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Female awareness of male incels

Female awareness of male incels

Mass male sexlessness leads to violent societies, whatever the race/religion, inviting millions of young men to Europe is disastrous in this regard. Give a man a nice girlfriend/wife and 99% of his frustrations/violent fantasies will dissipate quickly. Unless you're talking about genuine fanatics for a cause, or the mentally ill.

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H L Mencken
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Quote: (07-14-2018 03:14 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2018 03:04 PM)Repo Wrote:  

But if your an incel and aren't getting laid, you aren't a red pilled man. Part of the red pill is seeing and understanding women for what they are, and acting accordingly to get what you want. If someone isnt getting laid, then they aren't doing that.

Dislike of females behavior does not equal red pilled, the bar is higher.

This is an extremely interesting point you raise. So are you saying that being redpill automatically puts a guy into a position that he is always able to act so as to avoid the incel trap? Don't get me wrong, I believe Game is an invaluable toolkit and, further, can - and no doubt actually has - helped to save lives, but to claim that a redpill understanding of women automatically enables one to act in accordance with that knowledge to achieve sexual success seems way too optimistic a hope for many guys, especially those living in the Anglosphere, where even an unwillingness to act on that knowledge isn't the main factor standing in those guys' way. Unless you allow for expatriation to greener pastures as one means of "acting accordingly", that is, I'd have to disagree.

Yes. Getting laid is incredibly easy in the Anglosphere, maybe near the easiest it's ever been given how open women are nowadays. As a red pilled person, you figure things out and make them work, so of course expatraition is ok. Success in life is never achieved by everyone, so of course some who want it may never find it, but it's certainly achievable with the right mindset.

You could almost make a metaphor to Christianity. To know that someone truly believes and has an understanding, you will see it in their actions. Someone who sits in his basement who "understands what women want" but never actually improves himself, lifts, makes money, moves to a better location, works on his personality, etc etc, is a loser. Not a red pilled man. Someone who reads the bible and "believes" but never actually does any good in this world probably isnt a true Christian.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 03:33 PM)a beer is enough Wrote:  

A big reason for this incel problem is the fact that society is overflowing with men. In a lot of cities, single guys outnumber single women almost 2 to 1 when you take into consideration the prime ages for dating and hookups.

People will argue that you can simply "be alpha" and "have game" to get hot girls but when the same girl has been:

1. Flooded with approaches from tons of normal guys.

2. Has a ton of guys in her social circle making the move on her.

3. Gets flooded with messages on dating apps and online dating websites from a bunch of dudes.

Does not matter what their value is, her ego is inflated. Hot girls are not the only ones going through this, so are normal looking girls and occasionally even ugly women. The reason men in past generations did not have to deal with this sort of thing is because a lot of events happened in society that kept the gender ratio stable. Society was never meant to have this many men because it doesn't need a lot of men in the first place, it needs just enough men and an overflow of women. A lot of you will say I am making the same argument as feminists but all of us would prefer a club or bar where there are 10 women to every one man than the other way around.

At its very core, this is the issue, there are just too many guys around and not enough women.

It doesn't matter if there are a lot of guys with high market value or losers and simps, all it takes is a ton of guys to start being thirsty to where women get an inflated ego. If you had a reversal to where women outnumbered men, the game would start to shift in the favor of men and women would be the ones who would have to settle.

Although I agree that there's a moderate surplus of guys chasing women of fertile age, I believe that the problem is the leveraging effect that the sundry validation platforms which make up the collective social media space exert on this surplus, vastly multiplying its effect to a degree that has lead to a truly dystopic dating nightmare for many men, especially in the West and above all in the Anglosphere.

A woman who is in the coveted fertile age bracket of 18-30 and who is of a grade higher than butt ugly on the aesthetic totem pole walks the streets of the West today with a poise that even catwalk models of the past would scarcely have dared to affect, profoundly and self-consciously aware of how desirable she is amongst the increasing throngs of the thirsty masses of men in her midst. These caricatures of vanity mostly all sport a characteristic - and at the same time somewhat chilling - stiffly wooden countenance, surrounded by a cocky glow that announces to the world that Her Highness has arrived on the scene, as she wallows in the expected attention of her thirsty courtiers who she expects will pay their dutiful, deferential dues by freely gifting her the attention of their thirsty gaze that she now feels wholly entitled to wherever she sets foot. She is now the star of her own reality show, not just in the virtual realm, but increasingly in the real one, too.

As a guy over 40, I'm old enough to remember a time when even the hottest women didn't behave like the average Plain Jane of today and find the current dating increasingly environment for men resembles an episode of the Twilight Zone.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 04:39 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2018 03:14 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2018 03:04 PM)Repo Wrote:  

But if your an incel and aren't getting laid, you aren't a red pilled man. Part of the red pill is seeing and understanding women for what they are, and acting accordingly to get what you want. If someone isnt getting laid, then they aren't doing that.

Dislike of females behavior does not equal red pilled, the bar is higher.

This is an extremely interesting point you raise. So are you saying that being redpill automatically puts a guy into a position that he is always able to act so as to avoid the incel trap? Don't get me wrong, I believe Game is an invaluable toolkit and, further, can - and no doubt actually has - helped to save lives, but to claim that a redpill understanding of women automatically enables one to act in accordance with that knowledge to achieve sexual success seems way too optimistic a hope for many guys, especially those living in the Anglosphere, where even an unwillingness to act on that knowledge isn't the main factor standing in those guys' way. Unless you allow for expatriation to greener pastures as one means of "acting accordingly", that is, I'd have to disagree.

Yes. Getting laid is incredibly easy in the Anglosphere, maybe near the easiest it's ever been given how open women are nowadays. As a red pilled person, you figure things out and make them work, so of course expatraition is ok. Success in life is never achieved by everyone, so of course some who want it may never find it, but it's certainly achievable with the right mindset.

You could almost make a metaphor to Christianity. To know that someone truly believes and has an understanding, you will see it in their actions. Someone who sits in his basement who "understands what women want" but never actually improves himself, lifts, makes money, moves to a better location, works on his personality, etc etc, is a loser. Not a red pilled man. Someone who reads the bible and "believes" but never actually does any good in this world probably isnt a true Christian.

Yes, it is for the small minority of men that unfettered hypergamy favours, i.e. the 6'4, muscular, popular guys. But what about the rest? What's the deal like for them? Can you also explain the fact that there are a record percentage of men who either can't get laid or who can't get laid more than once or so every six months despite doing everything you're arguing for: lifting, making more money, et.c., dressing well, spitting game, et.c.? Don't forget, even the very pinnacle of daygamers, such as Krauser, have an approach-to-lay ratio of around 2% and even that figure tends to apply non-Anglo women who are by definition easier lays. For your average Joe Blow in downtown Toronto, doing this shit isn't cutting it any longer, unless he's pre-selected by being in the top 5% in terms of looks, money, status, that is.

The problem isn't the guys who don't lift, dress well, make money, run good Game, et.c. It's that the bar to be considered fuckable by a woman has become impossible to vault for an unprecedentedly large number of postwar men in the last decade as a result of the ego-swelling effect on its female users of the validation box that has now morphed into their new prosthetic limb, aka "The Smartphone".

Saying that all a guy needs to do to be fuckable is to be in the top x%, whilst that x% tends ever further towards zero, doesn't help anybody, least of all the men who can't get laid in the current environment. What is required is also a holistic understanding of and action about the overall dynamics of the SMP which are leading to an extreme arms race amongst men to get buff, make bank, dress like a boss, merely in order to be in the race at all.

Ultimately, in my considered view, it is the removal of all constraints on female mate choice (think here: campaigns against slut shaming), the contraceptive pill, social media vastly leveraging female mating options, misandric laws, Western economic system favouring women, promotion of polyamory (translation: cuckoldry), et.c. that we need to address if we're to ultimately get a grip on this and to begin to reverse it. But, more realistically, a swing of the pendulum in the direction of male interests will only come about as a result of an extremely dislocating social event on a western-wide scale, such as a financial crash, in which the consequences of allowing women unfettered power without any responsibility in how they exercise it will be finally be reversed.
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That's nonsense, most just aren't fucking the types of women they want. I've yet to meet a single person who is doing those things and isnt getting laid, I only see them on the internet. The vast majority of people get laid through social circles, so comparing a cold approach ratio is very disingenuous. And I think you just made the part in bold up off the top of your head. Please, post the statistics and studies that prove guys are doing this and not getting results. I'm not responding for you because it sounds like your mind is made up, but maybe someone will read it who needs positive reinforcement that shit isnt all doom and gloom.

Can you also explain the fact that there are a record percentage of men who either can't get laid or who can't get laid more than once or so every six months despite doing everything you're arguing for: lifting, making more money, et.c., dressing well, spitting game, et.c.?
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Quote: (07-14-2018 05:25 PM)Repo Wrote:  

That's nonsense, most just aren't fucking the types of women they want. I've yet to meet a single person who is doing those things and isnt getting laid, I only see them on the internet. The vast majority of people get laid through social circles, so comparing a cold approach ratio is very disingenuous. And I think you just made the part in bold up off the top of your head. Please, post the statistics and studies that prove guys are doing this and not getting results. I'm not responding for you because it sounds like your mind is made up, but maybe someone will read it who needs positive reinforcement that shit isnt all doom and gloom.

Can you also explain the fact that there are a record percentage of men who either can't get laid or who can't get laid more than once or so every six months despite doing everything you're arguing for: lifting, making more money, et.c., dressing well, spitting game, et.c.?

There are numerous academic papers on this topic which show a marked divergence in the amount of sex men are having relative to the amount women are having from around the year 2010; the same year, curiously, that social media platforms really started to take off. I posted a link to such an article a short time ago on one of my own posts to a thread on here: https://fabiusmaximus.com/2018/05/12/ris...ating-men/

The evidence afforded to me by my own senses, in addition my memory, is more than enough to confirm what I'm saying. Go out onto the streets on any town or city in the Anglosphere and look at the pairing of men and women. In particular, focus on all of the guys who are consistently never in the company of a woman, assuming that you live in an area where you regularly see many of the same faces. I used to live in such an area in the UK before moving back to Germany and the big city. It was abundantly clear to me that many women would rather go for months these days being celebate and single than to date a guy who was anything less than an apex male, such that they would rather have a ONS with him and bring up their bastard brood on their own if need be. These are observations here without number, made repeatedly over a time span of many years, rather than mere assertions as you allege. I ask anybody here reading this to reflect on his own experiences and those of men around him to come to his own considered judgement, before engaging in polemics. I'm not here, in any case, to persuade anybody of what I'm saying. I believe the facts relevant to this topic, if one is willing to search them out and then acknowledge them, speak volubly for themselves. It's just that uncovering these facts is akin to upturning stones which are covering some really quite dimly-lit and dingy undergrowth. Aside from it being a taboo subject, it's also, as you rightly acknowledge, a depressing landscape to explore.

Furthermore, I also base what I say on countless different sources, such as from personal conversations with men that I encounter in various contexts who, despite having their shit together and being perfectly decent-looking, can't find a girlfriend for love nor money. It's a consistent picture that emerges: a feast for a small, pre-selected group of guys that amount to not more than 10% of the male population and a famine for the rest, who are fighting for scraps that fall from the buff man's table and can count themselves lucky if they can temporarily lock down a capricious and domineering shrew of a girlfriend that will grace them with LTR sex in exchange for good behaviour.

Yes, it's gloomy, but you can only address a problem adequately by first acknowledging that it exists and to the full extent that it exists. Putting your head in the sand might work in the short term, but it doesn't cut it for the long haul. So don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message.
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So basically, you wrote a huge post explaining that I was right in that you dont have any actual sources (that link does not support the full bolded statement), and are basing it on your own observations and what people tell you. I dont deny that many guys aren't having luck with women, I am denying that these men are using the right behaviours. I go out all the time and there are couples everywhere, and the loner men almost always have bad style, aren't in shape, and are socially awkward.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 06:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  

So basically, you wrote a huge post explaining that I was right in that you dont have any actual sources (that link does not support the full bolded statement), and are basing it on your own observations and what people tell you. I dont deny that many guys aren't having luck with women, I am denying that these men are using the right behaviours. I go out all the time and there are couples everywhere, and the loner men almost always have bad style, aren't in shape, and are socially awkward.

Countless such academic studies exist, the abstracts to which can be found by means of a simple Google search. For example, there are many studies from the animal kingdom which document how, across the vast majority of the animal species, the "alpha" male of the species will dominate access to the females of that same species, thus locking out from the sexual market place a large percentage of the other males. Traditional monogamous relationships, especially the institution of marriage and other long-standing social constraints on women, were designed in large part to avoid the dire social consequences which would accrue from a winner-takes-all dating market amongst humans to which we are steadily but surely reverting. In so doing we are slowly having to re-learn the wisdom of our elders - across many cultures - but this time, the hard way.
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And yet you posted one which didn't make your point at all. Anyway, I'm on my way to pick up a much younger chick, which has gotten increasingly easier as I've gotten older. Good chat.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 06:47 PM)Repo Wrote:  

And yet you posted one which didn't make your point at all. Anyway, I'm on my way to pick up a much younger chick, which has gotten increasingly easier as I've gotten older. Good chat.

It shows, assuming one believes the source of the data and the way it's been collected, that the number of men in the 22-35 cohort who haven't had sex over the last 12 months has increased from around 6% to 14% in the period 2008-2016. If this isn't one source of evidence for my thesis that in the last decade or so the number of guys shut out of the sexual market place has significantly increased, then please tell me what would count as evidence for you?

To argue that it's because guys have just let themselves go and become slobs gets the causation the wrong way around, in my view. A lot of guys have let themselves go precisely because they have found themselves unable to compete as the quicksands of the sexual market place have shifted against them and so from a certain point decided to go full basement dweller mode. If there's no pussy incentive on the table because most of the rewards now go to a small percentage of sexually active men, then it's a logical consequence of this that a lot of guys locked out of the market will start to let themselves go and just focus on maintaining themselves in a minimal state.

It's an interesting debate, I agree, since you focus on the role of the individual Game practitioner as if he exists atomistically in a vacuum and I'm more concerned with the macro-framework which largely determines the parameters that the Game practitioner has to operate in. We all know that a young, 6'4" muscular athelete running daygame on university campus Plain Janes is going to experience a radically different response rate to a 5'6" Indian chode chasing Heidi Klum-lookalikes, even when the latter has a much more refined Game toolkit at his disposal. If only for the reason that, for many women, especially those in the Anglosphere, whether to give a guy the time of time of day in an initial random encounter is first determined by his physical level of attractiveness to her and so a lot of guys will get blown out simply before they've had chance to demonstrate worth through other Game-mediated means. I've witnessed this myself on the street when running Game with other guys, by the way, enough times to know what I'm talking about. It sounds like Game denialism on my part, but it isn't, since I've personally gotten lays from daygame in the recent past - unfortunately not nearly as many as I'd have liked - and quite a few makeouts, dates, e.tc., some near lays, et.c. from much more attractive - and younger - women that I could have pulled online, so I know what is in principle possible. My concern is more that we're reaching an inflexion point in the West where relocation may be a more sensible move for many guys rather than trying to grind it out running daygame for ever-diminishing returns as female hypergamy surges to feral proportions, such that only the highest tier of guys looks- or game-wise are now able to hack it. There may well come a point - and quite soon - when simply exhorting guys to be in the top 5% ... 4% ... 1% just won't cut it, since it becomes too narrow and therefore unrealistic a goal to reach. Irrational optimism will, no doubt, surely get a guy laid much more often than any form of rationally-informed realism, my own variety included, but sooner or later the arid reality of sexlessness for those not able to make the grade will catch up with them and they'll need to find alternative solutions to their predicament. In my case, for example, it was moving from the UK to Germany, and running daygame there in a major city, which improved my situation. Not massively, since daygaming in a northern German city such as Hamburg is hardly easy mode, but it still a much more realistic proposition than grinding it out on the streets of Newcastle-upon-Tyne and not even getting dates, let alone bangs.

Incidentally, do you believe that if every guy who couldn't get laid developed Game to a sufficient extent, in addition to making reasonable improvements to his dress style, personality, et.c., that they would all manage to get laid, secure a LTR, et.c.? Or, as I suspect, would the bar just get pushed higher in terms of the minimum level of personal fitness, presentation, Game, that women then require before dropping the drawers? Game can only work because it's a hack to the system that the majority of men still don't practice, but it seems that being both Game savvy and implementing its core principles is becoming a bare minimum requirement today for a guy to stand a chance of getting laid.
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Are you friends with Jean Valjean by chance?

Typing up a manifesto filled with 5 dollar words doesnt make what you have a thesis. The reason I said your study doesnt support your argument was never addressed in that diatribe and you acted as if I never explained it. Maybe if truth was on your side you would be able to explain things more plainly, and not go into a million misleading tangents.

Anyway, I dont foresee anything productive coming out of this thread so I'm done.
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The only way out of this mess is to reverse the obesity epidemic. Anything else is just bailing out a sinking ship. The experience you feel in the dating market is determined on the margin and if 60% of females are above their optimal weight your experience will be terrible.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 06:41 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Countless such academic studies exist, the abstracts to which can be found by means of a simple Google search.

You know, it pisses me off when someone, when asked for evidence, says "Google it yourself." This line indicates that the person is unable to support their assertions.

However, there are papers showing it's harder for smart geeks to get laid. I will post a link to Scott Alexander's article on the subject, where he does link to peer reviewed research: That said, getting laid is not some unattainable achievement. I was once an Omega. Even before online gaming guides existed, I figured out that leaving the country and living abroad was the way to go from being an Omega to being a family man; it worked. Sure, it probably is tougher than it was 50 years ago, but success is still out there for people who stop feeling sorry for themselves, stop blaming "western culture" for the fact they jerk off to porn instead of getting pussy, and start making the effort to get women in their life.

I really don't want to hear any more "black pill" bullshit on this forum. Take it to wherever incels hang out these days; people on this forum actually get laid. Get off your ass and do something about yourself. Stop moaning on the internet.
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Guys that cant get laid are fishing in the wrong pond or are not fishing at all.
Trashy bars where you just might get shot or stabbed are the best pussy fishing of all. Be careful and jet at the slightest sign of trouble.
Low standards are a plus!
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Quote: (07-15-2018 01:05 PM)rpg Wrote:  

Guys that cant get laid are fishing in the wrong pond or are not fishing at all.
Trashy bars where you just might get shot or stabbed are the best pussy fishing of all. Be careful and jet at the slightest sign of trouble.
Low standards are a plus!

Whether or not men can get laid is not a meaningful metric. It's like asking if a man can find a job or not.

In a healthy economy, men can support families on their wages, and they have access to plenty of decent career opportunities at a given time.

Men may still get work in an unhealthy economy, but it will be artificially low wages at a dead end job.

Similarly, the average man can expend lots of time, money, and effort today to bang an undesirable woman. As you say, he can attend a trashy bar, where he might get stabbed, and then fuck a fat chick. Wonderful.

This is simply not comparable to a healthy or normal society, where women sleep with men in the confines of monogamous dating or marriage relationships, which results in a much more even distribution of women amongst men. A celebrity might get a few mistresses, and a really gross guy might never get a wife, but the difference between being in the 50th percentile and being in the 90th percentile as a guy is just the quality of the one woman you are with.

Today, that difference is literally inceldom vs. sleeping with 20 different women per year. I was in the latter category before meeting my GF, and I did enjoy banging all those girls, but ultimately it is meaningless and degenerate. It will also eventually destroy society, since the majority of men have zero stake in it's future without children to occupy it.
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Quote: (07-26-2015 03:36 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

One thing I've often wondered about, though, is how aware women are of the incel issue amongst men. Given how many dating options even the slim plain Janes and the frumps have at their disposal, do they ever stop to reflect what the implications of this are for men, i.e. that there is a sizeable surplus of guys left on the dating market unable to find even a fatty to date? As I'm not privy to the conversation of women, I really can only speculate here, although it would be fascinating to know what - if anything - women think on this matter. Has anybody on here ever been a fly on the wall overhearing females discussing this issue?

Um... the only time women notice incel boys and men is when they show up to school with an AR-15 and start killing people.

I've noticed that women don't actually have a lot of sympathy for these guys either. They most likely believe these guys aren't "being themselves" enough to land a woman.
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Women don't have a lot of sympathy for guys in general.

Part of the red-pill for me is learning how self-centered and mercenary the fairer sex really is.
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Quote: (07-14-2018 04:39 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Getting laid is incredibly easy in the Anglosphere, maybe near the easiest it's ever been given how open women are nowadays.

I find this interesting because my experience here has been totally the opposite. Could be me, I don't know. But I doubt it. I'm social, fit, tall, decent-looking etc. And yet I find myself toiling away on Tinder and day game trying to bang a 6 or a 7.

Not saying you're wrong, maybe it's just something I'm doing wrong or I'm in a part of the country that isn't hospitable to getting laid regularly (New England).
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Women don't have a lot of sympathy for guys in general.

Their evolutionary imperative is to select against weakness so this makes sense in that light.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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Quote: (07-17-2018 09:22 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

Quote: (07-26-2015 03:36 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

One thing I've often wondered about, though, is how aware women are of the incel issue amongst men. Given how many dating options even the slim plain Janes and the frumps have at their disposal, do they ever stop to reflect what the implications of this are for men, i.e. that there is a sizeable surplus of guys left on the dating market unable to find even a fatty to date? As I'm not privy to the conversation of women, I really can only speculate here, although it would be fascinating to know what - if anything - women think on this matter. Has anybody on here ever been a fly on the wall overhearing females discussing this issue?

Um... the only time women notice incel boys and men is when they show up to school with an AR-15 and start killing people.

I've noticed that women don't actually have a lot of sympathy for these guys either. They most likely believe these guys aren't "being themselves" enough to land a woman.

Actually, for those guys, it is a very effective way of improving their odds of reproductive sex. Bad boy, criminals, and particularly murderers really turn women on. At least some of them.
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Show me a man who cant get laid and I will show you a man who wont lower his standards.

Don't debate me.
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Absolutely, I think every guy that has an income, and is in decent shape both physically and mentally can get laid.

Incels are incels, I believe, because of emotional trauma. They probably hate their mother, who did a horrible job of raising them.

Single motherhood is the root cause of all this.
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Quote: (07-17-2018 11:38 AM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2018 04:39 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Getting laid is incredibly easy in the Anglosphere, maybe near the easiest it's ever been given how open women are nowadays.

I find this interesting because my experience here has been totally the opposite. Could be me, I don't know. But I doubt it. I'm social, fit, tall, decent-looking etc. And yet I find myself toiling away on Tinder and day game trying to bang a 6 or a 7.

Not saying you're wrong, maybe it's just something I'm doing wrong or I'm in a part of the country that isn't hospitable to getting laid regularly (New England).
NEW ENGLAND SUCKS. Get out of there. Married guys dont get laid in New England.
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Quote: (07-17-2018 02:10 PM)BadKing Wrote:  

Absolutely, I think every guy that has an income, and is in decent shape both physically and mentally can get laid.

Incels are incels, I believe, because of emotional trauma. They probably hate their mother, who did a horrible job of raising them.

Single motherhood is the root cause of all this.

OK, let's run with your claim for a moment. How you then explain the record amount of thirst in the West, especially in the Anglosphere, if it's as easy as you claim? I can still remember a time when guys who weren't in decent shape and who had shitty jobs could still get laid and even with OK-looking women.

And let's not forget, it's not just your lardarses and gym-shy soyboys who are struggling these days, but also guys with their shit together and who are in shape. The amount of slack available for guys before they get blown out by bitches today has noticeably decreased since the advent of social media and the attendant surfeit of attention which it's brought in its wake.
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Quote: (07-18-2018 11:38 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

How you then explain the record amount of thirst in the West, especially in the Anglosphere, if it's as easy as you claim? I can still remember a time when guys who weren't in decent shape and who had shitty jobs could still get laid and even with OK-looking women.

As I tried to point out before, inceldom does NOT depend on whether someone can "get laid", like it's a yes/no binary thing.

Inceldom depends on how evenly women are distributed among men.

Replace "wealth" with women, and this graph will help you understand the problem, perhaps. The bottom 90% of men have no access to real "wealth", and the game is hopelessly rigged against them.

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