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All MMA fighters are crazy. You have to be to even bother getting in a cage. Even I have my moments. Marines and football players love talking with me all the time because they feel like I can understand them. It's as if we are masochist and enjoy pain. I'm pretty sure my wife finds my love affair with fighting attractive and I try to tone it down as much as I can to just teaching and coaching instead of actually fighting, but I still want to fight all the time. Everytime some MMA fighter or football player loses his fucking mind I feel like I just died inside a little bit. I have a personal/family connection to a NFL player who committed suicide and that hit me pretty hard at the time. When I think back at all the small and big concussions I have had, all the knees to the face, the hard hooks, the jabs, the crosses, it scares the shit outta me. I have had a few PTSD nightmares before. There are times I feel really vulnerable and helpless as if I am waiting for a death sentence. I try explaining it to my wife, but it feels useless. She just tells me she loves me and will always stand by me. That feels good for a minute, but deep down it's not enough for me to feel comfort in that.

I lost my temper super badly back when I was with my exwife and that experience has calmed me down tremendously. I feel like I have great control now, but as I get older, I really wonder given the issues with CTE/Brain Trauma. Taking a class in anger management and buying a few good books on anger has helped me tremendously. Even a few friends asked me about my books because they noticed a difference in me, I guess I used to really run hot, but never noticed it much.

I wish there was just a solid lesson about maturity or some other age old wisdom, but considering how little we know about the human brain and these patterns of violence it may not be that simple.

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Quote: (08-12-2014 02:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I've touched on this before but a lot of dudes get this whole "Alpha" thing twisted. Most men aren't built like it and hard wired for it. Most men are just real men but rugged Alpha dudes have no qualms in smacking you or a broad upside the head. They really don't care. Most top level alphas are head cases and raging bulls. They go through life taking what is theres and leaving a trail of carnage behind them and you either accept it or you don't.

What most manosphere guys call "alpha" are just thug types with no impulse control. Sure they get pussy through brute force, but they also usually have criminal rap sheets that are pretty long, low paying jobs, constant drama, and a lot of other bullshit most of us probably don't want to deal with. I saw plenty of them when I did criminal work. It's foolish to idolize some loser who had a couple of mentally ill American women (redundant) obsessed with him.

While I don't see anything wrong with slapping a bitch when she gets out of pocket, he literally beat the shit out of this bitch in a way that should be saved for another guy who is trying to rob you or kill you.
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#78

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I want to change my RVF user name to
WhoreMachine

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Quote: (08-13-2014 09:47 PM)Vitriol Wrote:  

Quote: (08-12-2014 02:34 PM)kosko Wrote:  

I've touched on this before but a lot of dudes get this whole "Alpha" thing twisted. Most men aren't built like it and hard wired for it. Most men are just real men but rugged Alpha dudes have no qualms in smacking you or a broad upside the head. They really don't care. Most top level alphas are head cases and raging bulls. They go through life taking what is theres and leaving a trail of carnage behind them and you either accept it or you don't.

What most manosphere guys call "alpha" are just thug types with no impulse control. Sure they get pussy through brute force, but they also usually have criminal rap sheets that are pretty long, low paying jobs, constant drama, and a lot of other bullshit most of us probably don't want to deal with. I saw plenty of them when I did criminal work. It's foolish to idolize some loser who had a couple of mentally ill American women (redundant) obsessed with him.

While I don't see anything wrong with slapping a bitch when she gets out of pocket, he literally beat the shit out of this bitch in a way that should be saved for another guy who is trying to rob you or kill you.

Yes, out of control cavemen with no impulse control are strangely appealing to women because they are overtly masculine (alpha), the same way that a porn star with fake tits is strangely appealing to men because they are overtly feminine (sluts). They pass the boner test but are so ruled by their impulses that they don't make good partners...but there are plenty of guys and girls who don't realize that.

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Once he's in prison he should change his shirt from "I do alpha male shit" to "Alpha males do me in the shitter"
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Official police report:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/17/602...risty-mack

The next thing Mackinday recalled was being on the bathroom floor, naked and Koppenhaver continued to hit her in the face. Mackinday recalled Koppenhaver punched and kicked her in the left leg while she was in the fetal position on the ground. Mackinday further recalled being on "all fours" by the shower and Koppenhaver kicked her in the ribs. Mackinday described Koppenhaver broke several of her teeth while punching her.
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Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

The first thing is that I do believe we have a soul of some sort.

I believe it because I feel it to be so.

Fair enough.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We're expected to restrain our baser urges. Man does not like these restrictions. But without them, there is only chaos, not civilization.

Interesting point!

I think I was underestimating the value of "civilization".

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Maybe this is what he needed to bring himself under control.

That's good.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

The purpose of education and socialization is to implant some sort of moral code in us, so that we don't kill, rape, attack, or steal.

Damn! That's deep!

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Only those who know the meaning of suffering can really understand this.

You are a deep dude!


Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I know that the only thing that separates me from some unfortunate who I have to visit in jail is one chance of Fate. That is the truth.

I'm repping you right now.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

That's why I believe in the saying, "There but for the Grace of God go I." Which means, I could have been in the other guy's shoes. And I judge a man not by where he is, but by how far he came.

[Image: icon_worship.gif]

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We have to take some control over our own Fate.

That is for damn sure!

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

The one thing I would like to say also is that I don't think this man (War Machine) is a man to be admired.

I agree.

However, I will admit that I do admire his fighting ability.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Being an alpha male to me is someone who is an exemplar among his peers, a leader of men, a paragon of masculinity, a "demigod" in the classic sense.

I thought "alpha male" just meant the "dominant" male in any given group?

But, I don't really care about the definition.

That is just semantics.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Just because aggression is at the core of the male identity, doesn't mean that it should be expressed as open violence. These forces need to be channeled into productive uses.

Another awesome sentence.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We have to learn how to build canals to channel our baser urges, so we can harness them to our own productive ends. If we don't do this, we descend into barbarism.

Beautiful.

Quote: (08-12-2014 08:58 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Being without a soul, that is the worse thing in the world.

Why is that "the worst thing in the world"?

Just curious to hear your answer..

Thanks and awesome post.

Worthy of a rep point from me.

Edit:

I already gave you a rep point.

All I can give you now is a thank you for making me become aware of things that I was previously unaware of.

Thanks!
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Quote: (08-18-2014 11:44 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

Official police report:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/8/17/602...risty-mack

The next thing Mackinday recalled was being on the bathroom floor, naked and Koppenhaver continued to hit her in the face. Mackinday recalled Koppenhaver punched and kicked her in the left leg while she was in the fetal position on the ground. Mackinday further recalled being on "all fours" by the shower and Koppenhaver kicked her in the ribs. Mackinday described Koppenhaver broke several of her teeth while punching her.

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"The fighting continued for approximately 10 minutes and Koppenhaver eventually released Thomas from the choke hold. Thomas was bleeding 'profusely' from his face and Koppenhaver had Thomas's blood on his shirt. Koppenhaver told Thomas to leave and told Thomas that he would kill him if he reported this and Koppenhaver went to jail. Koppenhaver said he would give his friends all of Thomas's information and his friends would find Thomas and kill him if anything happened to Koppenhaver

Does an animal like that have real friends? If your insane, I find it hard to believe you have friends. People you threaten I guess, but people who would hurt others for you out of friendship - when you were the one inflicting the damage in the first place? Because I am sure they all want to go to prison and hang out with War Machine in prison.

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Quote: (08-19-2014 12:25 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Does an animal like that have real friends?

Who really knows what his friendships are like?

I can say this..

I know a few guys who have beaten up their girlfriends.

They all had friends.

I personally don't find it very hard to believe that a guy who beats up his girlfriend could also have friends.

I have slapped two girls in my life and that never stopped me from making friends.

Quote: (08-19-2014 12:25 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

If your insane, I find it hard to believe you have friends.

We don't know that he is insane.

Insanity doesn't seem likely due to the fact that mma fighters get regularly checked out by doctors and if he was deemed to be insane, he would not be allowed to fight.

There are rules to fighting mma and if he was able to follow these rules for years on end, it's unlikely that he is/was insane.

I could be wrong but a more likely cause of his violence is lack of impulse control, drugs, and/or jealous rage.

"Temporary insanity" is a legal term that I think is just another way to describe "losing ones temper".

Of course, it is possible that he recently succumbed to insanity. (I doubt it)

We will have to wait a few years to really know the answer.

Also, many serial killers live normal lives and have friends and family.
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@Giovonny:

OK, Brother Giovonny, we continue our metaphysical discussion. (Isn't it great?)

So you've asked me why I think that "losing one's soul" is the worst thing in the world.

I should clarify what I mean by that. I am trying to say that each of us has an inner spirit, or life force, or ka, or whatever you want to call it. The ancient Egyptians called it "ka."

The Romans believed that each of us had a "guardian spirit" which they called a genius. (The word has nothing to do with the English word "genius"). The Latin word genius meant: the male spirit of your ancestry or clan, and it was the divine or spiritual part of each individual. And if you lost that genius, or guardian spirit, you were in a world of hurt.

If we live our lives in ways that extremely self-destructive, if we thumb our noses at all that is good and decent for long enough time, then we become bad. We lose our inner spirit. We are abandoned by our genius. We throw away our patrimony.

I suppose you could call me superstitious. And maybe that's a fair assessment. But these ideas are found in almost every culture that I've ever heard of.

The point is: if you reject the good spirit, then you embrace the evil one. There is no middle ground. If there is a good genius, then there is a bad one. One leads us to the fields of Elysium. The other sends us straight to Hades.

So much for these matters. I suppose you have to feel these things by emotion, and not analyze them rationally.

But getting back to War Machine: I think this guy is just a sensualist and a confused person who let his emotions rule him, rather than the other way around. A man has to control himself, not let himself be controlled by his raging passions. This was his mistake. I think he will benefit from some training in self-discipline. For whatever reason in his background, he must have been suffering from some sort of inner turmoil.

Very, very few people (maybe none) are inherently evil. They just don't know how to control their instincts. They let their emotions control them. With no impulse control, they get themselves into big troubles. It's a matter of training, environment, and habit.

But the good news is that there is hope for us all. All of us can change his destiny. Nothing is written in stone. So there is hope for all of us, even me.
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Quote: (08-19-2014 12:42 AM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-19-2014 12:25 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

If your insane, I find it hard to believe you have friends.

We don't know that he is insane.

I acknowledge I was being a bit loose with my word choice. But there is a possibility that he is unstable. And delusional based on the belief that his friends would commit murder for him. With no evidence to support my next claim, I will make it any way. I doubt it was temporary insanity. He may claim that in his defense, but I am sensing he generally walks around with a warped view of the world. I think those with poor emotional control tend be like this.

Edit: Just saw QC's comment.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

But getting back to War Machine: I think this guy is just a sensualist and a confused person who let his emotions rule him, rather than the other way around. A man has to control himself, not let himself be controlled by his raging passions. This was his mistake. I think he will benefit from some training in self-discipline. For whatever reason in his background, he must have been suffering from some sort of inner turmoil.

Very, very few people (maybe none) are inherently evil. They just don't know how to control their instincts. They let their emotions control them. With no impulse control, they get themselves into big troubles. It's a matter of training, environment, and habit.

Spot on.

Fate whispers to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm." And the warrior whispers back, "I am the storm."

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Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

OK, Brother Giovonny, we continue our metaphysical discussion. (Isn't it great?)

It is great. (Though, I might describe our discussion as "physical" rather than "metaphysical")

It's ironic that I enjoy your perspective even though I disagree with some of it.

For example..

You say that the worst thing in the world is to:

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

lose our inner spirit.

I don't even know what this means?

I'm not convinced that there is any such thing as an "inner spirit".

I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. I'm just saying that I haven't seen much evidence of it.

Many successful and well adjusted people do not believe in the concept of "spirits'. On the other hand, many successful people do believe in "spirits".

I don't know?

For me, the worst thing in the world would probably be seeing my family get tortured.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

We throw away our patrimony.

This is also ironic.

I purposely threw away my "patrimony".

I had shitty parents and much of what they taught me was counter productive.

I did not want to continue on the path they laid out for me.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

But getting back to War Machine:

I think he will benefit from some training in self-discipline.

Absoluetly!

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Very, very few people (maybe none) are inherently evil.

Yes, I don't believe anyone is evil.

There is no evidence that suggests "evil" exists.

There is plenty of evidence that proves human beings can be mean, cruel, and barbaric.

But, there is no evidence that suggests this human cruelty is caused by a supernatural force.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

this guy is just a sensualist

A "sensualist" is someone devoted to sensual pleasures.

This man was devoted to fighting.

Fighting brings pain.

So, because of that, I would not call him a "sensualist".

If he was a porn star, I would call him a "sensualist".

I also don't have enough information about his sexual habits to be able to make a judgement on this.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

he must have been suffering from some sort of inner turmoil.

Certainly.

Quote: (08-19-2014 01:27 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

All of us can change his destiny.

I pray this is true.

In my experience, I believe that it is true.

At least for those of us that live in a free society.
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@Gio:

I'll give the spiritual stuff a rest, because basically it all comes down to belief. Some guys believe in it, some don't, and that's fine. Whatever works, I say.

You'd be surprised how popular this sort of thing is in Brazil these days. I have one friend down there who is really into some of this esoteric "spirit world" stuff. He may be on to something. You just never know...

Anyway, about the whole "patrimony"...here again, I intended to use this word in an abstract sense. I meant "patrimony" as our civilization, morals, and values inherited from our ancestors. I meant the cultural heritage of our ancestors. I did not mean it in the limited sense of one's biological father. So, here again, I can see how important it is to define one's terms. Words can so easily be misconstrued.

Like you, I also consciously rejected things about my immediate relatives that I didn't think were right. So I understand that. But at the same time, I am a product of the culture in which I live and in which I grew up. The culture and the civilization makes us, to a large extent. We do have some free will, of course.

As for this guy being a sensualist, again, I meant that in a general sense. I didn't mean he was an effete hedonist. He's not a hedonist, I don't think. But by "sensualist" I think he enjoys sensory experiences. And he lives for his arousal. A man can be a fighter, and at the same time be a sensualist. I don't see any contradiction there. In fact, getting punched and kicked is a form of sensory stimulation that some people feel satisfaction from. Remember Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull? He was also a sensualist.

His face also betrays him. Sensualist types have thick lips, and rounded hairlines above their foreheads. I think we can say a lot about a person by their face.

So, those are some of my thoughts. If you want them.
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@ Giovanny: He actually WAS a porn star at one point lol. I believe the first time he ended up in jail it was due to him beating up multiple people at some porn girl's party that he had been invited to.

I've actually been following this guy since his appearance on The Ultimate Fighter. I wish I had saved some of the Myspace bulletins he would post up (yeah that's how long ago it was) since I'm sure reading through them now knowing all the stuff he's done since then would be quite enlightening. He definitely is the sort of guy that lives for extreme experiences. His original plan prior to going down the MMA fighter path was to become a Navy Seal. He was enrolled in the Citadel with the hopes to eventually achieve that dream but life threw a wrench into that when his mom took his tuition money and spent it on drugs (she became an addict after the death of War Machine's father) which led to all his credits being frozen and him being unable to continue with school.

He's also spoken about that if MMA doesn't work out and he's unable to make a living by owning a gym and teaching he was going to waste himself since he wouldn't be able to stand having a 9 to 5 job with some boss hovering over him.

Relevant interviews:

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Quote: (08-19-2014 03:25 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

@Gio:

I'll give the spiritual stuff a rest, because basically it all comes down to belief.

I don't mind you talking about "spirituality".

I just like to ask you WHY you believe what you believe.

If you say -- "It's just something that I feel".

That is good enough for me.

I can't disprove or prove the existence of "spirits".

I just say -- "I don't know"

Quote: (08-19-2014 03:25 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I have one friend down there who is really into some of this esoteric "spirit world" stuff.

I would love to hear more about this..

What exactly is he in to?

Quote: (08-19-2014 03:25 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I meant "patrimony" as our civilization, morals, and values inherited from our ancestors.

Weren't many of our ancestors uncivilized?

Much of the behavior of my ancestors would now be considered "uncivilized" (human sacrifice, slavery, rape, murder, etc}

Morals are a very recent human invention, right?

My point is that often times, we must change the direction of our culture.

The values that our ancestors lived by may or may not be beneficial today.

I choose to think differently than my parent. They had a unhealthy worldview.

I also choose to think differently than my grandparents. Their strategies are sometimes out dated. (That said, I have learned a lot from them also)

I don't think throwing away one "patrimony" is always a bad thing.

I see it as a necessary part of evolution and human progress.

Quote: (08-19-2014 03:25 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

by "sensualist" I think he enjoys sensory experiences.

Don't we all enjoy sensory experiences?

Good food, good music, good sex, good art, pretty girls, etc.

"Sensory experience" is how we experience the physical world.

Can't we call anyone who enjoys good food, good music, sex, and art a "sensualist"?

Quote: (08-19-2014 03:25 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Remember Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull? He was also a sensualist.

Why was Jake LaMotta a "sensualist".

Because he got pleasure from physical combat?

If that's case, couldn't we say that anyone who gets physical pleasure from anything is a "sensualist"?

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Quote: (08-19-2014 04:19 PM)Wutang Wrote:  

@ Giovanny: He actually WAS a porn star at one point

What should we infer from this fact?
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I mentioned the porn star bit in response to this part of your previous post:

"A "sensualist" is someone devoted to sensual pleasures.

This man was devoted to fighting.

Fighting brings pain.

So, because of that, I would not call him a "sensualist".

If he was a porn star, I would call him a "sensualist".

I also don't have enough information about his sexual habits to be able to make a judgement on this.
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And yeah this guy is a total horndog. He was calling himself "Whore Machine" lol. Also if you read his twitter he was constantly talking about being horny all the time and getting "pow pow" (his euphemism for sex)
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@Giovonny:

As always your ripostes are razor-sharp. We ought to have a talk show together...or maybe a dialogue as a next ROK article. [Image: whip.gif]

1. About the Brazilian friend who's into the spiritualism: I wrote about him in a ROK piece a while back. Here is the link:

http://www.returnofkings.com/33266/a-bra...s-changing

Basically, he explores what is called "theurgy" which is the use of incantations (and, very rarely, even hallucinogens) to probe into the spiritual realm. I personally am not into this sort of thing, but this guy is very intelligent, successful, educated, and ripped dude, and for that I can't dismiss his ideas so easily.

Like I said, I am not really into this sort of thing, but I do read widely on mystical and philosophical subjects, because those things interest me.

2. Jake LaMotta's sensualism.

I do think we can call LaMotta a "sensualist" in some crude way. Yes, he was a brute also. Does every boxer or fighter "get off" on being pounded? No. I'm not saying this.

I am only trying to point out, Brother Gio, that the boundary between pleasure and pain is a fine one. That much is true.

Some people glory in their agonies, and derive a secret satisfaction in their misery. There were many scenes in "Raging Bull" where Jake seemed to actually enjoy getting pounded. Remember the scenes with his brother in the kitchen, with the towel wrapped around his hand, telling him to hit him? Remember the scenes with Sugar Ray?

You never got me down, Ray. You never got me down...


The point I'm trying to make is: there is always an unconscious subcurrent that runs beneath our feet. It's always the things hidden beneath the surface that really matter. What we say drives us, and what really drives us, are usually different.

3. And now for our continuing debate over patrimony. My point here is this:

I'm not so sure that we can shed our skins as easily as we think we can. I think we have free will to some extent, but that genetics and environment secretly influence us more than we care to admit. Our opinions of nearly everything are usually influenced by factors that took place long before us.

The present, Gio, is only one big snowball that has achieved its size by rolling up the past.

The unconscious is more powerful than our conscious impulses. Don't value reason and rationality too much. Emotion, intuition, fatalism, and fervor are just as powerful. Maybe more so. Reason justifies whatever the heart desires.

The biggest mistake the 18th century Enlightenment thinkers made, and the biggest mistake the Stoics made, was to underappreciate emotion, passion, love, and irrational feeling. These things drive the world. I want to know what makes the world tick.

Tick, tock, tick, tock...

The motor of the world hums along, powered by a profoundly irrational fuel.

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Just some quotes from those videos.

"I'm a warrior"
"I belong in the big shows"
"I'm the real deal"
"I'm not a scrub"
"That money should be in my pocket"
"I don't like being around humans" [Image: lol.gif]

At least he doesn't talk about himself in 3rd person.

But for some reason, I don't know why, he isn't a really likeable person and hopefully he enjoys prison (I know I am jumping to conclusions).

Fate whispers to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm." And the warrior whispers back, "I am the storm."

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Quote: (08-19-2014 11:34 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

@Giovonny:

As always your ripostes are razor-sharp. We ought to have a talk show together...or maybe a dialogue as a next ROK article. [Image: whip.gif]

1. About the Brazilian friend who's into the spiritualism: I wrote about him in a ROK piece a while back. Here is the link:

http://www.returnofkings.com/33266/a-bra...s-changing

Basically, he explores what is called "theurgy" which is the use of incantations (and, very rarely, even hallucinogens) to probe into the spiritual realm. I personally am not into this sort of thing, but this guy is very intelligent, successful, educated, and ripped dude, and for that I can't dismiss his ideas so easily.

Like I said, I am not really into this sort of thing, but I do read widely on mystical and philosophical subjects, because those things interest me.

2. Jake LaMotta's sensualism.

I do think we can call LaMotta a "sensualist" in some crude way. Yes, he was a brute also. Does every boxer or fighter "get off" on being pounded? No. I'm not saying this.

I am only trying to point out, Brother Gio, that the boundary between pleasure and pain is a fine one. That much is true.

Some people glory in their agonies, and derive a secret satisfaction in their misery. There were many scenes in "Raging Bull" where Jake seemed to actually enjoy getting pounded. Remember the scenes with his brother in the kitchen, with the towel wrapped around his hand, telling him to hit him? Remember the scenes with Sugar Ray?

You never got me down, Ray. You never got me down...


The point I'm trying to make is: there is always an unconscious subcurrent that runs beneath our feet. It's always the things hidden beneath the surface that really matter. What we say drives us, and what really drives us, are usually different.

3. And now for our continuing debate over patrimony. My point here is this:

I'm not so sure that we can shed our skins as easily as we think we can. I think we have free will to some extent, but that genetics and environment secretly influence us more than we care to admit. Our opinions of nearly everything are usually influenced by factors that took place long before us.

The present, Gio, is only one big snowball that has achieved its size by rolling up the past.

The unconscious is more powerful than our conscious impulses. Don't value reason and rationality too much. Emotion, intuition, fatalism, and fervor are just as powerful. Maybe more so. Reason justifies whatever the heart desires.

The biggest mistake the 18th century Enlightenment thinkers made, and the biggest mistake the Stoics made, was to underappreciate emotion, passion, love, and irrational feeling. These things drive the world. I want to know what makes the world tick.

Tick, tock, tick, tock...

The motor of the world hums along, powered by a profoundly irrational fuel.

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Quintus Curtius
,

Thank you for writing this!

It's funny, I disagree with much of what you say... But, you still inspire me to open my mind, open my heart and become a better man!

Because of your writings, I have a new found appreciation for "civilization" and the evolution of man.

Cheers and thanks!
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Nothing on Christy Mack v. War Machine? (NWSF)

@Giovonny:

Thank you also, Giovonny, since for this I am doubly gratified.

So plausibly urged on by you, I was forced to examine my own thoughts, and to clarify what was not clear. We cannot go wrong if we strive for the truths behind things.
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#97

Nothing on Christy Mack v. War Machine? (NWSF)

Can someone explain to me why the fuck this dude was dating a hoe? With his status he could've done so much better...
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#98

Nothing on Christy Mack v. War Machine? (NWSF)

War machine tried to hang himself. Why would he want to do that? Perhaps because he will have no life after this is done?

http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/16/war-machin...las-vegas/
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Nothing on Christy Mack v. War Machine? (NWSF)

Quote: (08-11-2014 07:16 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

Well this is what she said happened

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/11/599...e-attack-i

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I believed I was going to die. He has beaten me many times before, but never this badly.

I don't even need to read the rest. she's a stupid bitch, but has someone said before, you cannot expect much from a pornstar.
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War Machine suicide attempt, but he also called in for help, so it doesn't sound serious:

But that little comment of his is truly mind-boggling at least from Red Pill perspective:

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Koppenhaver has said that he’d gone to surprise his ex-girlfriend with a ring when he found her with another man.

I only wish that man hadn’t been there and that Christy & I would be happily engaged,” he posted on Twitter in August. “I don’t know y I’m so cursed. One day truth will come out.”

http://ktla.com/2014/10/17/mma-fighter-w...eport-says


Yeah - if only she had fucked the guy before he came home, then he would have been engaged and all would be fine. For fuck's sake she is a porn star and when the bar to sex is as low as that, she will fuck whoever she wants - the crew members, visitors at the set, random guys anywhere. If you cannot deal with that, then don't get attached to her.
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