[WestIndianArchie]

(09-18-2014 07:43 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I disagree about breaking it off right away. You want to milk her for as much sex as you can. Start escalating more sexually. Doing dirtier and dirtier things until she loses it and flips out. You want her to lose her mind and break up with you. She'll trash you to everyone and you'll get some alpha street cred out of it.

I've tried this, it's easy to forgive and forget when she drains your balls.

Plus you set a precedent that she can get away with anything if she puts out. Watch that sex turn into the promise of sex.

And in my mind she's not really doing this intentionally or maliciously, but this is how she was built.

There's no comeuppance for these broads either. She can slide into a new relationship with the ex, abs then bounce to the next guy when she gets bored of the ex. Ride the carousel until she traps some guy without game. Pumps out a kid, divorces, gets child support, meanwhile her social network will support every action.

Red Pill

WIA

[Cattle Rustler]

Another question: what is the no contact method?

Is that when you just cut her off or you cut her off so she can chase you?

I'm drunk and having something similar, well not in the same topic (cheating) but rather letting a ho go. Might post in the Drun lounge later abt her.

(09-18-2014 05:54 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I can see the benefits of downgrading her to fuck buddy....but you're right, what will she do ?

What if you get the girl prego ? What if you catch an std from her ex she's probably fucking ? A lot comes to mind.

On the ball, as you mentioned...if you downgraded her to FB how would it be to catch something from another guy considering she was a slut in the first place. What if she tries to latch you on later?

Most importantly, she will know you are okay with her fucking other dudes. As much as it hurts and you may have liked her.....she dropped the bomb and things will never be the same no matter what.

(09-18-2014 06:46 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

She lied to you.

The reason she lied to you is because she couldn't pass up Kanye.
The reason he offered her a ticket was to try and fuck her.

She may or may have not fucked the Ex.

But she lied to you.

That's all you need to know.

There's no coming back from this, the trust is gone.

WIA

Yup, even if they return OP will have the idea stuck in his head if she's cheating on him while he's at school or work. The bomb dropped, things will never be the same even if she begged him for forgiveness.

No dude just invites a girl to a concern like that, dude had a plan.

If she lied to you about that, she will lie to you again in the future. Not to mention, imagine what else she might have lied to you about.....

(09-18-2014 07:10 PM)Texas_Tryhard Wrote:  

Don't go full-silent. Text her and tell her, "It's been fun but we're no longer dating." Don't do anything dramatic and don't explain why, that's shit a woman or a high-schooler does. Ignore any texts/calls/FB/drama/bullshit, your relationship is over, act like it. If she has the audacity to show up, tell her to leave. If she doesn't, tell her you will call the police. If she doesn't leave still, call the police.

The fact that you are worried that a girl will make a scene at your house is telling. You need to work on your abundance mentality and spend some time SINGLE meeting new women and relearning masculinity.

Do not get in another relationship for at least a year. During that year, work out like a fiend, eat right, learn new shit. Read "Bang" and "Day Bang", perform 100 approaches in the next year of both night and day game, report here if you feel inclined for critiques and encouragement. Good luck my man.

I agree with TTH, I was in one last year. Then I got a job and followed the above, focused on myself. Work killed me and kept me out of monogamy, bitches came for dick. Then I quit and got into a LTR this year. It's like running marathons and then suddenly sitting at home eating cheetos.

Focus on yourself. Keep yourself busy so you don't have time to think about her.

If she shows up, start recording. That way she can't make false accusations.

(09-18-2014 07:43 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I disagree about breaking it off right away. You want to milk her for as much sex as you can. Start escalating more sexually. Doing dirtier and dirtier things until she loses it and flips out. You want her to lose her mind and break up with you. She'll trash you to everyone and you'll get some alpha street cred out of it.

This. I try to do this and get one on the side ASAP because you won't know how long you will go without pussy until the next regular. Hate fuck her with all your anger, treat her like the slut that she is. That way when the relationship is over, you won't feel bad and you'll have poosy juice on your balls.

[Parlay44]

(09-18-2014 08:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 07:43 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I disagree about breaking it off right away. You want to milk her for as much sex as you can. Start escalating more sexually. Doing dirtier and dirtier things until she loses it and flips out. You want her to lose her mind and break up with you. She'll trash you to everyone and you'll get some alpha street cred out of it.

I've tried this, it's easy to forgive and forget when she drains your balls.

Ahh that's the real test of your fortitude isn't it?

I love your posts Archie. Always good stuff.

[AntiTrace]

(09-18-2014 08:36 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 08:17 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(09-18-2014 07:43 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I disagree about breaking it off right away. You want to milk her for as much sex as you can. Start escalating more sexually. Doing dirtier and dirtier things until she loses it and flips out. You want her to lose her mind and break up with you. She'll trash you to everyone and you'll get some alpha street cred out of it.

I've tried this, it's easy to forgive and forget when she drains your balls.

Ahh that's the real test of your fortitude isn't it?

I love your posts Archie. Always good stuff.

I agree with Parlay to an extent, but you can't get to the point where you are wanting the bullshit break up to happen.

You're emotionally invested in this girl. That's completely understand for a two year relationship and not something to be ashamed of. Your mind will rationalize her deceit away and you will eventually believe her.

But the fact is: she DITCHED you to hang out with an EX-BOYFRIEND simply because of a FREE concert ticket. What did that ticket cost? That number is your value. If she is going to ditch you for a $100 concert ticket, that is all you are worth to her.

Again, its not something to be ashamed about. Just understand where you stand in her life right now and act accordingly.

If you don't live with her, theres really no reason to break it off with her. Go back to game 101: one text to her three, radio silence for a day or two at times, hardcore sex focusing on your pleasure not hers, and get a sidepiece or two.

This will be hard at first, she has been your emotional and sexual drug. It's hard to wean yourself off that. The first few days of this are crucial, you will want to text and call and snapchat. Maintain your discipline, eventually it will become natural.

She has been your emotional drug. You have also been her emotional drug. Once you start pulling away, she will come back and with a greater desire. Just keep reminding yourself that she downgraded you to a mere $100 value. There is really no reason to give her more than that in return.

Just fuck the hell out her in Christian Grey style. Pick up a sidepiece. And wait for the meltdown, because it will come, but don't push for it or try to manipulate it to happen. Enjoy the pussy, but mentally downgrade her from GF status. When the meltdown happens, cut contact. Dont block her phone number or any of that shit, that just screams "I don't have enough self control" and eliminates the future booty call.

I speak from experience. I had a summer fling that had me borderline beta. It was an absolutely mindblowing experience. But I saw the red flags, and pulled back emotionally but not physically. I was literally in love with this girl, I got needy, she responsed like a female should. Pulling back was hard, but in the end it was exactly what was needed. I still have mindblowing sex with her from time to time, but she has been removed from the pedestal and she knows that.

Your relationship is in essence over. You're not going to marry her. So enjoy the easy sex and pursue other women. She is now your fuck buddy. Tell her what she wants to hear, do what you want to do.

[Americas]

I find it a bit strange that someone would have a girlfriend for 2 years but not be living together yet. But obviously there are lots of variables at play. I think for long term relationships that you are heavily involved in, moving in together is actually very recommended. This type of shit would not happen if you lived together.

That being said, she lied about going out with an ex to you. That's beyond repairable. It would be a different story if she had been totally upfront about it with you, but the fact that she lied about it means she was hiding it from you. Whether she actually cheated on you or not, you can bet she probably has or will in the future if this type of behaviour is typical. It also just shows a complete lack of respect.

I would end it personally.

[Parlay44]

Come on fellas. This is a "players' forum". Nice guys get hurt and end the relationship because that's what you're expected to do. Players "play" these girls out long term for sex. Why are you here if not to learn that

[bojangles]

He can play elsewhere by staying with her he's going to enhance his neediness and put more emotional value into the relationship. Dropping the bitch and improving himself is the best course of action.

[WesternCancer]

Start cooking her lots of unhealthy meals and encouraging her to watch Netflix and eat ice cream all day.

Praise her courage for becoming her most beautiful self. With supple, lard laden skin.

eventually she'll get so fat you can't keep the act up any more. Withhold affection and have her catch you jerking it to old photos of her...

[joker]

Yea I think Im gonna take Antitraces advice and keep on banging her but at the same time try and put myself out there into meeting new chicks and focusing soley on my development. But do you guys think its better for my game development that I end it completely and just deal with the emotional pain like every other bloke?

[lowside]

(09-18-2014 12:12 PM)joker Wrote:  

So my girlfriend of 2 years went to a Kanye West concert with her ex

i stopped reading right there.

her doing this, tells me you didn't set boundaries in time which is beta. now it's too late.

either break it off and move on. or start cheating on her and use her as a fuck buddy....if she doesn't leave you for her ex.

[BadWolf]

Why are there so many guys talking about 'fcuk buddies'... lets call it what it is 'STD possibilities'.

FWB doesn't exist... women want to get pregnant.

[AntiTrace]

(09-19-2014 08:42 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Why are there so many guys talking about 'fcuk buddies'... lets call it what it is 'STD possibilities'.

FWB doesn't exist... women want to get pregnant.

STD possibilities? Come on man....

FWBs don't exist? Come on man...

[Cr33pin]

(09-19-2014 08:42 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Why are there so many guys talking about 'fcuk buddies'... lets call it what it is 'STD possibilities'.

FWB doesn't exist... women want to get pregnant.

[Manipulator]

I feel for you. I have been there and I am no longer surprised with the shit women will do and rationalize as ok. That however opens up a door for you. You can get crazy with her and as you make it sound perfectly natural she will rationalize this and go along with it.

First thing you need to actively find another piece of ass. Even if this is only a virtual girlfriend on the Internet who will put on a dirty cam show for you do it.

Next tell this girl that every time she sees you she is going to suck your dick. Tell her that her job is to pleasure you sexually in any manner you wish. Let her know she will get hers as long as she is a good girl. Stop talking about the concert issue or anything that makes you look jealous. You can be jealous--just don't show it. Concentrate on fucking her face and whatever else. Take sex with her to the next level such as bondage and whatever weird stuff you fancy at the time. From here on out there are no limits to what you say and do.

Have fun with her and chase other prospects. You will be surprised how much more she will respect you and she will do whatever you want. Send her requests by texts for images and videos. Keep her slutty mind working for YOU and not these other guys. The game is yours to lose and no one else's.

Post some pics here. Ha!

Cheers
Manipulator

[samsamsam]

(09-19-2014 07:54 AM)joker Wrote:  

Yea I think Im gonna take Antitraces advice and keep on banging her but at the same time try and put myself out there into meeting new chicks and focusing soley on my development. But do you guys think its better for my game development that I end it completely and just deal with the emotional pain like every other bloke?

Respectfully, the guys throw out ideas but only you can have an idea if it will work for you. We are all different. The fact that you talk about "emotional pain like every other bloke" some guys (not saying me-I bet I would feel something after 2 years) wouldn't give two shits breaking up. Others (not here on RVF I hope) might do something drastic.

Be honest, do you think you can bang her and will yourself to get some pussy on the side? I am not doubting you, I don't know you. Only you have an idea.

Life is about living and trying. Sometimes we have set backs, sometimes victory. This is the journey. Good luck.

[AntiTrace]

(09-19-2014 07:54 AM)joker Wrote:  

Yea I think Im gonna take Antitraces advice and keep on banging her but at the same time try and put myself out there into meeting new chicks and focusing soley on my development. But do you guys think its better for my game development that I end it completely and just deal with the emotional pain like every other bloke?

Anytime you say those words, you should instantly re-evaluate things. Don't be like every other bloke.

You know what every other bloke is gonna do? He's going to blow up at her, have a meltdown, shes going to dump him, hes going to cry and start drinking heavily, hes gonna watch some sad movies and get depressed at songs he hears on the radio, it will be anywhere from 3-6 months or longer until he gets a new bang and starts to actually move on.

Don't be that guy. That doesn't help improve your game. That is essentially the easy way out, the "giving up" if you will. It would be a loss. Mentally demote her, keep banging her, and find a new sidepiece. Having a meltdown doesn't help your game, juggling multiple women does.

The first step is removing the emotional attachment you have, kicking out that pedestal that she is on. It's hard as hell man, I've been there and I know how hard it is. Keep us updated and we'll help as much as we can.

[cmrocks]

Going to a free concert with a male friend is one thing but going with an ex is a completely different ball game. In the first case, I still don't like it but I can accept it; especially if it's an old friend that was around before your relationship. In the case of going with an ex, completely inexcusable. In the past, I've hung around with girls that insist on remaining friends with their exes. They've never gone beyond fuck buddy status. It's just not right.

[kaotic]

(09-19-2014 07:01 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Come on fellas. This is a "players' forum". Nice guys get hurt and end the relationship because that's what you're expected to do. Players "play" these girls out long term for sex. Why are you here if not to learn that

I see your reasoning, I'd just be worried about std/prego deal. Here's my biggest pet peeve - if he does this, he's telling her it's okay for her to fuck around and still be able to bang him. He should be teaching her the consequences of her sketchyness and lying by completely removing himself from the equation. I hope she gets burned and learns a lesson of not to fuck around. We should not be feeing these girls ego's at all.

(09-19-2014 08:42 AM)BadWolf Wrote:  

Why are there so many guys talking about 'fcuk buddies'... lets call it what it is 'STD possibilities'.

FWB doesn't exist... women want to get pregnant.

Come on man, with the proper items used both are preventable.

(09-19-2014 11:43 AM)cmrocks Wrote:  

Going to a free concert with a male friend is one thing but going with an ex is a completely different ball game. In the first case, I still don't like it but I can accept it; especially if it's an old friend that was around before your relationship. In the case of going with an ex, completely inexcusable. In the past, I've hung around with girls that insist on remaining friends with their exes. They've never gone beyond fuck buddy status. It's just not right.

No, it's the same thing to me, my girl saying she's going to a concert with some dude (or an ex) alone that ISN'T ME is going to raise red flags.

If you're accepting of the first case, you might want to reevaluate her and yourself. An old friend is a beta orbiter, personally I won't put up with a girl im dating remaining "friends" with her ex, if she insists on remaining friends, then I insist on leaving, plain and simple.

[Baphomet]

Based on your description of the problem, I'm not sure that you are in the correct frame of emotional mind to continue being with this girl without getting sucked back into the relationship.

Antitrace is correct in his assessment of her valuation of you. You are not worth more than a free concert. And, you are not worth more than her own desire to prove that she is not worthless in the eyes of a guy who ghosted her.

I would suggest that you simply rid yourself of her rather than trying to engage in any sexual/relationship game. As others have said, she's a drug. You don't quit heroin by setting up your works and filling the syringe.

Deal with it straight on and without emotion. I know that will be VERY difficult.

Go to her place, and calmly tell her that you are ending the relationship. Tell her that HER disrespect of you and of the relationship itself made this the only reasonable choice. If she stupidly asks "what disrespect", tell her that spending time with ex-boyfriends is unacceptable behavior.

She will likely try and engage in a debate about this. Perhaps she'll apologize for her actions, perhaps she'll try to play it all off as nothing, perhaps she'll get mad and demand YOU apologize for accusing her. It doesn't matter what she says.

NO MATTER WHAT SHE DOES - No apologies, no physical contact, no emotion from you. This is a simple, immutable action.

Tell her that whatever the case may be, that the relationship is over, and that there should be no reason for her to contact you. Say goodbye, and leave.

This will take 5 minutes - MAX. It may be among the more difficult 5 minutes of your life, but they will build a strong frame for you.

Good luck. Whatever you decide report back here please.

[kinjutsu]

What i wrote originally for the OP was written with respect to his game skill level and inner game/self-esteem.

I get what everyone else is saying regarding using the girl for all the dark sexual shit you want, but if he has no control of his feelings towards her then how is he going to maintain frame and not get sucked back into her frame and use sex as a weapon against him.

The advice i gave earlier will probably work because it doesn't require him to have air tight game and maintain a solid frame when all he wants to do is call her out in her deception.
Those 2 years with her are lost and unrecoverable. At this stage in his player life his best strategy is reflection on all the warning signs he's missed over the past 2 years.

We all can take a guess that she's done shady shit before this is just the 1st time he's knowing about it. For all we know she's the one that could've initiated contact with the ex-bf and they could've been fucking over the past few months and now she doesn't want to hide to go see him.

[bojangles]

(09-19-2014 02:20 PM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

What i wrote originally for the OP was written with respect to his game skill level and inner game/self-esteem.

I get what everyone else is saying regarding using the girl for all the dark sexual shit you want, but if he has no control of his feelings towards her then how is he going to maintain frame and not get sucked back into her frame and use sex as a weapon against him.

The advice i gave earlier will probably work because it doesn't require him to have air tight game and maintain a solid frame when all he wants to do is call her out in her deception.
Those 2 years with her are lost and unrecoverable. At this stage in his player life his best strategy is reflection on all the warning signs he's missed over the past 2 years.

We all can take a guess that she's done shady shit before this is just the 1st time he's knowing about it. For all we know she's the one that could've initiated contact with the ex-bf and they could've been fucking over the past few months and now she doesn't want to hide to go see him.

I agree, he shouldnt keep her in his life as his frame is not strong.

[joker]

She asked me to sleep over the other night the convo went like this:

Her: Do u wana sleep over sat night? (Thursday)
Her: Have you fallen off the face of the planet? (Friday 8ish pm)
Me: Ill be over at 8 pimp (Friday 11ish)
Her: Im going clubbing with my sister and family friend tomorrow, Sunday?
Me: Nah
Her: When did you want to sleep over next week?
Me: Ill let you know

This was my text exchange with her. I still havent decided whether to go but what are your guys thoughts on this

[BadWolf]

STD waiting to happen.

Sounds like fun, swimming your seacucumber around in some other man's sloppy spooge fest. You have to be really hard up to keep girls like this in your life, you are risking a pregnancy/std with a total zero just to get your d1ck wet. Dude, spend the extra money and get yourself a REAL DOLL, there is simply no excuse for what you are doing. She disrespected you, basically desecrated your sacred ground, I bet while she was banging him they had a good laugh at your expense... and you are considering going out with her again?

I don't understand why men will risk life and limb to put their d1ck to a ho.


Her: Do u wana sleep over sat night? (Thursday)
Her: Have you fallen off the face of the planet? (Friday 8ish pm)
Me: Only if you sleep on the floor dawg. (Foreverish)
Her: Im going clubbing with my sister and family (exboy)friend tomorrow, Sunday?
Me: Don't contact me again. All of your behavior reeks of anal disrespect and the level is over 9000. I'll be in the Philippines clubbing my buns off with girls that put your ugly ass to shame. Tell your ex he can have you back. I'm moving up in the world.
Her: When did you want to sleep over next week?
Me: Does never sound like a good time? How about when hell freezes over or when pigs fly? Oh that reminds me, how is your family?

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For all we know she's the one that could've initiated contact with the ex-bf and they could've been fucking over the past few months and now she doesn't want to hide to go see him.

The way the OP is acting, I would bet money she initiated it. Op your self respect needs to override sex. Why isn't anyone going abroad to meet women instead of wallowing in the sh1t with the pigs. Imagine you were married with a couple kids at home and she did this... you'd be on the warpath.

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my girlfriend of 2 years went to a Kanye West concert with her ex

I'm sure their bodies didn't touch at all, it was probably all soda pop and sweet nothings. I guarantee they didn't kiss because, why would they? She's already seen and sucked his d1ck loads of times before right? No this was just a free concert that both of them attended. Think about it, if he respected you, he wouldn't have gone. If she respected you, she wouldn't have gone. Neither of them respect you, they think you're nothing but a Joke®. Well baby its time to throw down some sh1t pies.

[Apologies, I was cheated on in almost the exact same way with my ex]

My ex now has this video on her facebook page and she's gotten considerably more ugly, older and she's still single... dude believe me, revenge is so sweet.

[Cr33pin]

(09-19-2014 08:30 PM)BadWolf Wrote:  

STD waiting to happen.

[joker]

Ill report back in a few weeks and let you guys know whats happened