Quote: (05-17-2015 11:06 AM)drasticallyspeaking Wrote:
Agreed that obesity correlates with thirstiness and makes getting quality a much more involved affair.
Let's say you have a foreign city where the people can be hard to relate to and are far less likely to make you laugh, but the obesity rate in that city is minuscule compared to where you're from, and getting laid or a relationship is way way easier. Quality is higher.
Then you have your home city where the obesity rate is high and getting quality women is way more of an endeavour, but you have a higher ability to sack away savings / build your investments, and it's easier to make good friends who you can relate to and have a normal social life. You can speak the language fluently.
That's the choice I think most guys on this forum are debating I think. Do I make decisions based off valuing the pussy in my life, or do I value all the rest.
But I'm starting to think I need to find option 3: a city in the west where local demographics in terms of obesity and gender ratio are better than the usual Man Francisco/Man Jose. Where I can get paid well and have good friendships, and the obesity rate is lower than the national average.
So that's where my thoughts and exploration is moving.
From my experiences living in the US, there are areas near university campuses where I can attain the quality I'm looking for and the average girl walking around is pretty much just as fit as the average girl in Poland, and I can still have a social life where I can to a house party and not feel isolated because I don't completely understand the language/culture/humour. Unfortunately those college towns tend to not have quite as high salaries as NYC/SF.
I will also say, now that I've lived in both college towns in the US and now one uni-town in the UK for more than a month, I'm starting to think US college towns are just much better quality and ease than UK ones. I think you guys in the UK might just be getting fucked worse than we are. It seems like most uni-girls here put forth 0 effort in their looks and are naturally kinda ugly, whereas for me at least the natural genetic makeup of American sorostitutes is a bit prettier (especially in the midwest where the local people are descendants of German immigrants), and I think they put forth more effort into their looks. Going to yoga classes, wearing makeup, etc. But mainly I think UK girls just have shit bodies (both genetically and from a fitness standpoint) compared to American college girls who try, and there are so few quality girls that their egos are all inflated. So anyone in the UK who wants to say in the anglosphere, get the fuck over to America in a place with lots of college age girls. Anyone in the US who wants to say in the anglosphere, stay the fuck away from the UK unless you have a posh accent fetish.
And I think that's enough ranting in a thread about Polish women...
That's my dilemma too. On the one hand, I don't want to sacrifice my standard of living and the social circle that I value here in the UK. But on the other hand, I know that I'm not going to find a girlfriend or any vaguely attractive woman to bang if I stay where I am, even though I'm gaming women wherever I can - through both day and social circle game. I've been vacillating between, "Should I stay or should I go?" for some time now and it's really fucking with my head. The - probably irrationally - optimistic side of me has always won out up to now, asserting that sooner or later I'll strike gold and defy the odds, but that gold has turned out to be just another fucking pot at the end of the proverbial rainbow. I think I've been deluding myself, understandably perhaps given how depressing the reality is, into thinking that the fact that 50% of the women being obese and thus a non-starter as far as bangable options, won't have disastrous effects on my attempts to pull one of the remaining slim women in the dating pool. Sooner or later reality will force you to recognize it for what it is, however much you've been pissing against the wind and wanting to see it otherwise. I think I've finally reached that point over the last few weeks.
As for finding a city in the US (or UK, for that matter) where the obesity rate is much lower than the national average, well, good luck with that one. For me, it's something I've thought about and haven't really managed to discern any particular city in the UK where the obesity rate for women is significantly lower than the national average, with the exception of London, perhaps. Unfortunately, I don't earn anywhere near enough money to afford to relocate there, so I'm stuck here for the moment whether I like it or not. The same probably also applies to the Home Counties, such as Surrey, Kent, Hampshire, et.c., along with the financial constraints.
The strange thing is, even a year ago I was able to find slim women around age or a few years younger to date. Hell, I even picked up three phone numbers and was dating one of them in a single week last summer. I've been lifting weights and am in a better state, physically, yet my ROI seems to be going down with every passing month that I stay here. I've also been more confident and approaching more than I did a year ago, yet, absolutely no joy. I get approached quite a bit and complemented on my appearance from post-menopausal women (please don't laugh) yet slim women of fertile age, although I do get occasional bites of interest, seem to be indifferent to my approaches. Hell, even when I was a scrawny student with absolutely no game awareness and would barely dare talk to a girl, I was doing shitloads better than now. I feel like I'm an extra in the Twilight Zone, so bizarre is the dating dynamics I see around me - warpigs matched up with slim, tall and athletic guys or outrageously fat women I meet who nearly always have partners, irrespective of how butt ugly they are. It didn't used to be this way in the UK; it seems that there is now no bottom to how unattractive a woman can be and yet still find a partner, such is the ocean of thirst that surrounds us. It's nothing short of dystopic.