[spokepoker]

(01-31-2017 08:07 PM)Curunír Wrote:  

Latest information:

AK-47 jammed when shooter entered the mosquee. (video and witnesses)

He used his pistols.

Suspect was also intoxicated with alcohol.

Police say death count could of been very much higher if AK-47 not jammed.

I agree with Samseau that this guy really was stupid thinking this could help an anti islam cause.

How the fuck do you jam an AK-47?
Did he have pics of himself with guns on any of his social media?

[Jura]

About the whole AK-47 thing, according to the press:

Quote:

Charges brought on the suspect only mention murder and attempted murder with restricted weapon. No charges were laid regarding the possession or use of a prohibited weapon. In all likelihood, his weapons were duly registered.

Link (French)

That would make the use of a AK-47 pretty unlikely (despite what some witnesses saw. But then again, people see/hear things all the time in these situations.)

As for the guy himself; I didn't mention this the other night but I've seen a lot of his facebook posts over the past year. (He was a friend of a friend). The guy would have fit right on the forum. Made fun all the time of liberals and butt-hurt SJWs but also could hold a serious discussion on politics. I don't think insanity defense will have a chance to hold in court.

As for me, the only question that remains is What made him snap? As others have pointed out already, he looked fine in the days before and the timing of his act couldn't have been worse for us. Same for the victims he chose...This isn't Sweden where we have ghettos. People here in Quebec City more or less integrate. Sure they stick to themselves and open their halal shops but overall, they don't cause any trouble.

[younggun]

Just to give precedent for non-Canadians, the Ecole Polytechnique Massacre happened 27 years ago and the anniversary is part of the news cycle every year. One incident (albeit a fucked up one) that goes with the narrative that anti-feminists are evil and it's commemorated as a National Day of Remembrance.

We'll be hearing about this massacre for YEARS.

[Leonard D Neubache]

As someone who also lives in a cucked gun control country, I'm doubling down when I say welcome to the main event.

America got it's Trump and frankly our nations could never have produced one and would never have elected one. And if nut bars want to go shooting up mosques then IDGAF because ever since Trump was inaugurated it was game-on for Western civilisation.

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Stop giving a shit about polls. Stop shedding crocodile tears. Stop wringing your hands when shit like this happens. It's pointless. We in the cucked nations are at a point where the politicians no longer fear the ballot box, but they still fear hard men with guns who are in all cases the lowest common denominator for charting the direction of a nation. We are never going to get clear of this shit with good optics and clever political platforms. The only thing left to us is to be that figure that keeps the globalists awake at night, knowing that eventually they will cross a line and catch a bullet in a public place. For fucks sake. The lunatics on the left wouldn't even allow the public meeting of a few PUAs to go unmolested. Precisely what hope do you have that all this madness is going to end peacefully?

Accept in your heart that violence is inevitable and you see that you have two choices. Leave or harden up.

If all it takes to put the Right into full retreat is to shoot up a mosque and pin it on some pasty white boy then the time to put your faith in politics is over.

[kaotic]

(01-31-2017 10:13 PM)Jura Wrote:  

About the whole AK-47 thing, according to the press:

Quote:

Charges brought on the suspect only mention murder and attempted murder with restricted weapon. No charges were laid regarding the possession or use of a prohibited weapon. In all likelihood, his weapons were duly registered.

Link (French)

That would make the use of a AK-47 pretty unlikely (despite what some witnesses saw. But then again, people see/hear things all the time in these situations.)

They can jam, could be a stove pipe jam.

Remember the Paris train shooting ? It could've been alot worse if his AKM hadn't jammed.

Dude had 200+ rounds of ammo.

The victims were lucky his rifle jammed and he switched to pistols, becomes a less target rich environment.

He was drinking, his nerves were probably all over the place, shitty scenario to be in when using a pistol and trying to aim at people running away.

What this fucker did was outright reprehensible, like many have said, it doesn't further your cause in the mainstream

[C-Note]

Is the media in Canada using this incident to go after popular, politically incorrect "shock jocks" on Canadian morning radio shows? Wouldn't surprise me if they do.

[Samseau]

The fact this happened in gun-controlled Canada doesn't hurt conservatism in America, however. Trump can just say, "If they had guns on the other side, bullets would be going in the other direction!" Trump can actually use this incident to promote his agenda and look like a defender of all, even Muslims.

[Foolsgo1d]

(01-31-2017 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Well if you go back to pre WWII the US was just a country over the Atlantic/Pacific and doing its thing, pretty much a protectionist nation and had only stepped into the quagmire of WWI.

The world went crazy without America influencing it prior to WWII and I wonder if we're heading for yet another case of the US being outside of the world order and the world steering itself into a big fight across multiple regions.

Something has to give.

[911]

(02-01-2017 10:46 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Well if you go back to pre WWII the US was just a country over the Atlantic/Pacific and doing its thing, pretty much a protectionist nation and had only stepped into the quagmire of WWI.

The world went crazy without America influencing it prior to WWII and I wonder if we're heading for yet another case of the US being outside of the world order and the world steering itself into a big fight across multiple regions.

Something has to give.

US globalists financed the Russian revolution, supported the Nazis and conspired with their UK partners to push for WW2, just as they did with WW1, by also funding Wilson and sidelining Taft. You have to dig deeper to find historical truths.

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...tion-5.pdf

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...Hitler.pdf

[nomadbrah]

(02-01-2017 11:58 AM)911 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 10:46 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Well if you go back to pre WWII the US was just a country over the Atlantic/Pacific and doing its thing, pretty much a protectionist nation and had only stepped into the quagmire of WWI.

The world went crazy without America influencing it prior to WWII and I wonder if we're heading for yet another case of the US being outside of the world order and the world steering itself into a big fight across multiple regions.

Something has to give.

US globalists financed the Russian revolution, supported the Nazis and conspired with their UK partners to push for WW2, just as they did with WW1, by also funding Wilson and sidelining Taft. You have to dig deeper to find historical truths.

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...tion-5.pdf

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...Hitler.pdf

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

[polar]

[polar]

(02-01-2017 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

Quotes or link you're referring to?

[nomadbrah]

(02-01-2017 01:12 PM)polar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

Quotes or link you're referring to?

Quote:

The noise against me is only the means by which the Jews and Communists are attempting and with good success to implement a further dismemberment of Germany. I think that if I resigned as I threatened to do yesterday, it would simply discredit me to no purpose. . .

Quote:

All military governments are going to be targets from now on for every sort of Jewish and Communistic attack from the press.

Quote:

I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe.

Quote:

What if the Arabs had been Christians? To me it seems certain that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of women is the outstanding cause for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have kept on developing.

Quote:

We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it?

Quote:

The more I see of Arabs the less I think of them. By having studied them a good deal I have found out the trouble. They are the mixture of all the bad races on earth, and they get worse from west to east, because the eastern ones have had more crosses.

https://books.google.com/books?id=XGP_Ag...&q&f=false

Naturally a man speaking such truths must be Clinton'ed.

[Foolsgo1d]

(02-01-2017 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:58 AM)911 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 10:46 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Well if you go back to pre WWII the US was just a country over the Atlantic/Pacific and doing its thing, pretty much a protectionist nation and had only stepped into the quagmire of WWI.

The world went crazy without America influencing it prior to WWII and I wonder if we're heading for yet another case of the US being outside of the world order and the world steering itself into a big fight across multiple regions.

Something has to give.

US globalists financed the Russian revolution, supported the Nazis and conspired with their UK partners to push for WW2, just as they did with WW1, by also funding Wilson and sidelining Taft. You have to dig deeper to find historical truths.

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...tion-5.pdf

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...Hitler.pdf

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

I'm well aware of the Patton car crash death he suffered and US undercover influence.

I was going along the lines of no US military invovlement causiing mass instability in regions and fights against political movements like Korea and Vietnam.

US interests back then were undercover and the average American, even informed Americans didn't see themselves getting involved but they were dragged into it on the back of revenge and patriotism.

Sounds familiar?

The US was described as a sleeping giant and I believe this is the protectionism Trump wants. hence my post.

We still have these special interests working away like never before but the only thing which has changed is the speed they can inflict damage.

- Iraq, Libya, Syria (almost WW3), Ukraine, Crimea, Arab Spring, invasion of the EU by migrants from Muslim dominant areas.

Their plans do not rely on a President being nominated who looks after the US and to a lesser extent, its NATO allies. NATO needs the US and the US needs NATO. I truly believe if the US steps off the world stage and allows these shadowy figures to push chess pieces around then there will come a day when US military involvement is an almost certainty and it will have horrific outcomes.

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

It's already begun.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3219000/kirkla...ial-media/

Quote:

Antonio Padula, a 45-year-old Kirkland man, has been charged with uttering threats and public incitement of hatred after allegedly posting hate speech on social media.

The prosecution objected to Padula’s released and he is being held in jail until his bail hearing on Thursday.

He appeared in court via video conference.

“I don’t know if I could take another night in there,” said Padula after being told he would not be released until his bail hearing.

Montreal police went to a home on Shediac Street, near de Berne Street in Kirkland, after getting a tip from the Sûreté du Québec’s (SQ) hate crime unit.

Police would not comment on which social media platform the comments were made nor what the message specifically said.

The arrest comes on the heels of the massacre at a Quebec City mosque, where six people were killed and 19 people were injured by a lone gunman.

The alleged gunman in Sunday’s attack, 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonnette, had been known for his far-right and nationalist social media posts.

In the wake of the attacks, the SQ have warned Quebecers to be vigilant about what they post on social media.

On Tuesday, Montreal police chief Philippe Pichet said there have been 14 reports of hate crimes in the city since the Quebec City mosque shooting.

There’s been a steady rise of hate crimes across the city since 2013.

Will appear at Montreal courthouse by video this afternoon. No charges as of yet. Not determined yet. Objection to his release during court appearance.

[John Michael Kane]

Tensions will only continue to simmer until they reach a boiling point, unless Western nations become uncucked and face the problem head on. Every day that goes by with failure to acknowledge the simple truth only makes the inevitable that much more distasteful AND LIKELY TO HAPPEN. Cucks that cuck mean that eventual violence will be the only outcome that we'll see. They are literally going to cause the loss of life due to their cognitive dissonance.

[911]

(02-01-2017 03:07 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 01:12 PM)polar Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

Quotes or link you're referring to?

Quote:

The noise against me is only the means by which the Jews and Communists are attempting and with good success to implement a further dismemberment of Germany. I think that if I resigned as I threatened to do yesterday, it would simply discredit me to no purpose. . .

Quote:

I would like it much better than being a sort of executioner to the best race in Europe.

Quote:

We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it?

https://books.google.com/books?id=XGP_Ag...&q&f=false

It's important to give some context here to nomad's quotes: Secretary of Treasury Morgenthau, the second most powerful figure in US government behind FDR (and its leading globalist), was pushing for a German post-war genocide, he wanted to completely deindustrialize Germany, round up men in labor camps and impose a postwar trade embargo that would have starved off 10 to 20 million Germans after the war.

Patton was very strongly opposed to this Morgenthau Plan. as reflected by the above quotes. He was also very eager to drive through Eastern Europe to liberate it, pushing back the Soviets, who were in no position to oppose the Allies. He could have conceivably also liberated Russia, there would have been a lot of support for this. The globalists blocked him.

In the end, there was a lot of opposition to the Morgenthau Plan, especially from Canadian premier Mackenzie King, so a somewhat less genocidal version of that plan ended up being implemented, with millions of German civilians killed in concentratio camps run by the Allies between 1945 and 1949. Here is the rundown, revealed by Canadian author James Bacque:

thread-55460...pid1290157

[nomadbrah]

Trump makes frequent mentions of Patton, apparantly he is a big fan of him.

Trump in a lot of ways acts as a student of history, as if he has this deep encyclopedial knowledge, but I don't think that is the case, the man just has exceptional instincts learned "on the streets" coupled with high IQ. I'd like to have seen Jung analyze him, he is an avatar of the American spirit, a vessel as much as a captain.

[nomadbrah]

(02-01-2017 06:33 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 12:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 11:58 AM)911 Wrote:  

(02-01-2017 10:46 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(01-31-2017 11:08 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

We in the cucked nations don't get to just sit idly by while Trump does all the heavy lifting and fixes not only America but the whole world. The irony is that America is actually the one tracking the neatest path to a bloodless restoration while the rest of the cucked nations of the West are plunging headlong into full spectrum street to street jihad while at the same time having the disgusting gall to condemn America as being the cruel tyrant.

Well if you go back to pre WWII the US was just a country over the Atlantic/Pacific and doing its thing, pretty much a protectionist nation and had only stepped into the quagmire of WWI.

The world went crazy without America influencing it prior to WWII and I wonder if we're heading for yet another case of the US being outside of the world order and the world steering itself into a big fight across multiple regions.

Something has to give.

US globalists financed the Russian revolution, supported the Nazis and conspired with their UK partners to push for WW2, just as they did with WW1, by also funding Wilson and sidelining Taft. You have to dig deeper to find historical truths.

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...tion-5.pdf

https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutt...Hitler.pdf

People really ought to read what the great General Patton had to say after he 'liberated' Europe and before he had an "accident".

I'm well aware of the Patton car crash death he suffered and US undercover influence.

I was going along the lines of no US military invovlement causiing mass instability in regions and fights against political movements like Korea and Vietnam.

US interests back then were undercover and the average American, even informed Americans didn't see themselves getting involved but they were dragged into it on the back of revenge and patriotism.

Sounds familiar?

The US was described as a sleeping giant and I believe this is the protectionism Trump wants. hence my post.

We still have these special interests working away like never before but the only thing which has changed is the speed they can inflict damage.

- Iraq, Libya, Syria (almost WW3), Ukraine, Crimea, Arab Spring, invasion of the EU by migrants from Muslim dominant areas.

Their plans do not rely on a President being nominated who looks after the US and to a lesser extent, its NATO allies. NATO needs the US and the US needs NATO. I truly believe if the US steps off the world stage and allows these shadowy figures to push chess pieces around then there will come a day when US military involvement is an almost certainty and it will have horrific outcomes.

It's hard to argue against Americans defeating the Nazis, the best imo would have been if Operation Valkyrie had succeeded in killing Hitler and a peace could have been made before the atrocities during the later part of the war. Hitler in the beginning attempted peace with the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...sians.html

Rudolph Hess was sent to broker an agreement in where Germany was allowed to invade Russia, but Churchill turned it down because he wanted the Americans in the war.

That was 1941, well before any kind of Auschwitz whatever you think that was.

Quote:

Pintsch notes that Hess’s task – five weeks before Germany launched its invasion of Russia – was to ‘bring about, if not a military alliance of Germany with England against Russia, then to bring about a neutralisation of England’.

Of course the prospect of a literal Thousand Year Reich encompassing Germany, Poland, Russia and most of France would seem threathening.What would it have looked like, we don't know, we would have been spared Stalin and the reds, but have had to deal with a Nazi Europe and fascist Italy and Spain. Interesting to contemplate.

In any case, WW1 was where America lost its innocence in foreign affairs. Americans did not want to be involved in the war and had a historical good relationship with the Germans. In addition, the war was clearly a result inter-european power struggles, France, Russia and the Brits not wanting to deal with the mighty industrialized Germany. America had no reason at all to be in that war. That was the beginning of Kissinger esque secret agendas in American wars.

[Tytalus]

I read earlier today in another article that he used a CZ-858. Specific enough for me to believe it possible.

[CaptainChardonnay]

^Makes sense

[mikado]

Well it's surprising that this thread isn't more active, since many of you always have some good input on terrorist attacks.

[Wreckingball]

[mikado]

(02-02-2017 05:48 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

Not really, it's just that it's unusual. I always log on RVF to read about your political opinions (even during work) and outside of the Trump thread the political section is not as active as it was. It feels odd.

[Wreckingball]

The Trump thread is the biggest thread on the forum and it grows like 10 pages a day.
The HRC thread had some traction during the elections but, just like her, it died down.

All the other threads are and always were quite meager in comparison. Even the ones regarding terrorist attacks.