[BlackFriar]

I have friends in Europe and I made the suggestion to go on a quick trip for the weekend to another country nearby for the holidays.

The wife replied on social media yes, her and her women coworkers were all going for a weekend and she said I should come too.

She is late thirties, but still attractive. But I think I can bang a couple of her friends (ugly or not) for the flag count.

Have any other members done something like this?

It seems like shootn fish in a barrel.

[OneEyedMonk]

500+ views so far and nobody with a heart to pop your bubble, so I will with a sharp needle:

A gangbang with a group of hotties, fighting over your cock, this will be.....NOT.

But the wife of your friend surely knows what your imagination tells you and welcomes that, such that you sign up for this mission. It's called manipulation. "Beta bait" to be precise. "Sucka" is the title of your role.

Instead of replaying scenes from your fav dirty movies, you will be rather buying drinks, listening to endless complains about neglect by men, and holding their handbags while one after another escapes to the ladies room to re-plaster their old, sad, sagging faces.

On return, these ladies will hold you in high esteem, calling you a "really nice guy". Hey, at least you get something out of it, if that's what you want.

Nah, I doubt any member has done something like that, and if yes, he is now hiding in shame under a big RVF rock, or has been sent into the purgatory of a lifelong ban, unable to report of his shameful deed.

[Barron]

(08-12-2016 07:34 PM)BlackFriar Wrote:  

I have friends in Europe and I made the suggestion to go on a quick trip for the weekend to another country nearby for the holidays.

The wife replied on social media yes, her and her women coworkers were all going for a weekend and she said I should come too.

She is late thirties, but still attractive. But I think I can bang a couple of her friends (ugly or not) for the flag count.

Have any other members done something like this?

It seems like shootn fish in a barrel.

[nmmoooreland20]

Drugs could help move this situation along

[BlackFriar]

Phenibut?

[Gorgiass]

Rohypnol.

I keep, I keed.

Don't do it.

[Brodiaga]

It's a bad idea to travel with them even if you will get laid. Most likely you won't.

[RatInTheWoods]

The Monk to the Friar, much wisdom dispensed.

[BlackFriar]

;')

[Disco_Volante]

When women invite you along in that manner, you are a tool. Used for comfort, affirmation, and to validate their ego. They view you as a disposable sucker who can keep them comfortable while they hunt alphas. You are a side piece in this situation. She's not focused on you nor does she care, as her friends are with her. It's like a chaperone situation. You go out with them, they'll be asking you to buy them drinks....ya know, because you're the 'cool guy' whom they decided is worthy to come out with them lol.

This is why women are never truly 'single'. they keep orbiters around who fill the role of boyfriend to one degree or another. You are filling that role for them. Providing the comfort and security of a boyfriend without any investment from them.

This is typical female behavior. Delete her number and go out and bang some sluts. Don't let a text from her hook you back either.

Women are boring.....they aren't funny, accomplished, or much else. Their company is not valuable. Only a sucker thinks so. Sex is the only reason to hang around them. They think you will be enamored with female company.

Go lift weights, fuck other women, or read a book, or anything else. Don't bother responding to this ho again. Your time is more valuable than theirs. They offer a wet hole and nothing else. I really hope you have better priorities. She's already making it clear you're not the focus of this outing so there's no reason for you to go.

[John Quincy]

OP,

You should only go on a trip under the following conditions:

1. Only you and the woman are going. No one else. The moment it becomes a horde of cackling females you will become a tool in one way or another (as the other posters have explained in detail). Her best friend is going to meet you guys there? No. You are out.

2. You and she will share a room that has one bed (king or queen sized). Not two separate beds.

3. She will be financing a decent portion of the trip (she has to have something invested in this).

4a. The place is either remote, i.e. where there are very few people. So if she turns into a cunt all of a sudden, you have the option of shutting down with her, pursuing your own stuff (reading books etc.) and possibly moving into a separate room in the hotel.

4b. The place has lots of other women. Again, if the cunt factor is turned up, you leave the room and start gaming other women.

She will, most likely, already have analyzed 4a and 4b and will adjust her behavior accordingly.

In short, maintain the frame at all times. When you let her control things, bad things will probably follow.

[BrewDog]

Monk wrote some goddamn poetry.

No. Better. Response. Ever.

[Gorgiass]

(08-14-2016 02:58 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

When women invite you along in that manner, you are a tool. Used for comfort, affirmation, and to validate their ego. They view you as a disposable sucker who can keep them comfortable while they hunt alphas. You are a side piece in this situation. She's not focused on you nor does she care, as her friends are with her. It's like a chaperone situation. You go out with them, they'll be asking you to buy them drinks....ya know, because you're the 'cool guy' whom they decided is worthy to come out with them lol.

This is why women are never truly 'single'. they keep orbiters around who fill the role of boyfriend to one degree or another. You are filling that role for them. Providing the comfort and security of a boyfriend without any investment from them.

This is typical female behavior. Delete her number and go out and bang some sluts. Don't let a text from her hook you back either.

Women are boring.....they aren't funny, accomplished, or much else. Their company is not valuable. Only a sucker thinks so. Sex is the only reason to hang around them. They think you will be enamored with female company.

Go lift weights, fuck other women, or read a book, or anything else. Don't bother responding to this ho again. Your time is more valuable than theirs. They offer a wet hole and nothing else. I really hope you have better priorities. She's already making it clear you're not the focus of this outing so there's no reason for you to go.

Wingnut MGTOW shit like this irritates me and gives this place a bad name. This is the "game" section, not "everything else". Ironically enough, it's almost always the men who aren't getting sex that write shit like this. So far this week some of my notable interactions with women -

Today - AirBnB host, grandmother who cooked me a great breakfast, retired former school admin then office manager, widow who raised 4 successful men by herself. Not a bad accomplishment. We talked about how the attitudes of children have changed from lack of discipline. She had a version of this on her fridge. I approve - 18 years of positive interaction with a woman in one piece of writing alone.

Yesterday - Chinese-American girl, mid-upper 30s, talked about her life growing up in China (great for perspective on how good we have it), food here and there, life in her city I was visiting. Yea, I pounded her "wet hole" and it and her body were still very tight.

Day before - Cute, early 20s American girl in city for a metal show, talked about the band we were both a fan of and their evolution, other music, her town and area recommendations, learned of several other good bands I've been enjoying. Fooled around and thoroughly enjoyed myself despite not getting her "wet hole".

Earlier in the week, various other women 18-30 talking about area attractions, life in other parts of the country, travel, wine, booze, architecture, why TV sucks, guns, and loads of other things which broadened my perspective on the topics and made us both more knowledgeable, well-rounded people. Some I banged, some I didn't, all were enjoyable interactions. Hell, I've talked to a couple that I might've swayed to Trump, or at least away from Hilary, if that isn't a positive, non-sexual outcome I don't know what is.

Of course what the OP is asking about is foolish and beta - flying to Europe to try to game multiple women in the same group based on a social media conversation is a recipe for obiterdom if there ever was one. It's possible to convey this without sounding like a bitter wingnut though. On the other hand, if it weren't out of his way and he were planning to use the group as social proof to bang other women in the venues they went to I'd fully endorse the plan.

I rarely hear "game" posters spouting MGTOW rhetoric like this, and I hope it's still a minority opinion on RVF, although perhaps one which some guys would rather ignore than call out and seem like they weren't "red pill" enough. I don't really give a shit about my red pill cred so I'll take the hit for it.

If you consistently get nothing out of all interactions with a woman you don't bang, you need to work on your conversational skills. And yourself.

[churros]

^
It's not even about cred. Nowadays, posts like this usually get a thread locked. When disputes break out between politics/game, mods come down against game every time.

[Mikan]

My bet is that she is probably trying to set you up with one of her past her expiration date friends. You will be able to tell this is the case if all the other women are pointedly cold toward you when the intended woman is around. The whole gaggle will be in on it. You intended match may or may not know in advance. Watch for situations where you are all in a group and their horde leaves you alone with one member.

One aged fish alone in a shitty barrel is still "shooting fish in a barrel" I guess.

[XPQ22]

Eh, I'm not as cynical as some of the other posters here. Where in particular are they headed? If they're setting up the logistics and maybe even footing part of the bill, what do I have to lose. I haven't been to Europe in ages, I'd probably be more interested in exploring the different environment than thinking about getting laid on such a short trip.

I'd tag along and just hit up younger chicks on Tinder from my hotel room if these older broads are lame. It might be a good research opportunity...it's just a couple days. It's not like it's some lifetime commitment.

[Sp5]

I got the impression that OP was going to go to a neighboring country within Europe, not fly to Europe. Like a weekend in France from Germany.

[BlackFriar]

We are taking a cruise. The husband is beta as fuck. I saw some of the women and I talked to the wife. We are going to go for the weekend and stay at a spa hotel. While hubby stays at home, watching the kids. If I bang any of them...I will need viagra and vodka. I will probably do it and post it in the worst women you ever banged thread.

[Cobra]

So..

You decided to go?

[BlackFriar]

Yeah, why not. None of them are fat. One is like 25 and out of college. I just think it is fucked up that a husband would be ok with another man going with his wife and her friends to another country for the weekend.

I am not buying any beta drinks or listening to their I cant find a man stories. There are other people I already know in that country. If it blows...I will bail and go with the people I already know there.

[fugly1000]

^^^. Maybe her husband has his side bitch coming around during your trip.

[BlackFriar]

He needs to. I have not done anything too risky. I have known them for years. I gave her a shoulder massage one time while he took the kids down the street to return bottles at the corner market and she started to like and and she said we had to stop, before he comes back.

He is older than her by a few years and he is having midlife crisis/I am old/my life is over issues.....panic attacks.

She is late thirties. But she still looks good. I told that motherfucker to quit it. Because an American woman would leave his ass or start riding other cocks.

He said yeah, he knows that. But he doesn't think she would do it.

[C-Note]

I "liked" some of the posts in this thread because I thought they were funny, but they're also the reason why many forum participants are likely to be nervous about asking for advice in this forum. To be fair, it's difficult for the OP's in situations like this to convey all the history and nuance of the situation so the regulars here can give some apropos advice. That being said, even if the negative feedback in this thread doesn't end up applying to this situation, it's still good wisdom for all of us to keep in mind if we end up in the same situation as the OP.

BlackFriar, I'm curious to hear what happens on the trip and how you handle the different situations that arise.

[Pokerbaby]

I was put in a similar situation.

I am in Poland.

I got an invite from one of my best friends' to take his wife to the movies, show her some fun. She is foreign looking and very exotic for Poland. Easily an 8, though I am not into darker women and I just wouldn't hit on my best friend's wife. It's just the way I roll.

Anyways, just before we reach the movie theatre, she gets a call from one of her girlfriends asking her to go out and hang with the girls. So she asks me if I want to forget the movie and just go drinking with her girlfriends. I say yes.

My best friend's wife, flirted with me throughout the night and sexy danced and grinded me a little bit. So did her girlfriends. However, her girlfriends were all unattractive. One of them was married but said she was going through a divorce. She sat beside me throughout the night, leaned her head against my shoulder and touched me constantly, a kino sign that she was mine to lose. My best friend's wife comes with me to get another round of drinks and whispers in my ear .. "don't be such a boy scout, she clearly wants you to take her home, her husband cheats on her, she wants revenge..go for it". But I didn't follow through.

When you go out with hot girls, who for some reason are unavailable, expect to spend a night cockblocking. I hate being a cockblocker. This is done to me constantly and I hate when it when other guys do it. Cockblocking women whom you dont have a chance with yourself is a shitty night.

However, I'd argue that yes, you always want to be in the presence of other women, available or not, attractive or not. For typical game reasons. Something could always materialize whenever alcohol is involved. It always looks good to be in the presence of women and trigger other women's competitive reflexes. You can leverage women to other women. Worse case scenario, you don't get laid.

[BlackFriar]

Hey...I know I did not explain the whole situation at first. I just do dumb crap like that a lot.

I just wondered if people were placed in situations where they should do the ethical thing, am I the only bastard that would say fuck it. I am going to rob other people's cookie jars? Just to say I did it?

(Rick Flair Wooo)