[kbell]

Annegret Raunigk (there is regret in her first name) is going to give birth to 4 babies at age 65. She already has 13 kids and is a school teacher. The last kid was at 55 when the media gave her parade out being a desiccated mummy giving kids. The kids have 5 different fathers so she is cock hopping. Is there really a wall if someone still wants to bang her? She is set to retire soon too!?! I'm not posting pictures since its disgusting mentally and literally.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...ldren.html

She used IVFand refused what "selective reduction" abortion?

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Her gynaecologist initially mentioned the possibility of a 'selective reduction', where one or more fetuses is aborted in a multi-fetal pregnancy, but she declined.

They might not even been her child since it sounds like its another egg and sperm. Hamster quotes are

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But the English and Russian teacher, who is due to retire this year, said she decided to have the babies as she was ‘still quite fit’ and capable of looking after them.

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She defended her decisions to get pregnant later in life, saying: ‘I think one needs to decide for oneself and not listen too much to the opinions of others.’

[n0000]

The more I hear about IVF, the more the teaching of the Catholic church makes complete sense. Child bearing should occur at the age that nature has ordained (approx 18-30) and in the context of marriage. Anything else should be heavily shamed. I never thought I would come to believe the Catholics were correct. Modern technology allows a woman who is retiring to conceive 4 children, but what will happen when she is in a nursing home and they are twelve?

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Pope Benedict XVI, speaking to members of the Pontifical Academy for Life earlier this year, addressed the issue of married couples struggling with infertility. He said, “The Church pays great attention to the suffering of couples with infertility, she cares for them and, precisely because of this, encourages medical research.”

But he warned against “the lure of the technology of artificial insemination,” which is not permitted by Catholic teaching. The Pope said to couples unable to conceive: “[Your] vocation to marriage is no less because of this. Spouses, for their own baptismal and marriage vocation, are called to cooperate with God in the creation of a new humanity. The vocation to love, in fact, is a vocation to the gift of self and this is a possibility that no organic condition can prevent. There, where science has not yet found an answer, the answer that gives light comes from Christ.”

Catholic teaching prohibits in vitro fertilization, maintaining that a child has the right to be conceived in the marital embrace of his parents. Human sexuality has two components, the unitive and procreative; IVF separates these components and makes the procreative its only goal. Pope Paul VI said that there is an “inseparable connection, willed by God, and unable to be broken by man on his own initiative, between the two meanings of the conjugal act: the unitive meaning and the procreative meaning.”

There are other issues involved. IVF makes the child a commodity produced in a laboratory, and makes doctors, technicians, and even business people part of the conception process. The sperm used is usually obtained by masturbation, which the Church teaches is immoral. The sperm or eggs used may not come from the couple desiring the child; because one of the spouses may be infertile, it may be necessary to use the sperm or eggs from an outsider. Most of the embryos conceived—which the Church holds should be respected new human lives—die, are frozen indefinitely for later implantation, are used for research, or are discarded. Children conceived through IVF also have a greater incidence of birth defects.

The bottom line is that the Church views the child as a gift from God, not a right (although the child has rights).

I think the characterization of the child as a commodity is very apt in this case. This woman suffers from a maladaptive desire to produce children and not provide them with a decent chance at a happy life.

[Glaucon]

(04-12-2015 09:40 AM)n0000 Wrote:  

Modern technology allows a woman who is retiring to conceive 4 children, but what will happen when she is in a nursing home and they are twelve?

Well you see, it was never about the children's well being.

[Oz.]

[kbell]

If the kids don't have a ton developmental disorders there is a chance she will die when they reach 13-20. A quad pregnancy would be rough on a young woman's body, I'm sure she will have no issues being a grandma and so strong.



Who is going to run after the kids when they are 2-6? Also can she breastfeed even?

[Days of Broken Arrows]

She's "still quite fit and capable of looking after them." Yeah, because illness never befalls people in old age *rolls eyes.*

Two examples:

In 1999, playwright Wendy Wasserstein had her daughter by some artificial means (she never said what) and became a single mother at age 48. By age 55 she was dead of lymphoma, leaving behind an orphan.

In 2006, Maria del Carmen Bousada de Lara of Spain gave birth at 66. She died two years later of stomach cancer. There was apparently no husband in the picture, so she left behind twin orphans.

These are two examples. If I was researching an article, I'm sure I could find many more. And beyond dying, there is also the issue of illness, which affects older people (just in case anyone didn't notice that).*

So, while their kids are still young, elder-mothers also burden their offspring with the chore of caring for the elderly:

"Hey Timmy, you goin' to football practice today?"
"Sorry, I had to quit the team because I have to drive my mom to physical therapy every day and then to kidney dialysis, then to the spine center..."
"Er...OK, OK...I get it. Bye!"

* The media is all rah-rah about how women's health needs to be more seriously addressed because this or that disease "hits women hardest"....but when it comes to bearing children at age 60, all of a sudden the media starts claiming women are the paragon of good health.

[GoldHawkStar]

(04-12-2015 10:48 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(04-12-2015 09:40 AM)n0000 Wrote:  

Modern technology allows a woman who is retiring to conceive 4 children, but what will happen when she is in a nursing home and they are twelve?

Well you see, it was never about the children's well being.

Thank you. This needed to be said.

The entire time I was reading this, I just kept thinking that the reason for her actions couldn't be anything beyond her own well-being and the attention she receives.

But the media will milk the hell out of this one and make her out to be a strong, independent woman whom we could all learn some sort of life lesson from.

Same with lesbian moms. One major trend that I'm seeing in my crim classes is that there is a huge correlation between a lack of fatherhood and bad childhoods, drug abuse, crime in the future, etc.

But y'know, go them for exercising their rights.

It's never really about the kids.

[SirTimothy]

And now every "strong independent woman" out there will be saying "see, she had kids at 65, why can't I have kids at 50?", and further putting off a real family (as God and nature intended) in favor of a career behind an HR desk.

But in an age where women's rights are the only ones that matter, no matter the consequences, this is what happens.

[kbell]

That's the point of the article though. A woman can work till she are about ready to retire, than start a family. No consequence according to the article. They glossed over the complications part. The comments section is calling her out for being selfish. But I assume some version of this article has its you go girl commenters as well.

[tarquin]

There were some posts a while back by users talking about raising fetuses in incubators so that women can decide when in their lives to have children without any input from a man. I thought it was a twilight zone type post. Now I'm afraid it is the future.

[civpro]

This is just fucked up and repulsive on some instinctual level to me, like it simply should not be allowed to happen. I hope she miscarries.

[rpg]

This lady is absolutely nuts. 13 kids by 5 different fathers. Now with four in her uterus at 65? Holy shit. If anyone ever needed to swallow it is her.

[speakeasy]

On the plus side, at least she's actually doing something about Europe's plunging fertility rates, lol.

What's worse? Her, or the typical young girl that let's her country demographically implode because she'd rather work as a director of online-media-public-relations-digital-content-strategy and ride the cock carousel?

[Mike5055]

That's messed up. I'm guessing she isn't paying for them on a teachers salary.

[kbell]

I'd say she is worse since the kids will be worse off if she bites the bucket before they can survive on their own. And her kids will inherit her selfishness. The barren millenials will simply die out and be replaced by Muslims in Germany.

By the way the glasses style she is wearing is the most difficult to repair and are extremely fragile. Everybody I know that purchases them are nuts in some way.

[Patrickstar]

WTF! It's already hell that she has 13 kids and from 5 different fathers but now 4 more at 65! Most of her life shes been taking care of her kids. I wonder when was the last time she went on any kind of vacation.

[VolandoVengoVolandoVoy]

I'm sure the German taxpayers are quite honored by the decision she is making for them.

[Fast Eddie]

(04-12-2015 08:23 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

I'm sure the German taxpayers are quite honored by the decision she is making for them.

Eh, German taxpayers are already paying for the profligacy of half of Europe not to mention their own, er...fecund... immigrant population. If anything, they'll probably be happy to find that at least some German taxpayer money is going to, you know, a German.

[TravelerKai]

(04-12-2015 02:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

On the plus side, at least she's actually doing something about Europe's plunging fertility rates, lol.

What's worse? Her, or the typical young girl that let's her country demographically implode because she'd rather work as a director of online-media-public-relations-digital-content-strategy and ride the cock carousel?

That's basic bitch's job title alright.

[samsamsam]

(04-12-2015 01:40 PM)rpg Wrote:  

This lady is absolutely nuts. 13 kids by 5 different fathers. Now with four in her uterus at 65? Holy shit. If anyone ever needed to swallow it is her.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(04-12-2015 11:07 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

* The media is all rah-rah about how women's health needs to be more seriously addressed because this or that disease "hits women hardest"....but when it comes to bearing children at age 60, all of a sudden the media starts claiming women are the paragon of good health.

It's all a twisted trap by the feminist media. Any such case is paraded as a wonderful achievement, while in reality it is rather an unhealthy case of surrogacy with her performing terribly as a surrogate on purchased eggs and semen. The nutrient transfer to the baby alone of such an aging pregnancy is catastrophic.

And the funny part is that the German woman certainly survived mainly on tax-payer's help as well as some child support previous fathers paid some 20 years ago.

Frankly all those rah-rah articles are effecting the opposite - more 30-something women think that they can still ride the carousel and find the Super-Alpha of their dreams. Recently a female journalist told me in full seriousness that she knows plenty of women who give birth in their 40s, so it's no biggie. However those women don't tell anything of the hormone treatments, stress on their bodies etc. Also she does not meet the countless other couples who fail at those IVF treatments.