[Geomann180]

(11-11-2015 01:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I guess Ryan BB just confirmed it's NOT his wife.

So I guess he did dodge a bullet but his explanation just sounds so....weak.

https://instagram.com/p/98zpu1OYJV/?take...ndeluca123

Damn. He's got diarrhea of the mouth.

Would have sufficed to say:

Quote:

"She's not my wife. Just some whore.

Like all the other ones Dan paid for."

G

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 01:12 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:02 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion.

How do you calculate the S&P 500 returns? If you use: http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/ you get a 20x return from January 1974 until October of this year. That would be 800M not adjusted for inflation.

Well using January with dividends reinvestment and that calculator actually gives you a 72x return. In October it's 97x so the market probably moved quite a bit that year.

Regardless; with your claim to have the same wealth as Bilzerian and being self-made; that would make you far more successful than Trump in terms of individual wealth creation.

[eradicator]

That is just cringeworthy. Ryan BB needs to fix his own life, and stop trying to fix instagram and what people like. A lot of his problems would be lessened if he just read some of his own forums, like the last 10 pages of the misc and if a fraction of that would rub off on him, he'd quit simpin'.

[Anabasis to Desta]

(11-11-2015 01:26 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

That is just cringeworthy. Ryan BB needs to fix his own life, and stop trying to fix instagram and what people like. A lot of his problems would be lessened if he just read some of his own forums, like the last 10 pages of the misc and if a fraction of that would rub off on him, he'd quit simpin'.

Fellow aware brah checking in.

[The Beast1]

(11-11-2015 01:19 PM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I guess Ryan BB just confirmed it's NOT his wife.

So I guess he did dodge a bullet but his explanation just sounds so....weak.

https://instagram.com/p/98zpu1OYJV/?take...ndeluca123

Damn. He's got diarrhea of the mouth.

Would have sufficed to say:

Quote:

"She's not my wife. Just some whore.

Like all the other ones Dan paid for."

G

So my original comment is still valid.

Dude needs to get off of social media and read misc. The level of limp wristed phaggot coming off is so bad even real gay men facepalm in shame.

The need for validation is strong in this one.

[Gringuito]

(11-11-2015 01:25 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:12 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:02 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion.

How do you calculate the S&P 500 returns? If you use: http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/ you get a 20x return from January 1974 until October of this year. That would be 800M not adjusted for inflation.

Well using January with dividends reinvestment and that calculator actually gives you a 72x return. In October it's 97x so the market probably moved quite a bit that year.

Regardless; with your claim to have the same wealth as Bilzerian and being self-made; that would make you far more successful than Trump in terms of individual wealth creation.

You're right, I forgot to include the dividend reinvestment. It still ignores potential taxes along the way and ends up at 3.8B but his initial inheritance was in a range that makes your point very well. It's an interesting perspective that Trump has basically just ridden the market with his initial inheritance.

[Geomann180]

(11-11-2015 01:29 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

So my original comment is still valid.

Dude needs to get off of social media and read misc. The level of limp wristed phaggot coming off is so bad even real gay men facepalm in shame.

The need for validation is strong in this one.

Never said it wasn't - but I could be misreading your post.

Couldn't agree more if my life depended on it.

G

[Mother Russia]

Ok he clarifies it wasn't his wife but his gf, who wanted 'revenge' Maybe he dumped her, then she went to Bliz and had him take a bunch of pictures, then manipulated this guy into getting back together so she could have him humiliated like this.

Bitches love plotting things like this to 'get even'

https://www.instagram.com/p/98zpu1OYJV/?...ndeluca123

[Mother Russia]

Ok I loathe that I am posting instagram links but I really had to share this. Came across Dan Bliz's instagram while researching this 'event' and check this out, it's fucking hilarious. He's showcasing a big jeep mounted gun with models paid prostitutes posting, and a hot shell casing falls into the bra of the one in the back

https://www.instagram.com/p/98m_QQIDk2/?...nbilzerian

[Teutatis]

(11-11-2015 11:35 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Cr33pin, the love is mutual my man.

But these girls are butterfaces dude. Bottom left and top right have faces that are borderline ugly. Not one of these girls is pretty or even cute. And they're not even especially young. They look like used up whores.

Would I fuck them? If I was in a bathroom stall of a Chicago train station, I would shoot a load in their mouth or asshole depending on the particular bitch. If I was at a Newark airport hotel bar and one of them wanted to go up to her room and suck me off, I'd do that too, sure, although if I was still drinking I might just want to stay at that bar and drink and listen to some Foreigner on my device.

What I wouldn't do, as a rich guy with access to actually hot pussy, is go out of my way to be surrounded by these skanks. There is way, way, way nicer pussy out there, both for pay and for free if you have money and fame. His choices show that he has no taste.

More Bilzerian skank/butterface pics:

It's actually INCREDIBLE how many washed up whores and butterfaces are in these pics, I mean it defies probability. You could do better just pulling random pussy off the streets, and putting a little makeup on it. Guys don't understand how much decent clothing and good makeup can do to a plain girl as long as she's young.

After reviewing those pictures I have to agree with LOZ, there are indeed quite a few butterfaces or even some ugly whores in there and I'm not that picky compared to some guys.

Quote:

By contrast, the below pics are what I would consider a decent level of SLUT SURROUND. These are actual hot sluts, the kind that a rich dude should often find himself next to:

Also agree, this is pretty much what I consider 10s

[kaotic]

(11-11-2015 01:28 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:26 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

That is just cringeworthy. Ryan BB needs to fix his own life, and stop trying to fix instagram and what people like. A lot of his problems would be lessened if he just read some of his own forums, like the last 10 pages of the misc and if a fraction of that would rub off on him, he'd quit simpin'.

Fellow aware brah checking in.

lol I've read the Misc foreign, all the slang man, jesus christ, I ended up leaving and found this forum of all things.

They still have some pretty funny shit on their though.

[Dismal Operator]

(11-11-2015 01:25 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:12 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:02 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion.

How do you calculate the S&P 500 returns? If you use: http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/ you get a 20x return from January 1974 until October of this year. That would be 800M not adjusted for inflation.

Well using January with dividends reinvestment and that calculator actually gives you a 72x return. In October it's 97x so the market probably moved quite a bit that year.

There was a recession during that time, the market lost roughly 50% from late 1973 through the end of 1974.

Using the performance of the S&P 500 is a wholly inaccurate way to judge Trumps performance for a number of reasons. First, the idea that someone with $40 million would put every red cent of that into index funds, and then not touch a cent of that for 40 years is absurd.

More importantly, it's an apples to oranges comparison. You're comparing Trump to a guy like Warren Buffett. Buffett is a guy who takes capital and puts it where he thinks it's best used. Trump is an entrepreneur who uses capital to build things. The the stuff the Trumps of the world build is precisely what enables the increase in value of things like the S&P 500 and thus the wealth of investors like Buffett.

Your argument is that Trump should have taken his money and thrown it into index funds, which would have appreciated over time and got him the same net worth. But that would mean that the Trump who built a real estate business never existed, and therefore Trump's all in bet on index funds may not have done as well, owing to less actual value creation.

Bilzerian has decades on Trump in terms of time to do something with himself, but suggesting that he's on the same level as Trump in any way is ridiculous.

[AnonymousBosch]

(11-11-2015 01:05 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

When I hit 100k I will give $5000 to @garrettbozeman, pictured above, who broke his neck and hip in a bad truck accident and is having s difficult time recovering.

Or how about you just give the injured man $5000 instead of holding him to ransom as a Virtue-Signalling Prop, you narcissistic, opportunistic fucktard? You think I'm a rube who can't see you're using this notoriety to build and strengthen your personal brand, particularly now you're no longer the CEO of BB.com? And since it's 2015, of course you're using a Mental Environmentalist framework and affecting a close personal connection with me for exploitative purposes: "Let's [i.e let you and I] make the world a better place." Whatever that even fucking means anymore: that might mean diddling kids to some progressives.

I read enough of DeLuca's background yesterday about the founding of BB.com in his own words to understand he was just a would-be marketing / promotion guru who originally claimed the domain in order to start an exploitative mail-order marketing business, not out of the kindness of his heart. Having spent a lot of time there, the community made that damn site.

I grew up working class in a heavily-Christian community with extreme class stratification. After 40+ years of life, my most accurate predictor of human behaviour is simply this, rich or poor, Christian or not, the harder one virtue signals, whether through showy faith, conspicuous acts of charity or by being a pillar of the community, the more likely they're touching up kids; embezzling money; sucking dick in public parks; having multiple affairs; blackmailing; asking for protection money; running drugs; taking drugs or organising community projects for monetary kickbacks.

As such, I simply don't trust any person who harps on about what a Goodperson they are. It's as clear and reliable a signal as exists to me of guilt over moral transgressions, and, as such, I'm always on my guard around them.

The result? Over my life, I have lived to see just about every person I have personally found distasteful reveal themselves, with time, to be what I suspected they were all along. Their own actions eventually reveal their character, and if you learn to just accept that this process happens naturally regardless of your input or not, even if you are falsely-ostracised by them, life has a strange way of defaulting to justice, whether ironic or noble.

Myself? Sometimes I'm kind, sometimes I'm a prick. I'm capable of both selfish and selfless acts. Still, sometimes good intentions lead to bad results, and vice versa. When I am selfless or charitable, it's small, intimate and private, and no-one knows about it except the person receiving the help, and, as such, I know my intentions are genuine.

Bilzerian does what he does and doesn't claim to be a Goodperson. Sometimes he'll hold charity events, other times he'll conspicuously-consume in an offensive way. As such, I can see he's presenting a complex, flawed self to the world rather than a false construct*, and respect him for that, as I suspect I'd always know I'd stand with him: if I'm being a cunt, he'd simply tell me so - allowing me to agree or disagree - instead of despising me whilst pretending to be my friend. If I was his enemy, he's not going to smack talk me behind my back like a bitch, he's going to be open and upfront in his attack.

DeLuca though? The guy is behaving like a girl would, so morality would be subjective to him.

Thought experiment: you have to choose between both of these guys to lay down cover fire for you as you try to flank the enemy. Who would you trust with your life?

* You could argue Dan's attention-whoring out of narcissism or a need for attention. I just always saw this:



The quickest way to become a rock star is to act like one, and the public does the work for you.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-11-2015 01:42 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

Ok he clarifies it wasn't his wife but his gf, who wanted 'revenge' Maybe he dumped her, then she went to Bliz and had him take a bunch of pictures, then manipulated this guy into getting back together so she could have him humiliated like this.

Bitches love plotting things like this to 'get even'

https://www.instagram.com/p/98zpu1OYJV/?...ndeluca123

I'm surprised by all the guys coming into this thread not having read page 1 or my confirmation on page 2 replying to Roosh that this was his ex-gf, not his wife.

It was his ex!

That said, his reaction has been hugely disappointing. It's a great example of why working on your inner strength, composure, and ability to game is so important. Ryan could definitely benefit from reading RvF.

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 01:56 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:25 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:12 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 01:02 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion.

How do you calculate the S&P 500 returns? If you use: http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/ you get a 20x return from January 1974 until October of this year. That would be 800M not adjusted for inflation.

Well using January with dividends reinvestment and that calculator actually gives you a 72x return. In October it's 97x so the market probably moved quite a bit that year.

There was a recession during that time, the market lost roughly 50% from late 1973 through the end of 1974.

Using the performance of the S&P 500 is a wholly inaccurate way to judge Trumps performance for a number of reasons. First, the idea that someone with $40 million would put every red cent of that into index funds, and then not touch a cent of that for 40 years is absurd.

More importantly, it's an apples to oranges comparison. You're comparing Trump to a guy like Warren Buffett. Buffett is a guy who takes capital and puts it where he thinks it's best used. Trump is an entrepreneur who uses capital to build things. The the stuff the Trumps of the world build is precisely what enables the increase in value of things like the S&P 500 and thus the wealth of investors like Buffett.

Your argument is that Trump should have taken his money and thrown it into index funds, which would have appreciated over time and got him the same net worth. But that would mean that the Trump who built a real estate business never existed, and therefore Trump's all in bet on index funds may not have done as well, owing to less actual value creation.

Bilzerian has decades on Trump in terms of time to do something with himself, but suggesting that he's on the same level as Trump in any way is ridiculous.

We're both making an argument using some data that we don't actually have. How do you know he couldn't "touch a cent" when we don't know precisely how much Trump inherited in the first place? We also don't how much the 1 million he got years earlier was worth at the point of his inheritance. Trump may have outperformed the market, he may have underperformed it -- but by the data that is available -- for the purposes of argument, his performance was relatively close. Trump's 40 million being invested back then vs used for a real estate business isn't likely to have made a big enough difference in what happened with the S&P 500 that either one of us would have a different argument today.

I'm most definitely not comparing Trump to Buffet. While I like Trump's politics 100x better than Buffet's -- Buffet is the Bill Gates/Steve Jobs of the investing field. Trump is a guy who basically took daddy's money and managed to not lose it all on his multiple divorces while making a close-to-market return over 40 years. He's a smart guy with nothing to be ashamed of -- but he's a trust fund baby like Bilzerian for sure.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 02:08 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Thought experiment: you have to choose between both of these guys to lay down cover fire for you as you try to flank the enemy. Who would you trust with your life?

Neither.

[AnonymousBosch]

(11-11-2015 02:38 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Neither.

Anyway, this Goodperson prop posing for brand building purposes reminds me of something else...



... oh yeah.



Time will reveal character.

[Mother Russia]

Ok this is the sluts real instagram, the previous one was her best friend. She is not worth all this attention/trouble at all with normal makeup. Tits are obviously fake

https://www.instagram.com/soul3baby/

She is going public with her profile trying to cash in on her fame. She has even kept up small videos of the bb guy, the poor cuck, including on in which he is singing to her

He's also bought her a lamborghini or something and a Tesla

Also Dan provided a reverse shot before he took it down, someone over at bb.com saved it



Is it me or are those man feet?

[Repo]

The feet probably just look big because there closer to the camera.

[Teutatis]

I didn't even notice she had feet...

[eradicator]

Yes it's just you. The feet are fine, WB and would shit on but would kick her out afterwards, about all these instagram whores are good for

[samsamsam]

(11-11-2015 02:09 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

I'm surprised by all the guys coming into this thread not having read page 1 or my confirmation on page 2 replying to Roosh that this was his ex-gf, not his wife.

It was his ex!

That said, his reaction has been hugely disappointing. It's a great example of why working on your inner strength, composure, and ability to game is so important. Ryan could definitely benefit from reading RvF.

AO, get with the program we don't want facts. Shape up or get reported, lol

In all seriousness, thanks for re-posting that, it was a question of mine. At least he won't totally get raped unless she claims the kid Dan gives her is Ryan's.

[germanico]

Quote:

The quickest way to become a rock star is to act like one, and the public does the work for you.

Of course, you have to ask yourself, what kind of rockstar would I want to be? What kind of personna do you want to put forward?



Or

[Dismal Operator]

(11-11-2015 02:37 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

We're both making an argument using some data that we don't actually have. How do you know he couldn't "touch a cent" when we don't know precisely how much Trump inherited in the first place? We also don't how much the 1 million he got years earlier was worth at the point of his inheritance. Trump may have outperformed the market, he may have underperformed it -- but by the data that is available -- for the purposes of argument, his performance was relatively close. Trump's 40 million being invested back then vs used for a real estate business isn't likely to have made a big enough difference in what happened with the S&P 500 that either one of us would have a different argument today.

I'm most definitely not comparing Trump to Buffet. While I like Trump's politics 100x better than Buffet's -- Buffet is the Bill Gates/Steve Jobs of the investing field. Trump is a guy who basically took daddy's money and managed to not lose it all on his multiple divorces while making a close-to-market return over 40 years. He's a smart guy with nothing to be ashamed of -- but he's a trust fund baby like Bilzerian for sure.

If we don't know how much Trump inherited in the first place, it renders your argument that he's only macthing the market to be mere conjecture, and thus not even worth mentioning. To even suggest what you're continuing to repeat, you have to start with some figure of what he inherited, which you did. I'm saying that one would have to have put literally every cent into index funds in 1974 and not touch it for 40 years. That is something that no one on earth would do, not even Buffett or anyone in the money management business. You might as well be telling a police officer now collecting a pension that in 1974, 'all he had to do' was put his salary from that year in index funds and he'd have tens of millions by now. It's absurd.

You're right about Trump choosing a different path not having a material effect on the S&P 500 as a whole over that time. My point was that you're judging Trump's performance in the same way one would judge Buffett's performance and that isn't correct. There are countless businessmen who, instead of inheriting money took loans out. According to you anyone who used a loan and created something of value, but not as much value as an index fund did over that time period really did nothing at all.

If everyone just bought index funds nothing of actual tangible value would be created, and the economy would grind to a halt. You need capital, and you also need people who know to turn that capital into tangible wealth. Those are two different sets of people who are judged differently. You're basically proclaiming that Trump is a failed hedge fund manager, which would be true, if he was a hedge fund manager.

This is to say nothing of his siblings, who the part about not managing to lose dad's money and nothing else more accurately describes.

[AnonymousBosch]

I thought more about the Eeyore situation last night.

We all know women generally fake niceness to men they don't want to sleep with just in case they might serve a functional use to them down the track.

As such, the level of open contempt they held for Eeyore still shocks me.

So, thinking about their reaction, and trying to make sense of it, I could only come up with this:

- Eeyore was functioning as a woman, seeking sympathy and attention by being pathetic

- As such, women didn't see him as a man, but another woman, competing with them for the resources they'd believe they deserve.

- From that, their viciousness and contempt is less about male-female interaction and completely about how women target their disliked female rivals. Despite their constant harping on about 'fairness' and 'equality', women seek to viciously destroy women they dislike and see as enemies, where guys just usually fight to establish the pecking order.

- I'm sure you've all ignored bitches complaining about how the petty drama of work becomes how they're "Out to destroy me! NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SHE IS TRYING TO KILL ME!"

- As such, Eeyore simply was an Unpopular Girl to their eyes.

Now, think about how Eeyore came across to others in the 80's, and his pride in his pathetic weakness and obsession with children's entertainment was considered deeply-aberrant behaviour based on the social normal of the time.

Then, consider how his behaviour matches that of a Blue Pill Millennial.

Then think about the average Female Typist: her class, her political beliefs and educational and workplace experiences is going to be her interact with nothing but these Little Eeyores.

Can you see where the open, vicious contempt for men comes from? The Jezebel crew work with nothing but these types of men:





The media is now just Feminists bitching about the Weak Men they created, despite claiming to want. Note the increasing rise in Feminist's bile towards their 'male allies' and how they're seeing them just as 'creepers' trying to get into their pants. They're right.

Hell, what else is "I drink male tears" but "How dare you try to steal the sympathy and attention that I deserve?"

As such, I don't really blame Feminists for doing this. Their only mating options are these weak men they see as women, as strong men aren't interested in strong women. As such, they'll turn their attack on their White Knights and set out clear In Group / Out Group lines. Rather than being adult, strong, empowered women, they're simply behaving as their gender traditionally would have in High School.