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I'm having very poor results on Tinder.
07-02-2017, 09:45 PM
On paper, there is no reason why I should be having this little success. I'm an average, 5 sort of guy with a typical body. 27 year old, black, 5' 9''.
I have plus and swipe in one of the largest cities in the US. I just got very expensive photos done and based on what I see when I look at male profiles, my pictures should be better than the majority of people I'm competing against. I'm well dressed in the photos so that shouldn't be the issue. After using the app for nearly a year, I've gotten less than 10 matches, most of which were accidents or bots (because the women unmatched almost immediately afterwards).
I've tried every sort of profile text under the sun, although this shouldn't matter since I've heard from almost every source that your pictures are 90% of your success online. My preferences in women cannot be the problem as my standards are extremely broad. I often swipe women people on here would consider 3s or lower.
I've even swiped in different countries with the plus feature on Tinder and I've gotten nothing after hundreds of swipes in places that are supposed better for black men than the US, like Norway or Mexico City.
Yes, I'm aware that I should just practice out in the field instead but I want to improve my results online as well.
I would appreciate any advice on the matter.
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07-02-2017, 10:06 PM
Supposedly Tinder is only good for men ABOVE average now. Tall, handsome, ripped and a combination of these factors. Maybe try the same things on a site like POF and see if you get any different results.
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07-02-2017, 10:12 PM
Bro I'm 5'7 , 20 and black.. I get tons of matches but they don't amount till shit... Day game is the best option for us. Don't sweat online Game it's not you
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07-03-2017, 12:03 AM
Online game is starting to work for only the cream of the crop in terms of looks, if you're not in that group (which truth be told you probably aren't, like me and most guys here), you gotta go outside and run day/night game to get anything. Why worry about swipes and shit, you get an unlimited number of swipes when you walk out your door in a fresh suit with a cigar and post up on a busy street.
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07-03-2017, 12:40 AM
A few things to keep in mind while using Tinder OP.
-Do you lift?
-Do you look like you lift?
-Do you look like you can take care of yourself?
-Do you have photos showing off your muscles?
If you answered "No" to any of the above that is a big part of the reason why you aren't seeing the success you want on Tinder.
You say that "got very expensive photos done and based on what I see when I look at male profiles, my pictures should be better than the majority of people I'm competing against"
That's a good start but how do you know those guys you're competing against are seeing better success than you? Serious question. Expensive doesn't always translate into "great photos". If they look too formal or too professional then you run into the chance looking like you're trying too hard.
Black guys have a rough time online dating even when they are already above-average in every way.
I used to work as a model. I'm 6'2, muscular and black and i still struggle to find consistent success on tinder. Why? Because the girls in my area aren't into too black guys. If i want a certain type of girl i HAVE to meet them socially. No exceptions. My physical presence has gotten me laid more than any dating app will ever be able to.
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07-03-2017, 12:53 AM
If you're using the words "on paper" when you're talking about success with chicks or game, that's a problem in and of itself.
"Does PUA say that I just need to get to f-close base first here and some weird chemicals will be released in her brain to make her a better person?"
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07-03-2017, 01:36 AM
I've had solid results from Tinder and I'm basically a newb to online game.
The reason is I hit all of these:
-Do you lift?
-Do you look like you lift?
-Do you look like you can take care of yourself?
-Do you have photos showing off your muscles?
I didn't even follow a paradigm. I just played it 100...if I'm looking for a good time, I'm gonna portray myself as a good time. I could have put up pictures of me as a "gentleman" or a "cultured" guy since I'm actually highly educated, but I threw that out the window and got straight to the point.
It's 50-50. Some girls supposedly hate the "in your face" muscle shots, but I get enough results from those who like it that it doesn't matter.
I used to play these "text games" when I was more amateur in game and time my responses to hers. Now I DGAF and text whatever and whenever I want. I'll go super direct when I feel it or purposely delay cause I have business obligations.
I have more Tinder matches than I can keep up so it works out.
The bottomline is, even as a highly educated guy I STILL went to braindead level on online game and found that more effective. I adapted to the game and got the results.
Surgically precise game is best game.
-Surgeon
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07-03-2017, 04:59 AM
Tinder/Online: A great way for a man to punch well below his weight
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07-03-2017, 05:01 AM
Online 'game' is just a matter of being handsome. Lots of my friends who have the worst game in the world have ridiculously high notch counts as a result of tinder. It's like free prostitutes, but you need to be very good looking.
I personally get about 1 match per month, lol.
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07-03-2017, 06:51 AM
Quote: (07-02-2017 09:45 PM)april6e Wrote:
On paper, there is no reason why I should be having this little success.
OP what is your
Match to Date conversion Rate ?
Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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07-03-2017, 07:08 AM
Ye, I know a lot of people who complain about Tinder, and it does seem to be pretty brutal for a lot of dudes. I'm fortunate to be reasonably good looking - last time I was in London I got 87 matches in just over 3 hours whilst I was there. Out in the countryside where I live though, Tinder is pretty much useless. The only chicks that have their radius set to more than 10 miles are ones who are really struggling to get any male attention at all.
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07-04-2017, 02:30 AM
I'm also a pretty average looking guy and I've noticed a significant change over the past 2 years which is when I first started using Tinder. I've improved all aspects of my profile and my match and date totals have gone way down. So as others have suggested, to hell with Tinder. It's a good way to occupy yourself while you're taking a shit and you have nothing to lose by putting a few minutes into it here and there, but aside from that I think you'd be better off approaching women in real life.