[AneroidOcean]

(04-27-2016 09:51 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

If we want to get serious about money and boosting savings, and not discussing things we have no control over, then I think
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Real talk. Emotional control can be difficult, but it is key to game, social skills, financial success, etc...

When you control yourself, the possibilities are quite endless.

[samsamsam]

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[Veloce]

Shaming language? Hahahaha.

I seem to remember Roosh once saying:

"If you see a beautiful girl you're attracted to, and you don't immediately start moving toward her, there's something wrong with you."

If you call that shaming language then you're right, and if you're too thin-skinned for that then maybe this isn't the right place for you.

Because all of us fuck up all the time, every day. We fuck up approaches, we fuck up on missing gym sessions, we fuck up on missed opportunities. And we're here to give each other advice and guidance to minimize those fuckups.

As I said before, if you can't put together $400 for an emergency, then there's something wrong with you. Now get over it and start telling us why, and maybe, just maybe, someone can help.

Do you need someone to hold your hand?

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I personally can not get $400 together because I foolishly paid for my out-of-state tuition before my grant was approved. Kept having problems with it and could not fix it before the next school year.

I have been doing some online side jobs (for a few dollars every so often, though some people who are good at it can make a lot more in an hour), until I get another steady place.

If anyone works in a job where they do nothing and don't know what to do with the time, and they are ok with making some chump change, you can pm me for the details. I can't talk about it, making money there is based on the saturation of people online at prime time.

(Again if you are okay with making few bucks at most when starting out. this probably NOT for the more wealthy. Would be a waste of time.)

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Delete. Quoted myself for some reason.

[Veloce]

If anyone ever really wanted to pull themselves up they could do a lot worse than restaurant work. I don't mean working in the kitchen, I mean being a server.

The servers where I work now make around $60k per year. The busboys make 35-40k. Given the low cost of living here you can do pretty damn well for yourself given that neither of these jobs require a degree or any formal education. Just show up, pass a drug test, and don't have a criminal background.

We have employees in their 20s that own their own houses here, with no formal education. I mean some real dipshits that aren't even that good at their job, living a very comfortable life.

Also you can get a union job at the hotels working in a casino for $60-80k. It can be tough to break into because a lot of these jobs are so cushy that people never leave. It really helps to know someone, but the jobs are there. I overheard a card dealer the other day saying she made $500 the day before. If you're in a high limit room the tips can be crazy. Most of these dealers are dipshit immigrants with barely half a brain in their skull, the lamest gaggle of automatons you can imagine, and they're pulling some very decent cash.

It's not glorified work. You're dealing cards and dealing with some serious scum of the Earth. Vegas casinos can be some of the most soul-sucking places when you have to deal with it on a daily basis. But just saying, for those looking to make some cash and without any degree or barely any training (or getting paid for on-the-job training) it's not a bad option. I've got a salad cook making $13/hr that just got pre-approved for a mortgage.

[samsamsam]

(04-28-2016 12:20 AM)Veloce Wrote:  

If you call that shaming language then you're right, and if you're too thin-skinned for that then maybe this isn't the right place for you.

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Do you need someone to hold your hand?

I think more and more mainstream guys are finding the forum.

First, let me say that is a good thing. The more guys that handle themselves better helps society. Without this forum, I would not have been exposed to certain topics that helped me. Some may say it is too late, but every guy who knows better slows down the nonsense just a little bit more.

But, with mainstream comes mainstream behavior. I won't go into that, it is pretty obvious to most of us.

With Roosh's success and the contributions of the men I admire, there will just be more mainstream energy flowing into this forum. Just part of the deal.

Think of it like immigration. Unlike the countries of Europe who let their immigrants abuse them and take advantage. Here the forum seems to be the you will integrate into this brotherhood or you can exist peacefully and not integrate (lurkers etc) but you will not try to weaken core beliefs.

[Apollo21]

Working as a salaried employee means that you must save as much as you can
and invest that into wealth producing income. Otherwise you will always at the mercy
of your health or your employer if something goes wrong like getting sick, getting laid off
or losing your job.

I see having a job as a temporary solution. Sure poor money management and
choosing the wrong position that does not pay enough can easily cause
you to struggle...especially when you are taking care of a family.

However in today's economy, just because you work 40 hours a week
is no guarantee that you'll get ahead. That's because the whole purpose
of a company is to make money...not provide a livelihood for their employees.

The company is not interested in giving you enough money to pay your bills,
deal with cash emergencies and save for retirement. It's not a priority for them.
They also don't care about the cost of living...it's a non issue.

You have to be willing to change jobs, network, change industries and
work to the point where you can create an income for yourself that is
not dependent on you trading your time for money or some company
deciding your financial future.

Because that is a losing game.