[achromaticmike]

Poor Ryan. He's going to be known as a simp until the end of time now.

Looks like one of her Instagram friends called her out

[kaotic]

^^^Doubt that's one of her friends, incoming trolls now know her IG name, just wait....

[AnonymousBosch]

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 06:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

If Dan's paying that girl for the evening, then no, that isn't how it is supposed to work.

[Latinopan]

(11-10-2015 01:54 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 01:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

He's making his own money through sponsors I believe.

He's started hosting clubs so that's something. But that won't be close enough to support his lifestyle.

This is something I read about, his money comes from his father, that is about 150 millions, Dan himself does not work, he must spend several millions every year between high end hoes, parties and other hobbies, there is not way any he can keep this level without making at leas 5 millions a year, and that is very few lucky CEOs, unless he can catch up some reality show (The situations from Jersey Shore was making 5 millions the time the show was on) I don't see him with any job that will allows him this level of expenses.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 07:01 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 01:54 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

(11-10-2015 01:47 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

He's making his own money through sponsors I believe.

He's started hosting clubs so that's something. But that won't be close enough to support his lifestyle.

This is something I read about, his money comes from his father, that is about 150 millions, Dan himself does not work, he must spend several millions every year between high end hoes, parties and other hobbies, there is not way any he can keep this level without making at leas 5 millions a year, and that is very few lucky CEOs, unless he can catch up some reality show (The situations from Jersey Shore was making 5 millions the time the show was on) I don't see him with any job that will allows him this level of expenses.

Eh, he must have some of it invested in stocks and bonds. Those pay out dividends. Even if he puts $100M in the bank, he will get some interest on it. If all he is doing is living off of the interest, that is still a decent amount to live off of.

[Cr33pin]

A lot of you guys are naive to instagram, youtube, internet fame.... Maybe in the beginning Dan hired some of these girls for photo ops. But now he is a famous, buff, bearded, rich, Lamborghini driving, world traveling playboy..... Girls are lined up to be with this guy....

Some of you fellars are delusional

Morgan Hultgren, one of Dans GFs

[AnonymousBosch]

(11-11-2015 07:00 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 06:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

If Dan's paying that girl for the evening, then no, that isn't how it is supposed to work.

I was expecting someone to say that. That is how a well-fucked woman who adores her man and is thrilled to be within his protective sphere behaves. If you don't recognise that behaviour, then you're not there yet. Hell, there's an entire thread in the bodybuilding section with guys denying that women have this kind of response to size and power.

I've worked with prostitutes. They're not that convincing or devoted in their affections, since Johns are usually too inexperienced to tell authentic behaviour from false and women aren't going to put in any more than the minimal effort required due to natural female laziness.

[monster]

I think many posters are being way too hard on Ryan BB. He threw the girl to curb when he found out, which is exactly what everyone on this forum would advise.

It seems like many posters are posturing that he's a wuss for being cheated on in the first place. Anyone who's saying this has never been in the dating game. People cheat. Period. If you've never been cheated on you haven't been playing the game long enough. Girls have cheated on famous rockstars, famous wrestlers, famous politicians, etc. Throw in partying and alcohol and girls would cheat on Don Juan himself.

Anonymous Bosch, who otherwise regularly has some of the most astute observations on this forum, has drawn comparisons of Ryan BB to a child hood friend Eyeore and this has started a trend to criticize Ryan BB. I don't know how one could compare a self-made man worth 1/4 billion dollars in less than two decades to a comic book nerd working in a basement comic book store. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum and I don't feel even belong in an attempted analogy.

Furthermore, AB has alluded that Ryan's responses are female-centric. I don't really care to argue whether or not they are, but I do want to point out the fact that this ignores the fact that Dan B's livelihood is based on Paris Hilton-level attention whoring. Can you recall any man who has ever become famous off Instagram other than Dan? No. But you can recall hearing about hundreds of girls who have! If it weren't for the female-like attention whoring of Dan B, not one of us would have ever heard of him. It's only fair that if one wants to call out Ryan BB's behavior as female-like it's necessary to point out Dan B's livelihood is to do nothing all day except lie around in pajamas or in night clubs and post selfies.

The bottom line is Ryan B doesn't deserve the slack he's getting from some of the haters here. I feel there's a lot of posturing with poster's going, "he's such a beta; if that was me I would never have gotten cheated on in the first place." Bullshit, that's a blue pill view. A red pill view acknowledges human nature for what it is, and girls on the whole have always cheated and will continue to do so. According to evolutionary psychologists in the book Sperm Wars they're hardwired for it. Blue pill means denial of human nature, and to deny that there's not a girl who would not cheat on you is entirely blue pill.

The best a man can do is be aware of female nature and take notice if there starts to be suspicious behavior. Then if one catches her red-handed throw her to the curb. Don't ignore the signs and take the right action. And from reading the master thread over at the Misc forum on this situation (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=169521143) that appears to be exactly what Ryan BB has done.

Things rarely go the way you want it to. And when they don't you have to take the right action in order to deal with inherent unpredictability of life.

I'm defending Ryan not just because I got into bodybuilding and fitness after discovering the bodybuilding.com forums but because I admire men who are productive and create something from nothing. Half the threads on this forum are about entrepreneurship and asking how to quit a job flipping burgers and become wealthy, beholden to no boss. Ryan is someone who has done this and from seeing how he has did this and created a lifestyle of productivity and wealth I believe he has more to offer this forum than most. And certainly more than Dan who was born into wealth and doesn't know the hardships of not having money, of having to find a job, of managing work-life balance, and other things that preoccupy those of us trying to raise our position in life.

[nek]

(11-11-2015 08:24 PM)monster Wrote:  

I think many posters are being way too hard on Ryan BB. He threw the girl to curb when he found out, which is exactly what everyone on this forum would advise.

It seems like many posters are posturing that he's a wuss for being cheated on in the first place. Anyone who's saying this has never been in the dating game. People cheat. Period. If you've never been cheated on you haven't been playing the game long enough. Girls have cheated on famous rockstars, famous wrestlers, famous politicians, etc. Throw in partying and alcohol and girls would cheat on Don Juan himself.

Anonymous Bosch, who otherwise regularly has some of the most astute observations on this forum, has drawn comparisons of Ryan BB to a child hood friend Eyeore and this has started a trend to criticize Ryan BB. I don't know how one could compare a self-made man worth 1/4 billion dollars in less than two decades to a comic book nerd working in a basement comic book store. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum and I don't feel even belong in an attempted analogy.

Furthermore, AB has alluded that Ryan's responses are female-centric. I don't really care to argue whether or not they are, but I do want to point out the fact that this ignores the fact that Dan B's livelihood is based on Paris Hilton-level attention whoring. Can you recall any man who has ever become famous off Instagram other than Dan? No. But you can recall hearing about hundreds of girls who have! If it weren't for the female-like attention whoring of Dan B, not one of us would have ever heard of him. It's only fair that if one wants to call out Ryan BB's behavior as female-like it's necessary to point out Dan B's livelihood is to do nothing all day except lie around in pajamas or in night clubs and post selfies.

The bottom line is Ryan B doesn't deserve the slack he's getting from some of the haters here. I feel there's a lot of posturing with poster's going, "he's such a beta; if that was me I would never have gotten cheated on in the first place." Bullshit, that's a blue pill view. A red pill view acknowledges human nature for what it is, and girls on the whole have always cheated and will continue to do so. According to evolutionary psychologists in the book Sperm Wars they're hardwired for it. Blue pill means denial of human nature, and to deny that there's not a girl who would not cheat on you is entirely blue pill.

The best a man can do is be aware of female nature and take notice if there starts to be suspicious behavior. Then if one catches her red-handed throw her to the curb. Don't ignore the signs and take the right action. And from reading the master thread over at the Misc forum on this situation (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread...=169521143) that appears to be exactly what Ryan BB has done.

Things rarely go the way you want it to. And when they don't you have to take the right action in order to deal with inherent unpredictability of life.

I'm defending Ryan not just because I got into bodybuilding and fitness after discovering the bodybuilding.com forums but because I admire men who are productive and create something from nothing. Half the threads on this forum are about entrepreneurship and asking how to quit a job flipping burgers and become wealthy, beholden to no boss. Ryan is someone who has done this and from seeing how he has did this and created a lifestyle of productivity and wealth I believe he has more to offer this forum than most. And certainly more than Dan who was born into wealth and doesn't know the hardships of not having money, of having to find a job, of managing work-life balance, and other things that preoccupy those of us trying to raise our position in life.

[AnonymousBosch]

You've misread my point: the comparison to Eeyore is more about the overwhelming trend in Blue Pill Millennial Men being socialised into Feminine behaviour, of which DeLuca is simply another example of, as per Roosh's recent essay.

I find the cultural difference fascinating between what men were and how they'd handle their shit versus what they are now. This is why I can see the tells of what is 'off' about the guy. The majority of young educated men I meet now strike me as heterosexual homosexuals.

If I piled on after that - and to be honest, the thread seems more negative towards Dan - it's because he's a classic Virtue Signaller and rubbed me the wrong way, which means, he'd throw all of us under the bus for Political Correctness.

The guy used an baseless accusation of 'misogyny' against Bilzerian as a shaming tactic. If you cannot see that he is clearly not one of us, yet still choose to pledge your allegiance to him, well, you deserve to get fucked over by him. This is why I have as little respect for the guy as his girlfriend obviously does, no matter what he built.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 07:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 07:00 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 06:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

If Dan's paying that girl for the evening, then no, that isn't how it is supposed to work.

I was expecting someone to say that. That is how a well-fucked woman who adores her man and is thrilled to be within his protective sphere behaves. If you don't recognise that behaviour, then you're not there yet. Hell, there's an entire thread in the bodybuilding section with guys denying that women have this kind of response to size and power.

Oh I agree with all of this, women want to feel this way about the man they are dating.

Quote:

I've worked with prostitutes. They're not that convincing or devoted in their affections, since Johns are usually too inexperienced to tell authentic behaviour from false and women aren't going to put in any more than the minimal effort required due to natural female laziness.

I've never dealt with prostitutes, but assumed the well paid ones would behave better. If your convinced that the woman with Dan here is not a prostitute, I'd be open to saying that it's possible.

Is it odd that I just now noticed that Farber got dealt pocket kings with a 7M dollar pot?

[Walker]

(11-11-2015 07:58 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

A lot of you guys are naive to instagram, youtube, internet fame.... Maybe in the beginning Dan hired some of these girls for photo ops. But now he is a famous, buff, bearded, rich, Lamborghini driving, world traveling playboy..... Girls are lined up to be with this guy....

Some of you fellars are delusional

Morgan Hultgren, one of Dans GFs

I assume dan pays the instagram models to be seen on camera with him.

The girls who fuck him for free will always want to be secretive about what they're doing.

[Geomann180]

Quote:

AnonBosch

+1 ^

I don't like Dan Bilzerian, but Ryan DeLuca is even worse.

I can't respect a guy who abases himself in such ways in the name of political correctness. At this point, I'd fear for his sons, what with all the crap he's teaching.

He may be a "good" man, but he is bad a being a man.

Dan Bilz may be a "bad" man, but he is good at being a man, and I can respect that, at least.

G

[fareast]

(11-11-2015 07:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 07:00 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 06:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

If Dan's paying that girl for the evening, then no, that isn't how it is supposed to work.

I was expecting someone to say that. That is how a well-fucked woman who adores her man and is thrilled to be within his protective sphere behaves. If you don't recognise that behaviour, then you're not there yet. Hell, there's an entire thread in the bodybuilding section with guys denying that women have this kind of response to size and power.

I've worked with prostitutes. They're not that convincing or devoted in their affections, since Johns are usually too inexperienced to tell authentic behaviour from false and women aren't going to put in any more than the minimal effort required due to natural female laziness.

Literally everything in Bilzerian's life is staged and/or a lie. The seat he sits in, directly in front of the camera, is deliberate. The girl stroking his beard is deliberate. The whole thing is designed to create more publicity for him. It's all a show, like reality TV. If you can't understand this you are hopelessly naive and stupid.

Watch any interview with him. Within 20-30 seconds of hearing him speak you can tell he's a serial liar. Feel free to post another long, ranting body language overanalysis if you want to prove how alpha he is, but it's clear to anyone with even the slightest amount of brainpower and critical thinking skills that the guy's just a whoremonger.

[MrXY]

He has no excuse.

The Misc has said a million times, "Sloots gonna sloot."

[nek]

(11-11-2015 07:58 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

A lot of you guys are naive to instagram, youtube, internet fame.... Maybe in the beginning Dan hired some of these girls for photo ops. But now he is a famous, buff, bearded, rich, Lamborghini driving, world traveling playboy..... Girls are lined up to be with this guy....

Some of you fellars are delusional

Morgan Hultgren, one of Dans GFs

Thank you for this. I hope its real more than I hoped Santa Claus was real as a child.

[nek]

It's been touched on by a few commenters but I'd like to just get into it: If this happened to you how'd you respond? I have to be honest I'm not sure what I'd do beyond not putting shit on social media.

[eradicator]

(11-11-2015 09:08 PM)fareast Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 07:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 07:00 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(11-11-2015 06:39 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Look at the body language: he's a prop to her.

Contrast with Dan in the background, showing how the male-female dynamic is supposed to work.

If Dan's paying that girl for the evening, then no, that isn't how it is supposed to work.

I was expecting someone to say that. That is how a well-fucked woman who adores her man and is thrilled to be within his protective sphere behaves. If you don't recognise that behaviour, then you're not there yet. Hell, there's an entire thread in the bodybuilding section with guys denying that women have this kind of response to size and power.

I've worked with prostitutes. They're not that convincing or devoted in their affections, since Johns are usually too inexperienced to tell authentic behaviour from false and women aren't going to put in any more than the minimal effort required due to natural female laziness.

Literally everything in Bilzerian's life is staged and/or a lie. The seat he sits in, directly in front of the camera, is deliberate. The girl stroking his beard is deliberate. The whole thing is designed to create more publicity for him. It's all a show, like reality TV. If you can't understand this you are hopelessly naive and stupid.

Watch any interview with him. Within 20-30 seconds of hearing him speak you can tell he's a serial liar. Feel free to post another long, ranting body language overanalysis if you want to prove how alpha he is, but it's clear to anyone with even the slightest amount of brainpower and critical thinking skills that the guy's just a whoremonger.

Bosh isn't naive and stupid. We don't have to agree with each other about everything you know, and Bilzarian is probably the most polarizing character that comes up on these forums.

It's more likely as you say though, that the woman in the video is a hired actress, perhaps not a full on prostitute.

[Gmac]

When she looks like that... you gotta assume it's gonna happen. I'll take something in between any day.

[Mekorig]

This Bilzerian dude...you guys seems to know more about him, but i can not avoid to find some similarities with some local deseaced look-alike, Ricardo Fort, also a spoiled man-child, surrounded by whore to hide his homosexuality (at least at first, by his last days he did not hide it).

[dispenser]

(11-11-2015 03:47 AM)fareast Wrote:  

To flaunt cash your parents stole is pretty pathetic.

How so?
I'm really not following your logic.
When you say "pathetic," do you perhaps mean "immoral," or "disapproved of by my local vicar"?

---

Bilzerian's pretty crass, but he knows what he likes, and has good sense for publicity.
It's not the route I would go, if I had his resources. I'd be more inclined to put up entry barriers, make myself exclusive, than to be a media personality.

[Anabasis to Desta]

(11-11-2015 07:58 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

A lot of you guys are naive to instagram, youtube, internet fame.... Maybe in the beginning Dan hired some of these girls for photo ops. But now he is a famous, buff, bearded, rich, Lamborghini driving, world traveling playboy..... Girls are lined up to be with this guy....

Some of you fellars are delusional

Morgan Hultgren, one of Dans GFs

I'm anti eating groceries but I'd enthusiastically dive in tongue first into that booty!

[Roosh]

I'm sure Dan has paid for girls in the past, but (1) it's doubtful it was for every hottie he banged and (2) he's surely paying less for hoes now than before.

[WanderingSoul]

(11-11-2015 07:58 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

A lot of you guys are naive to instagram, youtube, internet fame.... Maybe in the beginning Dan hired some of these girls for photo ops. But now he is a famous, buff, bearded, rich, Lamborghini driving, world traveling playboy..... Girls are lined up to be with this guy....

Some of you fellars are delusional

Morgan Hultgren, one of Dans GFs

I haven't read much of this thread but I'd wager damn near every single guy bagging on Bilzerian for paying girls would drop a grand in a heartbeat to fuck that girl if they had millions in the bank. That's like worrying about buying a $1 cheeseburger from the value menu.