[LatinoHeat]

Watched his vids, seems like typical pickup artist bro, nothing out of the ordinary.

Maybe he says some stuff thats a little cultural insensitive that i probably wouldn't want to put my face behind on video on youtube but to each his own.

Sounds like some of ya'll a little jelly like "just pisses me off how that dude just goes and approaches women without fear like he doens't give a fuck" hmmm . Wish I had the balls to just go up to any random hot chick in a mall and tell her she looks good and keep the convo going. Few times I tried doing that with a dating coach in the background I nearly had a panic attack, its not easy. its certainly a lot easier to talk shit behind a keyboard then it is to cold approach women in malls succesfully while filming it.

Honestly his style reminds me a lot of RVFers pickup style that i've met in person. He goes in does the direct approach solidly, why all the hate?

Then again why bother doing "pickup" videos in Jakarta or Manila where its so ridiculously easy. Its like making a video on how to peel a banana or tie your shoe. I guess the guy just doesn't care, he's out in se asia, having fun, recording it and doing his thing.

Maybe this guy isn't everyone's styles but the guys done nothing wrong. The sex tourist thing is bullshit, and even if it wasn't, so what, i'm not a p4p guy but if anyone else is all the power to them.

[LatinoHeat]

(10-09-2017 01:42 PM)zoom Wrote:  

The thread title sounds like a headline from Jezebel or another SJW website. I'm not sure why you want to put him on blast.

For real bro just thinking the same thing, like wtf people saying "fuck this sex tourist" "he should get banned from japan" etc etc, wtf?

[John Michael Kane]

Quote:

Discretion is an underestimated virtue in game. Bond will get what's coming to him.

[asdfk]

Just watched some of his videos again. David, do you ask the girls permission to publish videos of them on your channel?

[yankeetravels]

I don't get the people here who are calling for Bond's head. Admittedly, he has probably not helped our reputation in Asia, but at the end of the day, he's one of us. A western male that recognizes there are better opportunities for women in the east than at home and is probably smart enough not to marry the wrong one and keep harems while he's single. Also, he promotes a message to take advantage of your younger years and not get trapped in a corporate cubicle which I like as well.

Seriously the people siding with the British guy, wtf. That British dude is literally no better than the asshole in this video below who threatened to dox a Trump supporter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gwHhNatuXg

Threatening to dox someone because of their beliefs and/or legal hobbies is just wrong. I'm not sure what they're trying to say Bond did, but I've seen his videos, and the worst thing he seems to have done is publicly admit he had an international harem and that controversial video about his friend stealing a Hong Kong girl from a local (which btw was honestly just Asia propaganda against white males who fuck local chicks).

I hate dudes who dox other guys just for getting some. They're blue pill to the max that it creates stupid danger and it's also ignorant because the British guy seems to assume that because he's in all these Asian countries and used a fake name on YouTube that he has some sort of illegal prostitution set-up going on. Seriously, the dude sounds crazy.

Guys, think twice about calling for Bond's head. It would start with public figures like him that may not help our reputation, but what about the rest of us anonymous western guys who like to have casual and/or romantic relationships with the local eastern women? Don't let it become the rape culture of the west.

[Svara]

(10-09-2017 02:06 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

he has probably not helped our reputation in Asia, but at the end of the day, he's one of us.

I hate dudes who dox other guys just for getting some.

The British dude seems like a long term sexpat and maybe he's pissed that the whole local sexpat community will suffer as a result of one little dude who comes 3 weeks and makes videos which are an insult to the way things work in Asia (culture of "face", etc)... So, Mapel is not with us, he's against us.

+ his name has been available for over a year on youtube apparently - the British guy didn't doxx him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkW985-Phis&t=14s
Seems that guy has been making an ass out of himself for years now so its not a novelty. I just posted this story as an example for all that it's better not act like a piece of shit while sexpatting in Asia. It's just common sense, really.

[Foolsgo1d]

Making issues with the locals in Asia? You're going to have a bad time.

[Sherman]

I miss the good old days when there weren't any youtube stars.

[Going strong]

(10-09-2017 02:18 PM)Svara Wrote:  

the whole local sexpat community will suffer as a result of one little dude who comes 3 weeks and makes videos which are an insult to the way things work in Asia (culture of "face", etc)... So, Mapel is not with us, he's against us.

I just posted this story as an example for all that it's better not act like a piece of shit while sexpatting in Asia. It's just common sense, really.

while sexpatting in Asia: I had to laugh: a rather ugly and inadequate terminology, but still, it's funny... "sexpatting in Asia", I had never heard that one.

Anyway, "obnoxious" dudes with many videos of them gaming Asian woman in the streets, are not beneficial to us, but they are no big deal (even though yes, they occasionally do awake racist feelings in some low-value local males).

The people who are big (bad) deal, because they are much more numerous, and actually even more obnoxious even though they would like to go unnoticed, are the many still young, quite tall and handsome, Westerners who go about in Asia with sub-par chicks. Those put shame to us all Westerners, I see tons of them in Asia: dudes with a SMV of say 7, walking SEA streets and malls with 4,5 Asian chicks. Shame on them much more than on "obnoxious video-dudes".

For example, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Brit white-knight dude from the video (sneaky dude who managed to pronounce like ten times the real name of David Bond, even discussing his exact pronunciation), being with a sub-par Zuckerberg-chick-like Asian girlfriend. That would explain his hatred of other (obnoxious or not) foreigners who aim higher...

OP: "But, I didn't dox anyone, my motives are pure!"

[CJ_W]

(10-09-2017 01:27 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Especially in Asian countries, where savvy visitors know about "face" and how it works, you don't make a point of bragging about conquests in YouTube videos and just expect the locals to be okay about that. Shows a lack of curiosity and understanding regarding Asian cultures on his part.

THIS 100%! People DIE over shit like this in Asia(especially China). This is one of the reasons why I don't like Serptenza much, the dude KNOWS that while he's "honestly reporting" about China, that his negative videos are like slapping the face of the Chinese(to the Chinese), dude gets harassed by government officials, sent death threats and still does it like he's invincible or something.

Thing is , the dude should know how "face" works in China, and stop. But no. He has to intentionally make things harder for himself. People like this deserve all the trouble they get. Some people think stupidity is worth it, then when something bad happens to them because of it they cry and whine on the internet.

It's ridiculous. THAT and you poison the well for others after you. That's not what this forum is about. People like "david bond" is why people don't post the GOOD datasheets on the forum anymore, and why I ignore people asking me questions about certain areas unless I have already met them, or have contributed a lot to the forum. (Or both)

People like David Bond make others who have the knowledge pull up the ladders after climbing over the wall. Yes, the forum is about travel and exploring the women there, but it IS NOT ABOUT DISRESPECTING the countries you visit. Period. David bond is doing that 100% and making the forum and it's members look bad, hell, it's like he's not giving us at RvF "Face" either.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a ban sometime in the near future.

[Going strong]

CJ_W, your post certainly contains lot of truth, even though you might, I don't know, exaggerate a little bit the impact of the "video dudes", but my point is: It is still not a reason to publish the real passport name of a player, even a (seemingly, I don't know his videos) obnoxious or nefarious one... Let's criticize bad players as much as we want and they deserve, but without publishing names or linking to videos doxing them...

[Il Bersagliere]

I honestly doubt that's his real name.

[Roosh]

If Bond was doing videos in the same city as me, I wouldn't be pleased. I understand that some men teach game for a living, but don't poison the well for everyone.

[CJ_W]

(10-09-2017 06:49 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

CJ_W, your post certainly contains lot of truth, even though you might, I don't know, exaggerate a little bit the impact of the "video dudes", but my point is: It is still not a reason to publish the real passport name of a player, even a (seemingly, I don't know his videos) obnoxious or nefarious one... Let's criticize bad players as much as we want and they deserve, but without publishing names or linking to videos doxing them...

You're right, didn't realize he was doxxed (missed that part) but still I assume that wasn't done by people like us, but by the locals themselves(from what svara said). . .which is kind of what you would expect if you do shit like this. (This has happened before - Septentza is an example, and he doesn't even talk about girls, he just talks about all the positives and negatives about china, and he got doxxed once he talked too much about certain topics negatively and got stalked and nearly fired from his job along with having "meetings" with Chinese communist government officials) Asia is not the U.S. or the west. You can't just do this stuff without excepting repercussions, no matter if they are moral or not. You can't even act like you would in the west. Now I'm not saying treat yourself as a second class citizen here, but really, you have to be CAREFUL.

This guy is being careless. Not everyone is a paragon of morality. . .in ANY community, much less ours. It's a man's responsibility to protect himself (and service the community that has helped and nourished him with advice and information. Not poison and bring danger to it.)

"Face" in Asia is extremely important. I'm not exaggerating about this. cause the people in the wrong part of China, Japan, SEA to "lose face". and you may lose a lot more than you thought you would.

[Going strong]

(10-09-2017 08:09 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 06:49 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

CJ_W, your post certainly contains lot of truth, even though you might, I don't know, exaggerate a little bit the impact of the "video dudes", but my point is: It is still not a reason to publish the real passport name of a player, even a (seemingly, I don't know his videos) obnoxious or nefarious one... Let's criticize bad players as much as we want and they deserve, but without publishing names or linking to videos doxing them...

You're right, didn't realize he was doxxed (missed that part) but still I assume that wasn't done by people like us, but by the locals themselves(from what svara said). . .which is kind of what you would expect if you do shit like this. (This has happened before - Septentza is an example, and he doesn't even talk about girls, he just talks about all the positives and negatives about china, and he got doxxed once he talked too much about certain topics negatively and got stalked and nearly fired from his job along with having "meetings" with Chinese communist government officials) Asia is not the U.S. or the west. You can't just do this stuff without excepting repercussions, no matter if they are moral or not. You can't even act like you would in the west. Now I'm not saying treat yourself as a second class citizen here, but really, you have to be CAREFUL.

This guy is being careless. Not everyone is a paragon of morality. . .in ANY community, much less ours. It's a man's responsibility to protect himself (and service the community that has helped and nourished him with advice and information. Not poison and bring danger to it.)

"Face" in Asia is extremely important. I'm not exaggerating about this. cause the people in the wrong part of China, Japan, SEA to "lose face". and you may lose a lot more than you thought you would.

I agree with your post, and this is why I don't see myself relocating full-time to Asia. Clearly, a Westerner will always remain an obvious outsider there, and will always have to be careful and respectful, 24/7... (Asians are right by the way, in their behavior and treatment of foreigners...)

Anyway, that is why I think relocating to Asia full-time is a mistake for non-billionaire Westerners. As said today on another thread, we White Conservative men only have the following options for re-rooting (long-term or definitive relocation) ourselves: Poland-Hungary-Bulgaria-Rumania or Argentina-Uruguay-Chile (or the Midwest USA while President Trump is in charge).
SEA is great, but short or medium-term stay, as we always need to stay on our guard regarding "face" and acceptance by the locals, there.

[TravelerKai]

(10-09-2017 06:37 PM)CJ_W Wrote:  

(10-09-2017 01:27 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Especially in Asian countries, where savvy visitors know about "face" and how it works, you don't make a point of bragging about conquests in YouTube videos and just expect the locals to be okay about that. Shows a lack of curiosity and understanding regarding Asian cultures on his part.

THIS 100%! People DIE over shit like this in Asia(especially China). This is one of the reasons why I don't like Serptenza much, the dude KNOWS that while he's "honestly reporting" about China, that his negative videos are like slapping the face of the Chinese(to the Chinese), dude gets harassed by government officials, sent death threats and still does it like he's invincible or something.

Thing is , the dude should know how "face" works in China, and stop. But no. He has to intentionally make things harder for himself. People like this deserve all the trouble they get. Some people think stupidity is worth it, then when something bad happens to them because of it they cry and whine on the internet.

It's ridiculous. THAT and you poison the well for others after you. That's not what this forum is about. People like "david bond" is why people don't post the GOOD datasheets on the forum anymore, and why I ignore people asking me questions about certain areas unless I have already met them, or have contributed a lot to the forum. (Or both)

People like David Bond make others who have the knowledge pull up the ladders after climbing over the wall. Yes, the forum is about travel and exploring the women there, but it IS NOT ABOUT DISRESPECTING the countries you visit. Period. David bond is doing that 100% and making the forum and it's members look bad, hell, it's like he's not giving us at RvF "Face" either.

I wouldn't be surprised if he gets a ban sometime in the near future.

I will say this. If you have something good to share, that is dangerous in the wrong hands, put it in the private section.

Anyone with a post count high enough to see it has probably contributed. Someone like Bond has 20 posts. He would have to post a lot more increasing his chances of getting banned for something dumb.

Don't see guys like him and think you cannot help out the guys. We have tools and other ways to share intel on the forum.

[Fortis]

I originally had a long post that got deleted when my internet dropped. Shame.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that it's very easy to write this off as "lololol why are you guys so jelly of david bond!" but that is laughably inaccurate and I think many of the guys saying things like that have never been to asia.

There seems to be a bit of contention around the idea of locals taking revenge. The revenge might not come in the form of a stabbing but it may come in the form of local legislation that forces foreign drinking establishments out of business and things like that. The Chinese, in particular, are not above such things if they think visitors are getting unruly.

I could rattle off 10 china players who could be affected by the actions of a character like David Bond. THey poison the well for us. I have many stories about foreigners doing these sorts of things over the last two years and we have felt it.

Shenzhen has many locally-hosted pool parties that we are not invited to. Why?

Foreigners fuck girls in the public pools and don't get invited back. This also cuts into the business of the foreign establishment who was hosting the alcohol for the events and everything.

This is not just some dude having fun and a bunch of guys being jealous. We're a player community FFS. I could name at least 5 dudes in China right now that you all know who pull better quality than David Bond without fucking it all up for everyone else.

Bottomline: you don't have to act like a buffoon to get laid in places like China. Actually, acting like a normal guy gets you further with hotter girls. There is no jealousy here, just concern that someone is fucking up a good thing for us in the long run. Some of us do live here long-term and it sucks seeing some moron burn shit down for us.

There is a reason guys don't share as much as we would all like to. No one wants a David bond running up in their favorite bar or club and making foreigners look bad. I know I don't.

[Svoboda]

Watched the videos.
Are we all banging more or less the same chicks in SEA?
This makes me think if we change the 6 degrees of separation, into 6 bangs of separation most of the members that have traveled in SEA are connected.

On that note:

[Cr33pin]

(10-09-2017 11:08 AM)DavidBond Wrote:  

Why would a guy who likes to travel and meet girls be banned on a forum full of guys who like to travel & meet girls?

One of the reasons I came here was the things you guys said about jakarta lol

[Foolsgo1d]

(10-10-2017 12:12 AM)Svoboda Wrote:  

Watched the videos.
Are we all banging more or less the same chicks in SEA?
This makes me think if we change the 6 degrees of separation, into 6 bangs of separation most of the members that have traveled in SEA are connected.

On that note:

And by safe sex, don't piss off communists or tribal people who will fuck you up.

[Newguy101]

This. He made a big mistake hitting a muslim nation. Think itll be bigger due to that and the momentum of those rsd guys in japan and china i belive.
http://www.returnofkings.com/99041/6-myt...heast-asia
Like to quote from the top comment here of that article which i too noticed on the campus.
Asian girls seem to be caring less about western white males now. They are getting richer more nationalistic and look down on those wmaf couples they see back home.
They see them as poor slutty self hatin sell outs with some arrogant douche or wierdo that couldnt make it at home.....basically eliots dad or whatever equivalent.
I was talking to upper class indoneisan girl with an austrian stepdad. She had friends pumped an dumped by aussies some had betas they could leech off of and they have resentment nit just for white males but westerners as well.
Basically see them as pathetic richboys or douches that come to con and use.

This situation was bound to pop since many guys feel thet got the "white god factor" in asia and now they are picking up on it. Think matt forny said some white guys get so arrogant in philipines ir thailand that theyll throw theitheir drink at a girl whose with her bf for rejecting him cuz he has so much abundance.

2nd and 3rd world girls are gonna be more distrustful of foreigners more then ever....now youll be that "international player".
I dont think asia or other parts of the world whom be very qui k to pick this up will be "white mans playground" like back in the 90s.

Well have to work harder then a local not just cuz of this but what the trend is as well. This a symptom of whats happening. And its only gonna escalade.

Best game i can say. Game in your backyard out of your major city.
I can confirm it roosh and ghostofjefferson can too. Girls in small towns an cities are way better then city girls from non western countries.

[Newguy101]

Have to agree. We are becoming what we fight or hate.
Double down not act like were shocked and doing damage control.
Why cannabilize each other its no different from datasheets and artickes and comments pop up and guess what we critique the culture and some would blatenly and offensively criticise when its unneccassary.
If he poisiomed the well ......then us and other writers been dropping cyanide drop by drop while supposedly dumped a bottle of bleach.
Hell roosh rsd forny nn krauser and many others caused sparks and this info will pass around. May as well stand by it.

[Fortis]

(10-10-2017 06:20 PM)Newguy101 Wrote:  

Have to agree. We are becoming what we fight or hate.
Double down not act like were shocked and doing damage control.
Why cannabilize each other its no different from datasheets and artickes and comments pop up and guess what we critique the culture and some would blatenly and offensively criticise when its unneccassary.
If he poisiomed the well ......then us and other writers been dropping cyanide drop by drop while supposedly dumped a bottle of bleach.
Hell roosh rsd forny nn krauser and many others caused sparks and this info will pass around. May as well stand by it.

So, we should stand by DB because if we criticize him we're adding more fuel to the fire? I do agree that we should not add more fuel to the fire, but I don't see how standing by this guy helps us in anyway. He ain't one of us.

[Il Bersagliere]

I double dog dare him to come try that Steve Mapel shit in Cebu. That shit will get you axed so quickly here it'll make your head spin.

[Ouroboros]

(10-10-2017 06:02 PM)Newguy101 Wrote:  

This. He made a big mistake hitting a muslim nation. Think itll be bigger due to that and the momentum of those rsd guys in japan and china i belive.
http://www.returnofkings.com/99041/6-myt...heast-asia
Like to quote from the top comment here of that article which i too noticed on the campus.
Asian girls seem to be caring less about western white males now. They are getting richer more nationalistic and look down on those wmaf couples they see back home.
They see them as poor slutty self hatin sell outs with some arrogant douche or wierdo that couldnt make it at home.....basically eliots dad or whatever equivalent.
I was talking to upper class indoneisan girl with an austrian stepdad. She had friends pumped an dumped by aussies some had betas they could leech off of and they have resentment nit just for white males but westerners as well.
Basically see them as pathetic richboys or douches that come to con and use.

This situation was bound to pop since many guys feel thet got the "white god factor" in asia and now they are picking up on it. Think matt forny said some white guys get so arrogant in philipines ir thailand that theyll throw theitheir drink at a girl whose with her bf for rejecting him cuz he has so much abundance.

2nd and 3rd world girls are gonna be more distrustful of foreigners more then ever....now youll be that "international player".
I dont think asia or other parts of the world whom be very qui k to pick this up will be "white mans playground" like back in the 90s.

Well have to work harder then a local not just cuz of this but what the trend is as well. This a symptom of whats happening. And its only gonna escalade.

Best game i can say. Game in your backyard out of your major city.
I can confirm it roosh and ghostofjefferson can too. Girls in small towns an cities are way better then city girls from non western countries.

I find it incredible that people keep complaining about the supposedly growing antipathy towards the white male in SEA. Granted I only spent a few weeks in Indonesia (although I've gamed plenty of Asian girls studying in my country), but I (as an young white male of average looks) encountered none of this - girls are infinitely easier to bed than in the West, and there was no cockblocking from the men (some guys even invited me and the girl I was with one night to their table and bought us drinks - strangers would never spontaneously do that in my home city).

Maybe if you're particularly old, ugly or fat things have gotten harder, and perhaps you can't get away with cringeworthy anti-game (why would you do this anyway? The great thing about Asian girls is that they don't need Western clown game, you can just act normal and confident). That's just too bad. No one should be complaining that in order to get results you have to avoid dressing like a slob, avoid being obese, and have basic social awareness, discretion and politeness - the fact that this works at all with Asian girls is a blessing, because it will get you nowhere in the West.

On the topic of this thread: Churros hit the nail on the head - discretion is all important. Being indiscrete is anti-game with Asian girls. Broadcasting one's conquests (or attempts) does no good to anyone.