[Suits]

Party host game is very different from last man standing game.

Last man standing consists of waiting around until some slut who was planning to get laid that night realizes that a more preferable option is not going to come along and settles for whoever happens to be most convenient since she's drunk anyway.

Party host is legit game, because while you may fuck a girl that you didn't even pay much attention to throughout the night, you were gaming her the entire time by being the clear top dog in a fun social setting.

Girls rarely sleep with guys because they have an uncontainable sexual appetite. They do it because they are in a situation where sex can happen and they can't think of a good reason not to.

A lot of your female party guests didn't show up with the intention of getting fucked, but given the enormous status that your position as host gives you, when the party ends and no one else is around, she can't think of a good reason not to take dick from you because you have enough value that sex with you will be validating for her.

[DonnyGately]

(11-15-2016 09:15 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

Last Man Standing is usually someone with negative attributes (didn't find something better to leave for, didn't get a girl already, didn't have anything better to do. The only thing that you have positive is perseverance for getting laid, but too much focus on that will dry things up quick.

What am I missing?

You assumed negative attributes. I was thinking of you're talking to a beautiful girl at the bar, and eventually the other guys leave because you've got her locked in, and her friends drift off after she says she's staying for one more drink. You're staying because you're gaming her. That's why I said it was a cousin of party host game, not the exact same thing. You don't always meet the girl you want at 9-10pm, sometimes it's 1-2am or later, especially in NYC [or Vegas].

Social proof is always better as discussed in the thread by me and others.

Probably it was a poor metaphor choice by me.

edit: I see most people have different definitions, I was not advocating 'waiting for a fattie.' I thought that went without saying on this board and esp this thread.

[DonnyGately]

(11-15-2016 09:31 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(11-15-2016 07:34 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Any guy that doesn't have more women than men at his party is doing it wrong. When it's guys night out don't invite them, otherwise it should be a minimum of 60% girls.

I'm a firm believer in getting more chicks to come out than dudes, but 60%(maybe give 5%) is generally the most you can get reasonably and, honestly, for practical reasons. Unless you're filthy rich of course.

If chicks come to a party and see a lot more chicks than dudes then all they'll do is start yapping with each other about how they know the host or know you the guy who brought them. Then having them essentially lez out over each other but do anything but fuck. Doesn't create a conducive environment. ...This scenario being for American chicks not sure how it would play out abroad.

My experience hosting parties in the city has been quite different. First, most people here have some money, and I fully stock the party with food and drinks anyway.
People wouldn't dream of showing up without at least a decent bottle of wine. Agree that a 2-1 ratio is the max you need.

Maybe that makes me well-off, I dunno. Manhattan is an expensive place.

Most parties I've hosted and been to the 'who/how do you know' game takes 10-15 minutes not 2-4 hours. Just my experience.

One of the easiest ways to have a threesome is to invite a girl as the host, and then if one of the other girls likes you/her she's much more liable to stay and 'help clean up. ' Plausible deniability achieved.
Now it's the 3 of you alone after a few hours of drinking. Needless to say, you can achieve this with 2 girls you didn't invite also.

If girls friendzone the host that's on him. The concept of 'too many' pretty girls at a party is beyond me.

[JoeSea]

One thing to add to this topic is: it's best to let these things die a natural death rather than attempt to keep going back to the well. Meaning that "secret society" chicks are expecting you to behave like a secret society man, which means when it's time to part ways you do so like the the last scene in Oceans 11 and don't look back.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-16-2016 06:35 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

You assumed negative attributes. I was thinking of you're talking to a beautiful girl at the bar, and eventually the other guys leave because you've got her locked in, and her friends drift off after she says she's staying for one more drink. You're staying because you're gaming her. That's why I said it was a cousin of party host game, not the exact same thing. You don't always meet the girl you want at 9-10pm, sometimes it's 1-2am or later, especially in NYC [or Vegas].

Social proof is always better as discussed in the thread by me and others.

Probably it was a poor metaphor choice by me.

edit: I see most people have different definitions, I was not advocating 'waiting for a fattie.' I thought that went without saying on this board and esp this thread.

Thanks for the breakdown. I agree that it was a poor choice of naming as it's not any particular style of game. It is if anything just a stressing of perseverance getting you the girl in a high energy environment. I think it has almost nothing to do with party host game. Maybe it has more to do with party attendance game as clubs/nightlife environments do have many similarities to high energy or college frat-type parties.

Team no fatties.

[Comte De St. Germain]

(11-16-2016 06:35 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

edit: I see most people have different definitions, I was not advocating 'waiting for a fattie.' I thought that went without saying on this board and esp this thread.

Yeah it's just I see the definition me and Aneroid were thinking of enough where it's sad to watch.

(11-16-2016 06:51 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

My experience hosting parties in the city has been quite different. First, most people here have some money, and I fully stock the party with food and drinks anyway.

Too many people down South are leeches if you're trying to max out quantity with a good looking crowd. If it's a small event max 20 people then you're generally better off.

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People wouldn't dream of showing up without at least a decent bottle of wine. Agree that a 2-1 ratio is the max you need.

Aye!

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Maybe that makes me well-off, I dunno. Manhattan is an expensive place.

Manhattan is a different animal. What you say makes sense since you're living in the best city to live in the states. If you're not well off in Manhattan you're doing it wrong. Most other big cities have their own little quirks in terms of personality but generally the stuff I said is up to par as far as I know everywhere else.

Granted I can't speak for everyone in every place.

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Most parties I've hosted and been to the 'who/how do you know' game takes 10-15 minutes not 2-4 hours. Just my experience.

Well I'm more specifically talking when there's an obvious amount of too many chicks. If the chicks feel like they're the majority they yap like they always do unless they're trying to impress Mr. Big Bucks and use him as a sugar daddy. See the yapping phenomena a lot on industry nights where the club is stock full of people that work nightlife and that's it, or at a college party where the entire sorority shows up and there's not enough dudes, at that moment as more will obviously show up in a bit, to deal with their short attention spans.

All the promoter chicks do then is just yap like that and lez out. And it's an absolute bitch being involved in their little games. It's almost as if they're in high school again. They'll tap on your shoulder then run off and giggle or if the guy's a real sap of a newbie just hug him and stand there looking him in the eyes while he nervously sweats and the other girls laugh. I could rant about this stuff for hours because I've been in that situation where I'm just there and to network then have to deal with it.

The too many sorority girls situation should be self explanatory(selfies, posing for the beta bitch boyfriend of the fattie can snap a picture for instagram, complaining about how drunk they are to each other, etc.).

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One of the easiest ways to have a threesome is to invite a girl as the host, and then if one of the other girls likes you/her she's much more liable to stay and 'help clean up. ' Plausible deniability achieved.
Now it's the 3 of you alone after a few hours of drinking. Needless to say, you can achieve this with 2 girls you didn't invite also.

If girls friendzone the host that's on him. The concept of 'too many' pretty girls at a party is beyond me.

I've seen dudes do this and it works though it's just usually two or three chicks then two or three guys stay behind to match and each one takes a girl.

And the little bit I said earlier should add some context. It's not so much that there are too many pretty girls, but that they start hanging out in their little cliques and just be general nuisances when the ratios are too skewed in the guy's favor unless you're on the up and up.

[Mufasa]

This thread deserves a bump with the new year upon us.

(02-02-2016 04:08 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I recently became a "member".

....

I didn't understand it.. I didn't get it.. I didn't know what it meant..

Now, I understand..

Girls are looking at me different now -- They don't look at me like I'm a threat -- They greet meet with a coy smile, smirk, or flirtatious grin. They don't see me as a predator -- They see me as a friend.

It's all communicated non verbally.

They can tell that I fuck girls.

The way I present myself, the way I carry myself -- It's all rooted in sexuality.

Recently I've been noticing that some girls are making it almost too easy. Like WIA said its literally feels like a glitch in the matrix where reality kinda fucks up and then continues--like those old subliminal stimuli maketing ploys they used in movies to boost sales



And like Gio said girls give you a different look. I personally wouldn't describe it as going from "threat" to "friend" but like in their eyes I've gone from "attractive guy that dresses well" to "Mufasa king of the Pridelands ." its like they can sense my sexuality and dominance/awesomeness.

One of the current girls I'm fucking it was all eye contact and my body language--we just locked eyes and it was like it was over before it even started. There was even a point where I left her with her friend and she came and found me outside.

A cute red headed girl from this last weekend was a similar occurrence. we just locked eyes and she was throwin that ass back at me. At one point I unzipped her winter coat went inside of it wrapped my arm around her back side into the back of her jeans and started finger popping her on the main stair case to access the bar. When we got to her place she went ice cold and I see that I violated a major rule..

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They get off on illicit and socially unacceptable sex, provided that no one knows.

The moment we got into her place one of her roommates walked out of her room; I could almost feel the air get let out of the balloon...

Everytime it occurs I think "wow this secret society stuff is actually real."
When it happens you'll know it. Its like the girls are now trying to run game on you.

edit: Reread the rules and I'm breaking a bunch of them after the interaction begins. Going to have to tighten that shit up

[Giovonny]

I am now INVITING GIRLS INTO THE SECRET SOCIETY!

5 years ago, I didn't even know what the "secret society" was! I struggled to even wrap my mind around the concept.

Now, I am the one offering the invitations to them!

--

It evolved from the language I use during my conversations with girls..

I don't want a girlfriend, I don't want to go out on dates, I don't want a time consuming relationship..

I just want a "fuck buddy" or a casual sex partner... This is reflected in my word choice... I learned to sexualize my language and tone, BUT, KEEP IT ALL VERY SUBTLE, CODED, AND WITH PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY INTACT!

I used to say, "wanna hang out sometime?"... Now, I say, "what's your Saturday wine drinking situation looking like?"

They know exactly what I'm talking about.. I'm asking them if they want to fuck.

I used to say, "can I call you sometime?".. Now, I say, "lets go day drinking"..

That means "lets fuck"... They know that.

--

My tone and vibe is different.. No longer am I smiling, laughing, and making jokes all the time with girls... Now, my tone is more serious but more sexual.. I calmly look them right in their eyes as I make the offer... The seriousness is actually quite sexy.

--

It all started last month when I approached a pretty, young girl on the street..

She was waiting in front of a building as I passed by, 10 minutes later on my return, she was still there.. I opened her:

me: you're still out here waiting
her: haha yes
me: who are you waiting for?
her: just a friend
me: is it a man?
her: lol no
me: do u have a boyfriend?
her: um well no not right now
me: don't be embarrassed to be single, relationships are hard and time consuming, I'm happily single
her: lol

We chatted for a few minutes.

me: lets talk again
her: I don't have a lot of time to date
me: I didn't say "date". I don't have time to date..

She looked at me curiously.. She knew what I was talking about... She could feel that thru my language, tone, and eye contact that I was just looking for a casual sex partner.

Her face got red, she really thought about it, I think it was one of the first times that an older man propositioned her like that.

--

She was 24, I am 41.

Age is a factor because I have more dating experience than these younger girls, they haven't been exposed to all this stuff yet.

I have learned that instead of trying to "date" them, its better if I just invite them into the "secret society". That is a sexier approach for them and me.

--

I'm going out today to work on my "invitations".

[Conquerer7]

(04-23-2017 01:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I am now INVITING GIRLS INTO THE SECRET SOCIETY!

5 years ago, I didn't even know what the "secret society" was! I struggled to even wrap my mind around the concept.

Now, I am the one offering the invitations to them!

--

It evolved from the language I use during my conversations with girls..

I don't want a girlfriend, I don't want to go out on dates, I don't want a time consuming relationship..

I just want a "fuck buddy" or a casual sex partner... This is reflected in my word choice... I learned to sexualize my language and tone, BUT, KEEP IT ALL VERY SUBTLE, CODED, AND WITH PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY INTACT!

I used to say, "wanna hang out sometime?"... Now, I say, "what's your Saturday wine drinking situation looking like?"

They know exactly what I'm talking about.. I'm asking them if they want to fuck.

I used to say, "can I call you sometime?".. Now, I say, "lets go day drinking"..

That means "lets fuck"... They know that.

--

My tone and vibe is different.. No longer am I smiling, laughing, and making jokes all the time with girls... Now, my tone is more serious but more sexual.. I calmly look them right in their eyes as I make the offer... The seriousness is actually quite sexy.

--

It all started last month when I approached a pretty, young girl on the street..

She was waiting in front of a building as I passed by, 10 minutes later on my return, she was still there.. I opened her:

me: you're still out here waiting
her: haha yes
me: who are you waiting for?
her: just a friend
me: is it a man?
her: lol no
me: do u have a boyfriend?
her: um well no not right now
me: don't be embarrassed to be single, relationships are hard and time consuming, I'm happily single
her: lol

We chatted for a few minutes.

me: lets talk again
her: I don't have a lot of time to date
me: I didn't say "date". I don't have time to date..

She looked at me curiously.. She knew what I was talking about... She could feel that thru my language, tone, and eye contact that I was just looking for a casual sex partner.

Her face got red, she really thought about it, I think it was one of the first times that an older man propositioned her like that.

--

She was 24, I am 41.

Age is a factor because I have more dating experience than these younger girls, they haven't been exposed to all this stuff yet.

I have learned that instead of trying to "date" them, its better if I just invite them into the "secret society". That is a sexier approach for them and me.

--

I'm going out today to work on my "invitations".

[Mufasa]

(04-23-2017 01:01 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

I am now INVITING GIRLS INTO THE SECRET SOCIETY!

5 years ago, I didn't even know what the "secret society" was! I struggled to even wrap my mind around the concept.

Now, I am the one offering the invitations to them!

--

It evolved from the language I use during my conversations with girls..

I don't want a girlfriend, I don't want to go out on dates, I don't want a time consuming relationship..

I just want a "fuck buddy" or a casual sex partner... This is reflected in my word choice... I learned to sexualize my language and tone, BUT, KEEP IT ALL VERY SUBTLE, CODED, AND WITH PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY INTACT!

I used to say, "wanna hang out sometime?"... Now, I say, "what's your Saturday wine drinking situation looking like?"

They know exactly what I'm talking about.. I'm asking them if they want to fuck.

I used to say, "can I call you sometime?".. Now, I say, "lets go day drinking"..

That means "lets fuck"... They know that.

--

My tone and vibe is different.. No longer am I smiling, laughing, and making jokes all the time with girls... Now, my tone is more serious but more sexual.. I calmly look them right in their eyes as I make the offer... The seriousness is actually quite sexy.

--

It all started last month when I approached a pretty, young girl on the street..

She was waiting in front of a building as I passed by, 10 minutes later on my return, she was still there.. I opened her:

me: you're still out here waiting
her: haha yes
me: who are you waiting for?
her: just a friend
me: is it a man?
her: lol no
me: do u have a boyfriend?
her: um well no not right now
me: don't be embarrassed to be single, relationships are hard and time consuming, I'm happily single
her: lol

We chatted for a few minutes.

me: lets talk again
her: I don't have a lot of time to date
me: I didn't say "date". I don't have time to date..

She looked at me curiously.. She knew what I was talking about... She could feel that thru my language, tone, and eye contact that I was just looking for a casual sex partner.

Her face got red, she really thought about it, I think it was one of the first times that an older man propositioned her like that.

--

She was 24, I am 41.

Age is a factor because I have more dating experience than these younger girls, they haven't been exposed to all this stuff yet.

I have learned that instead of trying to "date" them, its better if I just invite them into the "secret society". That is a sexier approach for them and me.

--

I'm going out today to work on my "invitations".

Shit Gio i got a lil wet.

Defintiely gunna have to add this to the game

[Barrington Levy]

Maybe I'm diving in too deep here but it seems like lil wayne is talking about this secret society in this verse from his new song.

"Woo, all of your bitches, they poo
All of my bitches, they're new
They got more bitches than you
All of these hoes in cahoots
But my bitches keep me in the loop
She blow me like hot Campbell's soup
My woadies come out like a troop
Innocent bystander, oops"

When you put the bold lines together it seems to make sense.


Woo, all of your bitches, they poo
All of my bitches, they're new
All of these hoes in cahoots
But my bitches keep me in the loop
Innocent bystander, oops