[Holocaust]

Having been reading the forums for almost 2 years not, I would like to try giving back in my own way.
Also to keep a log before I forget all about it.

I'm chinese, about 5"8 and 145LBS.

Special thanks to those who shared and posted on their trips, especially areas in Bangkok/Saigon/Manila/Indonesia.

Starting with Bangkok
Tools used (Tinder, Night Game, Day Game, 7D6N)

AIRBNBs
Both locations i stayed at are girl friendly, with no questions asked when i appeared with another or two others. So no worries on being cockblocked.


Venues
The Club (KhaoSan Road)
Insanity
Insomnia
ScratchDog
Route 66
Levels/Oskar


After breaking up my LTR about a year ago, I took my 1st solo game trip to Bangkok, I tried pipelining about a month before flying, and being new to tinder and reading somewhere about the SWIPE all right method, my matches were filling up quickly, over 100s in an hour after leaving my location in Bangkok for 48hours over the weekend.

Spammed everyone with a generic message and after few days, realized I wasted too much time on the 6s and below when they started being receptive and took up much of my time. I thought to myself, what the purpose of me doing this? I would not be able to get it up with them.
You get all types of girls, from SIFs, to no hook-ups, no partying, I do not drink, and then offering to hang out , bringing you out to party and offering to try drinking with you.

Eventually unmatched all the below 5s (took too damm long to do that) and started working on the rest. Left overs are hi-so girls, café chicks, part time models, students and so on.
More on these later.

Day 1
Touched down at about 4pm and took the train to my AirBNB(US$35/night) in ThongLo where I’ll be staying for 3 nights. Quite decent, you get a security guard in front of the apartment who handed me my key access cards, a nice one bed room with a separate living room, comes with a safe and washing machine and a nice rooftop Jacuzzi.
Unfortunately my tinder game was not up to standard and I met 0 girls from tinder while in Bangkok, a huge waste of time on useless chatting online, there were few 5s who were keen but I couldn’t possible start from a 5 could i?

After settling down in the BNB, immediately hit the streets and chanced upon this shophouse selling local dishes, was staring at the menu for few seconds and a 5 came up and ordered something in thai, thought I would start things off and asked her if she speaks English, got recommendations for food and got her LINE (everyone in Bangkok has line), she offered to show me around the area over the next few days but did not progress further with her as not really my type.

Wow that wasn’t so difficult for my first time.

I had posted in some forums for a meet up earlier and managed to meet another forumer at KhaoSan road. Took an uber there for 150Baht and met him in The Club located at Khaosan Road, I think cost was 200Baht for entry and comes with a drink. After a short introduction he got to work, quality was poor with a big sausage fest, probably 10 to 1 ratio, anyway found my way to the hottest girl in the club, probably a 6 with the poor lighting and touched her waist; she turned her head and gave a look of disgust.
Lesson learnt, should probably pile more drinks to her, also, do not approach from the behind.

We ejected from The Club shortly and roamed the streets, chanced upon 2 pinoy girls, the usual combination of hottie7.5 with fattie3, my pal went for the hottie and I tried to wing the fatty, however HB7.5 showed little or no interest in my white friend. I took the chance and tried reading her palm, she gave me her hand, I held hers, looked in her eyes for abit, and then I forgot what was step 2, big fail.

However being Asian, seemed to provide DHV, she seemed excited when I mentioned my country where they both worked as a nurse, however they were leaving the next day and I did not attempt to exchange contacts, looking back I should have and could have scored her in my home country.
We bounced to insomnia, which just closed, and we chatted up a HB6 who was going to insanity, we got a free taxi with her, in the end we did not enter insanity as we did not want to pay the cover charge of 500baht I think. I did take a glance inside and seemed to be filled with pros.

It was getting late and we soon parted ways, I took an uber to Route 66 but the whole venue seemed closed, fired up WeChat and thought I found a gem, tons of HBs and ladyboys started spamming hellos to me as I was headed back to my BNB.

Got back to my room and started filtering out the ladyboys and I was soon video chatting with a HB7, found out more about her and seemed to clear my checklist,
Student ✓
Horny ✓
Just want drinks ✓
Wants to come over ✓
Not ladyboy ✓
No mention of $ ✓
Within the next 10mins, I picked her up from my lobby and brought her into my room.

This is when shit happened, tried making out and had her boobs on my hands, and then this was when she started asking for cash, I think it was 5000 baht? Can’t remember, immediately wanted to kick her out, asked for reimbursement for transport and wanted me to get her a cab, gave her 100baht as I did feel bad about her time and cab fare and told her to talk to my security guy downstairs.

Went to bed horny and lonely. But learnt a valuable lesson first hand on not being a dumbass, if it’s too good to be true, it is.

Day 2
Wanted to do some normal things so headed over for some shopping at Platinum Mall, bought some cheap tshirts and jeans and was out within 2 hours with some for some food on the top floor. Never bring a female with you to platinum mall cause 8 hours would not be enough.

Decided to meet some couchsurfers in khaosan road again (why the f do I keep going back to khaosan?) , PMed a local chick who was going to the event too and met up with her near BK or was it a KFC, shit, a SIF. Anyway she was chill and nice, met up with another 8 or 10 others and had some beers in a pub, people were soso with no decent quality, girls were a minimum of 60kgs, a good mix of international with peeps from India, Poland, Finland, Australian, Thai and others I don’t remember or care.

A bunch of us bounced to another club and were partying when we realized the indian dude and Poland HB5 missing, soon after the Poland HB5 came back and said the sleazebag indian tried to get her to his hostel on the excuse of getting some shit (wtf dude?).

I think the thai local was interested in me but I cringe when I touch fatties, eventually people started leaving with their newly found partners and I left after awhile. I went to paragon

Day 3
I went to paragon and changed for some baht, SuperRich is one of the well-known ones with better exchange rates, roamed the mall and blahblahblah.
Local chick wanted to meet up more and we met at Oskar, she brought along a tinder date from france I think? Cool dude, placed was packed with lots of potential, mostly 7s and above, we bounced to Levels after 30mins, some quality here but I had some AA and did not speak to any others. There was a smoking area outside so we chilled there, and some chick from Norway asked if I had a cigarette which I said no, and I pointed out some guy she could ask a cigarette from.

She seemed offended and said she’s not a hooker , wtf lady? Crazy bitch.
Should have told her to smoke my cigarette instead for being a bitch.
Music is good at Levels with live performance, dancers and no cover charge, they do practice some discrimination against locals thou, saw a group being denied entry, not too sure why.

After an hour of so I got hungry and wanted to get some thai omelet, local girl followed along and ditched her tinder date, we were eating and she saw a friend so she left and said will be back, I saw a quality HB7 or 8 (I think my numbers increase after couple of drinks?), eating and drinking by herself, wanted to join her but AA kicked in. Ended up leaving in an uber back to my BNB, local girl texted me shortly and ask where was I, think she wanted to come back with me.

Time was about 1am and I was slightly buzzed, fuck it, I headed out to ScratchDog, an afterhours club, paid a cover charge of 350 or 300 baht for 2 drinks. Sat by myself near the bar area overlooking the dance floor, quantity was good, possibly more chicks than dicks, but lacking in quality.
Within 10mins a freelancer approached me, waved her off and said I was gay.

10minutes later, an extremely drunk local chick practically threw her friend onto my lap and proceeds to leave with a Korean dude, a 4 or 5 at best, ended up dancing with her, and then offered to be my wing girl, after saying no to many girls she brought to me, I tried to make out with her which was swiftly avoided by her moving her head away.

Oh well.

Soon I noticed a HB7, nice make up, slim and tall, and of course she had a fatty 4 with her.
Being the only HB8 in the dance floor, I went up to her F4 friend and complimented her on her dance, maybe this sparked interest in the HB7 cause I did not speak to her first? Anyways I ditched my earlier 4/5 and hung out with this 2 till the club closed at about 4am ish, got the LINE ID from HB8 with no plans on what to do next and they suggested supper. Nice girls, brought me water and I paid for their beef noodles without them knowing, not the typical freeloaders.

This was when it got interesting, F4 asked where do I stay and if they can come along, I wasn’t really feeling it after a long day out and after some beef noodles and said probably tomorrow instead. Went back alone and exhausted.

Day 4
Woke up the next morning with texts from HB7, bantered with her for abit throughout the day with plans to meet up later. Moved my ass to my new BNB near RCA.

I headed to MBK to watch a Muay Thai fight, but the fight was cancelled I think, or I saw the wrong dates, attended another couchsurfing event and quality was slightly better this time. Dudes were cool and some guy did some juggling, met this petite HB6 from Indonesia, but no progress as she was leaving the next day.

Friend from Day 1 met up with me and we went to check out Route 66, decent quality there, some chicks were giving me the eye when I walked through the club, drinks were cheap too. Tried talking to 1 or 2 chicks but no progress, most of the others were in groups and I could not bring myself to open, soon my friend left telling me he pulled a babe, good for him.
HB7 was blowing up my phone and I left for scratchdog to meet them.
This time round, F4 was dancing by herself and I escalated with HB7 with some touches and hugs, to cut the story short, bounced both back to my condo. What on earth do I do now? I only wanted 1, not two, especially not a F4, and my apartment is only a studio apartment, with a balcony. Anyways I started making out with HB7 at the balcony ignoring F4, luckily F4 had to go to the toilet for a long time, and I got my first bang, woo hoo~~!!! Eventually she came out of the toilet and I let her out after she suggested leaving.

Could it have been a threesome? Probably, I still wonder till this day. But no regrets not touching a F4.

Day 5
Woke up and sent HB7 off in an uber, and this was the last time I saw her.
HB7 said she wanted to hang out with me but had to work, mentioned something about a bar fine if she skipped work. I thought she could come over after work ends at 2am but never got a reply from her. Oneitis on my part?

Day 6
Went to a mall for some good pasta, rainhill or something like that, I was feeling sick from all the drinks and I had an early rest in my apartment. I did fire up wechat for another try and started speaking to this Korean chick, did not seem to be another pro and even wanted to meet for drinks in RCA, however did not pass my boner test and I decided to go to bed.

Day 7
Chilled and had omelet rice again, and flew back home a changed man.

Back Home
Got a message from HB7 saying her ex boyfriend kidnapped her on day 7, and still showed me a photo of the police report. True? Or not, I’m not really bothered, but I did develop some feelings for her.
We chatted abit more before eventually stopping contact.


will update soon with other countries

[RagnarLothbrok]

Next time you are in Bangkok do this and I guarantee you will have more success:

1. Stay away from Couchsurfing meetups and meet up with someone who knows his way around the city instead. You can use this forum to find suitable people
2. Do proper research about the nightlife. I almost stopped reading after I read the venues you went to.
3. Stay away from hookers and freelancers. Your only bang on this trip most likely was a (semi)-pro as well
4. Approach when out at night

[Holocaust]

Saigon
Tools used (Tinder, SeekingArrangement, 5D4N)

Stays
I stayed in a 5 star hotel which proved to be a huge cock block, security is extremely tight and I think it goes along with the culture there, girls are seemingly more difficult to close and no unregistered guests rule is strictly enforced.


Venues
Apocalypse Now
Chill Skybar

I took pipelining to the next level by paying for a seeking arrangement account where I had decent results, most wanted cash upfront which I was particular to mention no.
Also paid for a vietnamcupid account, had some potentials who were willing to spend the nights with me but most were 5s at best. 6s to 7s were dodgy and I learnt my lesson in Bangkok.
Locals are extremely friendly and you will get a lot of offers for help if you look lost. Many are happy to be able to spend time with a foreigner and would offer you rides on their moped to visit tourist spots.

Day 1
Checked into my hotel, got a $500 a night suite for baller effect , managed to get a local girl who held quite a decent position in a telco company as a director, studied overseas and spoke good English I’d rate her 7, good body and nice face, just lacking in the chest area.. Her social circle seemed big and wanted me to hang with her friends which I rejected.

Met her at my hotel direct for drinks at the lounge, security was crazy anal and only let her come up only when I said we are going to the rooftop lounge. Spent about an hour chatting and free flow drinks, later on she wanted to bounce to another roof top bar, Chill Skybar, which had ladies night going on. I was not too keen on that but thought why not?

She asked to leave her bag in my room and I knew it was on. Took an uber to the skybar, she chatted up 2 white chicks in the elevator and the 4 of us ended up together in a table. Found them slightly fleshly and not my type, so stuck close to my local chick. Spent about an hour there with wine and cocktails with a great view of the city, and then she wanted to go to this nightspot called Apocalypse Now! Saw some good quality there but they all seemed hookerish, but I may be wrong and up to you to find out.
Sealed the deal shortly after, got an uber back, fucking security cocked blocked again and frontdesk said she had to register, I got a whisky dick and had trouble getting it up. Damned! Finished in her anyway.



Day 2
Went for round 2 the next morning after waking up, learnt my lesson in Bangkok that I may never see her again, so why not? Unfortunately she took the day off from work just to accompany me, did not want to disappoint her so I thought, why not? Now I have a local tour guide.

Went for 3rd round and parted ways with her as she had dinner plans.
Met up with a tinder date, she was probably 20 and an accountant and taking her ACCAs, probably 5.5 but would be 7 with decent makeup. Had BBQ with her and brought her back to have drinks in my hotel lounge again, managed to sneak her up using the rooftop bar as an excuse.
Again had some beer and wine and then brought her to my room to continue, saying that the lounge was closing. Had more drinks but I did not escalate, she was a nice girl but I had no attraction for her. I think probably a virgin too.
Eventually just held her to sleep on my bed.

Day 3
She left the next morning but came back few hours later after I offered her the use of my suite for studying, came with a friend who was at best a 3..so no go.
I left my room and left them alone to explore the area and shopping along with more touristy stuff, visited the war memorial museum, walked along the sidewalks and these shady men came up to me in bikes offering happy massages.
Solo-ed vincom mall, it’s a really tiny mall with minimal walking space, so it is tough to speak to 1 without others watching. Did not open anyone here.

Got back few hours later and her friend left, had dinner and movie with this girl but could not bring myself to close her, bid farewell after spending some fun time on this roller wheel thing in the park
Chick from first day wanted to spend the night and I said ok, she came but I was dead tired so no action.

Day 4
Day 1 girl left for work but met up with me after work ended, again brought her to the lounge for drinks.
At this point of time the hotel lounge staff was starting to give me looks for switching girls daily. No biggie as they left me alone.
Went few more rounds with her and she did not stay over this night. She

Day 5
Took my breakfast and left on early flight back home.

Overall i was quite happy with my Day 1 girl, and did not like the unfamiliarity of a new girl everytime. Perhaps that's what making me stick with 1, might want to improve on this in future.





Manila
Used Tinder only

Pipelined few chicks which ended up to be a huge waste of time.

Day 1
Stayed in a AirBNB near Walter Mart, checking in was smooth and unlikely to have any issues bring girls back. Was not able to test this.

Spent the day shopping in the mart, having my meals and basically just chilling and bumming around. Spoke to the 6s+ chicks that matched me on Tinder and they were all, i repeat, ALL , working in a hostess club, basically they want you to go to them and get drinks, and half of the beer goes to them as commission. Each drink costs 300 pesos, not much, but did not like the idea of paying for company.

Deleted tinder.

Day 2

Went to visit Intramuros or something like that, huge regret as the sun was shining down hard. Roamed around and found a local food place, had this roast pork belly thing called liempo, wow

Back to my apartment in few hours before the sun melted me.

Hit up couchsurfing and ended up in this club called Black Market.
Went early and was quite dead at 10pm, met up with 2 dudes from CS who i eventually spent more time with.

Another local chick was joining us but i'd probably rate her a 3 at best, maybe 4 if i got drunk. She seemed to like me alot but not really my type of beef. Soon another group joined us, maybe 6 to 8 of them and we partied, had few eye candies, approached but no results

the CS group eventually went to another club which i ditched and i ended up in macdonalds with local chick and another one of the 2 guys.

Tired at 5am and decided to call it a day and headed home after seeing them off in different cabs, walked back in 5minutes.


Day 3
Local chick asked if i wanted to go to the mall with her, suggested to come over to swim at my apartment. Told her i had things to do and that's the end of that.

There was some food fair just below my apartment, had some pork which was superb for about 300 pesos.

Visited Z Hostel, place got crowded about midnight, quality was decent with a mix of different languages, japanese, indians, europeans etc.

Bounced to another club, Club Royale, with 2 of my homies, immediately got cute local girl 5.5s giving me an eye, gestured for her to come over and immediately got her number. Minimal effort on my part. However did not proceed as wasn't too sure if i was attracted to her.

Had few others giving me looks but did not proceed as they weren't 6s or above.

Roamed the streets afterwards, lots of hookers and massage offerers.


Day 4
Flight back home

[Putin Closes]

Which hotel did you stay at? Sheraton? IC? Park Hyatt I assume has no lounge. I'll definitely make sure to put on blacklist of no go hotel. Although even hotels in BKK who have strict sign in policies never batted an eye when I brought girls in who looked like a non-working girl, maybe Saigon is different.

[Beirut]

Enjoying the detailed report. +1

[soltopia]

Sounds like a disaster of a trip!

Btw 99% of Tinder in Thailand is ladyboys and other freaks.

[lovingseoul]

OP, you said you lurked for a few years, but I am wondering why you chose to go to some of the venues you mentioned.
Apocalypse Now is quite known as a freelancer joint. Same thing with Insanity. You only had a short time in each location, but you could have maximized your time there with some detailed research into nightlife!

I had a lot of fun at The Club in Khao San Road last year, quite a few Korean sets and Hong Kong girls on top of the Euro backpacker and local talent. When I went there, the ratios were 60-40, normal.

Next time you go to RCA, I recommend checking out Onyx with a solid wing. I hope you had more success in Indonesia.

At least you know now that there are very few legit girls on wechat and that you need to state directly that you don't pay if you suspect a girl to be semipro.

[MyFabolousLife]

OP, I was in Saigon back in late July and will be returning in November and yes, as you suspected, all those girls hanging out in Apocalypse Now by themselves that looked so available were in fact Pros.

I'm curious though, what night was 'ladies night' at Chill Skybar? I went on a Saturday and it was pretty dead and most of the girls did not seem receptive to approaches.

(09-24-2017 04:30 AM)Holocaust Wrote:  

Saigon
Tools used (Tinder, SeekingArrangement, 5D4N)

Stays
I stayed in a 5 star hotel which proved to be a huge cock block, security is extremely tight and I think it goes along with the culture there, girls are seemingly more difficult to close and no unregistered guests rule is strictly enforced.


Venues
Apocalypse Now
Chill Skybar

I took pipelining to the next level by paying for a seeking arrangement account where I had decent results, most wanted cash upfront which I was particular to mention no.
Also paid for a vietnamcupid account, had some potentials who were willing to spend the nights with me but most were 5s at best. 6s to 7s were dodgy and I learnt my lesson in Bangkok.
Locals are extremely friendly and you will get a lot of offers for help if you look lost. Many are happy to be able to spend time with a foreigner and would offer you rides on their moped to visit tourist spots.

Day 1
Checked into my hotel, got a $500 a night suite for baller effect , managed to get a local girl who held quite a decent position in a telco company as a director, studied overseas and spoke good English I’d rate her 7, good body and nice face, just lacking in the chest area.. Her social circle seemed big and wanted me to hang with her friends which I rejected.

Met her at my hotel direct for drinks at the lounge, security was crazy anal and only let her come up only when I said we are going to the rooftop lounge. Spent about an hour chatting and free flow drinks, later on she wanted to bounce to another roof top bar, Chill Skybar, which had ladies night going on. I was not too keen on that but thought why not?

She asked to leave her bag in my room and I knew it was on. Took an uber to the skybar, she chatted up 2 white chicks in the elevator and the 4 of us ended up together in a table. Found them slightly fleshly and not my type, so stuck close to my local chick. Spent about an hour there with wine and cocktails with a great view of the city, and then she wanted to go to this nightspot called Apocalypse Now! Saw some good quality there but they all seemed hookerish, but I may be wrong and up to you to find out.
Sealed the deal shortly after, got an uber back, fucking security cocked blocked again and frontdesk said she had to register, I got a whisky dick and had trouble getting it up. Damned! Finished in her anyway.



Day 2
Went for round 2 the next morning after waking up, learnt my lesson in Bangkok that I may never see her again, so why not? Unfortunately she took the day off from work just to accompany me, did not want to disappoint her so I thought, why not? Now I have a local tour guide.

Went for 3rd round and parted ways with her as she had dinner plans.
Met up with a tinder date, she was probably 20 and an accountant and taking her ACCAs, probably 5.5 but would be 7 with decent makeup. Had BBQ with her and brought her back to have drinks in my hotel lounge again, managed to sneak her up using the rooftop bar as an excuse.
Again had some beer and wine and then brought her to my room to continue, saying that the lounge was closing. Had more drinks but I did not escalate, she was a nice girl but I had no attraction for her. I think probably a virgin too.
Eventually just held her to sleep on my bed.

Day 3
She left the next morning but came back few hours later after I offered her the use of my suite for studying, came with a friend who was at best a 3..so no go.
I left my room and left them alone to explore the area and shopping along with more touristy stuff, visited the war memorial museum, walked along the sidewalks and these shady men came up to me in bikes offering happy massages.
Solo-ed vincom mall, it’s a really tiny mall with minimal walking space, so it is tough to speak to 1 without others watching. Did not open anyone here.

Got back few hours later and her friend left, had dinner and movie with this girl but could not bring myself to close her, bid farewell after spending some fun time on this roller wheel thing in the park
Chick from first day wanted to spend the night and I said ok, she came but I was dead tired so no action.

Day 4
Day 1 girl left for work but met up with me after work ended, again brought her to the lounge for drinks.
At this point of time the hotel lounge staff was starting to give me looks for switching girls daily. No biggie as they left me alone.
Went few more rounds with her and she did not stay over this night. She

Day 5
Took my breakfast and left on early flight back home.

Overall i was quite happy with my Day 1 girl, and did not like the unfamiliarity of a new girl everytime. Perhaps that's what making me stick with 1, might want to improve on this in future.





Manila
Used Tinder only

Pipelined few chicks which ended up to be a huge waste of time.

Day 1
Stayed in a AirBNB near Walter Mart, checking in was smooth and unlikely to have any issues bring girls back. Was not able to test this.

Spent the day shopping in the mart, having my meals and basically just chilling and bumming around. Spoke to the 6s+ chicks that matched me on Tinder and they were all, i repeat, ALL , working in a hostess club, basically they want you to go to them and get drinks, and half of the beer goes to them as commission. Each drink costs 300 pesos, not much, but did not like the idea of paying for company.

Deleted tinder.

Day 2

Went to visit Intramuros or something like that, huge regret as the sun was shining down hard. Roamed around and found a local food place, had this roast pork belly thing called liempo, wow

Back to my apartment in few hours before the sun melted me.

Hit up couchsurfing and ended up in this club called Black Market.
Went early and was quite dead at 10pm, met up with 2 dudes from CS who i eventually spent more time with.

Another local chick was joining us but i'd probably rate her a 3 at best, maybe 4 if i got drunk. She seemed to like me alot but not really my type of beef. Soon another group joined us, maybe 6 to 8 of them and we partied, had few eye candies, approached but no results

the CS group eventually went to another club which i ditched and i ended up in macdonalds with local chick and another one of the 2 guys.

Tired at 5am and decided to call it a day and headed home after seeing them off in different cabs, walked back in 5minutes.


Day 3
Local chick asked if i wanted to go to the mall with her, suggested to come over to swim at my apartment. Told her i had things to do and that's the end of that.

There was some food fair just below my apartment, had some pork which was superb for about 300 pesos.

Visited Z Hostel, place got crowded about midnight, quality was decent with a mix of different languages, japanese, indians, europeans etc.

Bounced to another club, Club Royale, with 2 of my homies, immediately got cute local girl 5.5s giving me an eye, gestured for her to come over and immediately got her number. Minimal effort on my part. However did not proceed as wasn't too sure if i was attracted to her.

Had few others giving me looks but did not proceed as they weren't 6s or above.

Roamed the streets afterwards, lots of hookers and massage offerers.


Day 4
Flight back home

[nomadbrah]

Just noticed OPs username.

[Zerdame]

Saigon is definitely a place where you want to invest in your pipelines. Day game is hard because of the language barrier and general conservatism. I found it interesting that you didn't get laid in Manila but yet in Saigon. Manila is by far, alot easier on accounts of many who have been there.

[Holocaust]

(09-24-2017 03:08 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Next time you are in Bangkok do this and I guarantee you will have more success:

1. Stay away from Couchsurfing meetups and meet up with someone who knows his way around the city instead. You can use this forum to find suitable people
2. Do proper research about the nightlife. I almost stopped reading after I read the venues you went to.
3. Stay away from hookers and freelancers. Your only bang on this trip most likely was a (semi)-pro as well
4. Approach when out at night

yes gotta agree couchsurfing is a waste of time

(09-24-2017 09:37 PM)soltopia Wrote:  

Sounds like a disaster of a trip!

Btw 99% of Tinder in Thailand is ladyboys and other freaks.

hahaha, gotta love the freaks sometimes, i feel sick due to high match rates with ladyboys before i did any filtering.

(09-25-2017 07:51 AM)lovingseoul Wrote:  

OP, you said you lurked for a few years, but I am wondering why you chose to go to some of the venues you mentioned.
Apocalypse Now is quite known as a freelancer joint. Same thing with Insanity. You only had a short time in each location, but you could have maximized your time there with some detailed research into nightlife!

I had a lot of fun at The Club in Khao San Road last year, quite a few Korean sets and Hong Kong girls on top of the Euro backpacker and local talent. When I went there, the ratios were 60-40, normal.

Next time you go to RCA, I recommend checking out Onyx with a solid wing. I hope you had more success in Indonesia.

At least you know now that there are very few legit girls on wechat and that you need to state directly that you don't pay if you suspect a girl to be semipro.

i went to apo now with my date, had no intention of hooking up anyone there.

yes i did note the good and "bad" places, but i wanted to explore places and i always liked to verify places for myself. hooking up is not my main priority for travelling.

hope to check onyx out in future.

(09-26-2017 03:14 PM)MyFabolousLife Wrote:  

OP, I was in Saigon back in late July and will be returning in November and yes, as you suspected, all those girls hanging out in Apocalypse Now by themselves that looked so available were in fact Pros.

I'm curious though, what night was 'ladies night' at Chill Skybar? I went on a Saturday and it was pretty dead and most of the girls did not seem receptive to approaches.

most were in groups, so unless you are good with group openers, it'll be tough, i did chat up 2 foreign ladies from the UK, one was visiting and the other was working here, quite possibly looking to hook up.

(09-27-2017 08:28 AM)Zerdame Wrote:  

Saigon is definitely a place where you want to invest in your pipelines. Day game is hard because of the language barrier and general conservatism. I found it interesting that you didn't get laid in Manila but yet in Saigon. Manila is by far, alot easier on accounts of many who have been there.

i do not deny that pipelining served me well in saigon, and i have to agree that i'm surprised at how difficult it is in Saigon compared to Manila.

i did not close in Manila due to me not wanting to settle for 5 or 6s, and i did not see much decent looking chicks on the streets or clubs, but this is very likely due to the fact that i did not visit the clubs in BGC.

and my intention was actually to chill out, and would rather be alone than be with a 6 or less.

[Travel Museums]

I was thinking of trying Manila. My big fear is I’ll find 9/10 women ugly and want to leave ASAP.

[sportbilly]

I'm undecided if i go to SEA manilla or Jakarta. Everywhere says Manilla is easier to get girls but tinder is telling me Jakarta is easier by miles.

[Zerdame]

(10-01-2017 08:05 AM)sportbilly Wrote:  

I'm undecided if i go to SEA manilla or Jakarta. Everywhere says Manilla is easier to get girls but tinder is telling me Jakarta is easier by miles.

How long is your trip? Jakarta is only alittle harder than Manilla. Trick in JKT is getting them out, once you physically see them, its normally down. Problem you will have in JKT is that they flake on you last minute or simply vanish mid conversation lol. Otherwise, I prefer Indonesian girls alot more than Filipinos so I would pick Jakarta any day..

[sportbilly]

If I go will be 2 weeks. I speak Russian and love Slavic girls so.the.temptation is always the FAY but want to try a supposedly easier place at least once whilst I'm still young enough to score young girls

[sportbilly]

Fsu

[Going strong]

(10-01-2017 09:46 AM)sportbilly Wrote:  

If I go will be 2 weeks. I speak Russian and love Slavic girls so the temptation is always the FSU but want to try a supposedly easier place at least once whilst I'm still young enough to score young women

In SEA, you're "still young enough to score young women" well into your fifties (and into your seventies if you're a Chinese businessman).

[Putin Closes]

FYI a lot of the upper tier girls all of them are either studying or working legit jobs so your options during the daytime are quite limited. Not to mention I found my ONS rate plummet (7+) so far, but enjoyable dates... if you're aiming for the 5's/6's im sure close rate quite high, but those don't interest me at all anymore.