[game_ethic]

One of my perverse pleasures is banging a chick off of Tinder and not replying to her messages the following day. Getting flooded with messages saying "I'm the scum of the earth" and "I fucking hate you, you took advantage of me" is a story worth telling the boys. What makes it even more hilarious is that they block you right after.

[Menace]

I'm not into bdsm myself, but the things stack-on mentions are, based on my indirect knowledge, not uncommon in that community once you're really in it.

I think to be really good at bdsm (and it takes skill for sure), you truly need to get off on it and enjoy it. I've done just mild bondage, and while it's fun, it doesn't really make me crazy horny or fill me with immense desire or pleasure.

[stack-on]

(02-02-2015 04:52 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 02:39 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

I'm a sexual sadist

(02-02-2015 03:53 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

bdsm

stack-on,

Were you abused as a child?

I was. (mostly by older women)

And, I am curious about bdsm. I have dabbled in it a little bit but I am extremely cautious because I want to make sure I am doing it in a healthy way..

Why do you like this stuff?

Are many of the participants "trauma" survivors?

Thanks

I wasn't abused as a child. I think that I was born this way. My first sexual fantasy included hot women I saw at the beach in bikinis being chained to a basement wall. As for the women I've played with: some of them were, and some of them weren't. The important thing is that you either fulfill your fantasies in a safe, consensual, and legal way. Or failing that choose not to act on them.

If you want to learn how to do bdsm the right way go to fetlife. Join a local association, and go to a meetup. Almost everywhere will have a local group where you can be vetted. You can go there anonymously (you don't have to give your name or info). Local groups generally have free or low cost monthly educational seminars where you can learn. They also have play parties where you can meet other kinksters and use what you've learned at a dungeon.

Getting involved locally and attending educational events will do a lot to help you grow. There are tons of things that I've learned to do safely because of the local community that I wouldn't have otherwise been able to do: Electricity, hot wax, liquid nitrogen, branding, etc.

[stack-on]

Duplicate post.

[Travesty]

^Am I ignorant that this sounds like any drug addiction or like porn where you need bigger and bigger doses to achieve the same high?

[stack-on]

(02-02-2015 05:17 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

^Am I ignorant that this sounds like any drug addiction or like porn where you need bigger and bigger doses to achieve the same high?

It's no more of an addiction then chasing women is. A man could just sleep with the same woman over and over. But most guys want a sex life full of abundance and variety. Blondes, brunettes, redheads, asians, white girls, latinas, 3-somes, orgies, etc. Guys want to pull 7's instead of 6's; then 8 instead of 7's. The list could go on. That takes skill and time to cultivate. The better you get at it the the more options you will have. Same deal with bdsm. You could just learn to cane someone; then only cane that one person that over and over. But that gets boring. Kinksers want variety and novelty with what they do. Learning that takes time and skill.

Think of bdsm as a second layer on top of game. You have to have decent game to get partners. Then if you're inclined to do so you put in the time to learn how to properly and safely do kinky shit to the submissives you pull. If you put in more time you can start to do more: interesting, intricate, unique things.

[The Lizard of Oz]

There is nothing duller or more cringeworthy than today's "BDSM community" with its "safe words", "dungeons" and "play parties" full of "consensual" "kinksters". No wonder unimaginative women love it so much.

"Trauma farming". What a disgusting piece of cant.

[stack-on]

Quote:

"Trauma farming". What a disgusting piece of cant.

The fact that your delicate sensibilities can't handle what I do reflects poorly on you, not me my friend. You haven't lived until you've pissed in the mouth of a self proclaimed feminist, made her swallow it, and then watched her sob and shake uncontrollably!

[WestIndianArchie]

(02-02-2015 04:31 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

Oh I forgot to add trauma farming to the list.

[kaotic]

Even thought I've never experienced anything near or as far as stack has.

I'm not gonna knock him for this one, yes, my mind was blown, I honestly thought the guy was trolling at first, but he's pretty dead set in his ways.

I've dabbled in BDSM, bondage, whips, and ties. That's only to spice things up once in awhile and let her know whose in charge.

I've never done anything as far as deep and Stack has....but everyone has their hobbies, needs, wants, and desires.

And some people enjoyed being used, being the user, and depraved.

PS. I don't think "trauma farming" is the best description to be use in the following:

Quote:

How old were you when you first lost your virginity? How old were you when someone touched you sexually? Who was it? What was your worst sexual experience? Has anyone ever made you do something sexually against your will? What do you hate about yourself? What are your fears?

Most of those questions I'd ask in a woman a bit after I knew her, with the exception of the against her will one. Most of the questions would come up in a regular plate or mini LTR anyways.

EDIT: Sometimes women volunteer some of this information.

I remember a case with a 18 year old who was super interested in me, telling me she was raped be a neighbor that she still sees in the neighborhood.

I had an old plate mention that her uncle had molested her also.

It's not like I'm rubbing hands together licking my lips when I get this information....

[Sourcecode]

Stack on is the owner of the website Efukt

[TravelerKai]

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

[TravelerKai]

(02-02-2015 06:40 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Stack on is the owner of the website Efukt

How do you know that?

[kmhour]

(02-02-2015 06:11 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

You haven't lived until you've pissed in the mouth of a self proclaimed feminist, made her swallow it, and then watched her sob and shake uncontrollably!

15 posts.

[stack-on]

Quote:

15 posts

Posting about the kinky shit I do on a thread titled "perverse pleasures" isn't trolling.

[Sourcecode]

(02-02-2015 06:48 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 06:40 PM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

Stack on is the owner of the website Efukt

How do you know that?

Have you ever been to that website?
Its full of crazy videos of stuff like that.
I just randomly, jokingly claim he must be part of it haha.


I guess, at the end of the day.. Im not specifically sadistic.
The datamining aspect..Is something I've alwayd done.. just to proble for information.
But i've never taken it to a level to really use it against anyone.

I don't think its strange to look a chick up though.
I build a profile *in my head* about a chick. based on the fino i know about her or can find on the internet to see how to game better.

[Sourcecode]

I wouldnt say its perverse at all.
But currently ive been trying to bang a bunch of weiro girls.
You know.. dyed hair, tattoos, borderline crazy chicks.
Pretty much the chicks with all the red flags.
They are usually into some pretty crazy stuff.. and I feel like experimenting.

[Comte De St. Germain]

Some of this pure disgusting others more in line with my thinking. Guess for me it's making a girl so dependent on your company that she texts you 50 times a day, consistently asks for your time/spends money on you, can't let go of your arm while in your company, and will try every cutesy thing in the book to have you notice her. Complete dominance and dependence emotionally is my biggest turn on when she hits that stage. It's a nuke waiting to happen when you cut it off but while it lasts it's great especially to the bitchiest girls initially.

[kmhour]

(02-02-2015 07:51 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

Posting about the kinky shit I do on a thread titled "perverse pleasures" isn't trolling.

A new account that has almost entirely posted in this thread, saying the kind of thing that outsiders love to quote in an attempt to bad mouth the forum.

[WestIndianArchie]

(02-02-2015 06:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

I've been tempted to start reading counseling, psychotherapy, and interrogation books. But that's a very deep rabbit hole, or hamster hole...

WIA

[MrXY]

(02-02-2015 05:01 PM)game_ethic Wrote:  

One of my perverse pleasures is banging a chick off of Tinder and not replying to her messages the following day. Getting flooded with messages saying "I'm the scum of the earth" and "I fucking hate you, you took advantage of me" is a story worth telling the boys. What makes it even more hilarious is that they block you right after.

It's all fun and games until you get a false rape allegation against you

[The Lizard of Oz]

(02-02-2015 06:11 PM)stack-on Wrote:  

Quote:

"Trauma farming". What a disgusting piece of cant.

The fact that your delicate sensibilities can't handle what I do reflects poorly on you, not me my friend. You haven't lived until you've pissed in the mouth of a self proclaimed feminist, made her swallow it, and then watched her sob and shake uncontrollably!

What I cannot stomach is the utter boredom, conventionality, and inspidity of these grim "BDSM" antics, and the fussily uninspired jargon that surrounds them.

It is no surprise that feminists and other dullards are drawn to this harshly impoverished world and its language. Whether it's a "safe space" or a "safe word", they have an unerring instinct for the most grating and joyless cant imaginable.

[Gunner]

(02-02-2015 06:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

Could you post a data-sheet with this info? I'm really interested and I'm sure a lot of members are too.

[Travesty]

(02-02-2015 08:51 PM)Gunner Wrote:  

(02-02-2015 06:47 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

I can co-sign on interrogation techniques. I am a huge fan of that. I build complete psychological profiles just like the CIA does, on every broad I dated or even just talked to, complete with MBTI type and other temperament analysis as well.

Women can and will very often give up alot of information. Alot of times the denials or refusals are done in a way to gives up lots of information.

It's also a very easy way to scare off a naturally flaky woman as well. Too many to count in that regard for myself... I have gotten very good at it over the years, but even the most skittish ones with high IQs know you are datamining them and flake on you, especially if you haven't given them alot or kissed their asses. It's always a time trade off. You can data mine anyone, but how much time do you have to invest in doing it covertly enough in correlation with her intrinsic value as a woman you have romance interests in?

All this other freaky shit, I cannot cosign on. I cannot believe I agreed completely with something Lizard has said.

Could you post a data-sheet with this info? I'm really interested and I'm sure a lot of members are too.

TK to short circuit all that expertise would you say that:

1) Compliance
2) Responsiveness to communication

Could be the two highest practical things in knowing if a woman is a bad apple or not?

Those seem to be the two I notice in girls I treat much better and start to care about. I never even think about a mini-LTR with a chick unless she meets those with flying colors.

[runsonmagic]

stack-on is my new favorite poster, and least favorite human being.