[magicone]

It seems that a general agreement is that Poland seems to be easier than other countries,
for those who prefer one night stands with drunk, rather ugly 5s with instable personalities

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-17-2015 07:50 AM)magicone Wrote:  

It seems that a general agreement is that Poland seems to be easier than other countries,
for those who prefer one night stands with drunk, rather ugly 5s with instable personalities

Exactly - Roosh lives for years now in a country because he likes to fuck drunk ugly 5s.
There is no such bloody agreement.

Foreign PUAs do bootcamps in Poland for a good reason. If they wanted ugly drunk 4-5s, then they would do them in Manchester.

[drasticallyspeaking]

For me there's no argument that there are far more 1-4's in UK than in Poland, and far more 5-7s in Poland than UK. Poland may not be a paradise but you have to admit that most girls 16-35 stay in better shape than in UK or US. I think the top tier UK girls compete with the top tier Poland girls, and I think top tier Ukrainian or Swedish girls would blow both away, but Poland does have a huge percentage of "just hot enough" girls. And there are far more traditional girls there who could make a good girlfriend.

Say what you will about Poland, but I do agree that the average western beta can go there, stay for a few months, and find many sweet 5-7s (depending on the guy's SMV) who will treat him well and would push for a relationship with him if he shows indication that he's staying. Girls who are actually worth being in a relationship with.

Ultimately, I decided I just couldn't live there or date a Polish girl seriously because I find the cultural distance too great, the language barrier too insurmountable, and - the biggest reason - I can't sacrifice the potential earnings I can make in the west.

But if you're a low SMV dude and you just want a loyal, slim, white girl then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s.

I guess I'd say it's much _easier_ to get 5-6s for me there, but the quality itself isn't worth it to me because the conversation is too boring and simplistic.

Would love to hear anyone else's thoughts on whether Eastern girls are good conversationalists or boring ones. I do remember reading Roosh's experiences in Bang Ukraine and him talking about how boring the conversation at dates was, I found myself experiencing the same thing with Polish and Ukrainian girls. But, Ukrainian girls were god damn beautiful. Angelic in some cases. So I think if you are going to make the sacrifices of going East, and deal with the bad conversation, you may as well get yourself an angelic Ukrainian.

[chochemonger1]

(05-17-2015 08:59 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 07:50 AM)magicone Wrote:  

It seems that a general agreement is that Poland seems to be easier than other countries,
for those who prefer one night stands with drunk, rather ugly 5s with instable personalities

Exactly - Roosh lives for years now in a country because he likes to fuck drunk ugly 5s.
There is no such bloody agreement.

Foreign PUAs do bootcamps in Poland for a good reason. If they wanted ugly drunk 4-5s, then they would do them in Manchester.

I will be the first to announce that Poland is done. Roosh is an expert on polish women, but not all of us have his stamina or expertise. It is no better than Slovakia or Sweden, I am just talking about results. Sentimental thoughts about 18 to 22 polish women, i will leave to Napoleon and my imagination.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(05-17-2015 09:37 AM)drasticallyspeaking Wrote:  

For me there's no argument that there are far more 1-4's in UK than in Poland, and far more 5-7s in Poland than UK. Poland may not be a paradise but you have to admit that most girls 16-35 stay in better shape than in UK or US. I think the top tier UK girls compete with the top tier Poland girls, and I think top tier Ukrainian or Swedish girls would blow both away, but Poland does have a huge percentage of "just hot enough" girls. And there are far more traditional girls there who could make a good girlfriend.

Say what you will about Poland, but I do agree that the average western beta can go there, stay for a few months, and find many sweet 5-7s (depending on the guy's SMV) who will treat him well and would push for a relationship with him if he shows indication that he's staying. Girls who are actually worth being in a relationship with.

Ultimately, I decided I just couldn't live there or date a Polish girl seriously because I find the cultural distance too great, the language barrier too insurmountable, and - the biggest reason - I can't sacrifice the potential earnings I can make in the west.

But if you're a low SMV dude and you just want a loyal, slim, white girl then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s.

I guess I'd say it's much _easier_ to get 5-6s for me there, but the quality itself isn't worth it to me because the conversation is too boring and simplistic.

Would love to hear anyone else's thoughts on whether Eastern girls are good conversationalists or boring ones. I do remember reading Roosh's experiences in Bang Ukraine and him talking about how boring the conversation at dates was, I found myself experiencing the same thing with Polish and Ukrainian girls. But, Ukrainian girls were god damn beautiful. Angelic in some cases. So I think if you are going to make the sacrifices of going East, and deal with the bad conversation, you may as well get yourself an angelic Ukrainian.

"But if you're a low SMV dude and you just want a loyal, slim, white girl then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s."

The problem with the UK as I see it is that, although there are a selection of very attractive (looks-wise, at least) 7+ women, there are far more 1-4s, mostly on account of the obesity levels here. So, the competition for those 6+ women is so severe that an average guy in terms of his SMV is by default seen as low SMV by women who are 5/6+. Slim women are priced like diamonds here, simply because they really are becoming a minority of the female demographic and the number of guys wanting to bang them is so high.

[chochemonger1]

(05-17-2015 10:03 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 09:37 AM)drasticallyspeaking Wrote:  

For me there's no argument that there are far more 1-4's in UK than in Poland, and far more 5-7s in Poland than UK. Poland may not be a paradise but you have to admit that most girls 16-35 stay in better shape than in UK or US. I think the top tier UK girls compete with the top tier Poland girls, and I think top tier Ukrainian or Swedish girls would blow both away, but Poland does have a huge percentage of "just hot enough" girls. And there are far more traditional girls there who could make a good girlfriend.

Say what you will about Poland, but I do agree that the average western beta can go there, stay for a few months, and find many sweet 5-7s (depending on the guy's SMV) who will treat him well and would push for a relationship with him if he shows indication that he's staying. Girls who are actually worth being in a relationship with.

Ultimately, I decided I just couldn't live there or date a Polish girl seriously because I find the cultural distance too great, the language barrier too insurmountable, and - the biggest reason - I can't sacrifice the potential earnings I can make in the west.

But if you're a low SMV dude and you just want a loyal, slim, white girl then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s.

I guess I'd say it's much _easier_ to get 5-6s for me there, but the quality itself isn't worth it to me because the conversation is too boring and simplistic.

Would love to hear anyone else's thoughts on whether Eastern girls are good conversationalists or boring ones. I do remember reading Roosh's experiences in Bang Ukraine and him talking about how boring the conversation at dates was, I found myself experiencing the same thing with Polish and Ukrainian girls. But, Ukrainian girls were god damn beautiful. Angelic in some cases. So I think if you are going to make the sacrifices of going East, and deal with the bad conversation, you may as well get yourself an angelic Ukrainian.

"But if you're a low SMV dude and you just want a loyal, slim, white girl then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s."

The problem with the UK as I see it is that, although there are a selection of very attractive (looks-wise, at least) 7+ women, there are far more 1-4s, mostly on account of the obesity levels here. So, the competition for those 6+ women is so severe that an average guy in terms of his SMV is by default seen as low SMV by women who are 5/6+. Slim women are priced like diamonds here, simply because they really are becoming a minority of the female demographic and the number of guys wanting to bang them is so high.

At least in Warsaw it is becoming like the Uk. Not at the obesity levels yet, but it is getting there.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

At least in Warsaw it is becoming like the Uk. Not at the obesity levels yet, but it is getting there.
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I've noticed from my online research how increasing numbers of Polish women are carrying more around the girth. Have you noticed any regional variations, though, in terms of hotspots of obesity? Does Warsaw have a bigger problem with big girls than elsewhere in the country?

[chochemonger1]

(05-17-2015 10:13 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

At least in Warsaw it is becoming like the Uk. Not at the obesity levels yet, but it is getting there.

I've noticed from my online research how increasing numbers of Polish women are carrying more around the girth. Have youesss noticed any regional variations, though, in terms of hotspots of obesity? Does Warsaw have a bigger problem with big girls than elsewhere in the country?
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krakow less than warsaw by 20 percent.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(05-17-2015 10:13 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

At least in Warsaw it is becoming like the Uk. Not at the obesity levels yet, but it is getting there.

I've noticed from my online research how increasing numbers of Polish women are carrying more around the girth. Have you noticed any regional variations, though, in terms of hotspots of obesity? Does Warsaw have a bigger problem with big girls than elsewhere in the country?
[/quote]

Can you discern any impact this has on the ease of picking up slim girls when you're Krakow, compared to Warsaw? I would expect that such a big difference, if true, would surely translate into easier bangs in Krakow than Warsaw.

For me, in Middlesbrough in the north east of England, the fact that at least 50% of the women are overweight makes trying to get even a slim 5 like Mission Impossible and believe that it is the obesity levels in the UK - even more than the feminazi mindset - which is fucking up average guys attempts to get laid in countries such as the UK and US.

Jeez, I gotta get outta here ...

[YossariansRight]

(05-17-2015 10:36 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(05-17-2015 10:13 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

At least in Warsaw it is becoming like the Uk. Not at the obesity levels yet, but it is getting there.

I've noticed from my online research how increasing numbers of Polish women are carrying more around the girth. Have you noticed any regional variations, though, in terms of hotspots of obesity? Does Warsaw have a bigger problem with big girls than elsewhere in the country?

Can you discern any impact this has on the ease of picking up slim girls when you're Krakow, compared to Warsaw? I would expect that such a big difference, if true, would surely translate into easier bangs in Krakow than Warsaw.

For me, in Middlesbrough in the north east of England, the fact that at least 50% of the women are overweight makes trying to get even a slim 5 like Mission Impossible and believe that it is the obesity levels in the UK - even more than the feminazi mindset - which is fucking up average guys attempts to get laid in countries such as the UK and US.

Jeez, I gotta get outta here ...
[/quote]

^^It gives a new definition to the term "grade inflation". It fucking sucks, but, it's the reality.

[drasticallyspeaking]

Agreed that obesity correlates with thirstiness and makes getting quality a much more involved affair.

Let's say you have a foreign city where the people can be hard to relate to and are far less likely to make you laugh, but the obesity rate in that city is minuscule compared to where you're from, and getting laid or a relationship is way way easier. Quality is higher.

Then you have your home city where the obesity rate is high and getting quality women is way more of an endeavour, but you have a higher ability to sack away savings / build your investments, and it's easier to make good friends who you can relate to and have a normal social life. You can speak the language fluently.

That's the choice I think most guys on this forum are debating I think. Do I make decisions based off valuing the pussy in my life, or do I value all the rest.

But I'm starting to think I need to find option 3: a city in the west where local demographics in terms of obesity and gender ratio are better than the usual Man Francisco/Man Jose. Where I can get paid well and have good friendships, and the obesity rate is lower than the national average.

So that's where my thoughts and exploration is moving.

From my experiences living in the US, there are areas near university campuses where I can attain the quality I'm looking for and the average girl walking around is pretty much just as fit as the average girl in Poland, and I can still have a social life where I can to a house party and not feel isolated because I don't completely understand the language/culture/humour. Unfortunately those college towns tend to not have quite as high salaries as NYC/SF.

I will also say, now that I've lived in both college towns in the US and now one uni-town in the UK for more than a month, I'm starting to think US college towns are just much better quality and ease than UK ones. I think you guys in the UK might just be getting fucked worse than we are. It seems like most uni-girls here put forth 0 effort in their looks and are naturally kinda ugly, whereas for me at least the natural genetic makeup of American sorostitutes is a bit prettier (especially in the midwest where the local people are descendants of German immigrants), and I think they put forth more effort into their looks. Going to yoga classes, wearing makeup, etc. But mainly I think UK girls just have shit bodies (both genetically and from a fitness standpoint) compared to American college girls who try, and there are so few quality girls that their egos are all inflated. So anyone in the UK who wants to say in the anglosphere, get the fuck over to America in a place with lots of college age girls. Anyone in the US who wants to say in the anglosphere, stay the fuck away from the UK unless you have a posh accent fetish.

And I think that's enough ranting in a thread about Polish women...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-17-2015 10:55 AM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

For me, in Middlesbrough in the north east of England, the fact that at least 50% of the women are overweight makes trying to get even a slim 5 like Mission Impossible and believe that it is the obesity levels in the UK - even more than the feminazi mindset - which is fucking up average guys attempts to get laid in countries such as the UK and US.

That is nowhere true in Poland. I walk out the door in Krakow and can find dozens of girls that are worthy of approaches within 2 hours. Overweight girls around ages 18-25 are in my estimation at best 10%-15 - and even some of them are bangable, because obese girls are super-rare. I am sure that some guys who don't mind thicker girls would still tap those asses. Sure - when they get married, then some do add the pounds, but not before. A few years ago you did not even see the 10%.

In Poland it's more the butterfaces which limit somewhat bangable girls, but it's not as bad. I don't know where you guys are - either you all have Travesty's standards, where a 6 is a 2 and a 9 is a 5 or you have hit some strange areas and times. There are plenty of slim young 6s in Poland. Sure - the 8+ are rarer than in some countries, but at least the fattening has not taken away the pretty faces with their ugly fat rolls.

[magicone]

(05-17-2015 09:50 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Roosh is an expert on polish women, but not all of us have his stamina or expertise. It is no better than Slovakia or Sweden, I am just talking about results.

Roosh wrote extensively about polish girls this year on his blog:

http://www.rooshv.com/as-the-pussy-turns

http://www.rooshv.com/6-ways-poland-is-b...ke-america

And if you read everything in detail, there is hardly any positive
aspect about Poland at all in his recent writings.

(05-17-2015 10:07 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Ultimately, I decided I just couldn't live there or date a Polish girl seriously because I find the cultural distance too great, the language barrier too insurmountable, and - the biggest reason - I can't sacrifice the potential earnings I can make in the west.

But if you're a low SMV dude then I guess Poland is a great place. Or if you want to fuck lots of 5-7s.

I guess I'd say it's much _easier_ to get 5-6s for me there, but the quality itself isn't worth it to me because the conversation is too boring and simplistic.

Superficiality is the definition of most polish girls behaviour.

[Roosh]

While I agree with the general sentiment of chochemonger, I do find it a bit strange that he has such strong negative emotions from limited experience, and how he is ready to right off an entire class of women based on what appears to be less than even 50 approaches experience. (I think he stated that his day game experience is less than 20.)

In the end he is mostly right, but his intent is strange. It reminds me of my reaction to Danish women, but I did stay there for two full months and did hundreds of approaches. For such a reaction, I'm guessing his expectation of Poland was sky high.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(05-17-2015 11:06 AM)drasticallyspeaking Wrote:  

Agreed that obesity correlates with thirstiness and makes getting quality a much more involved affair.

Let's say you have a foreign city where the people can be hard to relate to and are far less likely to make you laugh, but the obesity rate in that city is minuscule compared to where you're from, and getting laid or a relationship is way way easier. Quality is higher.

Then you have your home city where the obesity rate is high and getting quality women is way more of an endeavour, but you have a higher ability to sack away savings / build your investments, and it's easier to make good friends who you can relate to and have a normal social life. You can speak the language fluently.

That's the choice I think most guys on this forum are debating I think. Do I make decisions based off valuing the pussy in my life, or do I value all the rest.

But I'm starting to think I need to find option 3: a city in the west where local demographics in terms of obesity and gender ratio are better than the usual Man Francisco/Man Jose. Where I can get paid well and have good friendships, and the obesity rate is lower than the national average.

So that's where my thoughts and exploration is moving.

From my experiences living in the US, there are areas near university campuses where I can attain the quality I'm looking for and the average girl walking around is pretty much just as fit as the average girl in Poland, and I can still have a social life where I can to a house party and not feel isolated because I don't completely understand the language/culture/humour. Unfortunately those college towns tend to not have quite as high salaries as NYC/SF.

I will also say, now that I've lived in both college towns in the US and now one uni-town in the UK for more than a month, I'm starting to think US college towns are just much better quality and ease than UK ones. I think you guys in the UK might just be getting fucked worse than we are. It seems like most uni-girls here put forth 0 effort in their looks and are naturally kinda ugly, whereas for me at least the natural genetic makeup of American sorostitutes is a bit prettier (especially in the midwest where the local people are descendants of German immigrants), and I think they put forth more effort into their looks. Going to yoga classes, wearing makeup, etc. But mainly I think UK girls just have shit bodies (both genetically and from a fitness standpoint) compared to American college girls who try, and there are so few quality girls that their egos are all inflated. So anyone in the UK who wants to say in the anglosphere, get the fuck over to America in a place with lots of college age girls. Anyone in the US who wants to say in the anglosphere, stay the fuck away from the UK unless you have a posh accent fetish.

And I think that's enough ranting in a thread about Polish women...

That's my dilemma too. On the one hand, I don't want to sacrifice my standard of living and the social circle that I value here in the UK. But on the other hand, I know that I'm not going to find a girlfriend or any vaguely attractive woman to bang if I stay where I am, even though I'm gaming women wherever I can - through both day and social circle game. I've been vacillating between, "Should I stay or should I go?" for some time now and it's really fucking with my head. The - probably irrationally - optimistic side of me has always won out up to now, asserting that sooner or later I'll strike gold and defy the odds, but that gold has turned out to be just another fucking pot at the end of the proverbial rainbow. I think I've been deluding myself, understandably perhaps given how depressing the reality is, into thinking that the fact that 50% of the women being obese and thus a non-starter as far as bangable options, won't have disastrous effects on my attempts to pull one of the remaining slim women in the dating pool. Sooner or later reality will force you to recognize it for what it is, however much you've been pissing against the wind and wanting to see it otherwise. I think I've finally reached that point over the last few weeks.

As for finding a city in the US (or UK, for that matter) where the obesity rate is much lower than the national average, well, good luck with that one. For me, it's something I've thought about and haven't really managed to discern any particular city in the UK where the obesity rate for women is significantly lower than the national average, with the exception of London, perhaps. Unfortunately, I don't earn anywhere near enough money to afford to relocate there, so I'm stuck here for the moment whether I like it or not. The same probably also applies to the Home Counties, such as Surrey, Kent, Hampshire, et.c., along with the financial constraints.

The strange thing is, even a year ago I was able to find slim women around age or a few years younger to date. Hell, I even picked up three phone numbers and was dating one of them in a single week last summer. I've been lifting weights and am in a better state, physically, yet my ROI seems to be going down with every passing month that I stay here. I've also been more confident and approaching more than I did a year ago, yet, absolutely no joy. I get approached quite a bit and complemented on my appearance from post-menopausal women (please don't laugh) yet slim women of fertile age, although I do get occasional bites of interest, seem to be indifferent to my approaches. Hell, even when I was a scrawny student with absolutely no game awareness and would barely dare talk to a girl, I was doing shitloads better than now. I feel like I'm an extra in the Twilight Zone, so bizarre is the dating dynamics I see around me - warpigs matched up with slim, tall and athletic guys or outrageously fat women I meet who nearly always have partners, irrespective of how butt ugly they are. It didn't used to be this way in the UK; it seems that there is now no bottom to how unattractive a woman can be and yet still find a partner, such is the ocean of thirst that surrounds us. It's nothing short of dystopic.

[Akula]

(05-17-2015 01:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

While I agree with the general sentiment of chochemonger, I do find it a bit strange that he has such strong negative emotions from limited experience, and how he is ready to right off an entire class of women based on what appears to be less than even 50 approaches experience. (I think he stated that his day game experience is less than 20.)

In the end he is mostly right, but his intent is strange. It reminds me of my reaction to Danish women, but I did stay there for two full months and did hundreds of approaches. For such a reaction, I'm guessing his expectation of Poland was sky high.

No knowing Poland all that well I'm a bit suprised he's so negative after a few weeks and that it's getting this bad now too, especially as my eyes were opened to EE women many years ago when I sat at a Pizza Hut one afternoon in Warsaw and saw legions of slim and attractive women walk by and thought "man I gotta get over here".

I have to wonder if a big part of it is the age factor though. I feel like when you hit mid-40s it's just a bit of a different game - I can no longer stay out all night and drink like I used to, don't really enjoy drinking as much as I did either, and the universe of available very young women just shrinks a fair bit.

Whereas just a few years ago in my late 30s almost every girl was still on the table, now I need to be more selective and even in EE I think some girls think the age gap is too much. Yeah you can still bang girls 20 years younger than you but the 19-24 year old crowd just seems to be a much lower probability for me now at least so I generally don't bother.

And thus one is left with the 25 (er, 27) and up crowd that Chochemonger is highlighting....well that's not the end of the world in Ukraine at least

[chochemonger1]

(05-17-2015 01:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

While I agree with the general sentiment of chochemonger, I do find it a bit strange that he has such strong negative emotions from limited experience, and how he is ready to right off an entire class of women based on what appears to be less than even 50 approaches experience. (I think he stated that his day game experience is less than 20.)

In the end he is mostly right, but his intent is strange. It reminds me of my reaction to Danish women, but I did stay there for two full months and did hundreds of approaches. For such a reaction, I'm guessing his expectation of Poland was sky high.

Having been to Krakow last October I knew, to a degree, what to expect. Krakow women are sweeter and more compliant. And I knew 18 to 24s, in Warsaw, were even going to be more difficult.
I totally didnt expect how lousy the over 27s were going to be. I figured as I get older, I have to start concentrarting more and more on them, And there are so many in Warsaw, But Ive had about 50 dates and the best 2 were with an American and Turkish woman,
Ive had the preconcieved notion that American women were the worst, but at least in my experience, with women over 27 in warsaw, they might not be.
And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

[chochemonger1]

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

I was expecting a find a fun european playground for when i am older. The search continues.

[magicone]

(05-18-2015 05:12 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

I was expecting a find a fun european playground for when i am older. The search continues.

South East Asia and Colombia in my experience are much more fun playgrounds

[chochemonger1]

(05-18-2015 07:34 AM)magicone Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:12 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

I was expecting a find a fun european playground for when i am older. The search continues.

South East Asia and Colombia in my experience are much more fun playgrounds

Yes, but i also like that european pussy too. Hard to just let it go hehe.

[magicone]

(05-18-2015 07:40 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 07:34 AM)magicone Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:12 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

I was expecting a find a fun european playground for when i am older. The search continues.

South East Asia and Colombia in my experience are much more fun playgrounds

Yes, but i also like that european pussy too. Hard to just let it go hehe.

I enjoyed quite much Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Albania,
Belarus (be warned: low levels of English language in Belarus).

Pretty girls, and usually mentally stable

[chochemonger1]

(05-18-2015 07:56 AM)magicone Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 07:40 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 07:34 AM)magicone Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:12 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

I was expecting a find a fun european playground for when i am older. The search continues.

South East Asia and Colombia in my experience are much more fun playgrounds

Yes, but i also like that european pussy too. Hard to just let it go hehe.

I enjoyed quite much Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Slovenia, Albania,
Belarus (be warned: low levels of English language in Belarus).

Pretty girls, and usually mentally stable

Yes magicone those countries have more stable girls. For Eastern Europe, I dont have have high expectations. Just three to four 18 to 24 yr olds per month or regularly being with over 27s, with nice attitudes. For pure quantity...one goes somewhere else.

[aphelion]

I for one think the death of Poland is greatly overstated. Perhaps it's just lower expectations on my part, or the child-like wonder with which I approach a civilization where attractive girls just over half my age will talk to me like I'm a normal human being. But it's still working for me.

Basically, I appreciate that I can game at about 5% efficiency and still have a normal dating life.

[Akula]

(05-18-2015 05:03 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(05-18-2015 04:56 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

And it is true, unless you make 100 plus approaches, you cant authoritavely state that 18 to 24s are off the table, for older guys in Poland. Though, if anyone wants to make a friendly wager Im down,

I don't think that you will find many guys betting on the Polish 27+ crowd. Better luck banging women of that age in the West.

Well I don't know if I'd go that far Unless you're in NYC or certain other towns the over 27 crowd back home in the states is pretty bad in general - you're dealing with entitled fatties half the time I think.