Quote: (09-01-2018 02:08 PM)doc holliday Wrote:
California will survive due to the weather and allure of a once existent culture but it will be a very different California and a much harder place for sane, reasonable people to live. Lord knows I could never live there.
No offense but I feel the same way about the idea of living in Chicago or Illinois.
But native Californians see a different California then guys looking in from the outside. And you can say the same about me talking about Chicago, or a native New Yorker in regards to New York. The locals will always have a different understanding and view of the dynamics of their home than someone who isn't from there.
And I think a lot of opinion about California on this forum is from guys who have only traveled or lived in LA or San Fran and therefore base their opinions on the entire state based on their experiences in those two cities.
Or they've never really been to California and only get the more sensational news stuff or hear the uber rich squeeky wheels like the odious Tom Steyer and Robb Reiner who think they know what's best for world as they live in luxury in their palatial homes.
But opinions saying that Cailfornia has no middle class, or is overrun by low IQ Mexicans is cherry picking on certain areas and certain factors.
It's the equivalent of me going to NYC and using the extreme income inequalities of Manhattan and Brooklyn to argue that there's no middle class in the City, or using Brownsville, East New York and most of Queens as examples to make an argument that the city is being taken over by low IQ brown and Asian peoples.
But those examples conveniently ignore Long Island, Connecticut and the good parts of Jersey like Bayonne, Wayne and Montclair, where you find the middle and upper working classes (and high IQ whites for the demographics crowd). They don't live in the city for reasons that are both obvious and not so obvious.
And it's the same for California and for LA. Guys think there's no middle class in LA and it's all third world because Downtown/Central LA, South LA and the Valley have poor, low IQ brown people and they're right on that.
But they're conveniently leaving out places like Thousand Oaks, Simi Valley, Valencia, Calabasas, Westlake, Chatsworth, Northridge, Santa Clarita-or places further south and east like Brea, Walnut, Diamond Bar, Eastvale, Chino Hills, Corona, Placentia, Tustin, Irvine, Anaheim Hills, Norco and Murrietta, Menifee, Temecula and Riverside, where you can find the missing Los Angeles middle class and where you can find the Southern California middle class life that guys argue disappeared.
And for guys who think California is some Mexican shithole, I urge you to spend a day hanging out in San Clemente and then driving down to Encinitas and Carlsbad and then come back and let us know if California is the third world shithole you think it is.
California does have a lot of problems at the local and state government levels, and I can spend a very long post talking about it.
Basically California has developed a really really bad "swamp" culture, and a lack of legal enforcement and consequences has turned California, and most of its cities, into a "pay for play" paradise.
So a culture of corruption, mixed with a one political party rule, has created a situation where ridiculous legislation like plastic straw bans and women on corporate boards gets passed, because there's no one to challenge it and Democrats are reluctant to call it out, because the California Democratic Party is run by a bunch of fucktards who will blackball their own members and refuse to help them get re-elected if they don't keep their heads down and shut up.
And of course the fucktards in charge are limosine liberals who truly believe that their voters actually care about plastic straw bans or women on corporate boards than they do taxes, education and safety.
Of course that's changing, and the California Democratic Party has been on the verge of implosion for a few years now and the only thing that's kept that from happening is the emergence of Trump, who has given them a figure to come together and rally against for the time being. But it's only a matter of time before they fall apart.