[Seamus]

I like fucking girls on balconies or up against windows to the street. It always drives the girls wild, knowing someone might be watching, since a lot of them have exhibitionist tendencies. I once fucked a girl in the middle of a park during Carnaval in Spain, with people cheering and drinking all around us. The rush was pretty insane. I was 18 and hammered though, definitely wouldn't be something I'd risk nowadays.

I also love surreptitiously squeezing a girls ass or whispering something filthy when we're in polite company, just to see her blush and try and hold it together. A power play sort of thing.

Another I'll add is spanking. Like serious over the knee style stuff. I had an ex who would be about to cum just from that alone, and she got me into it.

[Sourcecode]

Were cell phones around then? Cause that video is probably still floating around if it is haha

[DChambers]

(02-02-2015 02:39 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

I'm a sexual sadist so I have a lot of "perverse pleasures". I always keep it legal and consensual as well as giving them a safe word though. I like making women cry. Their tears and breakdowns are like sweet music to me. Some easy ways to achieve this:

- Beating them (duh). When a girl has never seriously been caned, paddled, whipped, or shocked it's usually easy to make them cry by laying into them. You'd be surprised how many woman refuse to use their safewords. Especially if you prime them first: "you're not going to pussy out and safeword are you"?; "Show me that you're a tough girl!", etc. Or if they've put in effort up front by driving long distances to be dominated.

- Making them drink piss. Many of them never dreamed that they would cross this line. The looks on their faces when you turn them into a human urinal for the first time is priceless. The key is not to ask but just do it. Get them naked, handcuff them behind the back, get them on their knees with their mouth open, and just do it. As soon as you piss in their mouth demand that they swallow. Many will, a few will need you to make a couple of repeated demands to swallow, and a handful will safeword.

- Farting in their mouth. This is a surefire way to break a woman down. I've only done it three times. All three times resulted in crying and shaking. One of those women said it was the meanest thing anyone had ever done to her. This is pretty straight forward. Have them lick your asshole. Then while you're using their tongue as toilet paper let one rip right in their mouth.

- Putting a big glob of Icy Hot on their clit. I've also heard it works with hot sauce but haven't tried that yet. Also "figging" which you peel a ginger root and stick it up their ass. It burns like hell. Had one girl tell me it felt like I shoved a blow torch up her ass.

[Seamus]

(02-02-2015 09:56 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Were cell phones around then? Cause that video is probably still floating around if it is haha

Haha thankfully that was before smart phones took over the scene. And in any event, I had a mask on. Gotta love Carnaval

[TravelerKai]

(02-02-2015 08:51 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 06:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

Could you post a data-sheet with this info? I'm really interested and I'm sure a lot of members are too.

Yeah I know. After I finish my current project, this was on the table to mull over at least. I sent a handful of guys some stuff in PMs, but the hard part about this is where should I start to keep it brief enough for a datasheet? Not everyone knows basic psychology or MBTI for that matter. The datasheet could be the length of a book. My China datasheet is 50 pages long at least. Will probably draw in alot of skeptics too that cannot understand it well enough. I dunno. We will see.

[TravelerKai]

(02-02-2015 09:00 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 08:51 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 06:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

Could you post a data-sheet with this info? I'm really interested and I'm sure a lot of members are too.

TK to short circuit all that expertise would you say that:

1) Compliance
2) Responsiveness to communication

Could be the two highest practical things in knowing if a woman is a bad apple or not?

Those seem to be the two I notice in girls I treat much better and start to care about. I never even think about a mini-LTR with a chick unless she meets those with flying colors.

Absolutely. Submission is always crucial. Number 1 and 2 are both submission basically.

[RockHard]

This thread actually kept me awake last night. I woke up at 3AM thinking about stack-on's posts. I'm sorry to see that he got banned. Don't know the specific reason but if it was for trolling, I'm going to say I've been around the BDSM community some and he's not trolling. Everything he said jives with what I know about BDSM.

What I wish was that stack-on had a chance to write his data sheet AND that he'd made some mention of "aftercare". To his credit, stack-on did write "If you want to learn how to do bdsm the right way go to fetlife." and talked about learning to do this the right way. He's not talking garden-variety cruelty here, like "haha, I jizzed on her face when she wasn't expecting it!" When you put this much abuse onto a woman, there's this concept of "aftercare". If you're seriously interested in this stuff, do some research. There's a difference between BDSM and straight abuse which Lizard actually touched on:

(02-02-2015 08:48 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

What I cannot stomach is the utter boredom, conventionality, and inspidity of these grim "BDSM" antics, and the fussily uninspired jargon that surrounds them.

It is no surprise that feminists and other dullards are drawn to this harshly impoverished world and its language. Whether it's a "safe space" or a "safe word", they have an unerring instinct for the most grating and joyless cant imaginable.

Agree. BDSM bores me for that reason, and also because honestly, seeing a chick get flogged to the point she's bleeding? Piss? The kind of detachment required to really be a "Dom"? That's why I know I'm not a sadist.

(02-02-2015 05:09 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

I wasn't abused as a child. I think that I was born this way. My first sexual fantasy included hot women I saw at the beach in bikinis being chained to a basement wall. As for the women I've played with: some of them were, and some of them weren't. The important thing is that you either fulfill your fantasies in a safe, consensual, and legal way. Or failing that choose not to act on them.

Another dom once described his experience to me and it sounded exactly like stack-on (so much it makes me wonder if it's the same guy). He's always had violent fantasies about women and his sexual desire was always centered around violence. I just don't get that. To the extent that I'm into kink, it came a long time after I discovered the joy of plain ol' fucking. It seems to me like the guys who are really into this have always seen women this way. Yes, there's a lot of really fucked up psychology going on.

FWIW, I've never known many serious hotties into this stuff. I hooked up a long time (~10 years) ago with a chick who you can find on Google as "slave kas". My encounter was much tamer than any of the video you'll find. That's the hottest chick I've seen heavily into BSDM.

[TravelerKai]

We should have a deeper discussion on what place bdsm stuff has with men in the context of the manosphere or redpill masculinity. At some point these fetishes really seem on the surface to either be unhealthy or harmful in ways porn is. Probably worse.

If there has been a thread on that before someone link it if you remember it.

[RockHard]

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-27278.html

This thread got a little derailed. WIA didn't mean to start a BDSM thread but ol' stack-on kinda hijacked it.

There's actually good debate in the other thread about the psychological vs physical aspect. There's also discussion about the entanglements you get into. When you're that far inside a chick's head, you don't just dump her. Let alone the whole "rape charge" fear, you're opening up the possibility of some really psycho behavior when you're done with her. I just saw the recent posts on the other thread cover this, so again, go read that thread.

One thing that I didn't mention is that in BDSM there's a lot of swinging & open relationships implied. One reason I don't like BDSM is I'm just not into sharing partners with other dudes.

I was thinking about this and it's a bit of the old madonna/whore thing. It's pretty hard to respect her as a person, or worse, the mother of your kids, after you've completely broken her emotionally.

Anyway, we should take this to the other thread. I like WIA's idea behind the thread and it's a shame it got derailed.

[WestIndianArchie]

@Rockhard

Naw, the post went sideways before that. There's not much I can ever do about that. It's why I don't start many threads.

Ol boy in defending himself used the thread title as his shield. Other folks just riff off some little detail and use it as a springboard for whatever they really want to talk about, regardless of whether it fits the entire topic.

It's like the internet version of waiting for someone to finish talking so you can chime in.

"There's actually good debate in the other thread about the psychological vs physical aspect."

That's one way to look at it.
And clearly physical perversion is the winner.

WIA

[kaotic]

I like how all these basic girls suddenly think BDSM is all 50 Shades of Grey

[Cr33pin]

BDSM seems to have a bad rap here. Stack-on was not at all out of line in my opinion. There are tons of girls in the BSDM scene who are seeking the treatments stack-on was referring to.

He did give advice on how to correctly start into BDSM as RockHard mentioned above me. An in more then one of his post he said "with consent.' As someone who partakes in the BDSM lifestyle myself, I even though some of his perversions were a little hardcore. But to just ban him seems a bit extreme, I wonder if he got any kind of warning.

A huge perk about BDSM that is hand in hand with something most guys on the forum are interested in. Is the ability to be in your 50s+ and have access to hot 18+ year old girls who are more then willing to happily let you do foul things to them that other men that age would have to pay for.

[Cyr]

(02-03-2015 01:03 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Rockhard

Naw, the post went sideways before that. There's not much I can ever do about that. It's why I don't start many threads.

Ol boy in defending himself used the thread title as his shield. Other folks just riff off some little detail and use it as a springboard for whatever they really want to talk about, regardless of whether it fits the entire topic.

It's like the internet version of waiting for someone to finish talking so you can chime in.

"There's actually good debate in the other thread about the psychological vs physical aspect."

That's one way to look at it.
And clearly physical perversion is the winner.

WIA

Hadn't thought about that before and it's very true. Happens on pretty much every thread.

[runsonmagic]

(02-03-2015 11:28 AM)RockHard Wrote:  

This thread actually kept me awake last night. I woke up at 3AM thinking about stack-on's posts. I'm sorry to see that he got banned. Don't know the specific reason but if it was for trolling, I'm going to say I've been around the BDSM community some and he's not trolling. Everything he said jives with what I know about BDSM.

Same. I've been on fet. There are girls who would gladly sign up for what he was offering, and worse.

Cr33pin Wrote:

BDSM seems to have a bad rap here. Stack-on was not at all out of line in my opinion. There are tons of girls in the BSDM scene who are seeking the treatments stack-on was referring to.

People fear what they don't understand.

Just as it is hard for some men to wrap their mind around the idea women enjoy verbal abuse (negs, put-downs, teasing, etc.) it is even harder for some to wrap their mind around the idea women enjoy physical or emotional abuse.

Even harder to accept that some men might enjoy giving it.

[Cheetah]

(02-03-2015 04:20 PM)Cr33pin Wrote:  

BDSM seems to have a bad rap here. Stack-on was not at all out of line in my opinion. There are tons of girls in the BSDM scene who are seeking the treatments stack-on was referring to.

He did give advice on how to correctly start into BDSM as RockHard mentioned above me. An in more then one of his post he said "with consent.' As someone who partakes in the BDSM lifestyle myself, I even though some of his perversions were a little hardcore. But to just ban him seems a bit extreme, I wonder if he got any kind of warning.

A huge perk about BDSM that is hand in hand with something most guys on the forum are interested in. Is the ability to be in your 50s+ and have access to hot 18+ year old girls who are more then willing to happily let you do foul things to them that other men that age would have to pay for.

It's not my intention to try and stick my nose in the job of the moderators, but I suppose that once a member is banned, that member is always banned?

[eradicator]

(01-28-2015 06:19 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

I was tempted to write a post about how Female Giraffes kick Male Giraffes in the chest when they're in estrus. There's an animalistic/antagonistic element to the mating game that guys rarely touch on when they talk about it.

WIA

giraffe game thread. It's coming.

[Flint]

Wow, stack-on was kind of the antithesis to that one user whose first post was the Eating Booty thread.

This never forum never ceases to surprise me.

[The Lizard of Oz]

Again. My distaste for the contemporary "BDSM" world (I can't even use that word without scare quotes) has nothing to do with prudery or moralizing. I simply find that world incredibly dull, rote, and uninspired. The thoroughly conventional inanity that characterizes it is the opposite of what I fondly think of as perverse pleasures.

When I hear the term "safe word" I feel as if I might never have another erection for the rest of my life. There is nothing like this sort of cringeworthy cant to kill all interest in the one thing in which you might have thought nothing could kill your interest.

And let's face it. When there are three "doms" in your average cubicle farm, maybe the whole enterprise is not quite as "edgy" as its participants might like to imagine.

[Brian Shima]

Lizard why not just compare it to modern rap or EDM to get your point across. Bland, dull, boring, un original, to trendy for its own good

[Comte De St. Germain]

^Mainstream rap you mean the underground is still popping.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-03-2015 07:37 PM)Brian Shima Wrote:  

Lizard why not just compare it to modern rap or EDM to get your point across. Bland, dull, boring, un original, to trendy for its own good

Because it would be an insult to modern rap, as uninspired as it may be.

[Cr33pin]

[The Lizard of Oz]

@Creepin LOL!!

Actually 50 Shades of Gray is good because a lot of hot sluts will have read it and will see the movie and it will get them wet and ready. Sluts love that shit more than life itself, and that's all for the best.

But to return to the comparison with modern rap. Hard as they may try, blacks can never achieve the level of grim joylessness that whites are capable of when they set their mind to it. And "BDSM", let's face it, is a dreadfully white endeavor if ever there was one.

[Cr33pin]

(02-03-2015 07:57 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

@Creepin LOL!!

Actually 50 Shades of Gray is good because a lot of hot sluts will have read it and will see the movie and it will get them wet and ready. Sluts love that shit more than life itself, and that's all for the best.

But to return to the comparison with modern rap. Hard as they may try, blacks can never achieve the level of grim joylessness that whites are capable of when they set their mind to it. And "BDSM", let's face it, is a dreadfully white endeavor if ever there was one.

Bro... the BDSM market is saturated with girls seeking black men... BBC is a fetish for just about every hot girls profile have seen on BSDM websites.

Join Fetlife, don't knock it till you try it! But in all seriousness the white girls on there crave BBC and black "Bulls." Some corny white guys will even be trying to get you to cuckold them and bang their wives.

[Brian Shima]

Most of the girls are also hideous on Fetlife and the BDSM scene in general. they probably realize how much more attention they can get in that world and stick with it