[Captainstabbin]

(07-16-2015 04:19 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

That flag will cause some blood again. There's poking a regular hornets nest ya know like John Q Public and there's poking the other hornet nest full of rednecks with guns and shit.

It's going to go down.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region...-from-home

That's the whole point. They push the issue until there's blowback, then use that blowback as an excuse for more government intervention, more laws, more power in the hands of politicians. Standard thesis, antithesis, synthesis...

Also,

[Ziltoid]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ident.html

Quote:

Black Mississippi Confederate flag supporter dies after rally when 'car full of jeering African American men forced him off the road'

• Anthony Hervey, 49, was chased by a group of men while driving home from an Alabama flag rally when the car flipped
• The passenger, Arlene Barnum, said they were pursued by a group of young black men while en route back to Mississippi on Sunday
• Barnum posted to Facebook while still pinned inside the vehicle: 'HELP.. They after us. My vehicle inside down'
  

A black Mississippi man who often dressed in Confederate regalia to support the state flag has died in a one-car accident.

The Highway Patrol says 49-year-old Anthony Hervey was killed Sunday when the 2005 Ford Explorer he was driving left the roadway and overturned on Mississippi Highway 6 in Lafayette County.

A passenger in Harvey's car, Arlene Barnum, tells The Associated Press that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry.


Dead: Anthony Hervey, a Mississippi man well-known in his community for his support of the Confederate flag, has died after a car crash before which a surviving passenger says they were chased by a car load of heckling young black men


Survivor: Arlene Barnum (left), Hervey's (right) fellow black supporter of the Confederate flag, said they were chased following a rally in Alabama while en route home to Mississippi


'It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful,' Barnum said


Barnum said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.

'It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful,' she said.

She said she gave that account to a Mississippi state trooper when she was taken to a hospital after the accident.

In the moments following the crash, Barnum was apparently able to post to Facebook, where she wrote:

'HELP.. They after us. My vehicle inside down.'

Shortly after, Barnum posted again:

'Anthony Hervy pinned in ., gas leaking.'



Pinned inside: Barnun was able to post to Facebook while still inside the car prior to her rescue


Barnum told the McAlester News-Capital that she wasn't particularly well acquainted with her fellow black Confederate flag supporter, but that she'd let him drive her truck.

'I didn't know him, really,' Barham said of Hervey. 'I gave him a ride to the rally.'



The Mississippi Highway Patrol did not immediately respond to an Associated Press query asking if officials are investigating Barnum's account.

Mississippi Highway Patrol spokesman Johnny Poulos said Monday in a written statement that no other details of the accident will be available until accident reconstruction experts have had a chance to take a look at the evidence.

Barnum said she and Hervey had been returning home Sunday from Birmingham, Alabama, where they attended a Saturday rally to save the Linn Park Confederate Monument. City leaders there recently voted to remove the memorial from the park.

Barnum said they were in her SUV, which was not displaying any Confederate flags or stickers.


Back to Mississippi: Barnum and Hervey had been at an Alabama rally held in support of the Confederate flag over the weekend. The accident occurred while they were en route back to Mississippi, where the acquaintances called separate towns home


She said she had no idea whether they had been followed from Birmingham.

Hervey, of Oxford, has drawn attention over the years for opposing efforts to change the flag. He said he dressed in Rebel soldier garb to honor blacks who served with the Confederacy during the Civil War. He was often seen often wearing the Confederate uniform and waving a Rebel flag on the Oxford square.

In an interview with the Associated Press in 2001 after a new state flag design was defeated, Hervey said Mississippians' support of the flag with a Confederate battle emblem in the corner is akin to 'standing up for home.'

'This is not racism. This is my heritage,' Hervey said.

Hervey was also the author of a book titled Why I Wave the Confederate Flag, Written by a Black Man.

The book's description runs, in part:

'What makes this book dangerous is its raw honesty. Mr. Hervey lifts the veil of Black decadence at the same time he exposes the lies and political correctness of modern day America.'

'WHY I WAVE THE CONFEDERATE FLAG'



Anthony Hervey was well known as his town's vocal and visible black supporter of the Confederate Flag.

In 2006, the Oxford man even published a book explaining his reasoning, the description for which reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom if speech, or of the press;or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

This book is about truth and passion.

What makes this book dangerous is its raw honesty. Mr. Hervey lifts the veil of Black decadence at the same time he exposes the lies and political correctness of modern day America. Mr. Hervey said 'I show that the Civil War was not fought over slavery and that the demise of my race in America is not of the White man, but rather of our own making. In this book I show how Blacks in America ran away from physical bondage to one far worse-- mental bondage.'

A percentage of the proceeds of the sale of this book will aid Mr. Hervey in his legal defense for his false imprisonment and a percentage will be donated to the preservation of Southern Heritage. A financial contribution will be given to the victims of Katrina both Black and White.


In an interview with the Associated Press in 2001 after a new state flag design was defeated, Hervey said Mississippians' support of the flag with a Confederate battle emblem in the corner is akin to 'standing up for home'


Hervey said he dressed in Rebel soldier garb to honor blacks who served with the Confederacy during the Civil War. He was often seen often wearing the Confederate uniform and waving a Rebel flag on the Oxford square.

#blacklivesmatter...?

[YoungArt]

(07-16-2015 03:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

In Oklahoma, protesters greet Obama with Confederate flags

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/in...z3g5dmGHwS


Damn, people are pissed about that flag!

This weekend I was working as a security guard at a big rock festival in north Germany. Some people had big confederate flags hanging at their camping spots. Eventually people would come and complain about them. We had to take them down, and all this here in Germany WTF?

[Sourcecode]

Cool, so one backwards country black guy likes to fly the Confederate flag.

He doesn't justify any argument.
It's the same as the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" rationale.

[JohnyBoi95]

Well that's unfortunate, but that his book seems very interesting though.

I'm very interested in the rationale of black people that wave the confederate flag.

Anyone have a link?

[JacksonRev]

(07-21-2015 05:10 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Cool, so one backwards country black guy likes to fly the Confederate flag.

He doesn't justify any argument.
It's the same as the "I'm not racist, I have a black friend" rationale.

I would say more than half the southern country guys I know who happen to be black fly the Confederate flag.

As one guy who's from central Florida that flies it and has gone to a couple shit hole countries with me put it:

"Man, fuck those people! I'm from the South. I like the South. I grew up with the Confederate flag. But these motherfuckers say I can't fly it 'cause I'm black? What the fuck else can't I do 'cause I'm black? Fish? White people fish. Can I do that, too? Fucking assholes."

[trian1]

(07-21-2015 05:19 AM)JohnyBoi95 Wrote:  

Well that's unfortunate, but that his book seems very interesting though.

I'm very interested in the rationale of black people that wave the confederate flag.

Anyone have a link?

I would guess that one reason was that it was undeniably a symbol of the South before it was a symbol for segregationists. Thus why someone like Sophia Loren wold wave it to celebrate her (Italian) Southerness:
http://img.corbisimages.com/stock-photo/...erate-flag

Here is one recent black student's rationale for why he waves it, but supported it being taken down at the SC memorial. He caused a stir a few years ago for hanging it in his window on campus:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteveryt...rate-flag/

In addition, H.K. Edgerton is a former head of the Asheville, NC NAACP who is a member of the SCV, and a well-known activist:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._K._Edgerton

[TheWastelander]

The people who are offended by the flag need to get over it and stop acting like little babies. People read what they want into the flag and I'll be goddamned if I let anyone dictate what it means to me.

[samsamsam]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-...e-charges/

Dylann Roof, accused Charleston church gunman, indicted on federal hate crime charges

Partial Quote.

Quote:

The man accused of gunning down nine people inside a historic African American church in Charleston, S.C., last month has been indicted on federal hate crime charges, Attorney General Loretta Lynch announced Wednesday.

He faces dozens of federal charges, including some that carry a potential death sentence, though Lynch said the federal government has made no decision yet on whether to pursue the death penalty.

Dylann Roof, 21, had already been charged with nine counts of murder and three counts of attempted murder for the massacre inside the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church.

[Bobb Johnson]

The Charleston shooter Dylann Roof has been given the death penalty.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime-...0M0t6TNKJ/

[Cr33pin]

(01-11-2017 06:51 AM)Bobb Johnson Wrote:  

The Charleston shooter Dylann Roof has been given the death penalty.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime-...0M0t6TNKJ/

He absolutely deserves it... as does anyone of any race who kills 9 innocent people for any reason.

[Dr. Howard]

(01-11-2017 07:49 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:51 AM)Bobb Johnson Wrote:  

The Charleston shooter Dylann Roof has been given the death penalty.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime-...0M0t6TNKJ/

He absolutely deserves it... as does anyone of any race who kills 9 innocent people for any reason.

also, its the best possible sentence. Protesters can in no way take to the streets to riot against this outcome.

[Buck Wild]

(01-11-2017 07:57 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:49 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:51 AM)Bobb Johnson Wrote:  

The Charleston shooter Dylann Roof has been given the death penalty.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime-...0M0t6TNKJ/

He absolutely deserves it... as does anyone of any race who kills 9 innocent people for any reason.

also, its the best possible sentence. Protesters can in no way take to the streets to riot against this outcome.

Really? This is the main reason why "its the best possible sentence"?

[Dr. Howard]

(01-11-2017 08:49 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:57 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 07:49 AM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

(01-11-2017 06:51 AM)Bobb Johnson Wrote:  

The Charleston shooter Dylann Roof has been given the death penalty.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/crime-...0M0t6TNKJ/

He absolutely deserves it... as does anyone of any race who kills 9 innocent people for any reason.

also, its the best possible sentence. Protesters can in no way take to the streets to riot against this outcome.

Really? This is the main reason why "its the best possible sentence"?

Yes. Roof didn't offer any apologies and seemed to be accepting of the death penalty. The death penalty for killing 9 people seems appropriate regardless of racial or political motivation.

If he were tried in a non death penalty state, Black Lives Matter would be out there protesting that he should be put to death and then we'd have jailhouse interviews and other Anders Brevik type stuff by the media whenever they want to try to inflame racial tensions again.

A death sentence means that Roof gets to be the martyr he wanted to be and the media gets no more highlight reels beyond that picture of him with the confederate flag.

[Atlanta Man]

I am against the death penalty, even for Dylann Roof. The conviction in this case was far more important than the sentance.

[Cattle Rustler]

(01-11-2017 11:30 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I am against the death penalty, even for Dylann Roof. The conviction in this case was far more important than the sentance.

I support it, all the way.

[Space Cowboy]

Just a shame we can't drag him out back and shoot him. Wonder how much these people are costing the tax payer...

[Sumanguru]

I don't like the death penalty because I don't want the state to have the power of life and death over any human being.

However, Roof is a murderous sucmbag and I won't mourn his death.

[Buck Wild]

(01-11-2017 12:01 PM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

I don't like the death penalty because I don't want the state to have the power of life and death over any human being.

However, Roof is a murderous sucmbag and I won't mourn his death.

I generally agree with this---if the state has the power to take your life, then it also has the power to take anything else from you as well.

That said, I also won't be shedding any tears over this man's death.

[kaotic]

A simple .45 to the back of the head is the fast track and saves tax payer money.

It's better to have a trial/justice and then sentenced to death, instead of a street justice lynching by the victims families don't you think ?

Fun fact:

The pastor/church he shot up - is against the death penalty.