Quote: (06-26-2014 08:20 PM)scorpion Wrote:
Cultures and societies go through cyclical shifts, swinging back and forth like a pendulum. The vast and destructive leftward swing wrought by progressivism is currently nearing its terminal reach, at which point it will swing backwards equally far to the right. Since traditional Christianity has been all but destroyed while Islam is ascendent, it seems likely that conservative Islam will move in to fill the gap.
I hope I am wrong about this this. But I don't see any way to reverse the long term trend, with the exception of a miraculous (and I mean it would literally have to be a miracle) new Great Awakening of Christianity in the West, a fundamentalist Christianity which rejects modernity and progressivism and which could rival Islam in both its religious fervor and reproductive potential (aka 6+ kids per woman). Failing that, Western Civilization as we know it will not live out the century. It will die from cultural AIDS and its carcass will either rot or be devoured by Islam.
I completely agree with everything you've said except for the prognosis.
Western Civilization aka white civilization will shrink, but it will not die out completely. Far from it.
Fact is, white Civilization has been through
much worse than what we have today.
There are 200 million whites in America. Even if we lose half of white America by the end of the century, that's still 100 million whites, more whites than any other point of history. Same deal with Europe. White population levels are still at all time highs.
What is going to happen is a great culling of the white race. Every now and then an organism becomes big and strong, but gets complacent with his success. This invites lots of attackers to come and feast on his weakness. Who will survive the chaos? These survivors will be the ones who rebuild the next white civilization.
The story of Rome is the story of the white race. From humble beginnings and virtue, arose a powerful state that crushed all enemies and took over most of the world. Once at the top, the people became more focused on improving their lives relative to other citizens and stopped caring about each other.
When Rome fell apart in the 4th century, the decline had been preceded by nearly three centuries of hedonism, greed, and corruption. Rome had amassed huge stockpiles of wealth, but Rome became less interested in stopping invaders as they were in controlling their citizens through endless laws and taxes. Most Roman citizens saw children as a burden and dedicated themselves to public office, mercantilism, or the military as a means to advance rank.
Roman women in particular were trash - just like modern American women. Seen as whores and sluts, no-fault divorce was rampant.
Roman numbers declined, barbarian numbers increased, the empire grew weak and was crushed by uncivilized masses. Interestingly enough, one of the last Emperors of Western Rome was a non-White emperor, who was extremely incompetent and actually presided in Italy while Rome was sacked. He cowardly moved to another city before the sacking. This Emperor was
Honorius. You can tell he was a mixed breed from his diptych:
The modern parallels to Obama are pretty striking, as Obama is the mixed-race Emperor currently presiding over the irreversible destruction of the American empire. Like the saying goes, there is nothing new under the sun.
But the above about Rome's death isn't the point of this post. This story you all know. Let's talk about the story you don't know.
From 500-1000 AD, the western Roman empire was competed for heavily by various factions - first the visigoths, then the eastern Roman empire briefly regained control, then the franks under the Holy Roman Empire. All of these wars were far more harmful than good and depleted the white race of it's members. The endless wars, plus the bubonic plague, made most of former white territory extremely vulnerable to Islam, a brand new warrior religion that came about in the 8th century.
Islam went through all of Africa, and as Alexandria was being sieged defense forces from Constantinople were famously
kept in the capital due to various political reasons while the city fell to Muslims:
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It is said that Heraclius, the Byzantine emperor, collected a large army at Constantinople. He intended to march at the head of these reinforcements personally to Alexandria. But before he could finalize the arrangements, he died. The troops mustered at Constantinople dispersed, and consequently no help came to Alexandria.
After the Byzantines (who were, remember, just the Romans of the eastern Empire) lost Alexandria the rest of North Africa was easy pickings, and even Spain fell as well.
So the white world had once covered the entire Mediterranean, but by 1000 AD the only white parts of the Mediterranean were confined to Italy, Greece, and present-day Turkey.
And as much of a loss had been incurred, that was just the start!
From 1000 AD to 1500 AD was even more death and destruction for the white race.
The Byzantine empire, which had managed to hold back huge Islamic invasions of 200K+, had been growing weak and weary. They had also been mismanaged by shitty, evil emperors, and much of Eastern turkey had fallen to Islamic invasions.
As a result, a call was made into barbarian Europe, which had been thoroughly Christianized by the Catholics, for military aid. This is how the first crusade began.
And although the first crusade had been successful in pushing back Islamic forces, the successes were short lived because the root problems of white decline were unaddressed: insufficient fertility, lack of justice for its citizens which inhibited family growth, etc.
So although the white race managed to push back, the attempts were feeble and misguided. The failures of the crusades became fully apparent by the fourth crusade, in 1202, which ended up with a a betrayal and sack of the largest white city in the world, of Constantinople. And it was done by other fellow Christians! The destruction of the fourth crusade was so great that the Byzantine empire never recovered, and to compound the misery later that century the Mongol invasions poured into both Eastern Europe, Turkey, and the Middle East.
In 1452, the destruction of the western civilization in the middle east was complete after Constantinople fell to the Turks. Constantinople, once the greatest city in the world, home to the white Christian empire, became ruled by the mongrel Turks and renamed to Istanbul. From Istanbul rose the Ottoman empire, and this empire would rule over all of the Islamic world up until WW1.
Now here's where this history lesson concludes.
Imagine had you been a regular white guy, in a place like France or England, during the events of 1400's.
You'd have seen utter destruction of virtually all frontier white Christian lands. You'd have seen mass poverty, plague, and despotism. The only real positive development was the reconquista of Spain from Islamic rule into Christian rule. Other than that, you'd probably be pretty despondent, and hopeless for the future. The only parts of the white world were confined to England, France, the Nordic countries, Prussia, Italy, and just recently Spain. What is known as present day Russia was still home to the golden horde. Probably the entire white world at this point was confined to an area of land no bigger than California. Things weren't looking so hot for the white man.
And yet what actually happened?
Because the Turks were Islamic, and Islamic rule states that only Muslims may trade with other Muslims without suffering huge tariffs, the spice trade to the orient was priced out of Europe.
So in 1492, Columbus sailed the Ocean blue in search of cheaper spice trade routes. And he accidentally discovered America.
And so the death of the old world created the birth of the new world. Just as Jesus had been sacrificed to save the sins of man, Constantinople was sacrificed for the sins of the white race.
The white survivors of nearly 1000 years of territory decline, wars, famines, tyrants, and plagues, were some of the meanest, most racist, opportunistic men on the planet. In short, nature herself selected the whites who would go forth and colonize the world because these were the ones who could withstand incredible pressure from extremely hostile forces.
The Indians really stood no chance, because the Indians never had to deal with bubonic plague, Muslim invasions, Mongol invasions, or power-hungry monarchs. Whites had guns, ships, and highly advanced agriculture that was necessary to survive in the perpetual war zone known as Europe.
Once the whites had access to two continents, these tough as fuck survivors of the Ancient Roman empire were able to repopulate and reshape the world in their image. From 1500 AD to 1900 AD has been one of the greatest times in history for the white race. It's undisputable.
But now, with decadence fully priced into the future, it's obvious that the white race is due for more hard times ahead. Will it survive? Will this race finally fade into obscurity? Who knows? However, if history is of any use, then we shouldn't be surprised, or dismayed, at a prolonged period of white decline. It's happened for nearly 1000 years prior to the current period, and the total number of whites probably never amounted over 4-5 million.
Today there are close to half a billion whites. So, I think nature knows it's time for some good ole fashioned culling. The weak whites - the feminists, the manginas, the race-traitors, the marxists, the progressives, the atheists, and others - are just excess that the white race knows it needs to get rid of. So for the next 100-200 years I fully expect with this problem to be dealt with.
I don't believe in human free will as a major force shaping the world. Group selection makes far more sense to me. Humans are social animals, like ants, and generally what we believe to be individual desires are nothing more than the forces of our social collective exerting its will over us.
This is the story of the white race you will never learn in school.