[Lucario]

Been here for just under 2 months.

Australia is hard, way way harder than I could have imagined.

You can get 26-30 numbers over 2 weeks and all but one will flake. And that one date you need super tight game.

Being a tanned Latino makes it harder.

You still get the added problem of IRTs cock blocking you in bars because they think you are Indian, so I stay away from them unless venue has cover charge and stick to daygame.

Been approaching Asians.

[Biologist]

(09-06-2014 09:50 AM)Lucario Wrote:  

Been here for just under 2 months.

Australia is hard, way way harder than I could have imagined.

You can get 26-30 numbers over 2 weeks and all but one will flake. And that one date you need super tight game.

Being a tanned Latino makes it harder.

You still get the added problem of IRTs cock blocking you in bars because they think you are Indian, so I stay away from them unless venue has cover charge and stick to daygame.

Been approaching Asians.

I'm not surprised by this.

For your information, check out this thread for some recent talk about Australia:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-39157.html

[Phoenix]

1) I'll assume by the question that you mean 'to get chicks'. I lived in Australia for a long time, and to generalize, 'big loud cocky and stupid' is both the cultural norm for men, and what women are most attracted to. So keep that in mind in how you present yourself.

The highest status male in Australia is the professional sportsman. The most attractive profession (other than famous sportsmen) to the female population is usually 'tradies' (tradesmen: carpenters etc), rather than the traditional 'doctors & lawyers' stereotype. If you are a sportsman, or work in a trade, mention it.

You say you are tall, so that is good, but be sure to get as muscular as possible. If you have tattoos, that is good too. Be careful when you are opening or talking to women to not accidently use big words or say anything that could be interpreted as intelligent, as it will lower your value or even be mocked. Clubs tend to have very bad ratios, except in cities and clubs where the bouncers control ratios (in these places get in early).

2) I wouldn't recommend visiting an Australian city. There is nothing they have that you can't get better elsewhere and at a cheaper price. Most people visit to say 'I've been to Australia', but in my opinion, the only good reason to visit would be to enjoy the countryside and it's unique offerings.

[Rang off the Pipe]

(09-06-2014 11:06 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I lived in Australia for a long time, and to generalize, 'big loud cocky and stupid' is both the cultural norm for men, and what women are most attracted to. So keep that in mind in how you present yourself.

I'm amazed at anyone who can come close to pulling that image off artificially. For me, it feels quite degrading to stoop to that kind of image, but I suppose that's why enough people here criticize the anglo countries.

[amazoncrime]

So I actually just returned from Australia a few days back and I plan to post more detailed info on the experience.

Lucario, whereabouts are you doing your approaches? I don't pursue Asians typically, but there are certainly lots to be had in the cities if that's your target demo. Are you working for volume/quantity, or quality? Seems like a bit of work for flakiness is all.

As far as aesthetics, I've got height and broad shoulders, fit but not built per se. I can turn on the arrogance/ignorance but it's counter-intuitive to my vibe. I was approached and engaged by females a fair bit although this was happening in places besides Sydney. The girls with the most interest and less attitude were more intrigued by someone bringing something different to the table which I think was more indicative of relative value in the particular setting. Aussie males seemed physically larger than Americans, but I wasn't seeing too many guys who were in phenomenal shape, but then again it's winter and I was not on a beach.

[Lucario]

(09-06-2014 04:03 PM)amazoncrime Wrote:  

Lucario, whereabouts are you doing your approaches? I don't pursue Asians typically, but there are certainly lots to be had in the cities if that's your target demo. Are you working for volume/quantity, or quality? Seems like a bit of work for flakiness is all.

Doing approaches in Melb CBD, but also approach on the train on the way home and bars .

going for white MILFs aswell.

Going mainly for quantity since this is the kind of country I have to lower standards.
Will have to bang a few chubbies at some point knowing my sex drive, haha.

I think high volume is the way to go.
It is hard to make more days to approach between uni + work.
I only get one day in the week to approach.
So I try to spend 4 hours in that one day to approach like 100+ girls. It is very draining.

When I do approach's for white girls in the city, for every 200 people, only one chick is bangable.

Going for Asians now since being darker latino, I worked out that non-whites will struggle with attracting white girls unless I have some sort of niche that the girl can relate to + less hot white girls than hot Asian girls.

[Vroom]

(09-06-2014 11:06 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

1) I'll assume by the question that you mean 'to get chicks'. I lived in Australia for a long time, and to generalize, 'big loud cocky and stupid' is both the cultural norm for men, and what women are most attracted to. So keep that in mind in how you present yourself.

Do NOT do this. You will never beat Australians at their own game.

What you want is something to set you apart from the masses.
2 examples which have done well for me are a) dressing well, and b) dancing.

Aussies are generally too macho to bother chucking on anything better than jeans, and the closest thing to 'dancing' you can expect from them is swaying with a beer in their hand.

[Deluge]

(09-09-2014 05:04 AM)Lucario Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 04:03 PM)amazoncrime Wrote:  

Lucario, whereabouts are you doing your approaches? I don't pursue Asians typically, but there are certainly lots to be had in the cities if that's your target demo. Are you working for volume/quantity, or quality? Seems like a bit of work for flakiness is all.

Doing approaches in Melb CBD, but also approach on the train on the way home and bars .

going for white MILFs.

Going mainly for quality since this is the kind of country I have to lower standards. I think high volume is the way to go, problem is that very hard to make more days to approach.

When I do approach's for white girls in the city, for every 200 people, only one chick is bangable.

Going for Asians now since being darker latino, I worked out that non-whites will struggle with attracting white girls unless I have some sort of niche that the girl can relate to + less hot white girls than hot Asian girls.

I don't know what you're on about, Australians have positive stereotypes of Latin guys. I thought you were Italian, girls love Romance language accents. I know a very tanned dude from Colombia who does very well here despite being short. That would not be true if he was a local white dude with no accent. Your easily better off being from a Latin country then a local white guy if you have an accent. Even the 3rd generation Southern European guys here bang more and hotter girls on average then Anglo guys do, because they have stronger game and are more likely to lift. I'm non-white, most of my results come from white girls and my highest ROI's are from certain types of white girls. I even find white girls easier than asians, although I don't go for FOB's. Hell, Australian girls have a reputation overseas for liking Black guys, you really think they care you're a tanned Latin guy? Most white girls in Melbourne will have fucked an ethnic Mediterranean guy at one point or another, they're about 15% of the population, and almost none of those guys have the "sexy" accents. Seems to me like your rationalizing your lack of success onto your ethnicity. It's completely untrue and a straight up bitch mindset. It actually boggles my mind a dude from Italy is saying this. Whatever you're smoking, I want a hit.

(09-09-2014 05:15 AM)Vroom Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:06 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

1) I'll assume by the question that you mean 'to get chicks'. I lived in Australia for a long time, and to generalize, 'big loud cocky and stupid' is both the cultural norm for men, and what women are most attracted to. So keep that in mind in how you present yourself.

Do NOT do this.

Co-sign.

[Cyclone]

(06-09-2014 04:44 AM)Capt. James Cook Wrote:  

I think Alex from RSD said melbourne is the 'clickiest' centre of the world, everyone has their own groups and everyone stays to them.

He also told me personally that Perth is the best city to pickup girls. Not sure how much I trust that, other than hearing that it does have the hottest girls.
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[Deluge]

(09-09-2014 05:56 AM)Cyclone Wrote:  

(06-09-2014 04:44 AM)Capt. James Cook Wrote:  

I think Alex from RSD said melbourne is the 'clickiest' centre of the world, everyone has their own groups and everyone stays to them.

He also told me personally that Perth is the best city to pickup girls. Not sure how much I trust that, other than hearing that it does have the hottest girls.
.

As an aside, I asked Alex once which venues he approached in Melbourne when he lived there briefly. I remember thinking the places he mentioned where places I'd never game in, and places where hot young girls would not be caught dead in. I like him a lot, but I was amazed how a guy who runs bootcamps could go to such shit venues. I found out recently that Todd tells his bootcamp students to decide together on which venues they're going too. Remember most of the guys who take these bootcamps are newbies. Now it all makes sense.

[Cyclone]

(09-09-2014 06:13 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 05:56 AM)Cyclone Wrote:  

He also told me personally that Perth is the best city to pickup girls. Not sure how much I trust that, other than hearing that it does have the hottest girls.
.

I remember thinking the places he mentioned where places I'd never game in, and places where hot young girls would not be caught dead in. I like him a lot, but I was amazed how a guy who runs bootcamps could go to such shit venues. I found out recently that Todd tells his bootcamp students to decide together on which venues they're going too.

a) if Alex takes them to venues with mediocre-looking girls, of course their game will be good and their chances of pulling are higher to make it look successful
b) if Todd lets his students decide on the venue, and they fail, he can just blame it on their choice of venue.

Still, I want to hear more about Perth. Mainly since that's where all the $$'s at
.

[Phoenix]

Perth is also where all the mining-money-chasing dudes are FIFOing back to (with the exception of one clever dude I knew who FIFOed WA to Bali).

I doubt there is commensurate number of girls going out there. Sounds like a recipe for a sausage-fest.

[DogsBreakfast]

Go to alice springs if you want easy lays

[Deluge]

(09-09-2014 07:59 AM)DogsBreakfast Wrote:  

Go to alice springs if you want easy lays

With a 3?

[Vroom]

(09-09-2014 08:09 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(09-09-2014 07:59 AM)DogsBreakfast Wrote:  

Go to alice springs if you want easy lays

With a 3?

3 is being a bit generous.

If you really wanted an abo flag it might be worth a look, but I'd steer well clear of Alice, and any small town if I could help it. I spend enough time in country town shitholes to know there's only a handful of attractive girls in each town, and hundreds of blokes. They don't stay attractive for long with those odds.

[Agastya]

I'm curious, has anyone on the forum hooked up with an Aboriginal girl? Are any of them attractive whatsoever? I've heard that the white mixes are attractive, but I find it hard to picture a full-blooded Aborigine that would be attractive.

[Vroom]

(09-09-2014 10:32 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

I'm curious, has anyone on the forum hooked up with an Aboriginal girl? Are any of them attractive whatsoever? I've heard that the white mixes are attractive, but I find it hard to picture a full-blooded Aborigine that would be attractive.

The only ones you might find attractive are the ones with so little aboriginal blood, that you can't recognise them as aboriginal by looking at them. Unfortunately even those who are 15/16 non-abo are extremely low class, even by australian standards.

[SlipStream]

Fire up Tinder and off you go. Thank me later.

[Deluge]

(09-09-2014 10:32 PM)Agastya Wrote:  

I'm curious, has anyone on the forum hooked up with an Aboriginal girl? Are any of them attractive whatsoever? I've heard that the white mixes are attractive, but I find it hard to picture a full-blooded Aborigine that would be attractive.

Most Aboriginals are already mixed to some degree. Just over half of Aboriginals today will marry a non-Aboriginal. Attractive full-blood aboriginals are unicorns. It's similar for the indigenous peoples in Latin America you'll find in say Bolivia.

[Agastya]

How are they viewed in Australia? Any aboriginal players out there? Anyone ever closed an aboriginal girl?

I'm suddenly fascinated by these people.

[Deluge]

(09-10-2014 03:53 AM)Agastya Wrote:  

How are they viewed in Australia? Any aboriginal players out there? Anyone ever closed an aboriginal girl?

I'm suddenly fascinated by these people.

Most Aboriginals live far away from the big cities where everyone lives, keep in mind outside the cities the country is pretty empty especially inland. I've lived here all my life and I don't know a single Aboriginal personally. Out of 1000 or so people on my Facebook not one is Aboriginal. The people I've met who grew up in places with a lot of them like the Northern Territory and northern Queensland had pretty dim, even plain racist views of them, despite having positive views of immigrant ethnic groups. Institutional discrimination is still a thing in outback Aboriginal communities.

[jumbo tron]

Yes, not many in the southern state that you would clearly recognize as fuller blood.
I think that is why there is more sympathy and bleeding hearts for them compared to the views held up North and west.

I heard an extreme view once while living up North. He said that if anyone says they like them has never really dealt with them ( in a sufficient sample size).

Unfortunately I cant categorically disagree with this comment. I know I'm full of bias and generalisations, it is true for me that I did not have many pleasant experiences with them, but I acknowledge it was an urban environment full of white trash as well.

But its a wider social problem than my slice of experience and by far am I an expert.

Looks wise, yeah I've encountered a couple of fuller blood Aboriginal girls who were quiet curvy and cute.....but then they opened their mouths, see the 4 kids in various forms of dress and the tracksuit wearing criminal defacto boyfriend and you slap yourself out of that little fantasy. But they were definitely cute enough if you met them in a bar or something.

[Vroom]

(09-10-2014 04:51 AM)Deluge Wrote:  

(09-10-2014 03:53 AM)Agastya Wrote:  

How are they viewed in Australia? Any aboriginal players out there? Anyone ever closed an aboriginal girl?

I'm suddenly fascinated by these people.

Most Aboriginals live far away from the big cities where everyone lives, keep in mind outside the cities the country is pretty empty especially inland. I've lived here all my life and I don't know a single Aboriginal personally. Out of 1000 or so people on my Facebook not one is Aboriginal. The people I've met who grew up in places with a lot of them like the Northern Territory and northern Queensland had pretty dim, even plain racist views of them, despite having positive views of immigrant ethnic groups. Institutional discrimination is still a thing in outback Aboriginal communities.

I spend a lot of time travelling through the outback for work, and trust me, you might think it's "racist" but if anything, it's understated.

I don't want to give too much real talk, but consider this:

In one country town I've had the misfortune of working in, the pub is bare concrete, with a few stools bolted to the ground. Anything more gets stolen, used as a weapon, or destroyed by the aborigines.

Drinks are purchased by depositing money through a slot in thick steel bars, where it slides straight into a bucket of warm soapy water. Turns it the reason for this is that aboriginal women stash their money inside themselves to hide it from their men who, if they knew the woman has money, beat the shit out of them for it and blow it all on piss in an instant.

City aborigines can be OK, but as you get more remote, the behaviour becomes more like a curiosity. It's a different world out there.

[Deluge]

(09-10-2014 05:20 AM)Vroom Wrote:  

City aborigines can be OK

The only experience people in Melbourne have with Aboriginals is getting asked for spare change.

(09-10-2014 05:20 AM)Vroom Wrote:  

Drinks are purchased by depositing money through a slot in thick steel bars, where it slides straight into a bucket of warm soapy water. Turns it the reason for this is that aboriginal women stash their money inside themselves to hide it from their men who, if they knew the woman has money, beat the shit out of them for it and blow it all on piss in an instant.

I've heard some crazy stories before, but this tops the cake. Holy shit.

[tonipepperoni]

If you're 6ft+ and look something resembling this... then you should practice RSD game in clubs.

If not, you should do the following:
1) Book a hostel in a Base/Nomads/Aquarius(?) backpacker location in a place like Byron Bay
There you will meet the most depraved English girls who have no qualms about giving you blowjobs in shared toilets.

2) Target asian FOBS
A fairly slow paced and unsatisfying game. Kissing them is effectively putting your tongue in a fishbowl -- to quote a friend "It's like kissing fish"

3) Target European exchange students/backpackers
Your results will ultimately depend on how fresh these girls are. If you're lucky to have met one within the first week then you're in for some decent sex, otherwise you might experience a clogged up kebab eating hedonist who's face has been sandpapered by rough sex on the beach with a hardbodied surfer, and a physique which resembles that of a penguin.

4) For latin guys. Whatever notions of Latino lover fantasy in Australia is mostly false. I have scores of italians/greek friends in Australia who are handsome but predominantly stick to their own women or euro-ethnics citing that "Aussie girls only like surfers mate".

I also worked as a promoter with 2 good looking + gamey Brazilian guys who had a year of residency in Sydney and were baffled at Australian women giving them zero attention. They mostly stuck to other internationals.