[C-Note]

(08-16-2016 09:45 AM)BlackFriar Wrote:  

Hey...I know I did not explain the whole situation at first. I just do dumb crap like that a lot.

I just wondered if people were placed in situations where they should do the ethical thing, am I the only bastard that would say fuck it. I am going to rob other people's cookie jars? Just to say I did it?

(Rick Flair Wooo)

On that question, I would say you shouldn't bang the wife of a guy that you know. Even if he is a push-over and not your friend. Too much drama can result.

[Alpha_Romeo]

If her husband is a beta schlub, as you say, perhaps she's asked you to come along for flirty validation.

[kaotic]

(08-16-2016 09:45 AM)BlackFriar Wrote:  

Hey...I know I did not explain the whole situation at first. I just do dumb crap like that a lot.

I just wondered if people were placed in situations where they should do the ethical thing, am I the only bastard that would say fuck it. I am going to rob other people's cookie jars? Just to say I did it?

(Rick Flair Wooo)

If you think a friends wife is going to give it up to you AROUND her other girlfriends then you've learned nothing.

Women don't want to be perceived as sluts, homewreckers, or whores.

Especially in front of other women.

You're nothing but a cabana boy for them on vacation, you aren't going to have some fuck fest with all of them.

You're their toy, their validation, their tool.

[WestIndianArchie]

(08-16-2016 01:39 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 09:45 AM)BlackFriar Wrote:  

Hey...I know I did not explain the whole situation at first. I just do dumb crap like that a lot.

I just wondered if people were placed in situations where they should do the ethical thing, am I the only bastard that would say fuck it. I am going to rob other people's cookie jars? Just to say I did it?

(Rick Flair Wooo)

If you think a friends wife is going to give it up to you AROUND her other girlfriends then you've learned nothing.

Women don't want to be perceived as sluts, homewreckers, or whores.

Especially in front of other women.

You're nothing but a cabana boy for them on vacation, you aren't going to have some fuck fest with all of them.

You're their toy, their validation, their tool.

The way the situation reads, the only thing getting stroked is this woman's ego...

But

I am wondering how one could turn it into a fuck fest.

What would need to happen to let the "tigers" out?

Alcohol? Weed? Molly? Blow?

If OP clearly banged a hotter younger chick, while the rest were site seeing?

It's not like these things don't occur, but it's usually young chicks + drugs + party atmosphere where there are no consequences. (Or old fugly people going to Jamaica for Hedonism...)

WIA

[Cobra]

I think you know this but if they ask you to do something with them, your ratio of "no" answers to "yes" answers should be high. Pick wisely.

[XPQ22]

(08-16-2016 01:51 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

I got the impression that OP was going to go to a neighboring country within Europe, not fly to Europe. Like a weekend in France from Germany.

Gosh, going to France from Germany is probably about the same distance I have to drive in the US to hit up any good night game venues every weekend!

[BlackFriar]

2 hour boat ride

[kaotic]

(08-16-2016 06:26 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

The way the situation reads, the only thing getting stroked is this woman's ego...

But

I am wondering how one could turn it into a fuck fest.

What would need to happen to let the "tigers" out?

Alcohol? Weed? Molly? Blow?

If OP clearly banged a hotter younger chick, while the rest were site seeing?

It's not like these things don't occur, but it's usually young chicks + drugs + party atmosphere where there are no consequences. (Or old fugly people going to Jamaica for Hedonism...)

WIA

In my experience it's always a combination of hot young girls, blow, and booze.

When there's hot girls plenty of booze is flowing and the blow eventually comes out later (secret society). Especially with blow and banging friends, it's never talked about, it's just that you were fucked up and had a good time.

Not many older/wall females are doing blow and booze or can go hard as those younger girls can.

I hardly ever see older girls making out with other girls, other than at the river.

[C-Note]

(08-17-2016 12:08 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(08-16-2016 06:26 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

The way the situation reads, the only thing getting stroked is this woman's ego...

But

I am wondering how one could turn it into a fuck fest.

What would need to happen to let the "tigers" out?

Alcohol? Weed? Molly? Blow?

If OP clearly banged a hotter younger chick, while the rest were site seeing?

It's not like these things don't occur, but it's usually young chicks + drugs + party atmosphere where there are no consequences. (Or old fugly people going to Jamaica for Hedonism...)

WIA

In my experience it's always a combination of hot young girls, blow, and booze.

When there's hot girls plenty of booze is flowing and the blow eventually comes out later (secret society). Especially with blow and banging friends, it's never talked about, it's just that you were fucked up and had a good time.

Not many older/wall females are doing blow and booze or can go hard as those younger girls can.

I hardly ever see older girls making out with other girls, other than at the river.

Yes, I think one of the problems with this situation is that it's harder to get older women into making out with each other, losing control, "I'll try anything once" mode. But, as WIA said, it probably is possible. You just have to figure out the right angle.

I read a translated article from a Japanese weekly that interviewed a Japanese surfer in some small seaside town who said that he once befriended a group of eight middle-aged, affluent Japanese women domestic tourists and ended up fucking all eight of them the same night. The article may have been bullshit, but if not, it shows that it is possible sometimes to get older women into the right groove to give it up like that in front of their friends.

[WestIndianArchie]

@C-Note and Kaotic

There's a spring break in Vegas chick inside of every woman. (A useful fiction I tell myself)

But you just need the right stimulus.

Like a players version of the Stanford Prison experiment.

It's Friday!

WIA

[Easy_Mode]

So, you think these women are just going to pass you around? They see you as zero threat.

[BlackFriar]

Wife and the husband are not having sex and arguing. Wife is getting high blood pressure from work and family.

She asked me if I was going to try and "hook up" with any one when we go on the trip.

I did not respond to her question. I told her to try and exercise or find things to help her relax.

Since I never wrote this before. We are going in December.

[Gorgiass]

You've got three months of drama and a broken marriage to put up with for the payoff of getting friendzoned by a group of over the hill 6s? Jesus man. I mean, good luck and everything but...kill me now.

[Beirut]

Its weird to make weekend plans so early no?

Anyway, i dont complicate things like this. If theres attractive women i go.

[eradicator]

It's September and you are making weekend plans about a weekend in December? What the fuck



I'd game women in your more immediate day to day vicinity rather than who you are going to try to bang in 3 months.

EDIT
To turn this into a fuck fest, here is what would have to happen: you are out on your trip and you pull a younger and hotter girl the first night, you take her home and fuck her and the girls in the adjacent rooms can hear you fucking her, and at some point they see her leave in the morning or later that night, and they all know see the quality of ass that you pull. Then on the second night you can take your pick of whichever girl from your group is hottest, but I mean, why bother, if you can probably go out and pull a much hotter chick on your own anyways the second night, what would you rather have, 3 sixes or one 8? Or some combination of the above?(2 sixes as well as banging the 8)

[Leonard D Neubache]

My initial thought was that the OP should flip the script.

It's a cruise so options are a little more limited, but if one were to bother going at all then then one might consider this.

Flaking on them throughout the cruise while hitting on other women in their peripheral vision could work their blood up a bit. You'd have the perfect excuse to be in their vicinity while ignoring them, since you're on a frigging cruise. Infer after day two that you've slept with someone on the boat even if you haven't. Then when the opportunity presents itself you separate the thirstiest one of these gals from the herd and build the idea that the two of you should engage in some sort tryst that you both should keep a secret of from other chicks (ie build perceived SMV and then create an idea that she can get your notch without being seen as a slut by her friends). Meanwhile if the plan didn't yield results you could still just game other women on the boat.

That said, I have no idea what running game on a cruise ship is like. My best guess is that those events are mostly filled with seniors so pickings might be slim.

P.S. Props as usual to WIA. It seems like that son of a bitch plays the game on hard mode just for the fun of it (or maybe to keep his shit wired tight).

[BlackFriar]

;')

[eradicator]

A weekend cruise? a 3 hour cruise? What the fuck once again.

Why on earth are you agreeing to this? Unless the ship docks somewhere good on each night and you can go to Amsterdam, London, Paris, or some other Euro town with plenty of hot women each night, egad, this sounds like a nightmare, you are trapped on a ship with a lot of really old women.

[Leonard D Neubache]

^Agreed. Without details this could be a slow boat to hell. I assumed that since the women mentioned were likely looking to hook up with other passengers that there had to be some meat at the table in general.

[TMK]

Firstly, agreed with many others, going out with the girls is not all it's cracked up to be. The one certain benefit will be social proof or pre-selection (to other chicks).

Also, I had a very brief 'fling' with a married woman recently. I say fling, it was more like one afternoon of drinks, a bit of kissing and her hounding me on social media.

In this limited experience, and similar to that of others I know, it's genuinely more hassle than it's worth. This woman in particular was waving all the normal red flags which is why I aborted before it was too late:

-Excessive messaging owing to being a bored, kept housewife, expecting replies 24/7
-Limited social circle and life
-Husband 'didn't fck her right any more'
-Young son
-Almost complete disregard for fallout on to family
-Very liberal upbringing, resulting entitled behaviour and parents pretty much in an open relationship from day one
-Avoiding commitment to sex
-Still messages me to this day, even though I ignore her

Long story short, why invite potential hassle in to your life when there are single women everywhere. Sure, there's a bit of a buzz because of the sordid nature of the thing, but that soon wears off if they become needy and/or you have even an ounce of moral fibre. Equally, another guy I know had seven shades of sh!t kicked out of him (by three guys) when the husband found out.

It's certainly true that now I have other valid options again, the above situation seems a ridiculous consideration.