[Beirut]

Perhaps this is an issue of second or third generation vs first generation migrants

[Channer]

What do you think about messaging a lot of girls on couchsurfing before arriving, do the rate reponse interesting?

I have some lebanese friend at Montreal but lot of them seems to not go out a lot cause of work and are not able to present me some girls due to lack of social circles from them

but i know a couple of quebecers very sympathic who live there with a big social circle so i am gonna incrust myself and lets see what will happen! If i dont get laid it is not a problem but at least i hope to make out with girls and dont experiences rejecting that many people talk about. My confidence was at the maximum when i quit poland last year, a few months ago i was in Italy for some work, girls here are terrible!! i will never come back for the purpose to get laid, i hope Montreal will be better!

[BetaNoMore]

I'll be there end of April for a week so I'll find out myself what the vibe is like. Definitely some conflicting opinions here.

[casa-nostra]

(03-29-2017 03:29 PM)Channer Wrote:  

Hello

I want to know if some of you already travel to Montreal for gaming girls!

I mean, i travel a lot in Europe, and the most success i have was in Prague and Poland.

In poland, i have been to Warsaw, and Krakow.

This time, i would like to go to Wroclaw but on the other side, i d liked to go to Montreal, CANADA, a place that i have never been before even in USA, i never traveled there. Actually i dont know if i will have success with french canadian althought i had with a lot of EASTERN european girls.

What do you think? I read that Quebecers girls were very easy to hook up and my friends from Montreal said the same!

I speak a perfect french, it is my mother Tongue!

What do you think ? where i should go?

thanks

When i saw the topic , i said WTF , are you serious ?

If you come to Montreal and looking for girls , you will hate your life.

What you will find in Montreal :

- You will see a lot of beautiful girls in this city , that is a good thing right ? but once you live here, you will see how bitchy those girls are , specially Quebecoises and i will tell you the reasons.
-I personnaly traveled and lived in Europe and North America , and my conclusion is if you are used to get an 8 easily in Poland , dont be surprised that a 5 will rejectyou so badly in Montreal . Why ? Montreal guys approches like animals , and that make sens, girls in Montreal are so spoiled , i saw many times a good looking guys getting rejected by fat girls. So you can guess how bitchy are the beuatiful girls here.
You will also notice that Montreal girls go out only for validation not to have fun.


Poland usually is one of the best spots.Girls are less bitchy , they get way less attention from guys.Many freinds living their got beuatiful girlfreinds , here i Montrel i can't imgine them with even average girls.

But just Poland girls are more conservative and will take a bit more time to bang.

You can try online game , but still if you can get get an 8 in Poland you will date a 4 in Montreal. Give it a try if you want (you can change the city on tinder).

Conclusion : Montreal is a good city for womens
Wroclaw is a good city for mens

the difference is not even close

[casa-nostra]

(03-31-2017 06:21 PM)Channer Wrote:  

What do you think about messaging a lot of girls on couchsurfing before arriving, do the rate reponse interesting?

I have some lebanese friend at Montreal but lot of them seems to not go out a lot cause of work and are not able to present me some girls due to lack of social circles from them

but i know a couple of quebecers very sympathic who live there with a big social circle so i am gonna incrust myself and lets see what will happen! If i dont get laid it is not a problem but at least i hope to make out with girls and dont experiences rejecting that many people talk about. My confidence was at the maximum when i quit poland last year, a few months ago i was in Italy for some work, girls here are terrible!! i will never come back for the purpose to get laid, i hope Montreal will be better!

Well you will miss italy though.

I wish you come , and put your feedback of Montreal here.

[Channer]

Honestly, i dont know what to think after so many contradictory reviews about Montreal.

I still think it is possible to get laid if a good looking guy stay at least 15 days and play strategic game but maybe i am wrong.

It seems that quebecers girls have something for black dudes and i can imagine they are getting laid more than the others

Casa nostra, i already experiment tinder, in 1 days i got 7 matchs on tinder around Montreal and 38 matches around Wroclaw but in poland lot of girls dont respond and they use it for personnal validation

there is a solid 8s i matched on Montreal but she is not quebecoise, she is a latina! but i am wondering if she is not a hooker,

the fews quebecoise (3 or 4) are very average, maximum 6 for one of them and 4/5 for the others.

others are black girls and i am not into black girls at all

[casa-nostra]

(03-31-2017 09:29 PM)Channer Wrote:  

Honestly, i dont know what to think after so many contradictory reviews about Montreal.

I still think it is possible to get laid if a good looking guy stay at least 15 days and play strategic game but maybe i am wrong.

It seems that quebecers girls have something for black dudes and i can imagine they are getting laid more than the others

Casa nostra, i already experiment tinder, in 1 days i got 7 matchs on tinder around Montreal and 38 matches around Wroclaw but in poland lot of girls dont respond and they use it for personnal validation

there is a solid 8s i matched on Montreal but she is not quebecoise, she is a latina! but i am wondering if she is not a hooker,

the fews quebecoise (3 or 4) are very average, maximum 6 for one of them and 4/5 for the others.

others are black girls and i am not into black girls at all

Well Iam telling you that as i know Very well Montreal , and i lived in Europe (France), traveled to many citcies in Europe.when my freinds in Europe comes to visit me , they starts by saying how luckey iam (when he sees girls in the street) but after a week (i feel sorry for you , you live in the hell).Montreal is a tough city , if you didnt like italy , i will be really surprised if you will like MTL.

I am really surprised also to see some people who still like this city in RVF ? because when i go out and i see how dissapointed guys are when they leave clubs , i ask myselef if they really talking of this shit MTL ??

I also just see that you are Leabanese , you will have big competition from brothers. MTL have a big arab population and specially lebanease.

Yes Black guys have more success in clubs than others minorities , but still,in this city it is hard for everyone.

Sociale circle here is more important than any other North American city.

I used tinder , got matches , but beautiful girls are so flaky , they will either cancel , or not reply when you ask for a date. Reason : thats normal when they have so many options. So you need a lots of luck.

By the way, the comptetion you will find in MTL is not the same as in some citcies in the world. Example , i felt handsome and got many eye contacts in NYC , in Montreal invisble.

[Lermontov]

Casanostra, can you make a list of all the bars/clubs/lounges that you've been in Montreal so far? It shouldn't take that long and I think it could be rewarding to discuss them. No need to comment, just list them quickly if you want. I'd understand your perspective better.

[Channer]

(04-01-2017 04:00 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 09:29 PM)Channer Wrote:  

Honestly, i dont know what to think after so many contradictory reviews about Montreal.

I still think it is possible to get laid if a good looking guy stay at least 15 days and play strategic game but maybe i am wrong.

It seems that quebecers girls have something for black dudes and i can imagine they are getting laid more than the others

Casa nostra, i already experiment tinder, in 1 days i got 7 matchs on tinder around Montreal and 38 matches around Wroclaw but in poland lot of girls dont respond and they use it for personnal validation

there is a solid 8s i matched on Montreal but she is not quebecoise, she is a latina! but i am wondering if she is not a hooker,

the fews quebecoise (3 or 4) are very average, maximum 6 for one of them and 4/5 for the others.

others are black girls and i am not into black girls at all

Well Iam telling you that as i know Very well Montreal , and i lived in Europe (France), traveled to many citcies in Europe.when my freinds in Europe comes to visit me , they starts by saying how luckey iam (when he sees girls in the street) but after a week (i feel sorry for you , you live in the hell).Montreal is a tough city , if you didnt like italy , i will be really surprised if you will like MTL.

I am really surprised also to see some people who still like this city in RVF ? because when i go out and i see how dissapointed guys are when they leave clubs , i ask myselef if they really talking of this shit MTL ??

I also just see that you are Leabanese , you will have big competition from brothers. MTL have a big arab population and specially lebanease.

Yes Black guys have more success in clubs than others minorities , but still,in this city it is hard for everyone.

Sociale circle here is more important than any other North American city.

I used tinder , got matches , but beautiful girls are so flaky , they will either cancel , or not reply when you ask for a date. Reason : thats normal when they have so many options. So you need a lots of luck.

By the way, the comptetion you will find in MTL is not the same as in some citcies in the world. Example , i felt handsome and got many eye contacts in NYC , in Montreal invisble.

Where are you from? are you confronting difficulties to get laid in Canada? so what i am learning, online dating seems to suck in Montreal

[MrRoundtree]

I think these guys went pretty much to the shitty places you can go in Montreal. For exemple, yesterday I don't think I would have any diffuculty getting laid in my go-to bar if my ex wasn't there.

2 really good spots (bars de quartiers) for pulling

-St-Edouard
-Miss Villeray

[Nater]

Channer here is some info that could help you, my wing back in Montreal was just like you half Lebanese half French and he had no problem getting laid there. My statement is not to be generalized to the whole Lebanese male population since my buddy is good looking, tall and does not really look Middle Eastern. He's an outlier, he maybe looks like you?

Beyond looks, my buddy had great logistics, he lived Downtown near the pubs St Denis area. Plus, he had a good social circle... Some of his lays came from there but the big majority came from night game and online. In terms of game, he would only approach if the girl showed interest. Naturally, this led him to bang below his value...

I have a few questions; How would you rate yourself in terms of looks? Are you tall? In shape? Where will you stay in Montreal (logistics) ? What is your experience in game so far? What's your niche? You talked about online but not about day or night game.

[Channer]

(04-01-2017 02:02 PM)Nater Wrote:  

Channer here is some info that could help you, my wing back in Montreal was just like you half Lebanese half French and he had no problem getting laid there. My statement is not to be generalized to the whole Lebanese male population since my buddy is good looking, tall and does not really look Middle Eastern. He's an outlier, he maybe looks like you?

Beyond looks, my buddy had great logistics, he lived Downtown near the pubs St Denis area. Plus, he had a good social circle... Some of his lays came from there but the big majority came from night game and online. In terms of game, he would only approach if the girl showed interest. Naturally, this led him to bang below his value...

I have a few questions; How would you rate yourself in terms of looks? Are you tall? In shape? Where will you stay in Montreal (logistics) ? What is your experience in game so far? What's your niche? You talked about online but not about day or night game.

Hey

I think i am a good looking guy, tall, blue eyes, athletic body, dark hair, when i travel in general i dont have a lot of problem for getting laid but i have to admit that Night game and Nightclub is not really for me!

All my lays came from Online and daygames but mainly online, actually i hate to lose my energy gaming in the street when i can have girls without moving my ass on the internet of course some time i do daygame because i am looking for better qualities

I am not very efficient at nightgame, i dont dance a lot and i have some ears problem that not permit me to stay a long time inside a nightclub, maybe 2 ou 3 hours max after i sature.


I think i can pass for a grec or maybe a spanish but you can detect that i have some oriental genetic too

For online, what is the place on Montreal? Tinder? Badoo?..

[Rekk'd]

In Montreal most girls use tinder, but on Badoo you will find alot of girls from outside Montreal. If you are as good looking as you say you are then from online you should get some lays.

[RBerkley]

Aye! The usual Montreal vs. (Insert City here, other than Toronto) thread.

MTL was perfect for me in 2015 and 2016, not sure about now.

It appears that Toronto feminazis are invading the Ville of Montreal in droves more than ever...Fucking cockroaches infesting the place.

At least if you wanna fuck a very lefty-hippie French Canadian chick who isn't gonna cover up her exposed titties to you thinking you're gonna rape her on the street in front of the SVPM headquarters during Rush Hour, there is the St. Henri area which is literally fighting back against the Anglo-elitist hipster fucks from Toronto.

Remember that Montreal is still in Canada, so there remains the Anglo-elitist snobbery which is more snob than Nicholas Sarkozy's Mistress looking at a Hobo on the street while she wears a 15,000 Euro designer dress & Hermes Birkin Limited Edition Handbag customized from crafty Artisians who design clothing for Billionaires and millionaire celebrities from Hollywood, that type of thing you know.

[RBerkley]

(03-30-2017 07:14 PM)Rekkd Wrote:  

What I'm going to share is 100% truth and no bullshit like what you will find in the datasheets here.

The only other city I've been to is Toronto, and compared to Montreal, it's alot better. I will explain why:

Now Montreal girls in general are way hotter and sexier than Toronto girls, I believe thats why most RVF members are crazy about them. However, feminism is very dominant here just like in Toronto, so when you're told Quebecoise are feminine please understand that it's a lie.

Montreal nightlife is full of Arab and Black men, this makes approaching and gaming girls at night very difficult. The reason for that is both these ethnicities are very aggressive when it comes to approaching, they approach girls like there's no tomorrow. I know I'm generalizing but its true and both these ethnicities even go for low quality girls making a 3 feel like a 10. Now I'm an Arab myself, so it's not racism or anything but nightgame is tough here. In Toronto I found men shy, not as well dressed as the guys here in Montreal, Gym culture is huge here and Quebecer men are good looking and got real good game. I remember in toronto I approached a korean girl and two idian guys were watching me and smiling/laughing and staring, so I stopped and asked them "is this girl with you??" they said "no, we don't know her", it just showed how surprised they were and how they were admiring my courage to approach, this doesn't happen here!

Back to the girls, in Toronto girls are nicer and if you get rejected its usually smoother. Here, last weekend I approached a quebecoise girl and all I said was "hey" she turned and said "what do you want?" lol the bitch attitude here gets to me sometimes. In Toronto The girls were eyeing me more, I even approached a gorgeous girl there that was staring and smiling at me, turns out she's originally a quebecoise but born and raised in Toronto.. In Mtl that girl would treat me like dirt.

Alot of french girls here too, and you most probably know how terrible they are when treating people outside their social circles. Just avoid this trap!

Now I'm not saying Toronto is heaven, just better. I wouldn't recommend any place in Canada for women if that's what you want.

Toronto is not in Poland though. This is a Wroclaw, Poland vs. Montreal, Quebec, Canada thread.

OP should definitely visit Poland rather than Montreal though. Montreal is infested with Anglo-elitist crap from Ontario.

And what's with this subtle hate on this forum about Black Men in clubs? Why they hated on in a subtle way? It's not their fault they are Black skin. Seriously that anti-Black racist shit is an Anglo-Canada thing though.

[Channer]

(04-01-2017 08:14 PM)Channer Wrote:  

(04-01-2017 02:02 PM)Nater Wrote:  

Channer here is some info that could help you, my wing back in Montreal was just like you half Lebanese half French and he had no problem getting laid there. My statement is not to be generalized to the whole Lebanese male population since my buddy is good looking, tall and does not really look Middle Eastern. He's an outlier, he maybe looks like you?

Beyond looks, my buddy had great logistics, he lived Downtown near the pubs St Denis area. Plus, he had a good social circle... Some of his lays came from there but the big majority came from night game and online. In terms of game, he would only approach if the girl showed interest. Naturally, this led him to bang below his value...

I have a few questions; How would you rate yourself in terms of looks? Are you tall? In shape? Where will you stay in Montreal (logistics) ? What is your experience in game so far? What's your niche? You talked about online but not about day or night game.

Hey

I think i am a good looking guy, tall, blue eyes, athletic body, dark hair, when i travel in general i dont have a lot of problem for getting laid but i have to admit that Night game and Nightclub is not really for me!

All my lays came from Online and daygames but mainly online, actually i hate to lose my energy gaming in the street when i can have girls without moving my ass on the internet of course some time i do daygame because i am looking for better qualities

I am not very efficient at nightgame, i dont dance a lot and i have some ears problem that not permit me to stay a long time inside a nightclub, maybe 2 ou 3 hours max after i sature.


I think i can pass for a grec or maybe a spanish but you can detect that i have some oriental genetic too

For online, what is the place on Montreal? Tinder? Badoo?..

(04-01-2017 10:41 PM)RBerkley Wrote:  

(03-30-2017 07:14 PM)Rekkd Wrote:  

What I'm going to share is 100% truth and no bullshit like what you will find in the datasheets here.

The only other city I've been to is Toronto, and compared to Montreal, it's alot better. I will explain why:

Now Montreal girls in general are way hotter and sexier than Toronto girls, I believe thats why most RVF members are crazy about them. However, feminism is very dominant here just like in Toronto, so when you're told Quebecoise are feminine please understand that it's a lie.

Montreal nightlife is full of Arab and Black men, this makes approaching and gaming girls at night very difficult. The reason for that is both these ethnicities are very aggressive when it comes to approaching, they approach girls like there's no tomorrow. I know I'm generalizing but its true and both these ethnicities even go for low quality girls making a 3 feel like a 10. Now I'm an Arab myself, so it's not racism or anything but nightgame is tough here. In Toronto I found men shy, not as well dressed as the guys here in Montreal, Gym culture is huge here and Quebecer men are good looking and got real good game. I remember in toronto I approached a korean girl and two idian guys were watching me and smiling/laughing and staring, so I stopped and asked them "is this girl with you??" they said "no, we don't know her", it just showed how surprised they were and how they were admiring my courage to approach, this doesn't happen here!

Back to the girls, in Toronto girls are nicer and if you get rejected its usually smoother. Here, last weekend I approached a quebecoise girl and all I said was "hey" she turned and said "what do you want?" lol the bitch attitude here gets to me sometimes. In Toronto The girls were eyeing me more, I even approached a gorgeous girl there that was staring and smiling at me, turns out she's originally a quebecoise but born and raised in Toronto.. In Mtl that girl would treat me like dirt.

Alot of french girls here too, and you most probably know how terrible they are when treating people outside their social circles. Just avoid this trap!

Now I'm not saying Toronto is heaven, just better. I wouldn't recommend any place in Canada for women if that's what you want.

Toronto is not in Poland though. This is a Wroclaw, Poland vs. Montreal, Quebec, Canada thread.

OP should definitely visit Poland rather than Montreal though. Montreal is infested with Anglo-elitist crap from Ontario.

And what's with this subtle hate on this forum about Black Men in clubs? Why they hated on in a subtle way? It's not their fault they are Black skin. Seriously that anti-Black racist shit is an Anglo-Canada thing though.

I note something in Poland, usually it is very easy to make out with girl but sometimes it took some time to bang her, like 2 or 3 days! i wonder if in Montreal it is more fast, i met a quebecer girl outside Canada, she was not very pretty but she litteraly show me that she want to fuck whereas i knew her just about 1 hour

[Rekk'd]

There is no hate towards Black men here. I just said Arab and Black men are making approaching hard, and I'm an Arab myself.

Just because I'm saying Quebecers have a preference for a certain race makes me a racist?

There is no anti black racism in Canada, I actually feel like Canada is one of the least racist in the world except Quebec. If you want to mention anti black racism, think of China, Gulf countries, US, Eastern Europe, FSU countries, some parts of South America. So I don't understand why you're saying Anglo Canadians are racist, because from personal experience they treated me way better than how Quebecers treat me.

[Curunír]

Rekk'd:

Not only do you insult Montreal , which is objectively a game Mecca of the world and has been since before game was even written about , but you promote in the same breath one of the dumpiest game cities in the world ; Toronto.

Congratulations on attaining the pinnacle of irrelevance in such a short amount of time .

[Rekk'd]

Montreal is no longer game Mecca or pussy paradise, it might have been but I also don't believe that. You're living in the past and you need to get updated on the current situation.

Toronto is better because Anglo Canadians are better/easier/more open/friendlier than Quebecers, and not because Toronto is special in any way.

[Curunír]

Newsflash: nightlife and cold approach in general is in major decline everywhere in the world.

This affects the best cities and also the worst.

The general consensus is that Toronto is one of the worst city to game in the world.

The general consensus is that Montreal is in the top tier if not the top 5.

So to flip the script based on your apparent limited and poor world experience on game and international comparisons seems to tell me you should use way more moderation in your comments.

[Rekk'd]

I laughed at Montreal being top tier or even top 5. Seriously dude you're questioning my experience and knowledge of game and international comparisons, when you just put a Canadian city in the top 5 list.. Wtf is wrong with you!!

I'm guessing you're a proud Quebecer..

[Cambodian Creamsicle]

Montreal top 5 game destination in the world? LOL

[Curunír]

Based in the criterias of beauty of women, logistics , cost of life , easiness to bang , which are the most
important criterias , surely, I would place Montreal in the top 5 in the world .

My point is not that I think this , but that the general PUA community , if such a still subculture still exists , would say the same.

But you guys continue bashing the city and promoting Toronto all you want , I just think it's absurd.

[Rekk'd]

I'm speechless to be honest..

This is an excellent example of how forum members lie about Montreal. It's like a dogma, a belief that won't change even if the facts say otherwise.

You have cities in Eastern Europe, FSU countries and South America... And you left all these out to put this dump as one of the top.

The PUA community is not immune to wrong beliefs or misconceptions. Humans by nature are like sheep they follow the herd, and this is what's happening here.

[casa-nostra]

No of course it is not imopssibl to get girls here.

what i want to say , is if you are used to get 8/10 in poland expect to get a 4/10.

You will notice how bitchy girls here in your 10d days byyourself. you will notice that guys here approches like animals.

Personnaly i got many make out here (very few ONS ) but yesteray i went to burlington for example i got easily some make out with way less efforts. the same girl(sane quality) i made out with will for sure reject me in MTL.

that being said if you are very good looking you can get laid very easily everywhere in the world. you just have to present yourself in the club.

And you if you are average , you can try to get good pictures, with some luck a picture will be good and allow to get dates.

I personnally do better clubbing than online game and find it way more funny.