[chochemonger1]

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

I for one think the death of Poland is greatly overstated. Perhaps it's just lower expectations on my part, or the child-like wonder with which I approach a civilization where attractive girls just over half my age will talk to me like I'm a normal human being. But it's still working for me.

Basically, I appreciate that I can game at about 5% efficiency and still have a normal dating life.

Fair enough statement. But there are so many countries out there, which still have higher efficiency and quality for an over 35 gentleman, such as you and I. I am not against Poland, I am just for something better.

[EU Explorer]

(05-18-2015 04:35 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

I for one think the death of Poland is greatly overstated. Perhaps it's just lower expectations on my part, or the child-like wonder with which I approach a civilization where attractive girls just over half my age will talk to me like I'm a normal human being. But it's still working for me.

Basically, I appreciate that I can game at about 5% efficiency and still have a normal dating life.

Fair enough statement. But there are so many countries out there, which still have higher efficiency and quality for an over 35 gentleman, such as you and I. I am not against Poland, I am just for something better.

Chochemonger...which other countries are you current preference out of interest?...as a Brit I find I get on well with Lithuanians as they have a similar sense of humour but its way too cold in the winter there for me! (and also Poland)

[chochemonger1]

(05-19-2015 10:14 AM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:35 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

I for one think the death of Poland is greatly overstated. Perhaps it's just lower expectations on my part, or the child-like wonder with which I approach a civilization where attractive girls just over half my age will talk to me like I'm a normal human being. But it's still working for me.

Basically, I appreciate that I can game at about 5% efficiency and still have a normal dating life.

Fair enough statement. But there are so many countries out there, which still have higher efficiency and quality for an over 35 gentleman, such as you and I. I am not against Poland, I am just for something better.

Chochemonger...which other countries are you current preference out of interest?...as a Brit I find I get on well with Lithuanians as they have a similar sense of humour but its way too cold in the winter there for me! (and also Poland)

Explorer, I think so much of these questions, about where to pick a country are age dependent. As a young man Poland and Lithuania seem perfectly fine. As an over 35 guy, it becomes a bit more complicated. That is why I am picking Ukraine over Serbia, for example. Or why always Colombia over Peru. Or even the Phils over Indonesia. As a younger man my choices would be different.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(05-19-2015 12:09 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-19-2015 10:14 AM)EU Explorer Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:35 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

I for one think the death of Poland is greatly overstated. Perhaps it's just lower expectations on my part, or the child-like wonder with which I approach a civilization where attractive girls just over half my age will talk to me like I'm a normal human being. But it's still working for me.

Basically, I appreciate that I can game at about 5% efficiency and still have a normal dating life.

Fair enough statement. But there are so many countries out there, which still have higher efficiency and quality for an over 35 gentleman, such as you and I. I am not against Poland, I am just for something better.

Chochemonger...which other countries are you current preference out of interest?...as a Brit I find I get on well with Lithuanians as they have a similar sense of humour but its way too cold in the winter there for me! (and also Poland)

Explorer, I think so much of these questions, about where to pick a country are age dependent. As a young man Poland and Lithuania seem perfectly fine. As an over 35 guy, it becomes a bit more complicated. That is why I am picking Ukraine over Serbia, for example. Or why always Colombia over Peru. Or even the Phils over Indonesia. As a younger man my choices would be different.

But what about older guys, such as me, who are OK with pursuing women in the 27-32 age bracket? Would Poland still be doable from your point of view? I'm thinking specifically of Krakow here and am thinking of women who are well-educated, feminine and single.

[zuma]

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

But what about older guys, such as me, who are OK with pursuing women in the 27-32 age bracket? Would Poland still be doable from your point of view? I'm thinking specifically of Krakow here and am thinking of women who are well-educated, feminine and single.

This kind of women in Poland are not single. If they are, it means there is a big problem with her. That's why we encounter so much issues with polish girls over 27+. According to polish soocial way of life, a women who is still single at age of 27+ means big trouble.

I was talking with a polish girl friend and asked her why so many good-looking girls are engaged with ugly-average polish guys? She told me that after university fuckfest, they are looking for a guy who is serious, stable with a job. Appearance doesn't count, they just look for stability for family purpose. Thus, so many beta guys with hot polish girls. Consequently, if a hot 27+ polish girl is still single, well ... there is something wrong and her behaviour so.

[Akula]

(05-19-2015 01:47 PM)zuma Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

But what about older guys, such as me, who are OK with pursuing women in the 27-32 age bracket? Would Poland still be doable from your point of view? I'm thinking specifically of Krakow here and am thinking of women who are well-educated, feminine and single.

This kind of women in Poland are not single. If they are, it means there is a big problem with her. That's why we encounter so much issues with polish girls over 27+. According to polish soocial way of life, a women who is still single at age of 27+ means big trouble.

I was talking with a polish girl friend and asked her why so many good-looking girls are engaged with ugly-average polish guys? She told me that after university fuckfest, they are looking for a guy who is serious, stable with a job. Appearance doesn't count, they just look for stability for family purpose. Thus, so many beta guys with hot polish girls. Consequently, if a hot 27+ polish girl is still single, well ... there is something wrong and her behaviour so.

Good insights. So maybe 25-27 is "Panic time" for these women? (versus 35+ in the US (if at all)).

Looking at the bolded part, well, I have to say isn't that how it's supposed to be in a functioning "democracy" where they are still at least somewhat supportive of the family structure and men's rights?

I wonder how bad guys get screwed in divorce scenarios in Poland now....

[whoishe]

(05-19-2015 01:47 PM)zuma Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 08:15 AM)aphelion Wrote:  

But what about older guys, such as me, who are OK with pursuing women in the 27-32 age bracket? Would Poland still be doable from your point of view? I'm thinking specifically of Krakow here and am thinking of women who are well-educated, feminine and single.

This kind of women in Poland are not single. If they are, it means there is a big problem with her. That's why we encounter so much issues with polish girls over 27+. According to polish soocial way of life, a women who is still single at age of 27+ means big trouble.

I was talking with a polish girl friend and asked her why so many good-looking girls are engaged with ugly-average polish guys? She told me that after university fuckfest, they are looking for a guy who is serious, stable with a job. Appearance doesn't count, they just look for stability for family purpose. Thus, so many beta guys with hot polish girls. Consequently, if a hot 27+ polish girl is still single, well ... there is something wrong and her behaviour so.

In general I would agree, but even if I don't know many girls locally, I know one exception to this rule (her family is extremely close with my parents). Just wondering how many exceptions I could find if looking around more closely.

She is 30 now, probably in low "7" range, from strong family and she's very close with her father (who is a great guy by the way, I also have a good contact with him), she was in a few LTRs and she seems to have plenty of positive qualities. She recently has decided to concentrate more on her "career" (she is vet) and probably will leave in 1-2 years to USA to join her less attractive sister who is married there to an older guy.

But looking around I am quite surprised she is still single. Maybe she is just an exception and I wouldn't find many more of them.

[magicone]

(05-06-2015 10:44 AM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  

I would imagine that most Polish girls have had sex with a foreign guy before - simply because of the volume of foreign tourist traffic that is reported here.

Thus, they will only want a foreign guy because of his attractiveness, not necessarily because of his nationality and you'll have to stand out more than the other tourists do.

And here is the worst of what the hordes of british tourists
are doing in Poland

http://www.krakow-poland.com/blog/2011/0...rikes-Back

[chochemonger1]

I just banged a 29 year old from Seattle, who was fun, cute, open with big tits and she came to my place directly, after a 2 hour date last weekend. Im not proud of it, here in Poland, but that is what Warsaw has become. That was the best time I have had here and it didnt hurt that she speaks spanish well and sucks a mean cock, like only an American girl can. If I am going to suffer, let it be with a young ukranian girl, but ill pass on older polish ones.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-19-2015 04:35 PM)magicone Wrote:  

(05-06-2015 10:44 AM)elcidcampeador Wrote:  

I would imagine that most Polish girls have had sex with a foreign guy before - simply because of the volume of foreign tourist traffic that is reported here.

Thus, they will only want a foreign guy because of his attractiveness, not necessarily because of his nationality and you'll have to stand out more than the other tourists do.

And here is the worst of what the hordes of british tourists
are doing in Poland

http://www.krakow-poland.com/blog/2011/0...rikes-Back

Those guys have only brothels as an option. And strangely enough Polish girls still like British and Irish men if they can approach them alone while being sober and not being dressed like a 5 year old.

Frankly I see those groups occasionally and they are harmless. It takes a lot of alcohol to drown that Blue Pill confusion and general life disappointment.

[chochemonger1]

The 29 yr old from Seattle, had lived extensively in Argentina and Spain before. So, I think that is the major reason she still maintains her feminity and has kept her feminist views in check. She has great long hair, brought me home made cookies, sucked like a champ and could talk about many things such as art, music, literature, hustory, etc. But knew when to shut up, when I knew more.
If only most 27 plus women were like that in Poland, I could give up young meat for a couple of months. But that aint going to happen, so Ukraine is next.

[chochemonger1]

It happened in Krakow too. The coolest chick I met there was a 28 yr old Romanian girl, who was working there a year. She used to always call polish girls bitches.

[ElJefe1]

Im confused..... If the 27+ year olds are bat shit crazy Why not just bang younger, hotter Polish girls???

[chochemonger1]

(05-20-2015 05:38 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

Im confused..... If the 27+ year olds are bat shit crazy Why not just bang younger, hotter Polish girls???

It is my working hypothesis that under 24s in Poland, like in the west, are for the most part not interested in over 35 guys. This is based on not one single under 25 match on Tinder, after weeks in Warsaw and Krakow, or whatever other online resources there are. And also about 20 approaches.
But as have been stated before, unless you do at least 100 approaches you cannot authoritatively make a conclusion.
But I am like you, so heading to Ukraine next week, to go work on some more available younger tail.

[ElJefe1]

I'm 36 and havent had those problems when visiting Warsaw, I'm currently in Krakow and I have multiple matches on tinder and dates lined up. I've just arrived this morning so I'll update this as my time goes, thoguh I'll only be in Poland for a week or two before heading back to BP. How old are you bro? What age do you have on your Tinder profile?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-20-2015 09:04 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

I'm 36 and havent had those problems when visiting Warsaw, I'm currently in Krakow and I have multiple matches on tinder and dates lined up. I've just arrived this morning so I'll update this as my time goes, thoguh I'll only be in Poland for a week or two before heading back to BP. How old are you bro? What age do you have on your Tinder profile?

Up until 40 - if you don't look fat or old, then you can approach girls in their prime in Poland. There is no need to focus on 26+. But the thing is this - you can do that in the West as well.

Some even manage to do it until 50, but then your looks have to be really youthful. However it's not the Philippines here.

And the girls get into some kind of crazy epiphany stage earlier.

[chochemonger1]

(05-20-2015 09:04 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

I'm 36 and havent had those problems when visiting Warsaw, I'm currently in Krakow and I have multiple matches on tinder and dates lined up. I've just arrived this morning so I'll update this as my time goes, thoguh I'll only be in Poland for a week or two before heading back to BP. How old are you bro? What age do you have on your Tinder profile?

Im 38, but put 34 or 33 in my profiles. My brother is 34 and he once tried an experiment and put 29.... that helped somewhat on tinder.

[chochemonger1]

(05-20-2015 09:23 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 09:04 AM)ElJefe1 Wrote:  

I'm 36 and havent had those problems when visiting Warsaw, I'm currently in Krakow and I have multiple matches on tinder and dates lined up. I've just arrived this morning so I'll update this as my time goes, thoguh I'll only be in Poland for a week or two before heading back to BP. How old are you bro? What age do you have on your Tinder profile?

Up until 40 - if you don't look fat or old, then you can approach girls in their prime in Poland. There is no need to focus on 26+. But the thing is this - you can do that in the West as well.

Some even manage to do it until 50, but then your looks have to be really youthful. However it's not the Philippines here.

And the girls get into some kind of crazy epiphany stage earlier.

I agree, you can decent results anywhere if you have your shit together, have tight game and look decent.
Let me put it simpler, so people can understand better.
If I made a list of the 20 best countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland would not make it.
Now, if I made another list of the worse 20 countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland has just entered that list, at least IMO.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-20-2015 09:52 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

I agree, you can decent results anywhere if you have your shit together, have tight game and look decent.
Let me put it simpler, so people can understand better.
If I made a list of the 20 best countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland would not make it.
Now, if I made another list of the worse 20 countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland has just entered that list, at least IMO.

I came here when I was 36 and fucked two 19 year olds in the first months - and I run Game seldom then. Plenty of my buddies are 37-41 and do well in Poland.

But I rarely approached 27+ women - there are some westernized ones who ride the carousel beyond their 30s, but those are few.

There is too much negative thinking with regard to that perception of "any guy doing bad" above 35 in Poland. That is simply not true. BTW - my Tinder age is 28/29 while being 40 - my friends are doing it the same. Just say you are older when you meetup and had it set up because you did not want to be contacted by old chicks (Fisto talk).

[chochemonger1]

(05-20-2015 10:02 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-20-2015 09:52 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

I agree, you can decent results anywhere if you have your shit together, have tight game and look decent.
Let me put it simpler, so people can understand better.
If I made a list of the 20 best countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland would not make it.
Now, if I made another list of the worse 20 countries for men over 35, with younger women, Poland has just entered that list, at least IMO.

I came here when I was 36 and fucked two 19 year olds in the first months - and I run Game seldom then. Plenty of my buddies are 37-41 and do well in Poland.

But I rarely approached 27+ women - there are some westernized ones who ride the carousel beyond their 30s, but those are few.

There is too much negative thinking with regard to that perception of "any guy doing bad" above 35 in Poland. That is simply not true. BTW - my Tinder age is 28/29 while being 40 - my friends are doing it the same. Just say you are older when you meetup and had it set up because you did not want to be contacted by old chicks (Fisto talk).

I dont question your results. but the thing is I am trying to give a broader perspective. As a man, who concentrates on 18 to 22s wherever he travels, I dont see Poland being that good. But I have always stated I dont do clubs. And as an older Latino man, maybe young polish girls are more weary of me. There are many variables, so yes it is debatable. But Poland is defintely not in the top 20.

[ElJefe1]

I use 29 on Tinder as well because a lot of women filter the ages like 24-29 (or some other nonsensical randomness that so many women are prone to) not all but a lot of the younger ones. Like zelcorpion said I tell them the age after we meetup and have yet to have any say "oh no your too old" actually to the contrary I hear "I hope I'm not too young for you". That's worked everywhere including the states but I genuinely loose wood when dealing with American chicks, or any that speak English natively. Zelcropion where are you located in Poland if you don't mind me asking?

[chochemonger1]

Top 20 countries for men over 35 men and younger women
1. Philiippines
2. Colombia
3. Indonesia
4. Thailand
5. Venezuela
6. Ukraine
7. Vietnam
8. Nicaragua
9. El Salvador
10. Russia
11. Cambodia
12. Peru
13 to 18. Many Subsuharan african countries
19.Moldova
20 Serbia

[magicone]

How fast Poland is getting destroyed:

The polish girl (20 years old) that announced
in interviews to several newspapers that wants to have sex
with 100,000 different men,
and establish a new world record,
has gathered already over 85,000 facebook fans:

http://www.facebook.com/anialisewskasex



http://carloz.newsvine.com/_news/2014/08...100000-men

It was nearly a year ago that I first read about Ania Lisewska's plans to sleep with 100,000 men in what she described as a global sex marathon. At the time, Ania, who lives in Poland, said:

"I want men from Poland, Europe and all around the world. I love sex, fun and men."

Ania received a lot of media attention around the world after announcing her intentions. Since then she has apparently gone on to travel to a few neighboring countries, like the Czech Republic. She also managed to get blackballed by several Middle Eastern nations, including Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia, whose governments found her objective more than a little, uhm, objectionable. However, Ania did not let the Mid-east setback stop her onslaught towards record-breaking sex -- and towards making money

[samsamsam]

^^ at least she didn't get banned by Dubai. Porta potty schoolbus

[chochemonger1]

Took the 33 yr old Turkish woman to pizza, after she came to my apartment and banged her. Nice body, long enough hair and pleasant manner and conversation. It just wasnt that way with older Polish women in Warsaw. I will try Madrid. I love young girls, but if older women are very eager to please, I wont complain so much.