[Samseau]

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Samseau, do you feel comfortable with a wing man who has no dancing skills respectivly with a
girl who can´t dance?

So the wing and girl each have poor dancing skills?

Well, it doesn't really matter how good her skills are. I've picked up girls who suck at dancing. In fact, they usually make the easiest lays because they are so impressed by your dancing talents that they themselves lack. It makes them feel feminine in awe of your skill (or something... who the fuck knows how dancing works?).

So if the wing man can't dance and he's with you at a dancing venue, I just hope he has some other form of game that works well in super-loud settings. Talking game can work, but the environment really works against you.

[Bill]

Samseau, what Do you think of developing fame through dance.

This is now over the top but even 5% of this guys fame level would make
everything easier. Btw this guy is from germany and gay.

keyword: camillo laurcella
He has 25k likers in facebook through dance. That is more than many
celebrities.

[Samseau]

I looked up him, he's really good. Looks like at least 10 years of practice on his part. It's not his moves per se that makes him a good dancer, it's his explosive energy and distinct style that really sets him apart. He's only into solo-dancing, however, where I think partner dancing is by far and away more effective for the average man.

Remember, you don't need to be so good at dancing that you can give classes. You just need to be able to look better than most other dancers at the club and better than 97% or so of the other men the girl you're dancing with has been with. There wouldn't be a point to dance floor game if you had to be as good as Camillo Laurcella.

[Bill]

Yes that´s the problem with me. I am very good at solo dancing and when I do
partner dancing it´s like downgrading and loosing my power. Still I dance comparatively ok, but it feels wrong. I can be even more energetic at dancing than Camillo Laurcella, because I do only improvisations, so I don´t have to think at dancing like he has to do. But it´s totally true that partner dancing is much more effective. It´s bad that I am not so much in to salsa, because in munich there are so many options.

I am not so shure if people nowadays really can appreciate solo dancing skills because I think
the peak point was when MJ was popular. Nowadays when people dance than it´s some artificial looking class dance. As I said in the past there were competitions here but this is totally gone.
I would like to find people and venues with an "Saturday Night" flair. This would absolutely
suit my game without compromise.

But the question is does something like that exist? I am shure it must exist, I can not be the
only one who would like that style. The dance films in the cinema suggest at least that
people like this kind of thing. Maybe only the teenagers. I dont know.

Anyway thanks for your suggestions


PS: This is slightly offtopic though possibly interesting. It´s a scientific study which found:
"Frequent dancing apparently makes us smarter"
socialdance.stanford.edu/syllabi/smarter.htm

[Samseau]

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I would like to find people and venues with an "Saturday Night" flair. This would absolutely
suit my game without compromise.

Disco has seen it's hayday go, but some places still have disco nights. I know a place in Boston that does one night a month on Tuesday night's for disco. If you want to pick up girls I recommend updating the music styles you dance to, because disco is basically dead.

[Bill]

Dance game at lunch? That could make having lunch
much more fun? What do you think?

"YOUR MOST IMPORTANT BUSINESS LUNCH"

By promoting 1 hour of day time dancing we make it possible to fully embody the buzzwords of playfulness, particiption & community. A physical knowledge that will make you create magic during the rest of your day too, and so will make Lunch Beat your week's most important business lunch.


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[mental]

Sorry if it's been answered somewhere, but search hasn't given me concrete answers. While I can dance good with confidence in clubs, I'd like to know which dance is best to learn for a typical club. In addition to swing (which isn't taught in any of the dance schools here), which is the best dance to learn? I'm guessing salsa but I'd like recommendations. Thanks in advance.

[Samseau]

(08-06-2012 02:32 PM)mental Wrote:  

Sorry if it's been answered somewhere, but search hasn't given me concrete answers. While I can dance good with confidence in clubs, I'd like to know which dance is best to learn for a typical club. In addition to swing (which isn't taught in any of the dance schools here), which is the best dance to learn? I'm guessing salsa but I'd like recommendations. Thanks in advance.

Club dancing is all about creativity and expressing fresh new moves. In particular, learning how to break dance will separate you from everyone else. Break dancing itself won't get you laid, but it will teach you how to move your body in new ways that will impress women.

[mental]

(08-06-2012 04:34 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Club dancing is all about creativity and expressing fresh new moves. In particular, learning how to break dance will separate you from everyone else. Break dancing itself won't get you laid, but it will teach you how to move your body in new ways that will impress women.

Thanks. I already dance pretty cool I think (shoulders + arms + legs moving to the rhythm) but it gets stale pretty quick, so I was planning to take dancing lessons so I would get more moves to combine and all that, and also I started to really enjoy dancing in clubs. So, would you recommend to learn first salsa or break dancing? I hear salsa a lot here on RVF but I like as much advice as possible.

[Samseau]

You'll get more mileage from learning partner dancing first. Partner dancing is the key to getting laid. But in most club situations, girls aren't going to want to dance with you unless you're extremely good looking or have good dance moves.

So first and foremost learn how to partner dance well, then step up your game with some break dancing.

I have no idea what's popular in Bosnia, but take the dance that's most popular there.

Generally speaking, you need to learn the dance that's popular with the younger girls. Where I live, Swing dancing gets a lot of teenage girls as well as early twenty hotties. Salsa gets girls between the age 25-35, and tango gets old wrinkly women between 45-65. That's why I learned swing.

[BurnFirst]

Disco is alive and well now it's called house music.

[maddog152fo]

Damn. Damn damn damn.

[manilaguy]

Does this work with Salsa/Latin Dancing?

- One on one; skills based
- More girls than guys
- Usually non-drunk girls and dancers
- More age-range

here's my thread in newbie:
http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-15101.html

[WestCoast]

This post deserves a separate thread of its own on knowing the type of dance to choose and venue etc.

Agree with all of it. Learn the dance that gets you the girls you want in the area you live/visit.

Break dancing is no where near as sexual as partner dancing, remember that most girls in the US suck at dancing though so sometimes takes some coaching. Which is tough because you'll get some annoying ones who think they are amazing dancers because they can fist pump...

(08-06-2012 07:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

You'll get more mileage from learning partner dancing first. Partner dancing is the key to getting laid. But in most club situations, girls aren't going to want to dance with you unless you're extremely good looking or have good dance moves.

So first and foremost learn how to partner dance well, then step up your game with some break dancing.

I have no idea what's popular in Bosnia, but take the dance that's most popular there.

Generally speaking, you need to learn the dance that's popular with the younger girls. Where I live, Swing dancing gets a lot of teenage girls as well as early twenty hotties. Salsa gets girls between the age 25-35, and tango gets old wrinkly women between 45-65. That's why I learned swing.

[MrXY]

All I know is some basic steps i learned from books and youtube and i get told I am a good dancer.

i am not a good dancer in fact, but since most guys can't dance at all i sort of look good by default

And it is a huge advantage with women

[I'mWaitingForTheMan]

(08-13-2012 05:21 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

All I know is some basic steps i learned from books and youtube and i get told I am a good dancer.

i am not a good dancer in fact, but since most guys can't dance at all i sort of look good by default

And it is a huge advantage with women

This. Probably been covered before but most guys absolutely suck at dancing just like the majority don't know anything about game. Even being moderately able to move yourself will set you above the competition.

[XXL]

all i've been doing lately was just moving my hips on the dancefloor, smiling and oozing fun vibe and that's basically IT to get enough attention.

value in da club = fun.

it's kind of crazy, like when i sometimes hear some people saying they can't dance and stuff.. i can't dance myself at all. i just enjoy moving to the music very often doing something according to the lyrics. and when m.jackson come up i dance more like a stripper or something haha. it all comes down to having fun and approaching as soon as you get welcoming eye contact. that's it. as long as you clearly have a good time, dancing skills are irrelevant.

for less smooth dancefloor game it's key to hold frame like a motherfucker. yesterday i did that 'hand of god' move (reaching out hand palm up and pulling the girl in close to you if she grabs it), i got good EC, i reached out my hand and she just froze looking at me for good 5 seconds. i didn't flinch but inside i was like 'oh shit she's strong' and she finally gave in, cool little scene in the middle of the dancefloor.

so.. basic moves, comfort in your own skin, smile (HUGE), fun and that's all it takes

[RandalGraves]

My contribution:

If a girl is on the dance floor and is on her phone--take out your phone, pretend to be fiddling with it, and bump into her from the side. Do it in a playful-obnoxious manner with a smirk while sideways dance-rubbing on her.

Once she's looking at you, she'll probably put the phone down instinctively after a moment and you can proceed as normal.

I've done this a handful of times, it seems to work. As long as it's done in a playful manner--like the way you would be pretend-annoying to a little sister.

[Samseau]

(11-17-2012 11:24 AM)RandalGraves Wrote:  

My contribution:

If a girl is on the dance floor and is on her phone--take out your phone, pretend to be fiddling with it, and bump into her from the side. Do it in a playful-obnoxious manner with a smirk while sideways dance-rubbing on her.

Once she's looking at you, she'll probably put the phone down instinctively after a moment and you can proceed as normal.

I've done this a handful of times, it seems to work. As long as it's done in a playful manner--like the way you would be pretend-annoying to a little sister.

Interesting concept, this is far more suitable for younger girls (under 24). Then again, there's almost no reason go over 24 most of the time.


I would take it even a step further, by walking into her and moving your phone close to hers. Once she gets annoyed with you, say, "Whoa sorry didn't even notice you, was too busy paying attention to my phone."

[RandalGraves]

This guy's moves are pretty sick. I want to learn how to dance like that. When I'm out at the dance bars, I can get my enthusiasm up during a good song, but I don't know any good moves. I generally dance in the basic left-right two step but I'm going to try to adapt some moves here to change it up.

Any inspiration or advice from more advanced dancers?

[ComebackKid]

^great song

[soup]

My sense is that good dancing she shows that you have no tension in your body and that energy can move freely through you. So, you've got nothing to hide and are comfortable wielding power- her comfort and attraction buttons get pressed at the same time.

And, you are giving her a preview of what the sex will be like.

I try to make sure that all my movements, including my arms and hands are generated from my pelvis/lower abs; I want her to know that my sexual energy is so strong that it radiates from my crouch into my limbs. I try to stay limber, and let the rest of my body act solely as an amplification for my core.

[Samseau]

(01-05-2013 09:46 PM)soup Wrote:  

My sense is that good dancing she shows that you have no tension in your body and that energy can move freely through you. So, you've got nothing to hide and are comfortable wielding power- her comfort and attraction buttons get pressed at the same time.

And, you are giving her a preview of what the sex will be like.

I try to make sure that all my movements, including my arms and hands are generated from my pelvis/lower abs; I want her to know that my sexual energy is so strong that it radiates from my crouch into my limbs. I try to stay limber, and let the rest of my body act solely as an amplification for my core.

Pelvis and shoulders. Those are the most sexual parts of a man's body when dancing. Focus on those two when you want to get hot and heavy.

[kenny_powers]

Awesome thread. I'm going to see Avicii tonight in DC:

http://www.clubglow.com/

Supposed to be about 10,000 people there.

Any advice for a huge EDM party like this?

[Acute Angle]

And it may not be only women who are eyeing your prowess - men too may be observing your moves to detect a potential rival, according to this study.