[caracal]

(04-20-2014 04:33 AM)conservative Wrote:  

Wait a second. So you are not doing game for sex? What you want is love, affection, care... Have you considered that a women won't give you that if you are not faithful (the only one) to her? and that on return you should give the same thing. Maybe you should stop doing game and focus on a monogamous relationship.

There is around 150 million women in America. I doubt there is no women who doesn't want love, affection and care.

There are billions of women around the world. You can find your significant other and bring it back to America.

Finally, I don't think a women will give you all of these perks if you are fucking a new girl every day.

Fucking multiple women and getting love/affection/care from a woman is not mutually exclusive. If a person games purely in the pursuit of the act of sex and nothing else, they could save a hell of a lot of time by going to a prostitute. I imagine most dudes who game don't simply have sex with a woman, bust their nut, and kick the woman out (or leave the woman's place) immediately.

[Nomad77]

The greatest horror for females today is that they - could - become bored, if only for a minute!

And the singular purpose of males is now to entertain them. Life has now become just one big gong show where the audience is female and the performers are males.
And what's your prize for being an entertaining performer/clown you ask? Why, some emotional less sex of course IN WHICH you get to perform again

Or as Roosh has pointed out, we have become clowns. We are all like a bunch of entertainers amusing women both in and out of the bedroom. And we judge our success and self-worth to a great extent by our ability to do so. Oh, I got two notches this week = I successfully entertained two girls this week. The girls don't give a shit about you, they simply take your validation and sex and as soon as you slow down or don't come up with new entertainment off the stage you go and another monkey is called to perform. Game is just another form of entertainment to them. All the psychological games, the push pull talking, palm reading, and the whole process = a ton of validation and attention. For something they already want anyway, sex.

We are selling religion to the choir and think we are such great salesmen

[No Habit]

Quote:

The girls don't give a shit about you, they simply take your validation and sex and as soon as you slow down or don't come up with new entertainment off the stage you go and another monkey is called to perform.

You are right.

So what do we do? How do we bring the fun back to the game?

[Nomad77]

By stop playing THEIR game - stop performing. If you want to know who is in control of any game ask yourself this question: who makes the rules and who is following them? 20+ years ago, we (men) made the rules, and women followed them - they played OUR game.

The greatest value of any performer/entertainer is his novelty.

[Lucario]

Uncle Tom Lykis once said " the one that want the other person less is the one with more power"

If you are not top 5% men, then you cannot be thirsty one bit to prevent her from dictating the terms, you literally have to take pussy off your mind by doing other activities, which is very difficult to do, but possible.

[sinnerman]

Thank you Nomad for throwing light on this important issue.

I agree with you as a man you want some emotion. Choking, slapping, etc. is not healthy and should never be. And yes we men are cheap whores because we're guided by our dicks.

Used to be that girls will push you for a relationship and you would try to run away. These days girls put a disclaimer before sex:

"This doesn't mean anything. You know that right."

Oh yea that's what I need to hear before sex. That it means nothing. That I'm nothing more than a toy she wants to play with for tonight. The only thing u can do with girls like this is to use to them for pure pleasure(if you get pleasure from her in the first place). Do it, last for 5 minutes and then leave. Let her play with her dildo for the night.

You can buy sex but you cannot buy emotions.

[Nomad77]

It will be a better world for everyone if we just cared about each other a little bit. Little girls are running around out telling everyone to fuck off and striving to be the biggest and baddest bitch they can be. Little boys are running around calling girls whores and bitches. It's like we are living in a war zone of the sexes. Everyone wants to get tatted up and pierced because they think it makes them look tough. And no one wants to give a damn about anyone. I don't believe what is happening is natural. It's some kind of warped mentality and culture that has been created somehow and it serves need men nor women in their best interest.

[No Habit]

(04-20-2014 12:22 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

It will be a better world for everyone if we just cared about each other a little bit. Little girls are running around out telling everyone to fuck off and striving to be the biggest and baddest bitch they can be. Little boys are running around calling girls whores and bitches. It's like we are living in a war zone of the sexes. Everyone wants to get tatted up and pierced because they think it makes them look tough. And no one wants to give a damn about anyone. I don't believe what is happening is natural. It's some kind of warped mentality and culture that has been created somehow and it serves need men nor women in their best interest.

Oh boy.

You got caught up with that Krishnamurti bullshit like me last week....

Better read this:
Stripping the Gurus

Always tempting when someone comes up with a "solution to everything".

[Nomad77]

You don't have to agree with everything anyone says to agree with a single statement. Whatever you may think of the man it does not diminish the truth behind those words. For example, I am sure, many guys on here probably think I am nuts but I am sure there are threads I have created that they will have a difficult time dismissing out of hand. The pure logic behind that statement is irrefutable. And I have never read anything by him. I practically know nothing about him. Besides, I believe there is both good and bad in everyone. It is the nature of the universe. We seek perfection in an inherently imperfect world.

[soup]

Sounds like first world problems and another not so subtle boast thread. Is that trolling?

It's like someone starting a thread about how they have the problem of having a big dick or too much money or fame.

Maybe not trolling, but seems like op is using the forum for attention whoring purposes or validation.

[Nomad77]

(04-20-2014 01:05 PM)soup Wrote:  

Sounds like first world problems and another not so subtle boast thread. Is that trolling?

It's like someone starting a thread about how they have the problem of having a big dick or too much money or fame.

Maybe not trolling, but seems like op is using the forum for attention whoring purposes or validation.

I was waiting for you soup and I have just have a few questions for you? How many of those 85 rep points are from someone that have actually met you in person? How many guys have you actually tried to help or has helped? How many guys on here will vouch for who you are and what you represent yourself to be? Now ask me the same questions?

[jariel]

I've reached a point in my life where giving one fuck about women is just not at all a priority.

I mean some of us have figured this shit out.

If you're going to deal with American women, then you're going to deal with all the shit that guys talk about on this board, which is the same shit that guys are talking about in blog posts on other "manosphere" web sites.

I mean this whole game shit is fucked up because it's all about trying to figure out how to fuck and deal with mediocre women.

These bitches should be thanking Jesus if they have a man in their life who wants to use his resources to show her a good time from her otherwise mundane, non-existent existence.

She should be thanking Jesus if your 10" of dick is giving her orgasms that would even make porn stars blush.

She should be thanking Jesus that your number and texts show up on her phone at all.

She should be thanking Jesus that she gets to put her hands all over your cut body, that she actually gets to have physical intimacy with a God, and not some fat fuck, BIF having motherfucker who has nothing more going on his life than if his favorite NBA team is going to draft Andrew Wiggins.

So fuck it, I've checked out, cut the losses. I'm so great that the bitches don't even deserve to know of my existence, I can just the be the dream of a fantasy, and I'll be that for shit that actually matters to me.

Use here to establish yourself financially, physically, and mentally.

It's not hard. Money grows on trees in this country. We have gyms everyfuckinwhere or you can d/l P90X, Insanity, etc., and you have individuals like Nomad who you can actually peep some real life shit from, so your mental stimulation and understanding is covered if you seek out like-minded individuals and congruent information.

We all want to get some pussy, and that's cool, but look at these women as nothing more than toys, you play with them and then when you realize they're broken and/or you're bored with them, move on to the next.

When you don't feel like playing, don't play at all, do other shit to better yourself, always be improving yourself, worry about quality over quantity, worry about shit that really matters and not just how a bitch looks, the better the bitch looks, the less you're going to get out of her because she's not accustomed to serving, just being served.

When you're ready to have a real woman in your life who will worship the ground you walk on and respect you for being the type of man that she couldn't have even dreamt of, you find your happy ass a one-way ticket to a third-world country, and you chill there until you find her, and you don't bring her back to this bitch.

[jariel]

You may not be a big fan of Drake, but you can probably identify with this shit:

Quote:

"I'm not after pussy like I was three years ago, when I was trying to make up for all the years when no girl would talk to me," he says. "But I haven't met somebody that makes everybody else not matter."
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/d...z2zSCLvbTs

[Nomad77]

(04-20-2014 01:44 PM)jariel Wrote:  

I mean this whole game shit is fucked up because it's all about trying to figure out how to fuck and deal with mediocre women.

I'm with you bro!

[soup]

Nomad, I didn't ask anyone for rep points. I don't need to be "vouched" for. Guys can go out and try things I've talked about and see if it works for them. That's usually why they've repped me.

I have no blog and am not selling any books, so I don't have any possible MO here other than to share my experiences and knowledge and to learn from other guys and get the right vibe to get women.

I could be wrong, but from I've read of your stuff, it sounds like you have some validation issues that might be holding you back something in your life or game.

A lot of us deal with that kind of stuff, and that's probably part of why a lot if guys are here in the first place. That said, I think it would help you to get to the bottom of whatever it is you are dealing with.

[Nomad77]

You talk about me having issues to resolve, what about you? In my experience anyone that is running around banging a ton of girls is doing it for validation. It's no longer about the girls or sex. "Notches" are just another form of validation.

When it comes to women I have already being validated more than I could ever hope for. I have been very lucky to have had some great women in my life. When I go out there and see what the average guy faces and have to deal with that is why I am here. I have already had a really damn good life. There isn't much more I want to experience. Unfortunately, I can't say the same for a lot of younger guys I know and the future doesn't look very good either. If anything things are getting worse not better for the average guy in this country.

[Santoro]

(04-20-2014 01:44 PM)jariel Wrote:  

I've reached a point in my life where giving one fuck about women is just not at all a priority.

I mean some of us have figured this shit out.

If you're going to deal with American women, then you're going to deal with all the shit that guys talk about on this board, which is the same shit that guys are talking about in blog posts on other "manosphere" web sites.

I mean this whole game shit is fucked up because it's all about trying to figure out how to fuck and deal with mediocre women.

These bitches should be thanking Jesus if they have a man in their life who wants to use his resources to show her a good time from her otherwise mundane, non-existent existence.

She should be thanking Jesus if your 10" of dick is giving her orgasms that would even make porn stars blush.

She should be thanking Jesus that your number and texts show up on her phone at all.

She should be thanking Jesus that she gets to put her hands all over your cut body, that she actually gets to have physical intimacy with a God, and not some fat fuck, BIF having motherfucker who has nothing more going on his life than if his favorite NBA team is going to draft Andrew Wiggins.

So fuck it, I've checked out, cut the losses. I'm so great that the bitches don't even deserve to know of my existence, I can just the be the dream of a fantasy, and I'll be that for shit that actually matters to me.

Use here to establish yourself financially, physically, and mentally.

It's not hard. Money grows on trees in this country. We have gyms everyfuckinwhere or you can d/l P90X, Insanity, etc., and you have individuals like Nomad who you can actually peep some real life shit from, so your mental stimulation and understanding is covered if you seek out like-minded individuals and congruent information.

We all want to get some pussy, and that's cool, but look at these women as nothing more than toys, you play with them and then when you realize they're broken and/or you're bored with them, move on to the next.

When you don't feel like playing, don't play at all, do other shit to better yourself, always be improving yourself, worry about quality over quantity, worry about shit that really matters and not just how a bitch looks, the better the bitch looks, the less you're going to get out of her because she's not accustomed to serving, just being served.

When you're ready to have a real woman in your life who will worship the ground you walk on and respect you for being the type of man that she couldn't have even dreamt of, you find your happy ass a one-way ticket to a third-world country, and you chill there until you find her, and you don't bring her back to this bitch.

This is great stuff, and even six months ago I wouldn't have been able to see where this paradigm stems from. It's only been in recent years that I've had the fortune/balls to approach and get to know a foreign girl that has completely and totally dedicated herself to me (cooks, cleans, sex anytime, emotionally stable/healthy, no smartphone, family oriented etc) and realize that gaming anything less than this quality is just a waste. I could be learning my instrument, learning a language, lifting, cook, hanging with the boys, or anything else that gives me happiness and is something that builds towards a better tomorrow.

That's what it took for me to more or less walk away from obsessing with game. The end result is sex, sometimes great sex, but 99% of the time it builds nothing towards tomorrow. When I was 21, that was fine and pretty fun. Four years later, and things have changed quite a bit. I still approach as much as I can, it's just I find myself walking away a bit more than I used to.

[Nomad77]

This is what I mean about getting some love and affection from a woman. Once you experience it, it's hard to forget...

[Comte De St. Germain]

I get what Nomad is saying. I guess this partially comes from a very close dead childhood friend(whom was female), but I've honestly felt like what Nomad has felt for years. Every time I have sex, I lose a part of myself. I'm a cheap whore performing for her entertainment in order to bust a nut(the pay I get). I don't get the affection, I don't get her to care I exist, and I'm just cold as well as lonely at the end. I just hope moving to another country may solves this, but I'm not so optimistic. It just all feels so cold. I hide it in the back of my head, but that thought is always there.

[soup]

Nomad, maybe take it up with Tuth, he's the one who started the notch thread. I'm just having fun playing the game.

[jariel]

(04-20-2014 02:51 PM)Nomad77 Wrote:  

This is what I mean about getting some love and affection from a woman. Once you experience it, it's hard to forget...

We're all human beings so inherently we want the same things, just in different ways. A man wants a woman's love, respect, affection, etc. whereas a woman needs it.

I think where we're at in terms of modern women is that, for a man, he goes through life trying to accomplish a variety of things, and even though it's a variety of things that come from all facets of life, they all ultimately work together for a common purpose.

Most of us want to be good men, find a good woman to share our lives with, have a family with said woman, and then have her cry at our funeral one day.

All of those things are a part of this thing, whatever it is, they men aspire to possess.

However, with a woman, the man is her greatest accomplishment. Not only does she give it life, but it's inherent within her to understand, that even though she gives life, a great part of her life is about finding it again and having another person give it to her, their life, once again, and when she does that, she will be able to accomplish all of the things that are inherent to her.

Now men have become an easy accomplishment, so women no longer cherish it, nor do they respect it, any commodity that isn't scarce, can't be a valuable commodity.

That's why I say, be the prize, be the challenge, and make her earn you, because when you stop and take a deeper look at who exactly she is, you realize there's not much there worth going for, that she is not an accomplishment like you are, she is just another thing on a list of your posessions as you pass through life and mark your destiny.

[Valhalla]

I relate a lot to this entire thread

[Mujeriego]

I think what causes guys problems is that they're looking for a new car in a junk yard. It's apparent what the score is here in the US so why waste time lamenting the state of things? Knock these girls down like bowling pins and when you want a wife hop on a plane to a place where they're not brainwashed with the feminist bullshit.

[Nomad77]

I am not a big fan of SNL but every once in awhile I do it just to reminding myself why I don't like it. The last time was fairly decent looking, highly educated, white American girl. She had the whole pornstar routine down pat. You name it, she was willing to do it. I went through all the motions but as always I felt like I was acting in some porn movie - no emotions. This girl knew nothing about me, I didn't even feel she saw me as a person. To her I was just a human sex toy to get her off. After she was lying in the bed and there was a moment where she was just looking at me. It was the first time that night I felt she actually saw me and just for a few seconds there was a flicker of affection in her eyes. About the sex, I really don't have anything pleasant to remember but that little moment, just those few seconds, I actually felt like a human being.

For all aspiring pornstars and men that enjoy this kind of sex, this is your time, and this is your country.

[Nomad77]

(04-20-2014 06:42 PM)Mujeriego Wrote:  

I think what causes guys problems is that they're looking for a new car in a junk yard. It's apparent what the score is here in the US so why waste time lamenting the state of things? Knock these girls down like bowling pins and when you want a wife hop on a plane to a place where they're not brainwashed with the feminist bullshit.

This won't work. If you bring a woman to this country, she will become just like the women here within one year.