[mostlykelp]

Hey there, I just finished reading through Day Game by Roosh and am looking to conduct my first field test this Saturday.

Aside from the book, are there any tips you guys can give me? Specifically looking for advice from fellow Black members, light or dark, as they would have first-hand accounts. Second-hand accounts are welcomed as well, especially from seasoned veterans.

Just a few details about me, I'm 30 now, have a solid career where I can basically work from anywhere. I'm a little late into the dating game (was/am an extreme introvert), but for the last three years I've been beefing up my sexual experience through mostly online dating, tinder and okc specifically. Now that I know I can kill it in the bedroom, I'm looking to start doing cold approaches as there are a lot more quality women out there and I want to take advantage.

So any tips you guys can give me would be great. Thanks in advance!

[Comte De St. Germain]

1. Read the stickied threads
2. Lift everyday
3. Look at the various style threads
4 Approach and report back here or in the player's lounge
5. See step 4
6. See step 4
7. See step 4
and lastly
8. See step 4

[ginatingles]

Look good, walk with swag and fish for IOIs. Where are you gaming? For example Here in Poland we don't have many black dudes and most of the girls don't like them.

But there are some bitches that have wet dreams about black dongs so it's only screening process.

[azulsombra]

1st post is a race thread..............hmmm.

[mostlykelp]

Not race-baiting, just looking for any other info or advice that could be given. Thanks for the replies so far!

[Il Bersagliere]

(07-29-2016 07:39 AM)mostlykelp Wrote:  

Not race-baiting, just looking for any other info or advice that could be given. Thanks for the replies so far!

There's a plethora of information for black men as well as a strong black contingent on the forum. I would start with here, which discuses black man game options with lots of commentary/podcasts by 2 senior members. I would also recommend you take a look at this thread, which is more travel-focused for black guys. I would urge you to absorb all the information and also share your own experiences.

Lastly, this thread has a specific focus on black men who want to game white women. I hope these help you

[WestIndianArchie]

This post is not a good look homie. But there's a huge black man's options post on the main game board. And it's open to everyone.

That being said, interracial approaches take more than a few different flavors, a lot of which depends on you, on her, and the local culture. And in terms of straight up technique, it's maybe thirty seconds of difference between inter-racial and intra-racial game. At the front end.

In a long term, race shows up in unexpected ways.

WIA

[kirdiesel]

I didn't see that black dudes into white girls thread...

Mostly jump into one of the black guy threads and alot of us will be happy to help you out.

[WestIndianArchie]

I'd avoid that thread. I was sorry I surveyed it.

WIA

[mostlykelp]

WestIndianArchie and kirdiesel, THanks guys!

[Captain Gh]

As a newbie, don't worry about the Race angle too much... yet! Just focus on having fun during your Daygame approach. Your # 1 concern... will be to deal with your approach anxiety... cause it will pop up... it always does! Eventually, when you find your groove, then you'll be able to focus on what to do to maximize your results. Most importantly, make Daygame as fun as possible, because it ain't easy my friend!

[Irenicus]

I will expand a little bit of Comte's post


1. Start working out if you have not already. We have plenty of resources on RoK and this forum, which can help you. If you need help, ask away. Girls of all races looove good looking men, regardless of race, and by God, age.


2. Become an interesting person. It can be achieved in so many ways - travel cross country by bike or to some exotic locale, for example. In short, you will have a lot of cool stories. And chicks of all races love them, daygame included.


3. Work on your style. Again, we have plenty of resources.


4. Be proud of what you are (don't think that you are some sub human under any circumstances!). For example, many Indian guys are ashamed of their race, and that hurts their Game. Don't have that mentality!


5. Don't listen to what the hood/MSM/feminists say. Fuck them. Do what you want to do - date a girl of any race, of any age. If someone complains, show them the middle finger. Read Gorilla Mindset by Mike Cernovich (he used to post here). Very good book.


Good luck!

[XPQ22]

For what it's worth, I see black (and asian!) guys out on the town with white 7s and above in Boston on the regular. It might be a consequence of the fact that New England is a more liberal, multicultural area.

That's sometimes considered an aspersion around here, but could be a silver lining for you.

[therealpoder]

I think you need to work on doing solid approaches and worry less about your race. It matter much, much less than you think.

There are a few white women out here that won't date you because you are black but they will never tell you that. And there are plenty of attractive white women that will date you so there's no reason to be worried about it.

To the extent that you do worry about your race, you need to avoid negative stereotypes. Many white women have never been approached by a black guy and a lot of black guys are dressed poorly, overly crass, tons of tattoo, act ghetto, speak bad English, etc.

Emphasize the stereotypes of black guys that women tend to like, eg athleticism, charisma, confidence, etc.

I also tend to have a conservative appearance. I dress business casual or in a suit to distinguish myself from black guys with bad game that approached them in the past and to appeal to higher class women.

Avoid the negative stereotypes and you should be fine.

[WestIndianArchie]

(07-30-2016 11:51 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

For what it's worth, I see black (and asian!) guys out on the town with white 7s and above in Boston on the regular. It might be a consequence of the fact that New England is a more liberal, multicultural area.

That's sometimes considered an aspersion around here, but could be a silver lining for you.

Whoa. That's the first positive report I've ever seen about Boston.

Places like Boston, SF, T-Dot, DC, Miami - to some extent, and Australia as an idea, a country and a continent - will turn you into a real player. Argentina and some parts of the UK could probably get on that list as well.

But guys just starting out, living in those places, get so discouraged.
- With the exception of Miami - the chicks aren't hot enough to merit all the "work"

- The market is so skewed towards chicks who are deep into the social programming. And there are super-thick defenses that you need to penetrate to get her to realize that "She's a woman and you're a man and all this surface shit doesn't matter"

WIA

[Joga Bonito]

(07-31-2016 07:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(07-30-2016 11:51 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

For what it's worth, I see black (and asian!) guys out on the town with white 7s and above in Boston on the regular. It might be a consequence of the fact that New England is a more liberal, multicultural area.

That's sometimes considered an aspersion around here, but could be a silver lining for you.

Whoa. That's the first positive report I've ever seen about Boston.

Places like Boston, SF, T-Dot, DC, Miami - to some extent, and Australia as an idea, a country and a continent - will turn you into a real player. Argentina and some parts of the UK could probably get on that list as well.

But guys just starting out, living in those places, get so discouraged.
- With the exception of Miami - the chicks aren't hot enough to merit all the "work"

- The market is so skewed towards chicks who are deep into the social programming. And there are super-thick defenses that you need to penetrate to get her to realize that "She's a woman and you're a man and all this surface shit doesn't matter"

WIA

Agreed about the bad rap Boston gets. After living there for awhile, the culture there is very direct and aggressive, so for a player trying to find his feet, it can be tough to navigate since that culture definitely rubs off on the chicks. I received my worst blow outs here, with chicks outright ignoring my approaches which hasn't happened anywhere else. I've compared notes with other brothers that lived here too, and the consensus is that Boston is probably one of the most challenging metro areas for a brother. Wouldn't recommend going there for a inexperienced player if you don't have to be. The only upside may be the amount of universities, but Providence, RI has the same type of dynamic of setup with a more laid back vibe IMO and isn't too far away.

[XPQ22]

(07-31-2016 07:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Whoa. That's the first positive report I've ever seen about Boston.

The weird thing about Boston is that for all its liberal fronting, in a lot of ways it's still pretty segregated and racist, even more so than say Atlanta struck me. Basically the old joke is that in the North whites and blacks will go to work together but they don't want to live together or socialize together, and in the South it's vice-versa.

You see this play out if you go out for night game - there are the "black" dance clubs that cater to that demographic, and the "SWPL" clubs, and there's not a lot of cross-pollination.

I think "ethnic" guys with game could do well here, since the black and asian communities are pretty insular and nobody seems to step outside of their comfort zone much, and nobody is going to complain publicly about a black guy dating a white girl, as that's precisely what their liberal education has informed them NOT to do.

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Places like Boston, SF, T-Dot, DC, Miami - to some extent, and Australia as an idea, a country and a continent - will turn you into a real player. Argentina and some parts of the UK could probably get on that list as well.

But guys just starting out, living in those places, get so discouraged.
- With the exception of Miami - the chicks aren't hot enough to merit all the "work"

I'm sometimes surprised I get as laid as much as I do given my poor logistics (I live in the suburbs.) But the truth about Boston is - there are a ton of freaks in this town looking to get fucked - education and intelligence is correlated with kink-friendliness as another poster mentioned. They might not be as attractive as Miami, but...

My impression is that Tinder and OKC are so big here not just because women are more social media addicted in general, but because Boston is so social circle and image based, these girls have reputations to keep up...many of them work in education/healthcare/corporate and legitimately fear for their jobs. I think the reason nightlife is fairly slow, but online is a veritable pussy paradise could definitely be a remnant of this area's Puritan heritage; there's a focus on "plausible deniability" much more than other places.

It feels like if you're getting laid by multiple women here regularly you're pretty much running "secret society" game by default. It's definitely what trekking 30 miles to eat ice cream on a park bench one-on-one with some professional SWPL girl and then driving her back to her place feels like to me...in fact I feel if you're meeting online chicks, bar dates where you're seen by other people are where you'd take them if you DON'T want to get laid.

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- The market is so skewed towards chicks who are deep into the social programming. And there are super-thick defenses that you need to penetrate to get her to realize that "She's a woman and you're a man and all this surface shit doesn't matter"

Once you get 'em alone, it all crumbles. The difficulty with traditional "night game" here is that the staff, the bartenders, her male orbiters, random guys and the girls themselves all working overtime to ensure you don't get the opportunity.

[WestIndianArchie]

(07-31-2016 10:01 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

I'm sometimes surprised I get as laid as much as I do given my poor logistics (I live in the suburbs.) But the truth about Boston is - there are a ton of freaks in this town looking to get fucked - education and intelligence is correlated with kink-friendliness as another poster mentioned. They might not be as attractive as Miami, but...

My impression is that Tinder and OKC are so big here not just because women are more social media addicted in general, but because Boston is so social circle and image based, these girls have reputations to keep up...many of them work in education/healthcare/corporate and legitimately fear for their jobs. I think the reason nightlife is fairly slow, but online is a veritable pussy paradise could definitely be a remnant of this area's Puritan heritage; there's a focus on "plausible deniability" much more than other places.

It feels like if you're getting laid by multiple women here regularly you're pretty much running "secret society" game by default. It's definitely what trekking 30 miles to eat ice cream on a park bench one-on-one with some professional SWPL girl and then driving her back to her place feels like to me...in fact I feel if you're meeting online chicks, bar dates where you're seen by other people are where you'd take them if you DON'T want to get laid.

Once you get 'em alone, it all crumbles. The difficulty with traditional "night game" here is that the staff, the bartenders, her male orbiters, random guys and the girls themselves all working overtime to ensure you don't get the opportunity.

This is my overall impression of internet game.

Some chicks you can come straight at em. Other chicks don't care one way or another. But a lot of chicks like DISCRETION.

And if you can provide some behind closed doors fun...

I'm wondering if you could tweak your profile to send subtle hints

"I don't know how I ended up here, but I'm not a big city person..I like to go to more OUT OF THE WAY SPOTS"

"I love my friends and family, but sometimes it's nice to take a vacation, even a staycation..."

Good stuff XP

WIA

[Lindsey Graham]

Race-baiting?

If race doesn't matter at all, why are there black guys even asking questions like this?

[XPQ22]

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ome chicks you can come straight at em. Other chicks don't care one way or another. But a lot of chicks like DISCRETION.

It's a small enough city that lots of people know each other, you'll often run into groups of people you recognize, girls you recognize at various nightlife areas week in and week out. They might slip you their # on the down low but I think you really have to be sensitive and set things up just right to pull straight from the club: they can't be seen just bouncing out with some random guy by everyone. The girls who were the most aggressively physical with me at night were almost to a one girls from out-of-town on vacation, or recent transplants who probably didn't yet have a well-developed social circle.

Going out solo is definitely the way to fly. My friends? I dunno, I don't have any friends here. But then the perennial problem is isolating.

(07-31-2016 01:25 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

"I don't know how I ended up here, but I'm not a big city person..I like to go to more OUT OF THE WAY SPOTS"

"I love my friends and family, but sometimes it's nice to take a vacation, even a staycation..."

Good stuff XP

WIA

The girls themselves often put hints in their own profiles, which it's possible to pick up on if one's attuned to such things.

What I'm good at: "following instructions"

A typical Friday night for me: "I'm often pretty happy staying in"

If you write your profile with an emphasis on typical "DHV" type stuff (bragging about your job, or your cool hobbies, or how much you love the gym) you'll get hit up by the unicorn hunters.

If you don't focus on that stuff and mainly come off as a "kooky player", you'll get hit up by more "chill girls." The number of responses I get compared to the number of girls who "visit" my profile after I send a message is pretty skewed - if I send out 10 messages maybe 7 will "visit" me, but I might only get one or two messages back.

I don't think it's because they're not liking my pictures or think we have a bad "match" percentage, it's because they're reading the text and thinking "Ah. He's one of those", and in my estimation that's OK, because you're ejecting them early and not wasting time.

At this point I've been on enough online dates that I can recognize a pattern in the type of girl that I've hit it off with, and I have a bit of a sixth sense about which dates are going to go good and which aren't...you can usually sniff out the serial daters a mile away if you pay attention.

[kirdiesel]

Bumped wrong thread by accident