Quote: (11-22-2017 09:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:
The hip moves sound interesting, anything that illustrates this?
I think that realogist's hip movement point from his earlier post was to attempt to be varied with your hip movements, and the best way to get better is to practice, whether you practice privately or you practice on the dance floor. Some kinds of moves might come to you as you are "working" the girl, rather than practicing privately... Some more basic moves you can work privately and then when you have the girl with you then you try to put that practice into play.. and sometimes you have to mentally visualize and purposefully tell yourself, I am going to try this now... .
Whether it is hip isolation or some other body isolation movements, I will acknowledge that most hip hop dancers and free style dancers are going to be much better than me at such body isolation moves - because that might be core to their kinds of dance, as compared with the kind of dancing that I do; however, I have been dancing for nearly 16 years, and probably the past few years, I have been working on practicing various kinds of my body movements and isolation.. I frequently do what is called body rolls or shoulder rolls and there are variations and extremes in that.. you can have rolling sensations or shaking sensation or even a kind of vibrating sensation.. and the more you practice differing direction and differing motions the easier they become to put into play when having a girl with you ..
Sometimes I learn how to do shoulder and body rolls better by practicing on my own, and sometimes I practice with a girl (or girls over time in private lessons) or sometimes I just practice in clubs.. once you have a few basic ones, then you can practice others on the dance floor, rather than spending private time on such practice.
The more you do it the easier and less awkward it gets and the better you get at moving to the music or at least some kind of rythm that may somewhat close to the music... some girls are going to notice and others will not.. some girls have a really good "in-touchness with the music", and other girls are like total newbies.. and of course newbies can be easier to impress with basic movements.
Sometimes movement is much better, when you abruptly stop, too, especially if the music stops (or pauses), then you are just emphasizing the music with your own movement.
Back to synchronization - body isolation can be with any part of the body, but when she can feel you or see you that will cause her to attempt to synchronize with you (that is if she is trying to synchronize), and shoulders and chest and body rolls can frequently be part of that whole mix of changing the movements without necessarily only going with hips.
Quote: (11-22-2017 09:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:
I was thinking just grabbing her hands, move them them in a cyclical manner first, then full or half spins before holding her waist and bringing her in.
I am thinking that working the hands may be a bit too timid, but sure, you can do whatever you think works and transition between different things, as long as you try to make it work for you. I have found that using the hands or arms, sometimes it can be difficult to get the girl to synchronize with you because she might have "noodle arms" or a noodle connection, which does not tend to work as well with feeling connection, and in that sense sometimes if you are having trouble getting the girl to synch with you and to move with you, it is a matter of moving in more to the core, which can be shoulders or hips.. and then you are grabbing and touching parts that are acceptable... even with a girl that you may have just met. Her hips have bones on each side, and that is where you start,.. Frequently you start out by grabbing the more "acceptable" areas, and sometimes you avoid too much sexuality, especially if you are in public and still getting to know each other. Sometimes I have even grabbed a girl by the belt loop and said "I sure am glad that you have these belt loops so I have something to grab onto", or if she does not have loops, you might grab her by the hip and then move her around a bit, and then tell her that it would be a lot easier if she had belt loops or a belt because she is too slippery.. hahahahaha You just play around with the whole situation, go with the flow, and try to work the situation to your advantage, to have fun with it and to see how she reacts.. there is no hard and fast rule, except perhaps trying to make the whole matter fun, smooth and comfortable, even when there may be awkward moments or moments that something might seem to be going too far... and make a joke about the situation and maybe pull back before going in again.
Quote: (11-22-2017 09:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:
At this point, there has to be some convo before going for the kiss. For the most part, the house music in clubs are seldom conducive for salsa or other fancy moves.
This surely will vary from situation to situation. There may be feedback without convo.. and you may be able to do fancy or not so fancy dance moves, but still be able to impress the girl merely by going with the flow or even making shit up. Sometimes, I attempt to make the girl comfortable by telling her that I just make up my dance moves as I go along, and that kind of line seems to work better when I know the move really well, and to cause her to have more comfort and she likely knows that I have already done some of the moves hundreds of times but she kind of accepts my representation on a preliminary basis.
Quote: (11-22-2017 09:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:
Whispering in her ear is definitely a nice move, in such a loud environment.
Sometimes just a way to get interaction rather than considered whispering as a "move"... but sometimes you may feel more confident to go further if you are getting decent feedback from her.
Quote: (11-22-2017 09:32 PM)Hazaer Wrote:
It cant be too sexual or it might be creepy (since you just met her) but funny while conveying attraction to her. What are some witty yet, attraction building lines that have worked for you?
I doubt that there is any set formula to any of the lines, except that some lines might work better for you and play to the situation better than others... and with practice you can just become more witty by playing around with it.. for example, you could whisper in her ear, and then get her to whisper back and then ask her if she just bit your ear because you though that you felt her teeth on your ear. Just having fun with it and improvising.
There sometimes is some kind of variation of a "one liner" that i say that I probably would not want to share on a public forum, because I kind of feel like it is my word choice, and maybe some other guys say something similar, but I feel like it is a bit unique, too... but I don't think that there is any one formula... and that if you practice various lines, there will be some that you tend to repeat, and they kind of become your own one liner that you feel is genuine each time that you use it.. perhaps?