. Legally they’re not allowed to detain you or to take your documents. If you want to be less confrontational, feign ignorance of bus procedures. Trams are used by lots of people too, it just depends on where you’re going if you have to take the tram or the bus. You can get away with drinking on the bus, I was never once bothered by anyone for drinking.

Taxis can be called by phone, which may ensure you don’t get ripped off and get to your destination with no problem (esp. bc of language barrier with some taxi drivers). The dispatcher is way more likely to speak English than the taxi driver. Taxis are cheap and generally safe to hail from the street. Watch out for the driver messing with the meter. I never had a taxi more expensive than 10 bucks. Make sure they give you all your change, sometimes they purposely short you money.

No Uber or Lyft in Belgrade.

Food/ Dining
This is one of Belgrade's strong suits, and that's for two reasons. One, high quality food here that's farmed locally/ non-GMO/ essentially organic. Two, very low cost compared to western standards.

Food costs at the supermarket prices are pretty low if you eat like a Serbian. I found that cheese, items from western Europe, and some types of meat are pricey—everything else is favorably priced when compared to North America/Western Europe. You should definitely check out open air markets (basically farmer’s markets) for fresh produce and alcohol.

Here’s a few restaurants in no random order that I recommend:

Ambar- This is kind of a bougie place but in all honesty it’s arguably one of the top five restaurants in all of Belgrade. On top of that, it serves Serbian food. Food is tapas style, so I recommend ordering 5-6 dishes per person, (30-40 USD approx..) or ordering the Ambar train which is roughly 30USD, for that price you get as many dishes as you can eat. Finally the décor is just great, it’s situated in a former warehouse on the river, and is in one of the most fashionable restaurant complexes in all of Belgrade. You’ll get a great view, and this place is really popular with the elites in Belgrade. You may also run into a model or a local Serbian popstar.

Baltazar- This is a Serbian restaurant specializing in grilled meats. This was my go-to spot for four months here. The place is always full, and the food is really well priced—i.e. 3-5 dollars for a main. I recommend the kilogram of chicken wings, which is just fantastic; the cevapi, and the pljeskavica. If you’re big on grilled meat, get the combo mixed meat plate—one kg of all sorts of grilled meat.

Stefan Vajat- This is a fast food place, but Serbian style fast food. It’s about 2 dollars for a pljeskavica on a bun (which is a Serbian hamburger made with a mix of pork/beef). This is a really good place for drunk food, and open all the time. Outdoor seating (picnic tables) only. I’ve been told by many of my friends that it’s the best place for Serbian fast food in the capitol.

Restoran Caruso- Quite a nice place and reasonably priced, with a wide variety of Serbian and Western European dishes. This is a great place to take a date because it’s on the 7th story of a building near the main square. Very nice atmosphere with panoramic views of the city. Reservations are recommended.

In addition, 24/7 bakeries can be found on most corners, and they’re a fantastic place to get a slice of burek and a yogurt (it’s like a meat pie) for a dollar. Fantastic for hangovers or drunk food.

Bars/ Clubs
First, a caveat, I’m not one for clubs or fancy cocktail bars, and I’m more of a pub regular. That being said, here’s a few good places. Most bars close at midnight to 2 am, and there are some bars that are open later. Clubs may be open until sunrise, or even later.

Pejton Pub- This is a chill basement pub for casual drinking. They have Serbian craft beer and also liters or Paulaner for about 6USD. On weekend nights turns into a club with live music, no cover, after around 9.

Café Clinique- This café/ cocktail bar epitomizes the café culture in Belgrade, has a great patio, and is great for people watching. Kind of a fancier place, with good views of Belgrade’s main church and the park surrounding it.

20/44 Club- This is one of Belgrade’s most famous river boat clubs, or splavs. 80s music, house, fairly pedestrian music. Tends to be packed during summer and there’s a decent mix of Western Europeans and locals. Cover runs like 4 bucks. I recommend visiting at least once, or visiting another splav in the general area.

World Traveler’s Association—Cool hidden basement bar in the city center. Not loud at all, and a good place to take groups or to smoke hookah.

KST Club—This place is awesome. The cover is a few dollars. And they always seem to be open. It’s in the basement of a university, and the crowd is definitely young and local. There’s a wide variety of music and they have multiple rooms.

Sinnermans jazz club—Great rooftop bar with a lot of live music. Only downside is I saw a lot of couples here.

Kafana SFRJ—Popular with the backpacking crowd, but also with Serbs. Cool thing about this place is it pays homage to Yugoslavia, so definitely gives you an old-world vibe.

Expect to pay $1.50-$3 for a beer. $3-$5 for a cocktail. $1-$3 for coffee/coffee items. Try the rakia at least once, a shot is $1-$2. It’s essentially 40%+ homemade brandy. If you happen to befriend a Serb, they can help you get a bottle of the homemade stuff for 5-10 bucks. Avoid the stuff sold at the store, it’s crap and lower quality than homemade rakia. Homemade rakia is safe to drink because people know what they’re doing when making it. The water is safe to drink out of the faucet in Belgrade.

Parts of town to see
Republika Square—This is basically the Times Square of Belgrade. Huge pedestrian mall, and most of the daygaming being done by dudes is being done here. Large selection of bars, restaurants, and stores here.

Zemun—This part of Belgrade is a bit of a drive from the city center, but it’s beautiful. The architecture is Austro-Hungarian, and is a welcome relief from the socialist architecture that plagues Belgrade. One of the highest points in Belgrade is here, and you get great views of the two rivers and the city.

Kalemagden Fortress—Visit it. It’s Belgrade’s premier landmark .Great views of the river.

Vracar—This is the nice part of town, and has a lot of cool restaurants and bars. Great for people watching. I recommend living here because this is the nicest municipality in Belgrade, and girls will definitely take notice if you tell them this is where your spot is located. This is also a very safe, well-policed area. A lot of new, nice apartments can be found here.

Skadarlija—This is a pedestrian district with lots of old buildings and restaurants with traditional Serbian live music. Good place for a date or to take a group for some traditional food.

St. Sava’s Cathedral and St. Mark’s Cathedral- These are the two big churches in Belgrade, and both have great parks that are perfect for casual drinking, day-game, or people-watching.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Let's get to the good stuff, the women! I don't think anyone is going to Belgrade for the sights lol. Bring on part 2.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Women
For reference, I’ve been to most of Western Europe, most of the US, and also Poland. I would say prior to living in Belgrade, Polish women were the best, but now, I would say Serbian women are better because virtually none of them are fat, and also I consider Serbia to be less Westernized than Poland. I’ll explain why in a second.

To start, a lot of natural brunettes, and a lot of brunettes that have dyed their hair blonde. Did not see many women with short hair or skrillex haircuts at all. Height is frequently mentioned about women in Serbia, but I never noticed, being 6’1” myself. If I had to guess the women were between 5-5” and 5-9” on average, but I never felt like the women were abnormally tall.

No fatties present, Serbs are highly critical of fat women, and basically all the chicks I saw under 30 were thin, which automatically gives them more attractiveness than the average American woman. When you compare Belgrade to Poland, you find there’s a lot of overweight, but not fat women in Poland. Compare Belgrade to Western Europe, and the majority of women are overweight, or fat.

As far as bodies are concerned, thin figure in general. Average breasts because Serbian girls aren’t carrying any fat at all. Although there are a minority of girls with big boobs or fake ones. Asses are on the small end, although you will see some genetically gifted girls.

Faces of Serbian girls are very chiseled, and if I may say so, very defined and angular. Don’t know how else to describe. Especially the chin area, or lower jaw, which can almost look masculine. But in general, really good faces.

Serbian girls know how to use makeup to their advantage so if you seem them on a night they’re going out, you’re going to be impressed. Not so much makeup used during the day.

Western dress looks like it’s becoming more common, so a lot of girls wear t shirts, sneakers, jeans, during the day, but overall you will see a lot of beautifully dressed women during the day wearing dresses and heels.

Tattoos, not so common at all. Nothing like America, Germany, England at all where it’s super common with women. I did not see nearly as many facial piercings or excessive ear piercings as I have in other places.

Phones are becoming a problem—Seeing way too many girls here Snapchatting and instagramming excessively, just like American girls would. iPhones are a big deal, and people definitely notice if you have one. I think every girl here aspires to have an iPhone. Also seems to me like every Serbian girl has faux-model photos on her social media. I think the girls know they look good, and they have no shortage of likes on these photos from male friends.

All the girls I kept company with did not seem like alcoholics at all to me, when compared to western girls. They would usually get one cocktail for the night and slowly drink it. This may have something to do with low wages in Serbia, though. Didn’t see any girls drink beer or whiskey or anything masculine like that. I do think the girls like tequila though, they would always take shots of that-- I think it’s the go-to girl partying drink. A lot of times my male friends and I would be drinking alcohol, while the girls drank Coke or Nescafe.

Serbian and Balkan girls in general have a fondness for their native-language music, so they like the ballads and the songs about alcoholic boyfriends… If you have some knowledge of Serbian/Balkan music, that’s definitely a plus…

TV/Western films is a good thing to talk about, because a lot of girls here are watching American TV and films on Netflix. If you’re a foreigner you can also ask about good clubs, bars and restaurants because the girls in Belgrade love to go out. They also love their cafes. Going to cafes is practically the national pastime of Serbia, esp. for girls.

Not as outwardly promiscuous as American women or western Europeans. They expect the dude to make the moves and to be assertive. Social circle is best bet to meet girls. You’re not going to have much luck chatting up girls at the club. Both chicks and dudes are suspicious of westerners in Serbia. They have a joke that every Western is a spy, so you have to be able to laugh at yourself. Make it clear you’re there long term or there’s some aspect of Serbian culture you like: the alcohol, the food, the music, the fact that it’s an orthodox christian country, etc. They definitely like strong men, men who have jobs, tall men, muscular men, men with nice apartments that are worldly, etc.

They also really like the beach. Chances are in the summer (as was the case with me while I was there) that a large portion of the girls are on vacation at the beach. Belgrade has a beach (lake/riverfront) and this is a good place to check out because all the women left in the capitol will spend time here. The rest are partying in Greece (they really love Greece), Montengegro, Croatia (they also looove Croatia), Bulgaria, or Romania. You may have better chances in the summer with women in these destinations than the capitol. I also think they’re more open to meeting strangers when on vacation. Girls in Serbia will open up a lot when you talk about travel because they only get to travel once a year essentially. All the chicks are back by September from vacation, and that’s probably the perfect time to be in Belgrade, because the weather is still mild, and not as hot as August.

I also noticed that if you have a car that helps out a lot. My buddy that had a car had more social status than all the other dudes we were hanging out with, because he could go pick up female friends, and go out with them to bars. Keep in mind if a family has a car, they have one, and the parents are using it. Gas is expensive. I think also girls hate public transit, so it definitely helps for logistics if you tell them you'll take a taxi instead. It doesn't cost much anyway.

Serb Dudes
Very masculine. Most work out regularly. Seem to clown around a lot, but my perception may be skewed because I had a lot of buddies that were in the 18-25 range. I am reminded of Novak Djokovic’s antics. Crack a lot of jokes, and have a good sense of humor. Can drink more than you for sure. Seem like they never get hangovers.

Solid dudes to hangout with or drink with. Won’t cockblock you or anything like that. They are always complaining about not having a job or enough money. A lot of them I met were into gaming, such as League of Legends, DOTA, etc. They always find money to game somehow… Into sports, especially soccer, basketball tennis, etc. A lot of gamblers too, who place bets on sports matches. They’re great to befriend and they’ll introduce you to all the chicks and friends that they have. A lot have an interest in going to work in Western Europe or the US because of the economic situation, so give them some advise or offer to help them if they need any help. Serb dudes are seriously the coolest nationality I’ve met.

They didn’t seem nearly as tall as I thought they would be, but nonetheless, I think most Serb dues are in 5-10” to 6’ range.

A lot of the younger dudes smoke grass or are into the party/ club scene. There are a lot of dudes doing speed, and a lot of dudes smoking grass in public.

Keep in mind these dudes have been living at "11" since they were 13 or 14, so don't try to keep up with them. You'll find that you're still clubbing at 7am, blacked out drunk, etc, etc. Belgrade is great, but under no circumstances do you want to wake up under a bridge, unless that's you're thing, of course.

If you have any questions about specific topics, aspects of Serbian culture, women, i'm happy to elaborate.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Delete.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Thanks for the sheet. Small remark: taxi to center is fixed at 1800 (or at least it was in june) which is around 18 dollars
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (11-27-2017 06:09 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

Thanks for the sheet. Small remark: taxi to center is fixed at 1800 (or at least it was in june) which is around 18 dollars

Not what i paid. Long story. thanks for that info.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (11-27-2017 06:31 PM)Dragan Wrote:  

Quote: (11-27-2017 06:09 PM)Beirut Wrote:  

Thanks for the sheet. Small remark: taxi to center is fixed at 1800 (or at least it was in june) which is around 18 dollars

Not what i paid. Long story. thanks for that info.

I'm not embarrassed to admit it, but I fell victim to a taxi scam at the airport.

Make sure: 1)That the car has the markings of a taxi, ie it says it's a taxi. 2)Someone gets the taxi for you at the stand at the airport, 3) You pay the fixed fair at the airport. 4) If you have issues, better to call a taxi company in the phone book, and have them come pick you up, the dispatchers speak english.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

This basically sounds like someone that has never been to Belgrade before...
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (03-04-2018 02:22 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

This basically sounds like someone that has never been to Belgrade before...

Then bring something of value, otherwise your post is useless
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My value was calling out this post as boring drivel. He basically says: "oh man, Belgrade, Serbia is better than my town in grassland Idaho". Okay, great! But I live in a penthouse in Manhattan and see top women all the time. So how is Belgrade better than NYC, Miami or Kyiv? Moreover, why is trying to describe all this shit with text? Just post some pictures or video!!!

1. Here we see the Belgrade Fortress. A population location for locals to go for dates.

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2. Here we are riding the bus

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3. Here's a chunky serb

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4. Here's the main bus stop

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5. Here's my dinner

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6. Here's a random chubby I'd like to bang

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[Image: banana.gif]
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (03-04-2018 02:22 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

This basically sounds like someone that has never been to Belgrade before...

It does sound a bit like a guy who lived there just long enough for the new city buzz to never wear off. I lived there over a year in '13-'15 and while the nightlife seems cool on the surface, you eventually realize a high percentage of the attractive women on the splavs/boats are hired to stand around or are at tables with guys who are footing the bill. It just seemed low ROI for quality and a very high sausage fest factor. Unless it has significantly improved (which I doubt from what my friends say), it's far from a huge selling point. The places that are the most mingle friendly like 20/44, Shlep, and KST (this place isn't awesome, come on now) have very mediocre quality.

I want to say it would be better as a long term destination, but then again the quality of life sucks pretty badly and Belgrade is quite dumpy so it doesn't exactly shine there either. It's another place where you have to do the social circle grind for decent results. Even though the English abilities are decent, once you're in a social circle Serbs almost never speak in English with each other (not that I would expect that, but they do it in Western Europe and it makes it much more tolerable long term). If you are at all anti-smoking (smoke is everywhere) or pro-healthy lifestyle you will probably get very frustrated. Flat flabby asses are rampant. I like Serbians and have friends there, but if you ever read a review of Belgrade as a city and it glosses over the major negatives you can safely assume it's biased.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (03-05-2018 09:01 AM)jcardial Wrote:  

Quote: (03-04-2018 02:22 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

This basically sounds like someone that has never been to Belgrade before...

It does sound a bit like a guy who lived there just long enough for the new city buzz to never wear off. I lived there over a year in '13-'15 and while the nightlife seems cool on the surface, you eventually realize a high percentage of the attractive women on the splavs/boats are hired to stand around or are at tables with guys who are footing the bill. It just seemed low ROI for quality and a very high sausage fest factor. Unless it has significantly improved (which I doubt from what my friends say), it's far from a huge selling point. The places that are the most mingle friendly like 20/44, Shlep, and KST (this place isn't awesome, come on now) have very mediocre quality. I had never been there before. The uniqueness of it started to wear off after the weather got cold. Also customer service is a big negative, but if anyone understands EE they would already know that. Also hard to get much work down because it's a party city. The men are really emotional and impulsive, that would be another negative. The corresponding negative for women is that you have to cultivate your social circle to get to them. Nightlife, or at least the splavs is over-rated. If you noticed my first post I pointed out I was not a fan. Forgive me for biased but I liked KST, and found a good party going almost anytime I went. Also, didnt notice any tourists! That's a positive for me. I digress, I'm not as much of a club person, and I mentioned that too.

I want to say it would be better as a long term destination, but then again the quality of life sucks pretty badly and Belgrade is quite dumpy so it doesn't exactly shine there either. It's another place where you have to do the social circle grind for decent results. Even though the English abilities are decent, once you're in a social circle Serbs almost never speak in English with each other (not that I would expect that, but they do it in Western Europe and it makes it much more tolerable long term). If you are at all anti-smoking (smoke is everywhere) or pro-healthy lifestyle you will probably get very frustrated. Flat flabby asses are rampant. I like Serbians and have friends there, but if you ever read a review of Belgrade as a city and it glosses over the major negatives you can safely assume it's biased. The pollution would be a big negative don't know if i mentioned it. The food is healthy, there is just a lot of meat. There aren't many fat serbs, so can't be that hard, can it? I usually assume people on the forum are sort of able to work of the negatives in EE cities, because they're usually understood: low levels of english, ugly looking cities, less hookup culture, high prices for imported goods, people that look angry all the time, poor service, poor business hours, apartments that aren't usually up to american standards, lack of air conditioning....etc.

I was also in Germany when I was writing up this datasheet, so that probably subconsiously influenced me (Germany sucked!)
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Quote: (03-05-2018 07:53 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

My value was calling out this post as boring drivel. He basically says: "oh man, Belgrade, Serbia is better than my town in grassland Idaho". Okay, great! But I live in a penthouse in Manhattan and see top women all the time. So how is Belgrade better than NYC, Miami or Kyiv? Moreover, why is trying to describe all this shit with text? Just post some pictures or video!!!

1. Here we see the Belgrade Fortress. A population location for locals to go for dates.

[Image: aaukqt.jpg]

2. Here we are riding the bus

[Image: fequdt.jpg]

3. Here's a chunky serb

[Image: 23uziit.jpg]

4. Here's the main bus stop

[Image: 33zcinq.jpg]

5. Here's my dinner

[Image: j7u3qb.jpg]

6. Here's a random chubby I'd like to bang

[Image: fa50u8.jpg]

[Image: banana.gif]

I will post some photos, but first I have to cleanse them of the EXIF data, I'm usually hesitant to post photos that could be remotely identifying.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

This is Straževica, this is at the top of the hill, and this was the neighborhood most heavily bombed by NATO. Not visited nearly as much by disaster tourists as the Ministry of Defense in downtown Belgrade. A Yugoslav bunker was located here.
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This is next to Avala tower (the original tower being bombed and rebuilt), this is the tomb to the unknown solider, but there are also war memorials real close. Great peaceful place to visit, on the outskirts of town:
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This is Beton Hala, which has this cool complex of restaurants situated in former shipping warehouses, etc. Ambar is located here, and is a great brand-new development in Belgrade, with some of the finest dining:
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This is Restouran Caruso, which has one of the best views of the city, very near the city center:
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This is KST Club, which I recommended: [Image: KST-2.jpg]

This is 20/44 one of the most notable belgrade clubs:
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St. Sava's church which is a great place for drinking a beer with friends and watch pedestrians:
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Vukov Spomenik, which is a train station, has a park, and a lot of gaming places underground to play DOTA or League of Legends:
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This is slavija, has the oldest mcdonalds in this part of the world, a big fountain, a well-known hotel with a casino, and a bunch of bus stations/ tram stations:

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Skadarlija, nice neighborhood with good food and live music, very walkable:
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@dragan Thanks for the write up, some friends and I wanted to do either Belgrade or Bucharest this summer but from the sounds of it they both clear out in July and August. Would you agree it's not worth setting up shop in Belgrade over those two months? And are there any of those beach towns in particular you would recommend? Thinking maybe stay in a beach town and then go to Belgrade in September.
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Quote: (03-08-2018 05:16 AM)PsychedelicTaser Wrote:  

@dragan Thanks for the write up, some friends and I wanted to do either Belgrade or Bucharest this summer but from the sounds of it they both clear out in July and August. Would you agree it's not worth setting up shop in Belgrade over those two months? And are there any of those beach towns in particular you would recommend? Thinking maybe stay in a beach town and then go to Belgrade in September.

There is plenty of talent in the summer although uni is not in session and people are on vacation. I think that seems to be the consensus. September is nice, as is late august.
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Quote: (03-08-2018 05:16 AM)PsychedelicTaser Wrote:  

@dragan Thanks for the write up, some friends and I wanted to do either Belgrade or Bucharest this summer but from the sounds of it they both clear out in July and August. Would you agree it's not worth setting up shop in Belgrade over those two months? And are there any of those beach towns in particular you would recommend? Thinking maybe stay in a beach town and then go to Belgrade in September.

I'm planning on Budva, Montenegro, or Rijeka Croatia, I've heard good things about both.
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Has the dates for Belgrade been set ?

Let me know as I may pass by.
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I'll be there in roughly a month. Be there all summer.
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@Dragan
Forget about Rijeka, unless you enjoy walking uphill everywhere.

If you want to be in a Croatian city during the summer, Split is a better bet. You still have a shitload of locals in the city (unlike Zagreb), and the (party) island of Hvar is near.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Just an idea. Not finalized at all.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

I'm updating this datasheet (May-June 2018 Update):

Women
They are as beautiful as ever and the city has not yet cleared out for the summer.

I'm at over 100 approaches finally, so I have a better reference point when talking about women here. I've done so many more approaches here in Belgrade than in the states. A lot of my approaches have been 2 women at once.

The biggest challenge you will face is English. About half the women don't speak English. If you can deal with this, you are already half-way to success.

Don't speak about American culture, unless the girl is interested in it. Find something else to talk about.

Numbers aren't hard to get if you put in the effort. The hard part starts with setting up dates/ texting when they get flaky. This is beyond my realm of expertise but there's good advise on the forum about avoiding flakes and setting up dates via text.

I can't game American women anymore. The quality here is too good.

Forum members I have met here have said Serbian girls have nice asses.

I think it's much better to say that you are in Belgrade long term, it just seems to get a better response.

Food

McDek- Great spot, if I'm not mistaken there are several of them in Belgrade. They do some fantastic Serbian fast food. Cheap as hell.

Intergallactic Diner- American style diner. Several in Belgrade. Cool place to chill at. Open around the clock.

Pizza Bar- Nice place, really popular with the richer crowd. Great for people watching and not a bad place at all to pick up women. They have good entres too.

Bars

Излог-Adding this place to the rotation, really nice 24 hour bar. Fancy.

Vronski- Also added this place to the rotation. Draws some really hot women on busy nights.

Bar Kucica- Karaoke bar! Great place on weekend to pickup artistic types. Fun atmosphere.

Drvo Javorovo- Great neighborhood bar. Awesome for pre-gaming.

Clubs

Freestyler- Pretty cool club, packed, but hard to game in. On the river.

Drugstore- Has apparently gone down in quality recently, is on the edge of town, and is only sporadically open.

Turbo folk clubs- I hate these places, you're gonna have little success picking up, and only going to be at one of these places really late when you're fucked up.

KST- Can be really hit or miss if you're not there on the weekend.

Parks

I'm gonna refrain from naming places, because almost all are good places to pickup. Just find one near you. Especially one close to universities.

Parts of Town

Zemun- Really cool place to hang out, great views of the city, lot of nice restaurants and cafes by the river, just takes a while to get there.

Kalemagdan- You can game here but it is hit or miss depending on the day. Lot of foreign tourists here.

University campuses- There are a ton, they are great places to game.

Banjica- Sort of a no-man's land for foreigners, but a lot of hot girls here. Maybe worth gaming here if you live there. Really cheap area of town.

Dorcol- Is sleepy as hell, but a nice part of town. Been gaming here, not bad results at all. Lots of nice cafes and restaurants.

Other useful info- Cigarette prices have gone up, anywhere between 20 to 60 cents depending on type of cigs. Use Car Go instead of a taxi to avoid scams, sort of a serbian uber. Ride the bus, you don't need a ticket, and I've only seen an inspector once ever. Worth the risk honestly.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

How useful is knowing Russian here when girls don't know English?
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Quote: (06-15-2018 04:15 AM)369eyedea Wrote:  

How useful is knowing Russian here when girls don't know English?
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Not that useful unless they're studying Russian. Everyone is learning english now, but in the old days a lot of that generation learned Russian.
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Belgrade, Serbia Summer '17 Datasheet

Hey rooshers, I am in Belgrade now and plan to stay for 2 weeks (until around 9/10/18). if you are here and need a wing please send me a PM.
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