[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:01 PM)fareast Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:53 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

I don't give a shit about Bilzerian nor the BB.com founder. I just can't stand jealous, whiny haters. As to Trump employing 22,000 people; his trust fund was an order of magnitude higher than Bilzerian's. I like Trump -- I was simply pointing out the obvious -- that like Bilzerian, he's a trust fund baby and has been less successful with his money than the market.

Why do you assume that anyone who criticizes him is jealous of him?

I have a great life. I work an honest job that pays very well, come home each evening to a beautiful girlfriend and get to travel to lots of countries most people never have a chance to visit. I'm not the slightest bit jealous -- I just think he's a piece of shit and find it strange that you seem to like him.

If you aspire to be like Dan Bilzerian, I honestly pity you and feel extremely sorry for you. Spending a night or two every few months fucking whores and partying is great; spending your entire life fucking whores and partying is a pathetic way to live that ultimately leads you nowhere.

Also, the line you're citing about Trump's wealth is extremely misleading and a flat out lie. It uses an extreme low point as the starting point (just following the 1987 stock market crash) and calculates Trump's starting wealth using the value of his properties, not his inheritance, as his starting capital.

Well don't worry bud. I don't aspire to be Dan Bilzerian. I aspire to do whatever I want whenever I want to do it. Thankfully I don't need to cry about other men's lifestyles to get there.

[Gringuito]

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

You don't seem to have a problem with fabricating what people say or attacking their character though. I never said anything about Prostitution. I'm pretty sure that nothing on Dan's page indicates he pays women to have sex with him. I wouldn't doubt he pays Instagram models to show up for some of his photoshoots which is what I was clearly referring to.

Mike, when you say:

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

No -- I don't believe ALL of them are not paid whores. It's blatantly obvious a good number of them are aspiring Emirate toilets. Regardless, I also wouldn't put it past Bilzerian to pull more and better quality pussy than his jealous haters on here...

I read that to mean that you understand that Dan is using prostitutes. (i.e. paid whores/aspiring Emirate toilets). Those are your words. I'm not putting anything into your mouth. I'm not attacking your character at all. I just disagree with you.

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:13 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

You don't seem to have a problem with fabricating what people say or attacking their character though. I never said anything about Prostitution. I'm pretty sure that nothing on Dan's page indicates he pays women to have sex with him. I wouldn't doubt he pays Instagram models to show up for some of his photoshoots which is what I was clearly referring to.

Mike, when you say:

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

No -- I don't believe ALL of them are not paid whores. It's blatantly obvious a good number of them are aspiring Emirate toilets. Regardless, I also wouldn't put it past Bilzerian to pull more and better quality pussy than his jealous haters on here...

I read that to mean that you understand that Dan is using prostitutes. (i.e. paid whores/aspiring Emirate toilets). Those are your words. I'm not putting anything into your mouth. I'm not attacking your character at all. I just disagree with you.

To clarify then;
Emirate toilets = Instagram models

I'm sure some of the girls Dan has in his photos have hooked at some point in their lives. I don't believe he's paying them to hook or that there's ever been any evidence anywhere that he is.

[AntiTrace]

it's popcorn time!

[fareast]

(11-11-2015 12:17 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:13 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

You don't seem to have a problem with fabricating what people say or attacking their character though. I never said anything about Prostitution. I'm pretty sure that nothing on Dan's page indicates he pays women to have sex with him. I wouldn't doubt he pays Instagram models to show up for some of his photoshoots which is what I was clearly referring to.

Mike, when you say:

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

No -- I don't believe ALL of them are not paid whores. It's blatantly obvious a good number of them are aspiring Emirate toilets. Regardless, I also wouldn't put it past Bilzerian to pull more and better quality pussy than his jealous haters on here...

I read that to mean that you understand that Dan is using prostitutes. (i.e. paid whores/aspiring Emirate toilets). Those are your words. I'm not putting anything into your mouth. I'm not attacking your character at all. I just disagree with you.

To clarify then;
Emirate toilets = Instagram models

I'm sure some of the girls Dan has in his photos have hooked at some point in their lives. I don't believe he's paying them to hook or that there's ever been any evidence anywhere that he is.

Isn't he incredible? There's a huge thread about Instagram models whoring themselves out yet he still clings to the belief that Bilzerian isn't paying. Do you also believe he's a successful poker player?

If so, please contact me so I can pitch you some high yield investments.

[kaotic]

Jesus christ, we've beat on a dead horse for so long with Bilz.

This is just a repeat of the cycle.

My original post was about how I thought Ryan BB ended up being a "Cuck" or whatever you'd like to call it.

We're all going to rate those sluts different, we all have different tastes.

It's clearly obvious Bilz doesn't give a shit of what people think and he enjoys his life banging top tier sluts, shooting guns, and doing whatever he wants. (Regardless of how he got his money). I don't think he defines the definition of an alpha, but he sure is doing what he wants (for now).

It's clear that Ryan BB, worked his ass off for BB, got married, kids, left his old wife for the new one, got fucked over hard by his new wife, and now he's paying the price. He turned into somewhat of a chump on IG. But he's loaded (for now).

It seems to me in this battle, Bilz is the winner. Ryan BB is the winner long term IF he learns from this fuck up.

Is Bilz an Alpha by RVF ? Probably not.

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:01 PM)fareast Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:53 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

I don't give a shit about Bilzerian nor the BB.com founder. I just can't stand jealous, whiny haters. As to Trump employing 22,000 people; his trust fund was an order of magnitude higher than Bilzerian's. I like Trump -- I was simply pointing out the obvious -- that like Bilzerian, he's a trust fund baby and has been less successful with his money than the market.

Why do you assume that anyone who criticizes him is jealous of him?

I have a great life. I work an honest job that pays very well, come home each evening to a beautiful girlfriend and get to travel to lots of countries most people never have a chance to visit. I'm not the slightest bit jealous -- I just think he's a piece of shit and find it strange that you seem to like him.

If you aspire to be like Dan Bilzerian, I honestly pity you and feel extremely sorry for you. Spending a night or two every few months fucking whores and partying is great; spending your entire life fucking whores and partying is a pathetic way to live that ultimately leads you nowhere.

Also, the line you're citing about Trump's wealth is extremely misleading and a flat out lie. It uses an extreme low point as the starting point (just following the 1987 stock market crash) and calculates Trump's starting wealth using the value of his properties, not his inheritance, as his starting capital.

Actually there's numerous calculators showing what happens to 40 million invested in the S&P 500 in 1974 and how that equates to close to what Forbes claims his wealth is today. If it uses the fair market value of properties that's hardly misleading considering one could then choose to sell them and move the investment elsewhere...

Trump's success has closely followed the S&P 500. It's not really a bad thing or indicative of poor performance. It's simply an indicator that Trump - like Bilzerian - is indeed a "trust fund" baby.

[Geomann180]

(11-11-2015 12:12 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Well don't worry bud. I don't aspire to be Dan Bilzerian. I aspire to do whatever I want whenever I want to do it. Thankfully I don't need to cry about other men's lifestyles to get there.

G

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:22 PM)fareast Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:17 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:13 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

You don't seem to have a problem with fabricating what people say or attacking their character though. I never said anything about Prostitution. I'm pretty sure that nothing on Dan's page indicates he pays women to have sex with him. I wouldn't doubt he pays Instagram models to show up for some of his photoshoots which is what I was clearly referring to.

Mike, when you say:

(11-11-2015 11:31 AM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

No -- I don't believe ALL of them are not paid whores. It's blatantly obvious a good number of them are aspiring Emirate toilets. Regardless, I also wouldn't put it past Bilzerian to pull more and better quality pussy than his jealous haters on here...

I read that to mean that you understand that Dan is using prostitutes. (i.e. paid whores/aspiring Emirate toilets). Those are your words. I'm not putting anything into your mouth. I'm not attacking your character at all. I just disagree with you.

To clarify then;
Emirate toilets = Instagram models

I'm sure some of the girls Dan has in his photos have hooked at some point in their lives. I don't believe he's paying them to hook or that there's ever been any evidence anywhere that he is.

Isn't he incredible? There's a huge thread about Instagram models whoring themselves out yet he still clings to the belief that Bilzerian isn't paying. Do you also believe he's a successful poker player?

If so, please contact me so I can pitch you some high yield investments.

I don't even know if Bilzerian is actually fucking all these girls in the first place or simply using them for Photoshoots. I don't have a hidden camera in his room. ...but based on the fact it appears he got Ryan's girl in her lingerie in his bed, he's a multi-millionaire with a bodybuilder's body, has fame, and I have some experience with women -- I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't need to pay to get laid. Maybe he's the world's biggest whoremonger? I don't know -- how do you?

Thanks to those who provided the information about his height. I never knew he was that short.

[Mother Russia]

The slut's instagram has been found. She's nothing to write home about, though makeup and the (fake?) tits help a lot to make her presentable.

https://www.instagram.com/adivinewrath/

His ex wife was better looking that this one, at least she kept herself fitter.

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:22 PM)fareast Wrote:  

Isn't he incredible? There's a huge thread about Instagram models whoring themselves out yet he still clings to the belief that Bilzerian isn't paying. Do you also believe he's a successful poker player?

If so, please contact me so I can pitch you some high yield investments.

After your pitch would you mind forwarding me the video you have of Bilzerian fucking these chicks so I can sell it to Vivid?

[kaotic]

(11-11-2015 12:34 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

The slut's instagram has been found. She's nothing to write home about, though makeup and the (fake?) tits help a lot to make her presentable.

https://www.instagram.com/adivinewrath/

His ex wife was better looking that this one, at least she kept herself fitter.

If that's really her, she's got a dauther, saggy ass titty's, her body is sagging also.

His ex wife isn't even that bad at all either. I might even say is better than his current soon to be ex wife.


I honestly could never take care of another dude's kid or marry a mother (who didn't have my children).

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:34 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

The slut's instagram has been found. She's nothing to write home about, though makeup and the (fake?) tits help a lot to make her presentable.

https://www.instagram.com/adivinewrath/

His ex wife was better looking that this one, at least she kept herself fitter.

If that's really her, she's got a dauther, saggy ass titty's, her body is sagging also.

His ex wife isn't even that bad at all either. I might even say is better than his current soon to be ex wife.


I honestly could never take care of another dude's kid or marry a mother (who didn't have my children).

To me it doesn't really look like her...maybe Bilzerian shopped her face.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 12:24 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Actually there's numerous calculators showing what happens to 40 million invested in the S&P 500 in 1974 and how that equates to close to what Forbes claims his wealth is today. If it uses the fair market value of properties that's hardly misleading considering one could then choose to sell them and move the investment elsewhere...

Trump's success has closely followed the S&P 500. It's not really a bad thing or indicative of poor performance. It's simply an indicator that Trump - like Bilzerian - is indeed a "trust fund" baby.

Where are you getting this from? Trump got a 1M loan from his father when he was just starting out in the 1960s, did well right from the start with real estate deals in Manhattan. This is well documented(not just by Trump).

We don't know how much he inherited from his father's death in 1974, I've read articles that claim he got anywhere from 40M to 200M in 1974 from the inheritance. If it was 40M, and he turned that, plus what he already made into 10B today, that is much more than outperforming the S&P 500.

https://www.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-i...kable-rate

Quote:

Another way to look at the data is to assume he inherited $40 million in 1974, at the low end of estimates. If he had invested that $40 million in an S&P 500 index, fund, he'd be worth about 3 billion today — which is in line with third party estimates of 3 and 4 billion today for his net worth.

But look at the facts, even when he took the 1M loan, Trump immediately started doing well with the business he created, before he inherited anything. Trying to compare that, to what Bilzerian is doing is comparing apples to oranges. Bilzerian never did anything like that through any of his online poker deals or other ventures. Until now, I've never seen anyone try to compare Bilzerian to a legitimate businessman.

You just seem hell bent on giving Bilzerian way too much credit, for whatever reason. Trying to compare him to a legit businessman isn't a very good comparison.

[Mother Russia]

(11-11-2015 12:47 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:44 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:34 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

The slut's instagram has been found. She's nothing to write home about, though makeup and the (fake?) tits help a lot to make her presentable.

https://www.instagram.com/adivinewrath/

His ex wife was better looking that this one, at least she kept herself fitter.

If that's really her, she's got a dauther, saggy ass titty's, her body is sagging also.

His ex wife isn't even that bad at all either. I might even say is better than his current soon to be ex wife.


I honestly could never take care of another dude's kid or marry a mother (who didn't have my children).

To me it doesn't really look like her...

It is. Look at the comments she wrote on her latest pic, plus she looks like she does in Dan's expose' pic in one of her pictures on the first page of her gram.

Chicks can basically morph their faces entirely with makeup tricks.

[kaotic]

Yeah i see it now, make up sure can change everything.

[Mother Russia]

And this retarded guy Ryan updated his 'gram with this comment, this guy is really the king of cucks (for this month at least). Instead of dumping his whore right there and leaving her in Spain with nothing but her luggage, he does this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/970fhQOYDM/

His net worth is 100 million plus. I guess it goes to show that even if you are self made, and he is and he did very well at a very young age, you can still be quite naive even though you already have a previous ex wife and an 11 year old kid with her. I think it's because most of his self made money was made from home via his bb website.

[achromaticmike]

(11-11-2015 12:51 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 12:24 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Actually there's numerous calculators showing what happens to 40 million invested in the S&P 500 in 1974 and how that equates to close to what Forbes claims his wealth is today. If it uses the fair market value of properties that's hardly misleading considering one could then choose to sell them and move the investment elsewhere...

Trump's success has closely followed the S&P 500. It's not really a bad thing or indicative of poor performance. It's simply an indicator that Trump - like Bilzerian - is indeed a "trust fund" baby.

Where are you getting this from? Trump got a 1M loan from his father when he was just starting out in the 1960s, did well right from the start with real estate deals in Manhattan. This is well documented(not just by Trump).

We don't know how much he inherited from his father's death in 1974, I've read articles that claim he got anywhere from 40M to 200M in 1974 from the inheritance. If it was 40M, and he turned that, plus what he already made into 10B today, that is much more than outperforming the S&P 500.

https://www.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump-i...kable-rate

Quote:

Another way to look at the data is to assume he inherited $40 million in 1974, at the low end of estimates. If he had invested that $40 million in an S&P 500 index, fund, he'd be worth about 3 billion today — which is in line with third party estimates of 3 and 4 billion today for his net worth.

But look at the facts, even when he took the 1M loan, Trump immediately started doing well with the business he created, before he inherited anything. Trying to compare that, to what Bilzerian is doing is comparing apples to oranges. Bilzerian never did anything like that through any of his online poker deals or other ventures. Until now, I've never seen anyone try to compare Bilzerian to a legitimate businessman.

You just seem hell bent on giving Bilzerian way too much credit, for whatever reason. Trying to compare him to a legit businessman isn't a very good comparison.

http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion. It seems like you agree with that though so what's the issue? Trump has performed in-line with the market making him a de-facto trust fund baby. If he inherited $500,000 we probably would have never heard of him.

Bilzerian has 9.7 million Instagram followers. I have no idea how or if he is able to translate that into cash somehow but it's very likely he either is doing it already or will be able to do it in the future. For example; how much was he paid for the dollar beard club ads or is he paid for club promotions? Regardless, if he hadn't inherited ~50 million we probably would have never heard of him either.

Per some on here Bilzerian is like a male Kardashian. Well I'm sure you know this but those cum-dumpsters are loaded. Bilzerian is in business -- the business of self-promotion.

[eradicator]

^So people don't have to click, this is what Ryan is doing now, it seems just full of fail. He is making his mission in life to get more instragram followers by doing charitable acts instead of debauched photo stunts to try to "fix the internet". The internet isn't broken. He ought to get off of instagram and start doing something more worthwhile but it looks like he will never learn that, simps gonna simp.

Quote:

ryandeluca123(Instagram deleted my last post because it included Dan's phone number. I'm going to send Garrett $5000 since they messed up the plan. More posts coming soon. Old post below.) Planned to spend two months in Barcelona but ended up spending only two days. I have a new mission now. It's time for doing good to get more attention than misogyny, narcissism, selfies, and promiscuity. Follow me and unfollow the world's biggest douche bag, @danbilzerian (who blocked me on IG, btw ?). My 11 year old son knows you need tinder to start a fire. I went from 11k followers to almost 40k in one day. We need more.
When I hit 100k I will give $5000 to @garrettbozeman, pictured above, who broke his neck and hip in a bad truck accident and is having s difficult time recovering.
I will also give out $1000 to 10 random followers that tag friends.
This is about using something bad to create good. Tag your friends. Shame all that follow him and his negative effect on the world and on our kids.
Let's not break the Internet. Let's FIX it.

[Geomann180]

A better response from Ryan DeLuca would have been:

"Was she bought and paid for like all the other women?"

G

[Gringuito]

(11-11-2015 01:02 PM)achromaticmike Wrote:  

Per Forbes -- the gold standard without all his assets in front of us -- Trump is worth 4.5 billion. He values himself at 10 because he claims his "brand-value" is worth that much. Assuming a 40 million investment in the S&P 500 in 1974 - the lower end of the estimates -- he'd have closer to 4 billion.

How do you calculate the S&P 500 returns? If you use: http://dqydj.net/sp-500-return-calculator/ you get a 20x return from January 1974 until October of this year. That would be 800M not adjusted for inflation.

[kaotic]

(11-11-2015 12:59 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

And this retarded guy Ryan updated his 'gram with this comment, this guy is really the king of cucks (for this month at least). Instead of dumping his whore right there and leaving her in Spain with nothing but her luggage, he does this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/970fhQOYDM/

His net worth is 100 million plus. I guess it goes to show that even if you are self made, and he is and he did very well at a very young age, you can still be quite naive even though you already have a previous ex wife and an 11 year old kid with her. I think it's because most of his self made money was made from home via his bb website.

Jesus christL

Quote:

It's time for doing good to get more attention than misogyny, narcissism, selfies, and promiscuity. Follow me and unfollow the world's biggest douche bag, @danbilzerian (who blocked me on IG, btw ?). My 11 year old son knows you need tinder to start a fire.

He sounds like a little bitch, siding with the lefties when he talks about misogyny.

Yes his son will need Tinder, the app

Seriously, this guys is having a mental breakdown trying to be positive pete in the wake of having soul crushed publicly.

[Grange]

Are there any pictures of Bilzerian showing him living the alpha playboy life that he didn't stage/take himself?

That need for external validation bro.

[kaotic]

I guess Ryan BB just confirmed it's NOT his wife.

So I guess he did dodge a bullet but his explanation just sounds so....weak.

https://instagram.com/p/98zpu1OYJV/?take...ndeluca123

[Gringuito]

(11-11-2015 12:59 PM)Mother Russia Wrote:  

And this retarded guy Ryan updated his 'gram with this comment, this guy is really the king of cucks (for this month at least). Instead of dumping his whore right there and leaving her in Spain with nothing but her luggage, he does this:

https://www.instagram.com/p/970fhQOYDM/

His net worth is 100 million plus. I guess it goes to show that even if you are self made, and he is and he did very well at a very young age, you can still be quite naive even though you already have a previous ex wife and an 11 year old kid with her. I think it's because most of his self made money was made from home via his bb website.

That's very sad. He seems to be doubling down on beta. Hopefully he'll think more clearly after a while.

Edit: So it was his ex-girlfriend. Nothing to see here...moving along...